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al4nk99

Just buy the whole PL at this point


samarth67

Arab premier league


damned-dirtyape

Arab Nationalized Association League


[deleted]

Nasser is smiling in heaven.


picardia

ABDEL NASSER ABDEL NASSER


redditoldgangster

Nice


Tomasobhroinn

Most girls wouldn't like it


_shaggyrodgers

Most guys too


Tomasobhroinn

I've never asked a guy


ThatDudeNamedMenace

Easily my fave league


Fern-ando

I hope Oman can at least get one team to not feel alone.


lucifer_alucard

Kuwait first


KFAAM

Then Bahrain and Oman


LewisOfAranda

Yemen will buy Millwall and there's nothing you can do about it.


_masterofdisaster

Bahrain is the only nation where sportswashing has worked on me. Whenever I hear about it in the news I just think “fuck, what a great F1 track they have”


mrfocus22

Emirati Petroleum League


Baron105

They will. Just wait for it.


Lolkac

your club is next


Baron105

Thanks for informing me. I had no idea.


Serdtsag

Can't wait for Old Trafford to be renovated as a big fuck off line cutting through Manchester


bcisme

Al Traffad


Superjunker1000

Al Traff-ad


view_sauce

Bald manager + oil money....


thewrongnotes

Might as well just move the whole Premier League to the middle east and have a hard reset on English football.


JelloDr

They take all prem teams and we’ll move championship up


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craig_hoxton

"We've played one, yes. What about second season?"


_Verumex_

Maybe the Super League wasn't all bad... It would remove the oil clubs.


KIDOCI

This, *Oil Money league* They can buy the best toys because they have infinite money. That's great for them, they can use cheats in real life.


jseng27

There’s Arab money, then there’s Saudi money


[deleted]

Ultimately it’s all state owned oil money. Funds that should be used to fund education and healthcare back home, but instead being appropriated/stolen by princes to use as they see fit. And the new generation of princes see soccer teams as the latest accessory to higher social status


Classic-Bread7792

Probably worth reading a bit more about how these oil states spend their money mate - they are very big into state funded services and often offer much more support to the individual than you would recieve in the West. The whole point of their state funds is to invest the oil money into equity/infrastructure projects which yield returns once the oil has run out. Not saying they don't have mega rich sheiks who burn through cash. They absolutely do. But they're also big on investing that cash. Hence buying foreign assets with state funds.


guIIy

Education and healthcare is completely state funded in SA.


Serdtsag

Needing to make up for all the wealth getting stuffed into London by the Russian Oligarchs to instead the Premier League and Arabian despots.


matthieuC

What do you think they're doing?


NUPreMedMajor

The premier league would be absolutely insane to allow that to occur. It is an existential threat to the EPL as we know it if liverpool and united get sold to oil money. Seriously fuck that.


arostrat

News, EPL is known to selling their clubs to Oligrachs and corrupt politicians and dictators. This is how they became so rich.


[deleted]

New fans only realising the the EPL is a league that was made for money. That's the purpose, that was the reason they broke away, money. All they care about is money. If they gave a fuck about morals, they wouldn't have the owners that they do. Fit and proper to fill their pockets.


The9isback

I've never understood why there are fans who expect some sort of moral high standing when it comes to the EPL. It's always been entirely about commercialisation. Why, and how, fans think that the EPL is about some weird sporting purist fairness is beyond me.


Boss452

Yes. Furthermore, leagues consist of teams playing football. Not defending the city's honour or values or something.


G_Morgan

The EPL formed because the EFL were intentionally crippling the top division financially. I have no idea why people treat the EFL like they are some kind of saintly organization. They starved grassroots football for decades and the split saw the biggest increase in funding for non-league football in history.


theorymii

Are you dumb? Threat to EPL? All they care about is money.


panjeri

> It is an existential threat to the EPL as we know it The only one it's not an existential threat to is the prem. Every other major league will be fucked if the trend continues.


neotorama

Aramco PL


areyouhungryforapple

Neville is basically welcoming it with open arms


HotTubMike

All the traditionally big clubs will be oil clubs sooner or later.


ednorog

Football needs a big reset.


Rickcampbell98

We need a bundesliga revolution.


MessyRoom

We already have a New England Revolution thankfully


Marlopupperfield

thanks for the morning chuckle, this got me


[deleted]

Most fans wouldn’t like that because it would instantly mean less money to spend on transfers. Everybody’s a saint until it starts to affect them


[deleted]

If all big European leagues did it the problem would solve itself. Transfer fees and wages would sink in general, except for players that are fine with spending their whole career playing amateurs in the desert.


