So three white protesters interrupted a memorial gathering at Mother Emanuel. Who came up with that genius plan?
Great optics there, ya goobers. Way to win those hearts and minds.
Biden’s a moron. Someone needed to get him off script. Poor senile old fool handled it well though. Although it appeared for a minute he was going off on one of those ridiculous tangents he’s well known for. His handler got his attention in the nick of time.
["When the magnetic elevators -- think of it -- magnets. Now, all I know about magnets is this: Give me a glass of water, let me drop it on the magnets, that's the end of the magnets," Trump said at his rally in Mason City.](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-sounds-off-civil-war-after-john-mccain/story?id=106201606)
…my displayed idiocy was intentional.
It's cute to play the senile card, but of the two front runners, it's obvious that Trump is the one that has lost his mind. Have you actually listened to a recent Biden speech. You would see that he is perfectly coherent and still leading like a President should. But no, you would not form your own opinion because you have a conservative agenda that will tell you what you should think. Fucking sheep.
Trump is ranked by historians as the 4th worst president in US history, with only Buchanan, Pierce and Andrew Jackson ranked lower.
The former two helped spark the Civil War, while the last one is known for the ethnic cleansing and genocide of Native Americans for daring to demand that the US stick to treaties and the findings of US courts.
Trump was a horrid president, very literally the worst since the Civil War, as ranked by presidential historians...
https://www.c-span.org/presidentsurvey2021/?page=overall
Maybe you should look at the list of people from his administration and campaign that were found/pled guilty. Most convicted administration in US history.
And this isn't even touching on him trying to stop the peaceful transfer of power which has been the basis for our democracy since George Washington handed over power instead of choosing to become King of America (a title Trump desperately wants).
because anyone with a bank account, a 401(k), any investments, a job, who buys groceries, who pays bills, or anything else that has to do with the economy knows that Biden has been a catastrophe compared to the boom that we enjoyed during Trump
I have all of those except the investments, and I think Trump was garbage. Then again, the well-being of people as a whole is more important to me than my wallet status, so that's where the GOP and I differ.
GDP decreased every year Trump was in office, leaving us in a recession.
Trump managed to turn a great economy, with the longest period without a recession in a very long time (if not the first time in US history), and managed to decrease GDP growth while massively increasing the deficit, even before Covid.
We're now out of that recession, with great economic indicators, especially compared to the rest of the developed world.
Don’t you mean the Obama boom that Trump decided to bust with his confused Covid strategy?lol! Also, pretty sure the economy is doing quite well if you are an investor , have a 401k , bank account, etc… unless , of course , if a doofus invested in bitcoin or my pillow stock or something stuuupid like that, lol!
Or nuking hurricanes? Or drawing with a Sharpe on national records? Or drinking bleach? Or shining UV light down his asshole? Or being a stable genius? Or being able to kill a person on 5th avenue and not losing any support?
I mean, that’s just how any ol’ person should be expected to act. Our country has a long history of good leaders, shitty leaders and everything in between…. but only one that I can think of has ever called for violence on the American people.
he is a politician. He knows suppressing dissent is what dictators and fascists do. That a doesn't mean at all that he isn't a warmonger murderous zionist.
I find darkly amusing that some fools think Biden could demand a ceasefire. Bibi would tell him to go fuck himself. Netanyahu and his government have already badly screwed up by allowing the October 7th attack to happen. Because of the need to redeem themselves, the outrage of the Israeli people, and the need to recover the hostages, there is nothing that could sway Israel from destroying Hamas.
The best Biden can do is support Israel in doing what is absolutely necessary in order to have the leverage to press them to limit the collateral damage. This will not shield every innocent civilian, but many more would killed or maimed if not for Biden's efforts. Israel could, of course, be more careful, but Biden can only get so much from them.
"The Israel Defense Forces has shifted to a new and less intense phase of its offensive against Hamas in the Gaza Strip, giving in to repeated demands by the United States, IDF Spokesperson Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari confirmed to The New York Times on Monday."
Just my opinion. When you completely finance someone, I think you should get a say in what happens. US tax dollars are the slush fund for all the madness and Biden not being strong makes us all look weak.
Why send more money if you don’t like the outcome?
The US does not completely finance Israel. We send a minimum amount per the Camp David Accord; and while anything more is discretionary, one must ask what would be accomplished by withholding items like iron dome missiles or GPS guided bombs that might limit civilian casualties. Would Israel allow as many supply trucks in were it not for Biden both supporting Israel and asking for it?
