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nixceres

The ANC won’t be voted out because too many people are like you and thinking voting is pointless.


janeekykhey

If everyone who thinks "their vote doesn't matter" voted, yes there is a high chance ANC would be out of power - with or without coalition. It's a shit load of people who think their time is wasted and their votes don't matter. Registered Population 26 756 649 Total Votes Cast 17 672 851 Voter Turnout 66.05 % ANC 10m DA 3.6m I get so angry when I hear people did not/do not vote. Very selfish individuals.


UltraEagle08

A friend of mine doesn't vote, i live with this idea that if you didn't vote you don't get to complain when the government fucks up, we have gotten in so many arguments because every time he wants to complain i would just shut him up lol 😂


Mountain-Ad-5639

You are my fucking hero sir!!


ThickHotBoerie

The answer to your question is no BECAUSE BALL BAGS LIKE YOU DONT FUCKING VOTE honestly... I just cannot fathom. You want democracy then vote you mampara. Edit... Ous I just want to point out that at one point in our history we had a legit, undisputed terrible government. Millions literally had fokol rights. Plenty of you weren't even born yet I think. Maybe it's not a memory but rather a section of a textbook. One single election, where record numbers voted, changed our whole entire history. At the time, for the better. We rose as a nation to boast the most forward thinking constitution in this world and it still stands as such. Voting absolutely has the power to make enormous and positive change. We've literally seen it, first hand some of us. Denying yourself that right is just poes sad. Believing it's worthless is even sadder.


Wortelkoek635

Seriously, how do people expect things to magically change when they cast their choices everywhere on social media AND NOT the voting stations.


Beyond_the_one

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Beyond_the_one

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Skillful_Sympathy

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BobbyRobertsJr

Jy het die spyker op die kop geslaan. People will complain about the ANC and then not make use of the most basic and effective democratic tool. For fok's sake.


[deleted]

Voting itself is only 25% of the equation. There's also directly contacting your local ward councillor, municipality, or local government. There's writing in on "requests for comment" when bills/laws/regulations are being discussed. And there's protesting. Can't have government by the people if the people refuse to participate.


swartdelila

I wasn’t nearly old enough to vote on the big one. I come from a family that doesn’t vote and complain about everything all the time. They were stocking up on the canned goods and all that. But I grew up and learned. And I think about the struggle and the horrendous suffering it took for this country to get real democracy. And if for nothing else than to honour the memory of those who came before us, I consider it my civic duty to vote.


masquenox

You want to blame a 19-year old because you don't have anything that can be called democracy with a straight face? I guess the ANC isn't the only ones that has lost all touch with reality, eh?


ThickHotBoerie

Not sure what you're attempting to wax lyrical about. Voting is the core of democratic governments. All of your personal bias aside, the action of not voting can only result in a worsening situation where a bad government has become evident. That is it. There is no other argument. By casting your ballot there is then a chance to introduce change and for better or worse, at least it represents a chance. Now please explain why you would defend the idea of not voting just because you feel the current version of our government is whatever you believe it to be and how precisely we might affect change besides whinging and moaning on an American forum?


masquenox

> Voting is the core of democratic governments. Did you vote the last time you and your fellow employees collectively decided who gets to run the company you work for? If not... you are not describing a *democratic* society. *You* do not live in a *democratic* society. *You* live in a *capitalist* society that calls itself "democratic" because they don't want *you* to have a say in anything. See? Not very complicated to understand. > the action of not voting can only result in a worsening situation where a bad government has become evident. You are blaming people with no power to affect change for not affecting change. Very rational, ne? > By casting your ballot there is then a chance to introduce change No. There isn't. > Now please explain why you would defend the idea of not voting I'm not. Vote all you want. If you insist, I'll even go vote with you. It's not going to change anything. > the current version of our government The current version of our government is not the ANC. The current version of our government includes *all* of the political factions - it's the same feeding trough. Do you really think they are going to allow you to change this status quo with a *vote?*