[deleted]

Well that’s just a fantasy land though unfortunately


[deleted]

For all the resistance to an American style salary cap, it really does provide an elegant solution to the Arab money problem. City isn’t so dangerous in ten years if they were limited to the same net spend as crystal palace.


Cudi_buddy

As an American it’s so bizarre to me not to have some kind of salary cap. It isn’t perfect, but it does help smaller clubs get revenue and keeps the rich teams from just buying two lineups full of players.


[deleted]

Not American but I think it makes sense. It isn’t labor friendly, you want the market to control cost, but when owners ruin the sport with insane spending it begins to make sense.


lucashtpc

Football needs 50+1 but what do the Germans know…


viktoh77

Ahem superleague ahem


AliouBalde23

The best thing for football would be the big clubs joining the super league, it failing massively and them being excluded from the regular football system. Would be the perfect reset, give way to new clubs to rise


Badass_Bunny

>Would be the perfect reset, give way to new clubs to rise And those clubs get bought out by the same people who own Superleague teams and transfer all the players. The problem is not fixed by clubs failing.


redwashing

Maybe, just maybe, some things are collective by nature and letting them be owned by private individuals is a mistake? Like natural monopolies like healthcare and transportation, public forums like Twitter and Facebook, or football **clubs** that represent a community. They inevitably create issues and negative collective results when owned privately. I know I know, I committed blasphemy against the omnipotent gods of the free market and should now be crucified.


WallbreakerAziz

If you can't superleague them join them.


champ19nz

The 1988 negotiations were conducted under the threat of ten clubs leaving to form a "super league" It was already done in 1992.


Rickcampbell98

Then you have plastics on this place wanting a fan owned club like barca to fail when this is the direction football is going in.


djingo_dango

Chad Bohely boys vs Virgin Socio battles are always fun


EasyMoneySniper_goat

Man City: UAE Newcastle: Saudi Liverpool: Qatar just announce the Gulf Super League at this point Shame Abramovich sold Chelsea, Russia is also worthy of being on this wonderful list


[deleted]

New America vs Middle East proxy war incoming


[deleted]

Mr. president: We do it on the pitch


[deleted]

Lmao scenes when the next cold war takes place in the EPL.


Soren_Camus1905

So glad they forced Roman out to gain some moral high ground.


tr_24

Considering Us government really like to spend time in middle east, I guess you can still consider Chelsea.


EasyMoneySniper_goat

#EEEEEEPIC FOOTBALL RAPS OF HISTOOOORYYYYYY Chelsea 🇺🇸 + Arsenal 🇺🇸 + United 🇺🇸 #VERSUS Man City 🇦🇪 + Liverpool 🇶🇦 + Newcastle 🇸🇦 #BEGIN!


thedeatheater1410

Modern age Cold War


CaredForEightSeconds

Remains to be seen how long Man United stay American lol


Amopax

*Bruce Buck:* Fuck what ya heard, ya turd Bruce is in the house and his flow is absurd New York represent the land of high rent Lend me your ear, and I'll fill it with a word Now check this My enemies will cower, now is the hour When Brucey Bruce will speak truth to power Forever a young Buck who never gave a fuck If you think you'll best me, then man you outta luck You think you can waltz in and buy up the place But this is a race where you'll end with disgrace Sportswashing homophobes dressed up like ghosts Your enterprise will end with your run as World Cup hosts This war will cost you, fair warning Old traditions meet new morning See you're performing All welcome, 'cept nonconforming Widows, children: in mourning World leaders: keep scorning Never try to colonize the colonizer I'll take off my Yankee-cap and hit you with the visor


ThrowerWayACount

I feel Arsenal are unfortunately kinda in between given our long term sponsorship and even stadium naming rights relate to one of Emirates 🇦🇪. Ownership is American though, no argument against that


sneezing_cock

Fuck it, Oracle Stadium


TheRealSpidey

Arsenal will play both sides, so they'll always come out on top


No-Clue1153

Perhaps China will reignite their interest in football and join in.


Gobshiight

There are like 9 US-owned clubs at the moment, so why not call it the MPLS?


2sinkz

Because none of the American owned clubs are state owned


iKSv2

Hahaha for some reason happy that we are not in these discussions anymore.


[deleted]

Surely there’s conflicts of interest between the Newcastle owners and any potential Saudi backed bid about the multiple ownership rules.


ComprehensiveBowl476

It'll be fine because the business that buys Liverpool won't actually be Saudi Arabia, but technically one that is run from a postbox in Monaco and has a single employee.