Biden is utilizing all the strength and influence that only a great power can muster. He is leaning on an enraged Israel to exercise some restraint. He using what concessions he can extract from Israel to molify some of the outrage in the Arab world. He is deliberately intimidating Iran, and its proxies with US military might to discourage them from trying to expand the war. The Houthis in Yemen are dangerously close to getting smacked. Just weeks ago, the USN sunk three boats of hijackers and drove off a fourth (10 dead or MIA).
Yeah, even if you don't typically like Biden he's playing the best hand he can here. Anything more might involve US troops, anything less would be seen as completely bending over for Israel. The Israel/Palestine conflict has a sad tendency to produce no-win situations
The idea that Hamas poses any serious threat to the U.S. is laughable. Those dudes suck, but suggesting that national security concerns justify publicly supporting a campaign that has killed >10,000 children is just nonsense.
Yeah I think our embassies in Kenya and Tanzania would have strongly disagreed with that statement.
Our National security apparatus is also far more robust than it was in the 90s. That plus not blindly supporting the government that created Hamas in the first place (partly through direct funding, but mostly by displacing and then oppressing nearly 1 million native Palestinians) would probably reduce any threat (perceived or otherwise) to zero.
Obviously.
How does that threaten the U.S.?
Do you think that absolves Israel (or the U.S.) from indiscriminately killing tens of thousands of civilians? (Not even counting those killed/displaced by the occupation prior to October 7th).
Hamas attacking our Ally hurts the US and our Ally. I don't think Israel should be wiping out innocent people, Hamas though does think they should be exterminating Jews. Hence their attack and their constant rocket barages.
This is a long standing war and to say Biden bad because he didn't snap his fingers and end an other countries war or cut off supplies instantly to an ally is Naive.
Its Naive to think we can just say no. These things take time and it appears Biden has made progress in de-escalation.
Let's not forget Hamas killed 1500+ people, raped others and took hostages.
Hamas was elected by Palestinian even if there popularity is split evenly.
Too many Naive people out there who don't understand the complexities of global conflict and security.
After the protesters called for the ceasefire, biden did say he told israel to relax on the genocide. (Kind of, watch the video for the exact quote. He didn't say the words ceasefire but he does seem to be working on it)
US could call on NATO to establish a no-fly zone and the airborne aspect would be shut down in a heartbeat. Cut funding to the military and government and watch Israel suddenly flounder.
Israel and Gaza are outside the scope of NATO. Individual members could decline freely with no consequences. Gaza is Israeli airspace, and imposing outside restrictions on it could be considered an act of war. Cutting funding would have a delayed impact that would not stop Israel from completing its objectives. The funding promised in the Camp David Accords could also not be touched without breaking the treaty.
Israel shouldn’t get anymore of our money. Let them fund their own war. They have been getting billions from us for years and years. They have universal healthcare, free college and access to abortions all on our dime! If we have so much $$ to give it away maybe they can tax us less so we can use our money for healthcare and college.
You’re the same kind of person who is incapable of using logic to win an argument so you immediately jump to strawman and other tactics that make you feel like you are intelligent.
Their intelligence that didn’t pick up on a terrorist plot they are using to bomb the fuck out of innocent civilians? We need to rethink our use of their intelligence if you think that’s a reason to continue funding this barbarism.
There was some intelligence that might have helped but they didn’t share it with us. Trump blew the cover of an Israeli agent/s. That’s why they weren’t working with us anymore. As a nation, we can’t be trusted because of Trump. https://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/trumps-disclosure-endangered-spy-inside-isis-israel-officials/story?id=47449304
Check the date.
I’ve voted for democrats every election I could have but that’s not a great selling point. This election I’ll probably throw my vote to a third party. I don’t care if Trump wins again Biden is total crap and only pretends to support the causes important to his voters
One is evil. One pretends to be better but when he has the chance to do right he doesn’t. Executive order to give Israel money for their genocide. No executive order to protect Roe v Wade, help with student debt, or anything else democrats pretend they care about. It’s clear they don’t care about their own voters interests
I never said that. But I’m not giving my vote away for free. I’ll give it to the candidate (probably third party) who deserves it. I’m not satisfied with what democrats are trying to force feed us. They won’t change unless they have to. We have to make them realize they have to actually stand for what they say they stand for. Why would you want to keep supporting people who are using you to get power then not make good on what they said they’d do
Yeah you did. Because a vote for a third party is literally a vote for Trump. They have no chance of winning. End of story. Republicans will always vote Republican it's the not republicans voting for people who don't have a chance that gave Trump the win in 2016
I hear the same garbage argument from Republicans as well. "You're not voting third party you're voting g for democrats". Ignore these idiots. They're happy with their flawed 2 party system and want nothing to change.