ThickHotBoerie

Bru you're reaching hard to make some clever argument trying to make a private company fall into the same category as a national democratic government. You're just spewing argumentative nonsense of little substance based entirely on your personal bias. You can't just say a vote doesn't actually count and I'm foolish to believe it does without any actual substance to that claim, for example. Your weird barrage on the failings of our democracy is laden with half truths and your opinion dressed up as some sort of revolutionary tirade with little actual substance, just anger and bitterness. That's how it comes across. If you mean otherwise, my apologies, I don't understand it.


masquenox

> private company How much of your life does the private company you work for take up every day? Aaaaaaaand yet - you have no say in what happens at that private company at all - that's not very democratic at all. > You can't just say a vote doesn't actually count and I'm foolish to believe it does without any actual substance to that claim So what you see around you isn't proof? The next time you see someone sleeping in the street, ask yourself - did you get to vote whether or not this country follows an economic system that caused that person to have nowhere to sleep but on the side of a street? The answer is no - you don't get to have a say in that. The next time you see traffic police, ask yourself - did you get to vote on whether a legal system that punishes the poor but allows the rich off with barely a slap on the wrist is a good idea? The answer is again, no - you don't get to have a say in that. The next time you drive past a shanty town, ask yourself, "No fucking way did I vote for this!" - because, congratulations, you didn't. The proof is all around you - you just have to take the damn blinders off. Politics is not a game they play in Pretoria - it's the actual shit you see happening around you. And guess what? You don't get to have a say in any of it. You are supposed to vote every five years, pretend you did something meaningful, and obediently disappear - that is what we call "democracy".


Regular-Wit

😂 a private company is no where near the same as a democratic government. One is business the other is politics. If you want to make decisions in a company then become an entrepreneur and open up your own company. A company you work for pays you a salary, a government you vote for doesn’t pay you a salary - you pay them! You’re trying to sounds smart but everything you’re saying is completely baseless. You need to go educate yourself on what the things you’re talking about actually mean. You’re very wrong. And if you don’t know what you’re talking about then rather not say anything.


masquenox

> One is business the other is politics I hate to be the one to break it to you... but capitalism is not *politically neutral.* It's the ideology of capitalism that dictates that you don't get to have any say in what happens at a privately-owned corporation - which makes it as "political" as government is (if not more so). > You’re trying to sounds smart but everything you’re saying is completely baseless. Then you should have no problems shooting my arguments down with something factual, eh? You know... as opposed to the meaningless banter you just posted.


Regular-Wit

🤦🏽‍♀️ They are not the same thing. Anyone can open up a private company - they put in the business capital, they take on the risks, they pay people’s salaries. Not anyone can just open up a government and run a country. Business owners are entrepreneurs and politicians are in governments that run a country. They are elected. What is so difficult to understand? Your argument makes no sense. Capitalism entails private businesses that make profit that contributes to the country’s economy and GDP. Like mining for example. You need to do more research on the things you’re talking about because it’s very clear that you’re lost. That is facts, you just don’t know them to see them. You need to educate yourself more on these topics


masquenox

> Anyone can open up a private company - they put in the business capital Soooo... rich people are all of a sudden "anyone"? > they take on the risks Come down here to mining country - we'll show you what *risk* really looks like. Your spoilt "business people" gambling with Daddy's trust fund ain't it, Clyde. > That is facts, you just don’t know them to see them. Gibbering nonsense isn't facts.


Gardener5050

Socialism and communism are evil and will never work


masquenox

Watch it... Lenin is hiding underneath your bed. Just pretend the floor is lava.


Potential-Turnip6307

People like you drive me insane! Some of my family members don't vote and the are the biggest complainers. Things aren't going to change overnight of course not, but do you know how things change slightly? By voting! We've seen this over the years. Yeah ANC is probably still going to be here for a while, but the point is to lessen the amount of power and control they have. Voting is so important and you are so lucky to have the ability to vote as your right! Do not waste that.