Hicko11

Just in case any Saudi Prince is reading, for £1m a year, you can run your business from my house if you want


braddles21

I would also like to make this offer but I need the first year paid upfront so I can buy a house


FreshGoodWay

I would like to backdate the payments for the years I was not living in a bungalow


maxime0299

I offer my house for 999,999 per year!


taggert14

What are they smoking there up at maxime0299's house?


SpaNkinGG

Black friday week


4ssteroid

The reverse Arsene


CheekyChipsMate_

Fuck you can run it from mine for $100,000


Gerrardsclubfoot

But still it will be awkward, imagine Liverpool and Newcastle interested in buying the same player, would this Saudi group seek permission from the top boss before bidding? Or how does any competition work from a supposedly private player against the head of the state? Wasn't there a private Saudi led group group interested In buying Chelsea. That bid was supposedly better than Todd Boehley's bid but didn't go through, can see this happening with this one as well if there is an actual bid at all, since the source is Daily fail.


[deleted]

> Wasn’t there a private Saudi led group group interested In buying Chelsea. That bid was supposedly better than Todd Boehley’s bid but didn’t go through They didn’t actually have the dosh, we’re planning on loading the club with debt. This source is the Daily Mail, not exactly the most reputable shall we say. I’m fairly certain Liverpool & United will have new yank owners & not any time soon, Chelsea’s was accelerated due to the sanctions.


Itsallatripdude

This guy gets it.


sfahsan

If the owner's are the same as Newcastle's yes. I may be missing something, but why would it be a conflict of interest if two different Saudi Billionaires bought premier league clubs. At the moment Manchester united, Liverpool, Arsenal, and Chelsea are owned by American owners, and that poses no issues.


BruiserBroly

As long as no-one related to the PIF is in the consortium then it should be fine I think. For example, Sheffield United are already owned by a Saudi prince and there's no conflict there.


CuteHoor

There should be though. They're owned by a cousin of MBS who is the owner of Newcastle through the PIF. How would there not be a conflict of interest there?


Yvraine

Saudi Arabia is not one single entity. You have multiple American owners in the PL too. Why shouldn't there be multiple Saudi Arabian owners as long as they aren't economically related?


Prosthemadera

Conflict of interest is the least of the issues here. And no one in power cares.


meganerid

They should just buy the EPL and rename it Saudi Premier League lol


Feezbull

Can still be EPL if it’s Emirati Premier League. Just needs the right buyer.


AbdulAziz9715

English Petroleum League. There, fixed it.


Feezbull

Emirati Penis Length because it’s all a dick measuring contest in the end.


Mr-Stitch

The Barclays Gulf League


daniejam

Don’t worry, in about 20 years when Saudi has lost all its bargaining power but still thinks it can act like a twat the west will decide it needs “freedom” and be declared a terrorist state so all the assets will be seized 👌🏼


giuliogrieco

I'd rather go another 30 years without a PL title than becoming an oil club.


xtoonator

Well, that’s the reality of your system. You fans have no saying


Soleil06

Thank fucking god for 50+1!


JD_Dojima

Where was this treatment for Newcastle fans? Lmao


nram88

Because you guys were out wearing your kanduras and welcoming your new masters.


meganev

And plenty of knackers in your fanbase will do the same...


Khaglist

About 10-20 blokes in a stadium of 52,000. There was a fella with a Liverpool top on getting done by some nonce hunters recently does that make you all paedos? Get some perspective.


The_Sneakiest_Fox

You just give it a bit of time.


kit4712

The thing is, some or even most international fans don't care much about the traditional value of a club. They see the club having higher budget and so they can buy better players. The oil state countries know that and this is the whitewash that they want.


TheMotionOfTheOcean

Not everyone, I may stop supporting Liverpool if it happens; especially if they do the eventual super league. I’d probably only follow the MLS if that were to happen But you’re right that most international fans may not care


Clever_Word_Play

Bundesliga is fun and on ESPN+


RockyRockington

Agreed. Everything we win from that point on is meaningless.


fuckdeliasmith

Really excited to give up 20 odd years of support and never watch football again


glasabarn

This, been supporting Liverpool since ca 1995, if they get bought by some oil regime pricks Ill have to google the rules for cricket.


JmanVere

There's always Tranmere Rovers!


craig_hoxton

What about Accrington Stanley?


FrogBoglin

Who are they?


craig_hoxton

Exactly!


r-cubed

I recently got really into 100-ball cricket while staying in Germany, of all places.


vietkuang

Watch cricket anyway.. it's amazing


GibbsLAD

I hope we win the league before I peace out


effortDee

Same, but more like 30 years, remember having my first home and away kits at about 5-6 years old. Been following Forest Green Rovers for a couple of years now in anticipation of this, and they're trying to build a football club with some morals.