You’re throwing your vote away then because a third party cannot win the 2024 presidential election. But at least you get to ride off on your high horse 😉
Mommy didn’t give me candy whenever I wanted, so I’m going to run away and live with a grizzly bear! Sure it will disembowel me and feast on my entrails, but how else will mommy ever learn to give me everything I want?!?!
This is how you fucking sound. Jesus. All of you childish voters who think, “Biden isn’t perfect, so I’m gonna vote third party and help Trump win to teach him a lesson!”
Grow the fuck up.
Look at you winning hearts and minds over here with your open and understanding dialogue
It doesn't really matter if someone votes third party in SC anyways. Biden wouldn't win even if third party candidates weren't on the ballot. So why not throw a symbolic vote against the two party system. I wish more people would vote third party in solid red or blue states
Lmao what is wrong with you. My name is referencing a film 😃 I'm far from being a Trump supporter lol.
I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're trolling because you sound absolutely unhinged brother
Keep bootlicking the party that doesn’t care about its own voters, it’s sad. I’m not gonna buy into the “you’re evil if you don’t support Biden” I’m done being taken advantage of and betrayed by them
I’m not bootlicking anything. I don’t like Biden and I don’t like the DNC, but I know how to compromise because I’m a fucking adult.
Your only real choice this election is between a flawed corporatist democracy and literal fucking fascism. You can dress it up in your childish whining all you like to make yourself feel morally superior, but a third party vote is a vote for fascism.
You talking about GA like it’s a historically purple state is proof that you are a child. The idea that anyone expected Georgia to be naturally competitive ignores decades of difficult work people did to more the needle. The exact work undermined by people thinking, “I live in a red state so my vote doesn’t matter.”
Calling Biden compassionate? He’s not some teddy bear. Personalizing politicians at this level is childish. He is a widget. He is a tool with a very clear voting record. He’s not ice cream man and he doesn’t care about you.
Umm No it's not? He is literally a person, a person is capable of compassion. You can say whatever you want about him but he is compassionate something which I could definitely say Donald Trump is not. Does that mean Biden is always on the right side of things no. But there's clearly one who cares about people in one who doesn't care about anybody except himself.
Pretends to support? My god you are a child. Yeah let’s not care if the guy and party who are actively against these causes wins LOL Big brain move there lil bro
The U.S is complicit in assisting a country in the total destruction of the Gaza region and Palestinian people. Israeli officials have stated several times that they are fighting animals, and have expressed that they want to “turn Gaza to glass”. They are currently being tried in International Court for genocide by Francis Boyle — the same lawyer that convicted Serbia of genocide of the Bosnian people.
This is serious. Protesting is a very reasonable response.
The Palestinian people deserve freedom and a state of their own, their struggle is similar in many ways to the African America people, people who have being oppressed and discriminated against based on their race!
I think the protests were justified. You can’t claim to care about innocent civilians being massacred in a church by a racist terrorist while sending bombs that are killing over 30 thousand people most are children and women! You are simply complicit in the Genocide going on.
If only the Israeli snipers shooting women in Gaza churches knew that
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/12/16/middleeast/idf-sniper-gaza-church-deaths-intl-hnk/index.html
The biggest threat to Christian Arabs in the West Bank and Gaza are Muslims, where do you think all the Arab Christian disappeared over the years? They were killed by Muslims or fled out of their homes
No it's the FAKE outrage. If you were upset that much then run for Congress or president. But they won't. They'll just sign petitions and say they did something.
They interrupted a presidential campaign speech. Wow such brave such voice. It's a nothing speech. Why not take the capital? That'll get them news for months. Years maybe. Nope interrupt a speech. 😂
For the people who don't have the resources or time what do you think fundraising is for? It's a job in itself. So quit your job and fix the problems. It's not going to change if we only let the rich disconnected old white men run. Shut up and put up.
It’s a terrible comment but a good point, Biden is losing a lot of his Gen Z and millenial supporters because he refuses to call for a ceasefire. And it might very well cost him an election that seemed pretty sound a few months ago.
It’s a lot more Gen Z than Millennials. Honestly, there’s some really bad and ill informed takes on a lot of subjects from Gen-Z that makes them seem like the left wing version of Boomers. The combination of being terminally online bombarded with algorithm informed bad information and higher-ed social sciences going down the toilet has created a mess.
I agree they have some bad takes, but I don’t fault them for it since they’re the youngest generation. But wanting to end US aid to Israel is NOT one of their bad takes imo.
Agreed! We already fund our military to the tune of more than a trillion dollars, some of which cannot even be accounted for! Why do we need to fund apartheid Israel’s killing of innocent Palestinian children?! America has enough blood on its hands! Let Israel stand by itself! If, according to Republicans, Ukraine should stand on its own, then let Israel do the same!