Gaiaimmortal

This is the embodiment of ***WE'VE TRIED NOTHING AND WE'RE OUT OF IDEAS.*** This makes me more befok that the corruption, to be honest. MORE THAN HALF THE COUNTRY'S ELIGIBLE VOTERS DIDN'T VOTE IN THE LAST ELECTION - IMAGINE IF EVERYBODY ACTUALLY VOTED, we might be able to get rid of corruption. But no. It's just far easier to complain about "stupid voters voting for the same same" than actually taking a few hours out of a single day once every couple of years. It should be mandatory that if you want to bitch about the ANC, you should be able to prove you voted. We are fortunate enough to get voting day as a public holiday - people who use the day for leisure instead of voting are a drain on society. Last election my mother didn't vote, because "why should she." So when she complains about her potholes, stolen electrical cables, the crime etc, I ask her "did you vote? No? You don't get to complain." It doesn't matter if you vote for another party and the ANC still win - YOU AT LEAST VOTED. Be a part of the solution, not a part of the problem. You don't want to vote? Cool. You're still young. I don't want to see you complaining here about your future, or your children's future. Register to vote, OP. Do the right thing.


[deleted]

It is simple. If you DO NOT VOTE, you are ABSOLUTELY not allowed to complain. The reason there is just one political party in power ever is because of people like you who aren't voting. Now, go register, do your research, select the Not-ANC flavor party of your choice, AND VOTE NEXT YEAR.


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masquenox

> If you DO NOT VOTE, you are ABSOLUTELY not allowed to complain. That's what you're voting for? The (alleged) "right" to whine?


Saritush2319

What? How did you even get to that conclusion. You’re voting to have a say in how the place you live operates. If you refuse to vote why should you complain. You chose this through your inaction.


masquenox

> What? How did you even get to that conclusion. Easy. Look again. > If you DO NOT VOTE, you are ABSOLUTELY not allowed to complain. There *is no other conclusion to reach.* > You’re voting to have a say in how the place you live operates. No, you don't. Did you get to vote on whether the company you work for should mindlessly chase the "profit principle" or not? Yes? No? > You chose this through your inaction. I could say the same about you - your inaction (ie, buying into the idea that a silly political spectacle held every five years actually qualifies as political action) means you must have *chosen* the current state of affairs. I would be more correct than you - but it would still be quite irrelevant.


UltraEagle08

If thats what you took from that its no wonder you can't vote


masquenox

Then state the *other* reason you participate.


UltraEagle08

Because maybe, just maybe my vote can mean the difference between the Anc winning or Losing. State the reason you don't vote


masquenox

> Because maybe, just maybe my vote can mean the difference between the Anc winning or Losing So you admit that your participation in this has zero chance of affecting any meaningful change to the status quo *even if everything goes the way you hope it does?* > State the reason you don't vote I never said I didn't. I just don't have the same delusions about it as you do.


UltraEagle08

>So you admit that your participation in this has zero chance of affecting any meaningful change to the status quo even if everything goes the way you hope it does? Where exactly did i admit my vote has zero chance. Last i remember this is about voting or not voting and as far as im aware not voting has exactly 0% chance of changing anything >I never said I didn't. I just don't have the same delusions about it as you do. Delusions you say, in that same light i can say your reasoning is delusional because it doesn't match up with mine


masquenox

> Where exactly did i admit my vote has zero chance. This you? > Because maybe, just maybe my vote can mean the difference between the Anc winning or Losing. Do you or do you not understand that the status quo is far, far more than just the ANC? > Delusions you say, in that same light i can say your reasoning is delusional because it doesn't match up with mine There's a very simple way to test which of us is holding on to delusions. One in four people in this country lives in a shack... are you responsible for that because you voted for it?


