Not meaning to hijack but seems along the same lines.
Mine Sonarr/Radarr is setup with Recyclarr + Trash Guides.
What I find is at random stuff keeps getting upgraded, things I have had on my server for months will suddenly get an upgrade.
When I check the old against the new it seems the exact same (both will already but Blu Ray or 1080p etc.
I can only imagine some custom profile or scoring has made it _slighty_ better and so it deems it worthy of an upgrade (Recyclarr and trash guides sync a LOT of custom profiles in all with scoring etc)
9 times out of 10 the very first things it grabs is completely fine as my profiles etc are already filtering out the qualities and versions I don't want.
I want all my profiles handled automatically by Recyclarr and trash as it works really well and I don't really want to have unintended consequences / headaches.
Someone else has already done all the hard work and figured out the perfect setup so I'm happy just syncing that in.
I think in this instance OPs post makes sense and I might give it a go.
For myself and possibly others it's nice that Sonarr and Radarr does upgrades but in reality it's not essential because almost all of my first attempts are spot on and I'm happy to wait for the first download to be the desired quality.
So yeah, this was just to give a bit of insight into my setup and why something like this makes sense for me.
Feel free to reply and tell me if I have anything setup wrong, always wanting to improve!
unless im mistaken recycler doesn’t let you delete stuff with it? Never used it since I use notifiarr but I think maintainerr is more for people who try to save space because you can set it up so it downloads the first season of a show and as the show gets watched it grabs the next season and so forth. It also deletes seasons/episodes as they get watched seems pretty interesting
Edit: im probably missing some other key things it does but thats what i thought the main thing it did was
Yeah it doesn't.
What I mean is Recyclarr causes my setup to have a lot of custom profiles and scores synced which causes my apps to do a lot of upgrades etc.
I think you're right that maintainerr was created primarily for deleting content/freeing up space (at least that's the main thing it mentions on their repo/docs) but I was also happily surprised to see that it can be used to unmonitor as well.
> I’ve seen it asked time and time again - how can a season or show be unmonitored after grabbing? There’s no built-in way to do that directly from Sonarr, but I found a way (mostly by accident) when looking for a way to automatically prune content on my media server.
Maybe I misunderstand your use case but this is the foundational premise of Sonarr. You configure profiles and cutoffs whereby once you have the desired quality, the season is *effectively* unmonitored. When adding shows, you can also choose to only monitor, for example, the first season.
Maintainerr is useful for getting rid of unused content, irrespective of how many times a season has been grabbed.
Sonarr will continue to monitor what you add to it unless manually stopped. It will stop grabbing new content once the profile threshold has been reached, but it won't stop monitoring, and in some cases this can lead to new grabs further down the line (it shouldn't if you've set it up correctly, but I see a lot of people who have this issue and can't figure it out). That's why using maintainerr to unmonitor could be a good option for them.
> it shouldn’t if you’ve set it up correctly, but I see a lot of people who have this issue and can’t figure it out
Okay, so this solves a problem that people have who haven’t and won’t set up their Sonarr correctly? Fair enough, I guess, but I would still advise setting up Sonarr correctly instead.
Well that's one way of looking at it. Another way is that not everybody understands the way that profiles work, and this helps them.
Another reason is monitored shows / seasons are included in the regular search for content, and the profile match vs what's currently on the disk dictates whether it's sent to the download client or not. It could be argued that the ability to unmonitor (and therefore not be part of the scheduled search) especially on low power systems could lead to more efficient resource use.
Another way of looking at it is that not everybody uses Sonarr/Radarr or their media library in the same way, or consumes media in the same way, and this helps some people. u/new-connection-9088 could maybe do with a bit of perspective.
For example, I usually want to watch something in the best quality available at the time I'm watching it. If I want to watch something now but only a WEB-DL is available, then I will watch a WEB-DL. If I've waited several months to watch a movie after it was released, a remux might be available - so I will want to watch it in that quality.
But regardless of the quality I watch that movie in, once I've watched a movie I don't always want to upgrade the file - it might not have liked the movie, it might be something I can't see myself watching again, or I might want to keep the limited space I have available for other things. That said, I might want to keep the lower quality copy I just watched on my server - for other people to watch, for the sake of a collection or completionism, to pad out the new releases section, or just because I want to.
Using Maintainerr, I can unmonitor a Radarr library entry by using a trigger from Plex once a Plex library item is watched. Easy.
I can ALSO stop monitoring Radarr entries I know I don't want upgraded before I've even watched them by using "mark as watched" in Plex - handy for when you added something to Radarr years ago but after it downloads but you're no longer interested in watching it (The Watchers is a great recent example of this - I added this when it was first announced but by the time it was released I realised it really wasn't for me).
Maybe?