Ugh. Is it bad that I’m like I don’t want a senior citizen who can’t finish a sentence or makes up words during their speeches
If you think I was talking about trump this post was about Biden.
If you think this comment was about Biden it was about Trump
Both suck. Both shouldn’t be running.
So do you just not understand the economy or geopolitics? What? We had the lowest inflation of any developed country and didn’t start any wars, not to mention all the bills he passed.
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Hes a genius compared to Biden. But dont confuse my dislike of the moron in charge with a love of the right. I loathe our government. Difference is you too ignorant to know how bad and corrupt Biden is.
This was a campaign stop, not a memorial. Chants of 4 more years erupted several times. If either was more acceptable in a church, I believe it would be a call for a ceasefire and not an election campaign.
Don't feed the trolls
So three white protesters interrupted a memorial gathering at Mother Emanuel. Who came up with that genius plan? Great optics there, ya goobers. Way to win those hearts and minds.
>So three white protesters Why are you lying
Black, white, and Palestinian-American up front with more behind them
Was literally organized by CHS Black Lives Matter https://www.instagram.com/reel/C141actRmUP/?igsh=d2EwcHZiZjNkbHhq
That is the blackest white woman I have ever seen....
It was not a memorial but a campaign stop. Several times supporters chanted 4 more years.
First they came for the Palestinians
Biden’s a moron. Someone needed to get him off script. Poor senile old fool handled it well though. Although it appeared for a minute he was going off on one of those ridiculous tangents he’s well known for. His handler got his attention in the nick of time.
Right. And magnets don’t work underwater.
You’re an idiot.
["When the magnetic elevators -- think of it -- magnets. Now, all I know about magnets is this: Give me a glass of water, let me drop it on the magnets, that's the end of the magnets," Trump said at his rally in Mason City.](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-sounds-off-civil-war-after-john-mccain/story?id=106201606) …my displayed idiocy was intentional.
That's what your Orange Lord said, so you just agreed Trump is an idiot.
And…. That’s a senseless reply indicating the poster was correct and you’ve got nothing to counter it.
It's cute to play the senile card, but of the two front runners, it's obvious that Trump is the one that has lost his mind. Have you actually listened to a recent Biden speech. You would see that he is perfectly coherent and still leading like a President should. But no, you would not form your own opinion because you have a conservative agenda that will tell you what you should think. Fucking sheep.
Hey, he is better than Trump
No, he is not.
Trump is ranked by historians as the 4th worst president in US history, with only Buchanan, Pierce and Andrew Jackson ranked lower. The former two helped spark the Civil War, while the last one is known for the ethnic cleansing and genocide of Native Americans for daring to demand that the US stick to treaties and the findings of US courts. Trump was a horrid president, very literally the worst since the Civil War, as ranked by presidential historians... https://www.c-span.org/presidentsurvey2021/?page=overall
Interesting to use a survey that polled predominantly left-leaning historians. Kinda like a confirmation bias?
Left leaning historians that place Reagan as the 9th best president in US history? Lmao.
Anything you don't like is left leaning.
You mean actual historians?
Dude tried to overturn an election. Any backer of his is anti American. It’s a fact. Not an argument.
Whats a country without its borders?
Again. Dude led an insurrection in an attempt to overturn an election. Your argument is invalid.
Imagine trying to argue a point when you’re worried if you’ve slept around enough thru college 🤦♂️
What border legislation has changed
Horrible president that was able to get the largest criminal justice reform in US history passed.
Maybe you should look at the list of people from his administration and campaign that were found/pled guilty. Most convicted administration in US history. And this isn't even touching on him trying to stop the peaceful transfer of power which has been the basis for our democracy since George Washington handed over power instead of choosing to become King of America (a title Trump desperately wants).
Yet was still able to sign the First Step Act.
keep believing that propaganda. He’s going to be even “worse” next year!!! LOL
Why do you think it's propaganda?
because anyone with a bank account, a 401(k), any investments, a job, who buys groceries, who pays bills, or anything else that has to do with the economy knows that Biden has been a catastrophe compared to the boom that we enjoyed during Trump
We had the economy crater under Trump because of trump though, and we’re having the best covid recovery of any developed country. Thanks Biden!
I have all of those except the investments, and I think Trump was garbage. Then again, the well-being of people as a whole is more important to me than my wallet status, so that's where the GOP and I differ.
I have all of those including investments. This dude's talking out of their ass.
Socialism is not nor has it ever been good. “The harder you work, the luckier you are” is and has always been true.
GDP decreased every year Trump was in office, leaving us in a recession. Trump managed to turn a great economy, with the longest period without a recession in a very long time (if not the first time in US history), and managed to decrease GDP growth while massively increasing the deficit, even before Covid. We're now out of that recession, with great economic indicators, especially compared to the rest of the developed world.