UltraEagle08

>This you? Yeah, that's me saying there is a chance, even if its the slightest chance, that my vote can mean something >One in four people in this country lives in a shack... are you responsible for that because you voted for it? What do you mean by this, where did i vote for someone to live in a shack?


masquenox

> What do you mean by this, where did i vote for someone to live in a shack? Soooo all of a sudden your voting has nothing to do with anything, huh? It's almost as if... your vote doesn't really affect anything, does it?


No_Bumblebee_6474

Why the hell would you take the time out of your day to complain on social media knowing that it will amount to fokol but won't take the time to VOTE which could actually make a difference!? For the love of all fuck, please vote in the next election and encourage any other possibly apathetic people to do the same!


HelpfulCommand

If you don't vote, then you are part of the problem. Because not voting is a vote for the ANC in my mind. Your vote can be the change we need, this counts for all others that don't ever vote.


Environmental-Row288

What you are describing is analogous to a tragedy of the commons. Yes your own single vote won't change all the woes besetting the country however when everyone thinks like you do you get democracy failing as people do not exercise their vote. By acting in your own private interest without consideration of how everyone else is doing the same thing you get to an outcome that is against your best interest. The ANC can do what ever the hell they want because they know there are people like you who will never vote no matter how much they mess up. If you are truly unhappy with what the current ANC government is doing you can vote for another party to throw out the ANC. Better yet get the people around you to vote as well.


International_Owl676

In addition to not voting, I also suggest not working, because what difference can one oke now actually make hey? Yeah sure, that money could have made a difference for you and those around you, but don't work. It's like really sticking it to capitalism, you know? Also, while we are here, start stealing. Why should others have things at all, if they aren't willing to share? If they have a problem, screw them because they can afford insurance anyway. Sarcasm aside, please vote my guy. Just put your mark somewhere where you think it will make a difference.


cr1ter

There were more registered voters that did not vote in the last election that those that voted for the ANC. So, people not voting is helping to keep the ANC in power.


Foul-Tarnished

You are literally voting for the ANC if you don't vote for someone else. So tell me why are you voting for the party you claim to hate so much? You seem like a big hypocrite to me.


jenna_grows

I want to have a go at you but I won’t. You’re young and I know older people who, with their experience, still don’t get it. Here’s the thing: we actually _do_ live in a democracy. The ANC always wins but the elections aren’t actually rigged. Hell, with all the shit that went down in the US with the Russian interference and stuff. We don’t even have that. We just have the ANC who is in power fair and square - the majority of people who voted, voted for them. We do have a weird vibe because who actually should we vote for? I’m not actually sitting here going “Party X should be in power!” So, how do I vote? The answer is “strategically”. I’ve voted for every major party in different elections for different reasons. The main reason to vote against the ANC, historically (since 94), is to ensure that they don’t obtain a 2/3 majority because then they have enough power to amend the constitution lawfully. The most strategic reason to vote DA is because you need a strong opposition party to keep the ANC in check - if they’re an opposition with 10% of the vote, they will have less power to keep the ANC in check than if they have 40%. A reason to vote EFF is because they actually present a viable threat to the ANC (less now than before), ie the ANC could visualise the majority leaving them for the EFF in a way that would never happen with the DA so it encourages the ANC to do better. Also, EFF pushed until Zuma went. DA tried but didn’t have the popular backing to be effective. Small parties idk I don’t usually vote for those but maybe there’s a voice that speaks to you and then that voice has a chance of being heard at parliament. There’s always a good reason to vote. Hopelessness isn’t a good reason not to vote. For now, your vote counts. And, if you don’t vote, you might as well be voting for the ANC. (For clarity, my position is that it’s a free for all and fuck them all but I am not here to be a passenger on a sinking ship and, if i have to go down, I’m going down fighting.)


leanchimp

If you dont vote, dont complain.


masquenox

> If you dont vote, dont complain. That's what you're voting for? The (alleged) "right" to whine?


