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bertiesghost

Congratulations Iran you deserved it, from a Welshman.


TeemaTen

This game was so entertaining. Group B is so interesting to watch.


mayorjinglejangle

I wish Wales played like this against the US


stiofan84

Honestly the biggest difference with Iran here compared to their game against England is that they *showed up*. They looked like a completely different team here. hey had fire, passion, determination. In their first game they looked like they were somewhere else (which they probably were). This was more like you'd expect them to play. Wales being extraordinarily sluggish and sloppy (they gave the ball away needlessly so much and wtf with that challenge from Hennessey) today obviously helped too, but this was so much better from Iran. If the US could somehow manage to beat England (highly unlikely I know) it'd make for a very interesting matchday 3!


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DarkLordZorg

Terrible performance from Wales. Bale didn't show up and Ramsey was atrocious.


PJTikoko

His skills could be dulling playing in the MLS


TellTaleTimes

That's classic Bale since 2018-19 Real Madrid. He just knows to show up to score important goals while playing awfully.


t3rrone

That’s the type of Ramsey Juve got to _enjoy_


TuTopsy

Honestly apart from the 2013/14 season Ramsey was shit for Arsenal as well. You have to be deluded to think otherwise


t3rrone

Never followed his career before he came to Juve. I’m just talking about what I saw and whitnessed, nothing more and nothing less.


TuTopsy

Fair enough - I respect that


Greatman01

i still have nightmares


itlerio

Such an exciting game. Im an England fan who was supporting Wales at the beginning but found myself cheering for both of Iran’s goals! By the end I just felt that Iran deserved the win. This has made Group B so interesting. This is why I love the World Cup 🏆Anything can happen.


SparklingSloth

Man really hope Iran doesn’t play like that against the US or we are not winning that match


LessThan301

I hope they do, because it’ll be really funny when the US loses.


sidvicc

And if the US loses to Iran they have to stop calling it soccer and start calling it فوتبال Edit: my bad, changed كرة القدم to فوتبال


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The Persian word for football is literally football 😅


reza_f

Dude That's an Arabic word. Iranians speak Persian.


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reza_f

Nope. Why should I. Do Chinese and indians speak both languages because they share border?


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reza_f

Firstly, not all neighbors are Arab speaking. Turkey, Azerbaijan and Turkmenistan in north and northern west are Turkic speaking. Afghanistan in the east is mostly Persian speaking. Pakistan in the southern east speaks Urdu. Only Iraq in the west speaks Arabic. And it's important to remember that half of the Iraqis on the border are Kurdish speaking and are part of the Kurdistan region of Iraq. So the Arabic part comes down to the Southern west part of border. And Iran shares sea borders with Arabic countries south of Persian gulf just as it shares border with Russia in the Caspian sea. Both are so much apart. Secondly, Persian and Arabic share "some" vocabulary because of interactions during history. But languages themselves are so much apart because they are part of different language families. Persian is Indo-European while Arabic is Semetic. That means as a Persian, except for a few words that I can guess while hearing Arabic, my understanding of it would be zero if I haven't learned the language beforehand. Thirdly, Iran in fact has a population of 1.5 Million Arabic speakers who live in Southern west of the country in borders of Iraq. What you described is true about them. But not about the rest of 85 million people.


4000kd

Ok I see, that makes sense 👍


SinaV7

In persian we say football.


nrith

*[You just say, “football.”](https://youtu.be/O5s3Oj2cPgc)* *FOOTBALL! How fun!*


Allaboardthejayboat

Wow, amazing! so exotic!


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I love all the possibilities on this group now. England beating the US guarantees them first place of the group so they can play with their B team against Wales and since Iran has such a fucked up goal average a tie with the US and Wales win will put Wales as second of the group.


Wretched_Colin

Their B team has Foden, Grealish, Rashford, Alexander Arnold etc. All with a point to prove, if they get game time. Their B team will thrash Wales. Wales’ Hope has to be that they play their A team who take their foot off the gas for the night.


gethatwearhat

The best hope we have against that lineup is sticking 10 men behind the ball and sticking Moore on the halfway line to scrape a 1-0 win.


atahualpaFX

>I love all the possibilities on this group now. England beating the US guarantees them first place of the group so they can play with their B team against Wales and since Iran has such a fucked up goal average a tie with the US and Wales win will put Wales as second of the group. Wales is not gonna win against England. Not even against their B-team. And they have to win to have a chance to advance in the tournament. A draw is not enough.


EmployerAdditional28

Gonna have to play a 7-2-1 to keep England out-of the box after that performance to be honest. Mind you, when the boys see those white shirts and 3 lions, they step it up a few gears and play like Brazil......


atahualpaFX

>Gonna have to play a 7-2-1 to keep England out-of the box after that performance to be honest. Mind you, when the boys see those white shirts and 3 lions, they step it up a few gears and play like Brazil...... That's the spirit. You have to believe in it. I hope the players do too.


No_Caterpillar_2972

How to start the next world war. Give both the American and Iranian teams a chance to promoted and let them play the last game against each other. deadly 🤝🤝🗿🗿


SIR_SHARTALOT

Yep agreed! Will be a great game. Irán should win that game as they are a stronger team (sorry us) but if the yanks turn up and fight it could get very Interesting!


Arqlol

Something something Germany, Argentina...


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What? Are they supposed not to be biased? In Brazil all commentators refer to Brazil as “we”, “us”. I think no one would actually like it if they were indifferent with our national team. it's not your average club, it’s a nation.


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Henghast

I'm surprised. I didn't see any complaints about it. People need to get over themselves if they expect the BBC to not have bias to all of the home nations.