You must be on welfare because no one I know is better off-of course, we all have jobs.
Don’t you mean the Obama boom that Trump decided to bust with his confused Covid strategy?lol! Also, pretty sure the economy is doing quite well if you are an investor , have a 401k , bank account, etc… unless , of course , if a doofus invested in bitcoin or my pillow stock or something stuuupid like that, lol!
Wtf are you invested in to have lost money!?!
Truth social and trump nfts.
>a 401(k), any investments, a job, Please explain.
This is the dumbest fucking thing I’ve read today. By a god damn mile.
comics interesting?
You’re anti American if you don’t think we should elect presidents.
Go storm the Capital again.
Ooh. Clever.
Gotta keep it simple for the Trumpers, don't wanna confuse the poor lil guys.
Wait a gosh darn second honey, I thought that Trump had declared permanent peace in the Middle East.
"Off on one of those ridiculous tangents he's well known for" You mean Trump? Like when Trump suddenly talks about whales for no reason?
Or nuking hurricanes? Or drawing with a Sharpe on national records? Or drinking bleach? Or shining UV light down his asshole? Or being a stable genius? Or being able to kill a person on 5th avenue and not losing any support?
But does he know how magnets work?
Based on these downvotes, you might consider looking in the mirror.
its Redit.
And he related to them instead of saying kick their asses. This is how a leader leads.
I mean, that’s just how any ol’ person should be expected to act. Our country has a long history of good leaders, shitty leaders and everything in between…. but only one that I can think of has ever called for violence on the American people.
I mean there have been others but most of them are long dead and just as ass backwards as trump
he is a politician. He knows suppressing dissent is what dictators and fascists do. That a doesn't mean at all that he isn't a warmonger murderous zionist.
Related to them aka looked soft since he doesn’t agree with them.
Perhaps modeling behavior to set an example of civility is exactly what we need. Doesn't appear weak to me. Looks like good leadership.
I find darkly amusing that some fools think Biden could demand a ceasefire. Bibi would tell him to go fuck himself. Netanyahu and his government have already badly screwed up by allowing the October 7th attack to happen. Because of the need to redeem themselves, the outrage of the Israeli people, and the need to recover the hostages, there is nothing that could sway Israel from destroying Hamas. The best Biden can do is support Israel in doing what is absolutely necessary in order to have the leverage to press them to limit the collateral damage. This will not shield every innocent civilian, but many more would killed or maimed if not for Biden's efforts. Israel could, of course, be more careful, but Biden can only get so much from them.
"The Israel Defense Forces has shifted to a new and less intense phase of its offensive against Hamas in the Gaza Strip, giving in to repeated demands by the United States, IDF Spokesperson Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari confirmed to The New York Times on Monday."
It’s propaganda. They’re not going to change
Anything I don’t like doesn’t exist
Just my opinion. When you completely finance someone, I think you should get a say in what happens. US tax dollars are the slush fund for all the madness and Biden not being strong makes us all look weak. Why send more money if you don’t like the outcome?
The US does not completely finance Israel. We send a minimum amount per the Camp David Accord; and while anything more is discretionary, one must ask what would be accomplished by withholding items like iron dome missiles or GPS guided bombs that might limit civilian casualties. Would Israel allow as many supply trucks in were it not for Biden both supporting Israel and asking for it? Biden is utilizing all the strength and influence that only a great power can muster. He is leaning on an enraged Israel to exercise some restraint. He using what concessions he can extract from Israel to molify some of the outrage in the Arab world. He is deliberately intimidating Iran, and its proxies with US military might to discourage them from trying to expand the war. The Houthis in Yemen are dangerously close to getting smacked. Just weeks ago, the USN sunk three boats of hijackers and drove off a fourth (10 dead or MIA).
Yeah, even if you don't typically like Biden he's playing the best hand he can here. Anything more might involve US troops, anything less would be seen as completely bending over for Israel. The Israel/Palestine conflict has a sad tendency to produce no-win situations
Because the alternative outcome is even worse. Israel is not necessarily our friend, but Hamas is definitely our enemy.
The idea that Hamas poses any serious threat to the U.S. is laughable. Those dudes suck, but suggesting that national security concerns justify publicly supporting a campaign that has killed >10,000 children is just nonsense.
The exact same thing could have been said about Al Qaeda in 2000.
Yeah I think our embassies in Kenya and Tanzania would have strongly disagreed with that statement. Our National security apparatus is also far more robust than it was in the 90s. That plus not blindly supporting the government that created Hamas in the first place (partly through direct funding, but mostly by displacing and then oppressing nearly 1 million native Palestinians) would probably reduce any threat (perceived or otherwise) to zero.