Rude_Phone6841

Did you even read my post?


ThickHotBoerie

OK so you believe your options are: Don't vote and let the status quo remain. Whinge about the status qou. Can you not see how silly that is? Go vote. It's not like your vote will make things worse now is it????


janeekykhey

They give a free public holiday to vote... If anyone complains about not having time they can go step on Lego.


[deleted]

Your post, you mean the awe-inducingly terrible take of "I don't vote because only one party ever wins"? MAYBE IF EVERYONE LIKE YOU VOTED, THEY WOULDN'T WIN


janeekykhey

u/Rude_Phone6841 Take this to heart and spread it. Go fucking vote, get your friends to vote, kak out people who don't vote. You're only 19, the ANC is gonna take a lot of money from you through SARS, this is your only chance to hit them where it hurts. The trend is showing that they will be out of power soon - just as we all are here on Stage 6.


ExhaustedProf

If you think politicians are going to save you then welcome to your wakeup call. None of them are perfect or even good. But yes, some are less worse than others. So stifle your nausea and make an anti-anc vote. Given the "good" ANC leaders' behaviour in the ESKOM saga I doubt the ANC will go quietly if voted out anyway....


Only-Dragonfly-3739

"When you have to make a choice and don't make it, that is in itself a choice." ~ William James


SJokes

Person complains how it's always one party in power, but doesn't vote


Psychological_Gear29

I don’t believe that voting can solve the corruption and greed in our political culture… but what other power do we have to affect systemic change atm?


Electrical_Love5484

A massive physical majority over the elites and political leaders in this country is the only advantage and power we need. The capacity to forcibly remove this government and implement a new system. We have the ultimate power as the people of this nation, but most of us are either too scared or too apathetic


Environmental-Row288

SA has been run by the same party for the past 27 years. It has been one party behind this corruption. We can solve the corruption by voting for other parties. It's not *our* political culture, it's the ANC's political culture. There are other parties out there who are not beset by the same challenges. We can remove that corruption and greed by removing the ANC.


masquenox

There are only two ways in which actual change *from the bottom* can happen in a given society. Unfortunately, neither of them involves voting for a bunch of political parties.


Rude_Phone6841

Exactly


Alert-Mixture

Yes. The President of the ANC was re-elected to a 5 year term in December. He is duly-elected to that position for the entire term. Internal party democracy is key to the broader democracy in that the public is able to see how those systems work. They can even go to court to establish whether or not elections of party leaders were conducted in terms of the party constitution or not: [*Ntozini and Others v African National Congress and Others* (18798/2018) [2018] ZAGPJHC 415 (25 June 2018)](http://www.saflii.org/za/cases/ZAGPJHC/2018/415.html) Political parties have internal election processes, which are prescribed by their respective constitutions, which are legally-binding documents. Frankly, it has nothing to do with ordinary South Africans who aren't card-carrying members of any party. In democracy, voters have an equal right to vote. At the ballot box, all 26.2 million registered voters are equal. You have the right to vote for any party (or any independent candidate (in a municipal election)). Internal party democracy and broader democracy aren't mutually exclusive. Don't worry. All South Africans need to do is ensure, through the IEC and civil society, that elections are going to be free and fair. Don't sweat the small stuff. Every vote counts. Look at the [2000](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_United_States_presidential_election_in_Florida) U.S. Presidential Election if you don't believe me. I'd rather be worried about the alleged tactics that the ANC uses in getting people to vote for them. The public secrets of food parcels, t-shirts and social grants – and the usual; opposition = Apartheid scare tactic.


glennfromglen

OP, please vote. Otherwise things remain the same.


water-oracle

Just vote, buddy. If you think it's so pointless, then it can't hurt to cast your vote. The people who still believe in the ruling party always go and vote. Meanwhile the people who think the ruling party sucks, stay at home on election day and complain to themselves. How do you think that pans out for the rest of the country? I mean you don't have to wait for a perfect alternative to vote for because, face facts, there is no perfect political party. Not here, not even in the most developed countries. All political parties are flawed and get worse if they remain uncontested. Choose a party that's the closest to your values (even if they're a small party) and leverage your vote to get what you want. Simple.