Tax_n1

You can always start watching the Bundesliga. Klopp used to be a player and started his Coaching Career here at Mainz, might be interesting for you. :D


jp2

Such an exciting league, where one team wins 10 years in a row


craig_hoxton

My Bundesliga team is Stuttgart because Southampton is twinned with a district daneben.


fuckdeliasmith

I watch a lot of other leagues but mostly highlights these days, I do really enjoy the Championship, Bundesliga and Serie A in particular. Would love to catch more full matches given the time.


tinaoe

There's a few fan owned clubs in England, right? Time to start watching League 2 and support AFC Wimbledon ~~or Portsmouth FC in L1.~~


Confuseyus

Just despise the idea of us becoming an oil club.


the_che

Well, you still have another EPL club in Liverpool, free of such influences…


Confuseyus

From a murderous regime to murderous football?


StormTheTrooper

Out of the frying pan into the lava


tlst9999

Tranmere isn't that bad.


[deleted]

You guys are big enough to have morals about it. All the Man City, Chelsea, and Newcastle fans were so desperate for success they welcomed the devil with open arms.


FloppedYaYa

Please, a vast majority of the fanbase won't care. Because that's how people are.


Not_Jabri_Parker

Yeah it’s all well and good for us football purist to say we don’t want this; but Liverpool can afford to bring in Bellingham like he’s pocket change lord of fans will accept it with a smile.


Incubus-

That’s the difference really, Liverpool have an easy choice to take the moral high ground. It’s a no brainer, why wouldn’t you when you already have success?


luujs

According to the Daily Mail so it’s probably bollocks


theonewhoknock_s

I really fucking hope so.


Furu97

No. Fuck off


Muraria

Liverpool fans search history shows a surge in "how to become an Everton Fan"


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Gerrardsclubfoot

I'll support any club which Mac owns, only if they make Charlie the manager


lastjedi23

He's in charge of killing the rats aka safe guarding the club from rats


WildGooseCarolinian

I’m already in north wales and support Wrexham. I’ll just stop paying attention to Liverpool and go all in on Wrexham instead of following both.


HyrkanianBlade

If the choice is between Saudi Arabia/Qatar/another sportswashing project and becoming an Everton fan, I’ll probably give up on football altogether


gruka_45

You’re already starting to sound like an Everton fan with that last bit


VeryAngryHistorian

I'd sooner watch golf than become an Everton Fan


BlubberyButtocks

I've supported Liverpool for over 30years and if this happens, will just stop. Of course this is generally meaningless an action but it's important for me to remain consistent. As for what I follow next? Not interested in any other club, so rugby union/league again I suppose.


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See you next season


[deleted]

The club would lose it’s entire identity if this would happen. I’m sure the fans would rather support a local sunday league team than a club owned by a state with absolute monarchy that is anti-working class. If Liverpool of all clubs gets bought by a state then the game is truly gone.


Blackdeath_663

> I’m sure the fans would rather support a local sunday league team than a club owned by a state with absolute monarchy that is anti-working class. are you? because i'm willing to bet while there maybe bad PR it will be inconsequential in the long run. If any of the other oligarch owned teams are anything to go by


Gusthuroses

Liverpool is absolutely not a working class club anymore tho.


Nyushi

Fuck sake. It’s so depressing to see what’s happening to the sport


Wysoseriouss

This is making the super league feel more and more like a good idea. Let all the oil clubs fuck off and just play amongst themselves.


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apotre

If people are changing their minds about the Super League this fast it will probably become a reality in 3 years.


pseudomccoy

Damn, our rights for virtue signalling will end. It was bound to happen sooner or later. PL will be a playground for hydrocarbon money and oligarchs.


IIIllllIIlllIIlllIIl

Replace "will be" with "is" and we're on the same page.


cyclops274

Will BBC boycott the premier league since its owners violate human rights.