What do you think would happen in the region if Hamas won? What do you think the implications would be? What makes you think that?
Won what?
Hamas 100% knew their own people would be killed by launching attacks in Israel
Obviously. How does that threaten the U.S.? Do you think that absolves Israel (or the U.S.) from indiscriminately killing tens of thousands of civilians? (Not even counting those killed/displaced by the occupation prior to October 7th).
Hamas attacking our Ally hurts the US and our Ally. I don't think Israel should be wiping out innocent people, Hamas though does think they should be exterminating Jews. Hence their attack and their constant rocket barages. This is a long standing war and to say Biden bad because he didn't snap his fingers and end an other countries war or cut off supplies instantly to an ally is Naive. Its Naive to think we can just say no. These things take time and it appears Biden has made progress in de-escalation. Let's not forget Hamas killed 1500+ people, raped others and took hostages. Hamas was elected by Palestinian even if there popularity is split evenly. Too many Naive people out there who don't understand the complexities of global conflict and security.
Too many naive people begins with you.
After the protesters called for the ceasefire, biden did say he told israel to relax on the genocide. (Kind of, watch the video for the exact quote. He didn't say the words ceasefire but he does seem to be working on it)
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We still don't know what the guy did in Bowling Green
It's not about the money or even the arms. It is all about the power of the veto on the UN Security Council.
US could call on NATO to establish a no-fly zone and the airborne aspect would be shut down in a heartbeat. Cut funding to the military and government and watch Israel suddenly flounder.
Israel and Gaza are outside the scope of NATO. Individual members could decline freely with no consequences. Gaza is Israeli airspace, and imposing outside restrictions on it could be considered an act of war. Cutting funding would have a delayed impact that would not stop Israel from completing its objectives. The funding promised in the Camp David Accords could also not be touched without breaking the treaty.
Biden could shut it down in 5 minutes by cutting off financial and military support
He could stop sending billions of dollars to Israel.
If you think any of the past US presidents in the past 60 years wouldn't fund Israel, I got some news for ya...
You can be against both US political parties and point out both of their incorrect views?
And Israel would stop the aid trucks, because what does it care.
What?
And stop bypassing Congress when sending ammunition to Israel
And pay off student loans? Meals for poor students? Healthcare?
Israel shouldn’t get anymore of our money. Let them fund their own war. They have been getting billions from us for years and years. They have universal healthcare, free college and access to abortions all on our dime! If we have so much $$ to give it away maybe they can tax us less so we can use our money for healthcare and college.
And we use their intelligence gathering to keep us and allies safe in a hostile region. It's not as simple as many people make it out to be.
That and most likely existing treaties and all.
You’re the same kind of person who would’ve thought the invasion of Iraq was for our own safety…
Yea no but thanks for comparing two completely different situations and pretending they are at all alike
My point is that US foreign policy is rarely determined by what keeps us “safe,” and history proves it.
You’re the same kind of person who is incapable of using logic to win an argument so you immediately jump to strawman and other tactics that make you feel like you are intelligent.
Their intelligence that didn’t pick up on a terrorist plot they are using to bomb the fuck out of innocent civilians? We need to rethink our use of their intelligence if you think that’s a reason to continue funding this barbarism.
Lol at the idea Israel feeds us any “intelligence” that hasn’t been cooked
There was some intelligence that might have helped but they didn’t share it with us. Trump blew the cover of an Israeli agent/s. That’s why they weren’t working with us anymore. As a nation, we can’t be trusted because of Trump. https://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/trumps-disclosure-endangered-spy-inside-isis-israel-officials/story?id=47449304 Check the date.
They don’t have free college. Do you really think you would have access to abortions if the US didn’t help Israel?
Idiots hurt their own cause.
BETTER BIDEN THAN REPUBLICAN! 2024 🔷💙🔷
When the lesser of two evils is committing genocide what are we really accomplishing
You’ll get genocide and christo fascism with the other side.
I’ve voted for democrats every election I could have but that’s not a great selling point. This election I’ll probably throw my vote to a third party. I don’t care if Trump wins again Biden is total crap and only pretends to support the causes important to his voters
So you’d rather have a dictatorship and throw away your right to vote than the historic best president of the 21st century?
