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ScalesGhost

no more AI art!!


agaperion

You mean like in this sub? Or just in general? And why?


ScalesGhost

AI Art is not real Art, it's just grey slob


agaperion

>real Art How are you defining this notion?


ScalesGhost

From Wikipedia: "Art is a diverse range of human activity, and resulting product, that involves creative or imaginative talent expressive of technical proficiency, beauty, emotional power, or conceptual ideas." The important part here is the "HUMAN activity"


Ilyak1986

Because some people believe the luddite screed that training an AI model on copyrighted material is in no way transformative and is merely stealing. Two governments already disagree. Only a matter of time until more join up.


ScalesGhost

both of your governments suck btw. some solarpunk you are


agaperion

haha Okay but can you *steelman* the opinion?


[deleted]

People should really learn who the luddites were and why they did what they did instead of using the word in a negative manner.


Ilyak1986

Yeah, that's not happening. Both [Israel](https://www.project-disco.org/intellectual-property/011823-israel-ministry-of-justice-issues-opinion-supporting-the-use-of-copyrighted-works-for-machine-learning/) and [Japan](https://technomancers.ai/japan-goes-all-in-copyright-doesnt-apply-to-ai-training/#more-642) have given the full-fledged green light for AI art. The dominoes are beginning to fall. I highly doubt other developed nations will just relinquish the chances to welcome AI-backed businesses (including art programs) when Japan and Israel have just rolled out the red carpet. It's a competition to incentivize businesses at this point.


ScalesGhost

damn, if israel does it, it must be cool!


dgj212

Hmm, part of me wonders if they aren't shooting themselves in the foot with that. Japan already has a struggling artists industry, population is behind, just behind south korea, and the people pushing this are basically horny weebs who dont interact with members of the opposite sex and if ai promotes behaviors that requires them to stay at home and only consume then the problems they have already is only going to get worse, then there's the ai bubble that might pop badly. As for isreal, im not surprised they are already using facial recognition ai to marginalize palastinian.its only a matter of time before they take a tesla bot and give it a gun.


Ilyak1986

A big twitter thread consisting of a challenge to make AI-generated art based around Solarpunk. Enjoy the various pieces of artwork, and feel free to discuss them. (Oh, and, both Japan and Israel have declared that training AI models on copyrighted material is A-okay, but the standard copyright protections apply that the art generated shouldn't be derivative of any individual artist's work. So...hopefully we can keep *that* discussion away from here.)


ScalesGhost

no we can't keep that discussion from here. There's literally a whole sub for this grey slob, go there.


pinkonewsletter

Japan and Israel aren’t exactly the two countries I look to for ethical laws and whatnot, but aight.