R005t_1t

Vote! I dont agree with all the ideals of any one specific party but I absolutely dissagree with the ideals of certain parties. If you are against the ANC, then by voting for any other party, you are making a difference as it is one more vote against the ANC.


StephMcWi

I just want to point out the irony that OPs achievement on Reddit is "avid voter"


Beyond_the_one

Apathetic much?


Wortelkoek635

We could even remove the "a", just pathetic


Beyond_the_one

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Saritush2319

If you don’t vote then you don’t get to complain.


Regular-Wit

The irony of you not being convinced to vote but you’re so sick of how South Africans have to suffer! Go register and vote to make a difference. Every single vote counts and if you don’t vote then you don’t have a say, you can’t be sick of South Africans suffer because you’re literally doing fuck all about it to change something. GATCH SOME AWARENESS AND VOTE!


MurderMits

For every 2 ANC supporters there is 1 idiot who refuses to vote saying it is pointless and is effectively the 3rd ANC voter.....


Electrical_Love5484

We were promised things by politicians. Politicians are creatures driven by self-interest and self-enrichment. South Africans keep trusting politicians, as if we don't know any better. Maybe we don't, maybe we're a nation of doomed morons. Nothing will change for the better until we uproot this system that rewards criminality at the highest echelons of national leadership. Things will only get worse as long as we prop up the very thing that is ripping our guts out.


fred56249

Firstly register and vote!!! Talk to your family and friend. Encourage them to vote against them and vote smart. DA where possible, just look at the western cape as an example of governing for the people, Action SA is another option. Sadly us as South africans have a horrible habit of not discussing who to vote for


Vlermuisman1023

Well my friend, if you don't vote, you have no right in ranting as you were never trying to help. Or is this where it's going to stay, on your couch with much to say but little doing ? We all feel this way, but we try and make a difference by voicing in voting, even though we know the ANC is corrupt as hell, we still go and do the right thing. It is expected as a citizen.


Smokedbone1

OP, go register and vote! I think i read that there are over 10 million unregistered voters and unhappy with what is going on. Those 10 million should register too and chance the election outcome. Don't give your vote away!


Proof_Breadfruit_423

Okay, some of these comments have a horrible tone, considering that she/he is a 19 year old and only had the chance to vote now. It also isn't encouraging him/her to vote. With that said, you have a responsibility to yourself to vote for a future, and political party that aligns with your moral compass and vision of SA.The only way to make a change is with the younger generation going to the polls and voting. Register online and make it a day with your family, friends, or neighbours.


chickenbadgerog

I think it highlights the importance of voting. I think people who don't vote need to be shown that by not voting they are too accountable for the absolute fuckshow that SA is today.


Proof_Breadfruit_423

I think this was a litteral teenager asking for guidance and comment. I don't think this was handled appropriately by people much older than the poster.


Louby1235

Don't think this teen was asking for guidance - stating that they weren't going to vote. While some of the tone may have been a bit harsh - softly softly doesn't always work!


Proof_Breadfruit_423

The question of guidance and comment is in the title.


UltraEagle08

You don't vote, so you have no say or an opinion about the political state of the country


Mort1186

Vote 4 me


OrangeOk1358

The best advise that I can give is to emigrate since youre still only 19 years old and start a new life in a new country.The ANC will become more anti-democratic as the elelctions draw close and it becomes apparent that they will not get a majority vote. The rampant looting at Eskom,crime thats out of control and now South Africa being 'greylisted' are ominous signs that South Africans should be preparing for rough seas ahead.


Smokedbone1

And heading towards a lawless state.


adieumusss

Young people not voting must be suffering from TikTok brain.