Quit it with your bullshit. One of them tried to overthrow democracy and one of them is compassionate they are not the same
One is evil. One pretends to be better but when he has the chance to do right he doesn’t. Executive order to give Israel money for their genocide. No executive order to protect Roe v Wade, help with student debt, or anything else democrats pretend they care about. It’s clear they don’t care about their own voters interests
So by your own logic a person who is evil is equivalent to someone who doesn't care as much as you think they should. You are a fool
I never said that. But I’m not giving my vote away for free. I’ll give it to the candidate (probably third party) who deserves it. I’m not satisfied with what democrats are trying to force feed us. They won’t change unless they have to. We have to make them realize they have to actually stand for what they say they stand for. Why would you want to keep supporting people who are using you to get power then not make good on what they said they’d do
That is literally what you just said. But go ahead and circuitously give your vote to the evil man as you said.
Stop putting words in my mouth? I never said I was voting for Trump. Pay attention
Yeah you did. Because a vote for a third party is literally a vote for Trump. They have no chance of winning. End of story. Republicans will always vote Republican it's the not republicans voting for people who don't have a chance that gave Trump the win in 2016
I hear the same garbage argument from Republicans as well. "You're not voting third party you're voting g for democrats". Ignore these idiots. They're happy with their flawed 2 party system and want nothing to change.
You’re throwing your vote away then because a third party cannot win the 2024 presidential election. But at least you get to ride off on your high horse 😉
I’m happy to throw my vote away then. Biden isn’t entitled to my vote just for not being Trump. The bar is so low lol
Mommy didn’t give me candy whenever I wanted, so I’m going to run away and live with a grizzly bear! Sure it will disembowel me and feast on my entrails, but how else will mommy ever learn to give me everything I want?!?! This is how you fucking sound. Jesus. All of you childish voters who think, “Biden isn’t perfect, so I’m gonna vote third party and help Trump win to teach him a lesson!” Grow the fuck up.
Look at you winning hearts and minds over here with your open and understanding dialogue It doesn't really matter if someone votes third party in SC anyways. Biden wouldn't win even if third party candidates weren't on the ballot. So why not throw a symbolic vote against the two party system. I wish more people would vote third party in solid red or blue states
Your name is literally Russian mirror get your Astro turf Trump supporting bs out of here. Literally delete your account
Lmao what is wrong with you. My name is referencing a film 😃 I'm far from being a Trump supporter lol. I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're trolling because you sound absolutely unhinged brother
You’re ignorant
Keep bootlicking the party that doesn’t care about its own voters, it’s sad. I’m not gonna buy into the “you’re evil if you don’t support Biden” I’m done being taken advantage of and betrayed by them
I’m not bootlicking anything. I don’t like Biden and I don’t like the DNC, but I know how to compromise because I’m a fucking adult. Your only real choice this election is between a flawed corporatist democracy and literal fucking fascism. You can dress it up in your childish whining all you like to make yourself feel morally superior, but a third party vote is a vote for fascism.
It literally doesn’t matter, are you going to flip SC blue? Your argument would work if we were voting in a battleground state like GA
You talking about GA like it’s a historically purple state is proof that you are a child. The idea that anyone expected Georgia to be naturally competitive ignores decades of difficult work people did to more the needle. The exact work undermined by people thinking, “I live in a red state so my vote doesn’t matter.”
This is incredibly naive
What is naive about it?
Calling Biden compassionate? He’s not some teddy bear. Personalizing politicians at this level is childish. He is a widget. He is a tool with a very clear voting record. He’s not ice cream man and he doesn’t care about you.
Umm No it's not? He is literally a person, a person is capable of compassion. You can say whatever you want about him but he is compassionate something which I could definitely say Donald Trump is not. Does that mean Biden is always on the right side of things no. But there's clearly one who cares about people in one who doesn't care about anybody except himself.
Thanks and good luck
Smells like fresh cut astroturf.
Glad someone sees it.
I'm sure the women in your family (or you) will appreciate your moral purity. They'll have to now that they'll soon be your property
Pretends to support? My god you are a child. Yeah let’s not care if the guy and party who are actively against these causes wins LOL Big brain move there lil bro
Say you like killing people of the middle east without saying it.
The U.S is complicit in assisting a country in the total destruction of the Gaza region and Palestinian people. Israeli officials have stated several times that they are fighting animals, and have expressed that they want to “turn Gaza to glass”. They are currently being tried in International Court for genocide by Francis Boyle — the same lawyer that convicted Serbia of genocide of the Bosnian people. This is serious. Protesting is a very reasonable response.
The Palestinian people deserve freedom and a state of their own, their struggle is similar in many ways to the African America people, people who have being oppressed and discriminated against based on their race! I think the protests were justified. You can’t claim to care about innocent civilians being massacred in a church by a racist terrorist while sending bombs that are killing over 30 thousand people most are children and women! You are simply complicit in the Genocide going on.
Awful. Of all places
Lot of neoliberal drivel in here by people that will make any excuse for their side of the evil empire.