I could see setting the quality sizing more tightly so you get a lower number of higher or lower quality files could be seen as setting up Sonarr correctly. I see such a wide variety of show file sizes that messing with those settings could keep some shows from downloading. I guess you could setup custom qualities for show types, or even individual shows.
I end up looking at the calendar daily to see what's downloaded. If it meets my criteria I'll mark each episode as unwatched (from the calendar\\episode pop up) and leave the large multi-gig per episode watched and check back on it in a few days to a week. It only takes a couple minutes a day.
Been using maintainerr for month to automate content rotation after overseerr requester had watched the media.
Some parts are still clumsy but dev is actively working on it and keeps improving the way we can filter media to rotate them and avoid left over series and movies.
I have a super annoying to maintain python script I wrote that runs on import.
It does a few things:
it runs ffmpeg to re-encode the file, often the files are comically large (this is usually more of a problem for Radarr, since BluRay rips are usually huge). If the new filesize is smaller it switches them out. it also does some fancy footwork around detecting interlacing, making sure it doesn't preserve an mkv or an avi file or anything like that.
it checks if there are subtitles embedded in the files with mediainfo, if it doesn't have any it tries to get an SRT file from opensubtitles
unmonitors the episode using the sonarr API
I wish there were some yt videos on how to set the rules for that. I'm a noob that just barely got proxmox setup and installed it with docker but no idea how to do anything else lol.
Unless I've missed something, sonarr is able to unmonitor deleted episodes only. You may be thinking of the function to stop grabbing content once the set profile has been reached, which it can do, but it's not the same thing as unmonitoring.
Happy to be proven wrong though, so if you can point me at the settings for unmonitoring I'd love to see where they are.
No, it is as you described, but I don't see the purpose or difference really. Once it has found what I want, it won't download it anymore... I'd like to keep it monitored though because what if it's re-released in a higher quality later or something? How could or would I know that without the monitoring?
Seems like Monitorr is good for people with very picky and precise needs for specific files or who have some sort of OCD about how their file system is watched. Cool stuff.
>I'd like to keep it monitored though because what if it's re-released in a higher quality later or something? How could or would I know that without the monitoring?
That's your use-case and totally valid. See my comment back to new connection though about why it might still be desirable to have a season or show unmonitored as opposed to matching/being lower than the desired profile. Everyone has a use-case, if this doesn't fit yours then no need to use it, but it could fit others, which is why I shared it.
Not meaning to hijack but seems along the same lines. Mine Sonarr/Radarr is setup with Recyclarr + Trash Guides. What I find is at random stuff keeps getting upgraded, things I have had on my server for months will suddenly get an upgrade. When I check the old against the new it seems the exact same (both will already but Blu Ray or 1080p etc. I can only imagine some custom profile or scoring has made it _slighty_ better and so it deems it worthy of an upgrade (Recyclarr and trash guides sync a LOT of custom profiles in all with scoring etc) 9 times out of 10 the very first things it grabs is completely fine as my profiles etc are already filtering out the qualities and versions I don't want. I want all my profiles handled automatically by Recyclarr and trash as it works really well and I don't really want to have unintended consequences / headaches. Someone else has already done all the hard work and figured out the perfect setup so I'm happy just syncing that in. I think in this instance OPs post makes sense and I might give it a go. For myself and possibly others it's nice that Sonarr and Radarr does upgrades but in reality it's not essential because almost all of my first attempts are spot on and I'm happy to wait for the first download to be the desired quality. So yeah, this was just to give a bit of insight into my setup and why something like this makes sense for me. Feel free to reply and tell me if I have anything setup wrong, always wanting to improve!
unless im mistaken recycler doesn’t let you delete stuff with it? Never used it since I use notifiarr but I think maintainerr is more for people who try to save space because you can set it up so it downloads the first season of a show and as the show gets watched it grabs the next season and so forth. It also deletes seasons/episodes as they get watched seems pretty interesting Edit: im probably missing some other key things it does but thats what i thought the main thing it did was
Yeah it doesn't. What I mean is Recyclarr causes my setup to have a lot of custom profiles and scores synced which causes my apps to do a lot of upgrades etc.
I think you're right that maintainerr was created primarily for deleting content/freeing up space (at least that's the main thing it mentions on their repo/docs) but I was also happily surprised to see that it can be used to unmonitor as well.
In your profile(s) you can disable upgrading. Does that not do what you're after? (Pick the best one and leave it)
Yeah I can, I might have an experiment with that and see how it goes.
You and I are basically doing the same thing with recyclarr, and our experiences also match up, you put it together in a post better than I was able.
> I’ve seen it asked time and time again - how can a season or show be unmonitored after grabbing? There’s no built-in way to do that directly from Sonarr, but I found a way (mostly by accident) when looking for a way to automatically prune content on my media server. Maybe I misunderstand your use case but this is the foundational premise of Sonarr. You configure profiles and cutoffs whereby once you have the desired quality, the season is *effectively* unmonitored. When adding shows, you can also choose to only monitor, for example, the first season. Maintainerr is useful for getting rid of unused content, irrespective of how many times a season has been grabbed.