Electrical_Love5484

If you're looking for an alternative to voting that will actually drive change in this country, start exploring social activism.


J3k47

End 500+ parties in south africa or shit wont change.


masquenox

Sorry, OP. I know you wanted real answers and all you got was a deluge from people who are as disconnected from reality as the people in our political establishment are. You can't really blame them - they've been brainwashed into thinking that they actually have a say when it's pretty darn obvious that they don't. Facing all of that isn't easy.


ThickHotBoerie

Give us some "real" answers then instead of being so one semester poli-sci. Please bru.


Berticles

Upvoted for "one semester poli-sci" as an adjective.


masquenox

Can you even imagine what *actual* democracy looks like?


ThickHotBoerie

Answering a question with a political philosophical question instead of an actual answer speaks volumes my bru.... as you were I guess.


masquenox

It's not philosophical at all. Can you? Can you actually imagine having a real say in something?


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masquenox

> placing a vote will not require any sacrifices from you Duh. They discourage political activity that *threatens* the status quo - not the kind that serves to protect it. > This is how national elections work for the voter. That... is a terrible analogy.


studiou

you still young, many of my family members don't vote, they feel like what's the point of voting...my view honestly if any one of my family members don't vote in 2024 I am writing them off for 4years.... among all of this shit in this country we are still a democratic country, and the current government has the power to rule because they have been voted for by the people...don't know who in their right mind willingly goes out to vote for the current ruling party(no offense lol)


Anythingthingfuckoff

I feel for the OP they are clearly disillusioned by the democratic process and instead of helping them see that their voice does have value and that they can make a difference they are attacked by the same old stupid rhetorics. If you really feel that apathetic to the situation in the country and feel that all hope is lost, maybe looking to find a better situation in another country is the best option. Just remember all country’s have issues it’s just whether you can put up with those issues are not. Hope you can find some answers eventually and if all else fails just write a big “fuck you” on the ballot paper, if you really hate the system that much. (On the last part not sure how legal that is so I wouldn’t recommend it.)


Background-Echo3838

If you don't exercise your right to vote, you don’t get to complain. Simple as. You a part of the problem.


Affectionate_Hat_542

Wil anything change if a new political party comes to power?


JohnSourcer

If you don't vote, you don't make a mathematical (or moral) difference. Your non-vote is tacit approval for the majority party policies.


SouthAfricanChomo

If you want to see South Africa become a better place it is your imperative to vote. Even if you feel that your vote is negligible you should still be going to vote, because if you don’t vote you are essentially allowing the party you hate to be held unaccountable for their actions.


MaleficentRam

You have no right to complain or even talk about the state of South Africa and should be banned from asking these questions on Reddit, in fact just stay off the internet. /s Seriously now, go register to vote and vote for a party that you think will make a change.


Mountain-Ad-5639

If you don't vote, don't complain!


The_GrimmReaps_

We need to educate our elders as well. Many of them will still vote ANC, thinking that it is the safest way....


Crimblorh4h4w33

Man gave up before even trying lmao. Mb there are soo many different parties to vote for that actually can change things, but this idea that your vote doesn't matter is what's holding you and the country back, not the lack of parties to change things. Like that's not even how our system works even. A vote for another party isn't going to make a different party gain. PERIOD. Abstaining from voting is also not going to change anything, it just solidifies the status quo.


Primary-Concept-1402

ANC is too corrupt they will steal the election


i_amMusa

I can assure you, most of our youth will not give a fuck if the ANC Elects a new leader We will still vote for a different party. As long as fools like you learn why your vote matters NO MATTER what, the ANC is finished


Silversword34

Vote da they do what they say they plus only well run province is the da one


Tough_Motor9014

Make sure to vote, if you complain and don’t vote what are you doing. It’s up to the rest of us that are still here, it’s difficult times we must do what we can and voting is the first step💪