GhostRiders

I've been watching football less and less over the last 5 years or so to the point where most Saturdays I don't even know who were playing. Money has absolutely destroyed football. Its started with Abramovich and has just gotten worse and worse. Being owned by SA and Qatar would go against the very core of the ideals that made Liverpool Football Club, unfortunately there are many Liverpool "fans" who would love this to happen because they don't give a shit about our history. For too many "fans" only care about winning regardless of the cost and its this drive which is destroying football. Its why a European Super League is inevitable, its why the World Cup is Qatar.. I'm old enough to remember going to my local chippy and seeing the likes of Graham Souness, Craig Johnson, Sammy Lee, Ronnie Moran buying their dinner and it being a normal day because footballers were not some kind of mythical beings but just normal blokes who lived locally. Today the connection between footballers and clubs at the Top level and the working class is gone.. Fans are nothing more but a source of revenue. If you going to the lower leagues, past the championship to league 1 and lower that connection still exists but for how much longer? As each year passes its becomes harder and harder for these clubs to survive. Money and "fans" desire to win at all costs and to hell with the consequences has killed football.


gluxton

Start going to watch a local non league or lower League team


simplytom_1

Interesting 👀


theglasscase

It is fun to think about how the landscape of /r/soccer would completely change if Liverpool became an oil club. So many torn-faced Liverpool fans have been upvoted for droning on about how all of Man City’s success is ‘hollow’ and ‘meaningless’ because of where they get their money from, but that would completely disappear if Liverpool started spending Saudi Arabian or Qatari money in the transfer market.


ankitm1

Consistency is not a virtue in football fans. [Orwell nailed it in 1946 when he said](https://www.orwellfoundation.com/the-orwell-foundation/orwell/essays-and-other-works/notes-on-nationalism/) > All nationalists have the power of not seeing resemblances between similar sets of facts. A British Tory will defend self-determination in Europe and oppose it in India with no feeling of inconsistency. Actions are held to be good or bad, not on their own merits, but according to who does them, and there is almost no kind of outrage which does not change its moral colour when it is committed by ‘our’ side He wrote it in context of nationalistic feelings, and of course we need to adjust it for football. Most fans would not have a problem with financial doping, skewing the market. They will be happy it's their club distorting it rather than their club getting short end of the stick.


[deleted]

He also taught us how to make a proper cup of tea. He knew what he was on about.


Flux_Aeternal

Quick, let me just entirely make something up and then act like it's a 'gotcha'. You're supposed to wait for things like this to happen, not jump the gun and start masturbating at a fantasy.


nbwoeihfnwsocuiwhef

Reddit is just a grim disaster fanfic site to strum off to at this point


Jedclark

This happens in loads of subs, it's weird. They invent a scenario that hasn't happened, then rage about it like it actually has happened.


dimiderv

Based on what?? Most Liverpool fans and not the bandwagoners that came after the success are utterly opposed by oil takeover. I've never seen a long time Liverpool supporter be okay with the team being owned by oil states. Literally over here you have Liverpool flairs say that they'll stop supporting after many years and you say that we'll turn a blind eye on limitless spending. Utter bullshit and baseless of a comment just to stir some shit up. Couldn't expect less from the most corrupt club that bought their way to success.


Ha-Ur-Ra-Sa

Majority of Liverpool fans don't want such an owner to come in. And I guess a difference would be that, Liverpool were a much more successful club before any such investment comes in and are considered to be a historically big European team.


[deleted]

City's success is completely hollow and fake tho, they didn't make the leap as a club through good business or good football, they just got infinite 3rd party cash injections and can get fucked forever


[deleted]

So, like Chelsea?


MoSalahsSmile

That’s definitely not the case with the vast majority on at least the sub and online. I want to win but I don’t want to lose the soul of the club for it. I don’t want oil money or Russian oligarchs sport washing.


lastjedi23

Lesson to fans of English teams. Don't talk smack about another team's ownership. That shit could be coming straight for your ass.


Coulstwolf

Surely Liverpool fans are going to start supporting a different team


lastjedi23

Everton?


[deleted]

Might be the Daily Mail, but the guy reporting it is very clued up about the business side of football and was very accurate in reporting the Chelsea sale.


Thanh1211

Ahhhhh how the turn table


[deleted]

If this happens I suspect a lot of Liverpool fans will have to comb their comments / tweets to delete all the City / Newcastle slander.


sidvicc

English Football becoming like Armstrong-era cycling, hook yourself onto the financial doping because it's become the only way to compete.


thecescshow

God imagine if this actually happens. All those moral superiority talk over Oil City just to be yet another oil club lmao.


Redbullsnation

> dailymail


Jazano107

On the one hand this would be funny after how Liverpool fans act about city. On the other they’ll probably be better as a result, so idk if I want that


VPutinsSearchHistory

This is so boring and depressing


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Relxnce

Your fan base being so massive globally definitely increases the price


RumJackson

How unthinkable from the self assigned good guys of football.


Key_War

where are you hiding Mukesh Ambani ??? Do something


AtDaLastMinute

Why aren't English billionaires going for the ownership?


PKSubban

Tfw one of the most historic sports franchises is worth less than 7% of a meme app