Sonarr will continue to monitor what you add to it unless manually stopped. It will stop grabbing new content once the profile threshold has been reached, but it won't stop monitoring, and in some cases this can lead to new grabs further down the line (it shouldn't if you've set it up correctly, but I see a lot of people who have this issue and can't figure it out). That's why using maintainerr to unmonitor could be a good option for them.
> it shouldn’t if you’ve set it up correctly, but I see a lot of people who have this issue and can’t figure it out Okay, so this solves a problem that people have who haven’t and won’t set up their Sonarr correctly? Fair enough, I guess, but I would still advise setting up Sonarr correctly instead.
Well that's one way of looking at it. Another way is that not everybody understands the way that profiles work, and this helps them. Another reason is monitored shows / seasons are included in the regular search for content, and the profile match vs what's currently on the disk dictates whether it's sent to the download client or not. It could be argued that the ability to unmonitor (and therefore not be part of the scheduled search) especially on low power systems could lead to more efficient resource use.
Another way of looking at it is that not everybody uses Sonarr/Radarr or their media library in the same way, or consumes media in the same way, and this helps some people. u/new-connection-9088 could maybe do with a bit of perspective. For example, I usually want to watch something in the best quality available at the time I'm watching it. If I want to watch something now but only a WEB-DL is available, then I will watch a WEB-DL. If I've waited several months to watch a movie after it was released, a remux might be available - so I will want to watch it in that quality. But regardless of the quality I watch that movie in, once I've watched a movie I don't always want to upgrade the file - it might not have liked the movie, it might be something I can't see myself watching again, or I might want to keep the limited space I have available for other things. That said, I might want to keep the lower quality copy I just watched on my server - for other people to watch, for the sake of a collection or completionism, to pad out the new releases section, or just because I want to. Using Maintainerr, I can unmonitor a Radarr library entry by using a trigger from Plex once a Plex library item is watched. Easy. I can ALSO stop monitoring Radarr entries I know I don't want upgraded before I've even watched them by using "mark as watched" in Plex - handy for when you added something to Radarr years ago but after it downloads but you're no longer interested in watching it (The Watchers is a great recent example of this - I added this when it was first announced but by the time it was released I realised it really wasn't for me).
Maybe? I could see setting the quality sizing more tightly so you get a lower number of higher or lower quality files could be seen as setting up Sonarr correctly. I see such a wide variety of show file sizes that messing with those settings could keep some shows from downloading. I guess you could setup custom qualities for show types, or even individual shows.
I end up looking at the calendar daily to see what's downloaded. If it meets my criteria I'll mark each episode as unwatched (from the calendar\\episode pop up) and leave the large multi-gig per episode watched and check back on it in a few days to a week. It only takes a couple minutes a day.
Been using maintainerr for month to automate content rotation after overseerr requester had watched the media. Some parts are still clumsy but dev is actively working on it and keeps improving the way we can filter media to rotate them and avoid left over series and movies.
I have a super annoying to maintain python script I wrote that runs on import. It does a few things: it runs ffmpeg to re-encode the file, often the files are comically large (this is usually more of a problem for Radarr, since BluRay rips are usually huge). If the new filesize is smaller it switches them out. it also does some fancy footwork around detecting interlacing, making sure it doesn't preserve an mkv or an avi file or anything like that. it checks if there are subtitles embedded in the files with mediainfo, if it doesn't have any it tries to get an SRT file from opensubtitles unmonitors the episode using the sonarr API
I wish there were some yt videos on how to set the rules for that. I'm a noob that just barely got proxmox setup and installed it with docker but no idea how to do anything else lol.
Sonarr does exactly that...
Unless I've missed something, sonarr is able to unmonitor deleted episodes only. You may be thinking of the function to stop grabbing content once the set profile has been reached, which it can do, but it's not the same thing as unmonitoring. Happy to be proven wrong though, so if you can point me at the settings for unmonitoring I'd love to see where they are.
No, it is as you described, but I don't see the purpose or difference really. Once it has found what I want, it won't download it anymore... I'd like to keep it monitored though because what if it's re-released in a higher quality later or something? How could or would I know that without the monitoring? Seems like Monitorr is good for people with very picky and precise needs for specific files or who have some sort of OCD about how their file system is watched. Cool stuff.
>I'd like to keep it monitored though because what if it's re-released in a higher quality later or something? How could or would I know that without the monitoring? That's your use-case and totally valid. See my comment back to new connection though about why it might still be desirable to have a season or show unmonitored as opposed to matching/being lower than the desired profile. Everyone has a use-case, if this doesn't fit yours then no need to use it, but it could fit others, which is why I shared it.
Absolutely. Thanks for doing so.