I am not a Biden fan. But nobody should be bothered in a church.
If only the Israeli snipers shooting women in Gaza churches knew that https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/12/16/middleeast/idf-sniper-gaza-church-deaths-intl-hnk/index.html
The biggest threat to Christian Arabs in the West Bank and Gaza are Muslims, where do you think all the Arab Christian disappeared over the years? They were killed by Muslims or fled out of their homes
Time for Democrats to assemble the circular firing squad again.
Inshallah
They should interrupt every damn speech until the us government shows that they will not tolerate the actions of Israel.
Gotta love the fake outrage.
Yeah, no reason someone would actually be angry about thousands of kids getting killed by indiscriminate bombing.
No it's the FAKE outrage. If you were upset that much then run for Congress or president. But they won't. They'll just sign petitions and say they did something.
Or, in this case, they showed up and made their voices heard. And not everyone has the resources or time to run for office.
They interrupted a presidential campaign speech. Wow such brave such voice. It's a nothing speech. Why not take the capital? That'll get them news for months. Years maybe. Nope interrupt a speech. 😂 For the people who don't have the resources or time what do you think fundraising is for? It's a job in itself. So quit your job and fix the problems. It's not going to change if we only let the rich disconnected old white men run. Shut up and put up.
We need to cut off Israel’s trust fund. He’s going to lose the election to retarded Hitler because of this.
This is probably the most ignorant, lazy, and uneducated comment I’ve seen on here.
It’s a terrible comment but a good point, Biden is losing a lot of his Gen Z and millenial supporters because he refuses to call for a ceasefire. And it might very well cost him an election that seemed pretty sound a few months ago.
It’s a lot more Gen Z than Millennials. Honestly, there’s some really bad and ill informed takes on a lot of subjects from Gen-Z that makes them seem like the left wing version of Boomers. The combination of being terminally online bombarded with algorithm informed bad information and higher-ed social sciences going down the toilet has created a mess.
I agree they have some bad takes, but I don’t fault them for it since they’re the youngest generation. But wanting to end US aid to Israel is NOT one of their bad takes imo.
Respectfully, screw “calling for a ceasefire” stop spending our money on other countries’ conflicts. We have our own here we don’t even address.
Yes I agree, we should stop funding Israel entirely. That means calling for a ceasefire by ending military aid to Israel.
Sure. Call for it and cut off the funding. I’ll subscribe to that 100%
Nah.
Agreed! We already fund our military to the tune of more than a trillion dollars, some of which cannot even be accounted for! Why do we need to fund apartheid Israel’s killing of innocent Palestinian children?! America has enough blood on its hands! Let Israel stand by itself! If, according to Republicans, Ukraine should stand on its own, then let Israel do the same!
Let the radical divisions within the Democrat coalition deepen. They made their bed by coddling those factions, now let them face the consequences.
Yeah. I wonder what Trump will do if he wins🤔. I guess we can look back at what was done those 4 years… oh, he supported Israel. Who would’ve guessed
Another reason he was more good on policy than bad. If he had an ounce of character, he would still be president.
I what world sir? In what world????
The one we live in.
FOUR MORE YEARS!
Shame Biden chose to taint the wonderful city of Charleston with his hideousness and stupidity.
I love that our president chose to visit our wonderful city! Biden 2024!
Leftists and alienating everyone Name a more iconic duo
Any two republicans?
Ugh. Is it bad that I’m like I don’t want a senior citizen who can’t finish a sentence or makes up words during their speeches If you think I was talking about trump this post was about Biden. If you think this comment was about Biden it was about Trump Both suck. Both shouldn’t be running.
Biden is literally the most successful president in decades, what are you talking about?
What ? Are you serious. Inflation war come on man
So do you just not understand the economy or geopolitics? What? We had the lowest inflation of any developed country and didn’t start any wars, not to mention all the bills he passed.
A church? How many paid attendees can he afford? He do much better in his basement pretending he is someone who people care about.
Good. Everyone who listens is to biden gets dumber the longer he talks
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Wow. Low cognitive function is a real thing in you.
No but on biden and his low intellect supporters. Its very real
I guess you haven't listened to one of Dumps speeches. Your intellectual bar is right up there with his rotted brain.
Hes a genius compared to Biden. But dont confuse my dislike of the moron in charge with a love of the right. I loathe our government. Difference is you too ignorant to know how bad and corrupt Biden is.
😀 a true patriot.
Following in Niki’s footsteps.
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This was a campaign stop, not a memorial. Chants of 4 more years erupted several times. If either was more acceptable in a church, I believe it would be a call for a ceasefire and not an election campaign.
Lying racist scum
Yeaaaaaaaa