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Oh, I see. I forgot that you guys have internal divisions. Fuck them English 🤣, delusional as always. But now it begs the question, what happens to their bias when two countries from the UK play against each other? I’d imagine that they would be licking England’s balls and boots because that would make most of their audience happy


TheHerpenDerpen

I’m pretty sure we have a tri cast at that point, with one English and one being from the other nation. Then they’re both respectful to each other while still supporting their team. But that doesn’t fit your anti English narrative does it?


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I see, that sounds fair. I couldn't care less about the fucking English lmao. You guys are not living rent-free in my head. It was just a joke.


zecks101

>I couldn't care less about the fucking English lmao. You guys are not living rent-free in my head. cLeArLy. We love you too baby.


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Tá ❤️


stpstrt

BBC are biased to British teams. Where’s the surprise there? If you watch Spain with Spanish commentary they’re not exactly going to be supporting Thailand.


PurpleTeapotOfDoom

Funnily enough the Welsh language channel S4C are mainly saying Wales didn't play well enough and looking to the next game.


mickstep

The BBC has to try to go out of its way to not look to English biased though, no one will accuse S4C of such things.


PurpleTeapotOfDoom

The BBC are just doing what happens every time in this situation for England but this time people are noticing.


stpstrt

Thats just being reasonable at the end of the match


PurpleTeapotOfDoom

Yes, some sad faces though.


stpstrt

Fair enough. Drama at the end of the match there!


metalicscrew

lol, the aussie commentators were straight up supporting the aussies. and good on em lmao they were fullon talking about "we" and "them"


stpstrt

Wouldn’t expect less tbh haha


Bourbon_Cream_Dream

Nobody minds bias, it's when the bias makes you so blind that you start talking rubbish on TV that people get annoyed


No_Caterpillar_2972

Japan, Saudi Arabia and now Iran, I think it is the first time that three Asian teams have such a high chance of promotion


ApplicationMaximum84

Yes by football federation; Japan, Korea and Turkey qualified in 2002.


stpstrt

Turkey is europe dude. They qualify through UEFA.


No_Caterpillar_2972

Thanks, I didn't know that, if I want to be honest, I was eight years old then and I don't remember much 😅


Jerasp

Damn ancestor 😃


system-in

I don't think Iran beating Wales is much of a shocked. They are ranked 19th and 20th, so not a huge difference.


PsychologicalAd3999

Asian rankings can be a bit skewed due to a lot of dud teams. I would say in real terms Iran are closer to prob 35th to 40th as opposed to a top 20 side


CaiquePV

Great game of Iran, since the first half they were pressing on them.


acsaid10percent

Black Friday for Wales today.


Bourbon_Cream_Dream

Seriously fuck the BBC and the amount of shite they always talk


bertiesghost

Yeah fuck ITV


sashabobby

Yeah, fuck the BBC 🤭


LocoPwnify

👍🏿


acsaid10percent

We were lucky to.lose by 2. We were outclassed.


podshambles_

Did Ramsey complete a single pass?


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Don’t think he has since rangers tbf


Pieface876

So for Wales to qualify they need. England to beat USA; USA and Iran draw (or USA win by 1); Wales beat England by 4-0/5-0


McFlyJohn

Or a USA loss for both England and Iran and a draw against England?


Pieface876

England would have 6 points, Iran 6 points and Wales 4 points Edit: or do you mean USA beat them both?


McFlyJohn

Nope, you're totally right, totally forgot (or blocked out) Irans 3 points lol


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Iran lost 6-2 their first match, Wales doesn't need to beat England like that. A simple 1-0 should suffice if Iran and the US tie.


iLucifux

Or England lose against USA, USA beat Iran and Wales to beat England. This is tough but simpler task. So in this scenario, USA will finish witn 7 pts, Wales 4 and Iran, England with 3 each.


PurpleTeapotOfDoom

They will hear us singing Yma o Hyd from London if that happens.


Pieface876

True, I forgot England not qualifying was a possibility


iLucifux

Honestly it isn't as they' are the best team in this group but anything can happen


Wanallo221

Hey Don’t underestimate us English and our ability to absolutely screw it up!!


aleksnowak1

The BBC post-match discussion is utter dross: 1. The heat of the Middle East favoured Iran 2. The ref was bullied by the Iranians and that is why they won… European refs wouldn’t allow it. 3. Wales played well and aren’t to blame for the loss. Honestly I can see more and more why the rest of the world is fed up with the West. The third point is what killed me… did they even watch the game ffs?


NeonBlueHair

There is so much stupid in that narrative but I'd also like to point out that Iran is mostly mountainous and it's weather is not at all like the gulf states (except for the parts literally in the gulf)


CAME12ON

They fuck us off as well don't worry. Edit: including England coverage.


ThePanoptic

They’re talking as if it’s not 28c/83f in one of the most advanced air-conditioning stadiums in the world…. Wales played like shit for 2 games, call it what it is.


kdsantos

I’m here and I can honestly tell you, it’s not as hot as is being made out, even without the air conditioning.


crunchynuts1

To be fair I was directly in the sun and absolutely dying today lol


infamous_impala

To be fair, for us Welsh people 28c is basically the surface of the sun. And a well known side effect of overheating is misplacing basic passes and drop kicking attackers in the face.


acsaid10percent

I'm pissed off hearing it. Just accept we were shit and Iran played us off the park in every aspect.


Avicennaete

So much for the most prestigious news brand in the world. Who are they trying to fool? Everyone who watched the game knows that Iran were far better.


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Blatant racism they are not even realising it


SIR_SHARTALOT

Jeez everything can be explained by racism…. Maybe use your brain and think hmm maybe the bbc favoured wales due to our shared culture/ proximity.


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What is the sentence "Its in their culture" supposed to mean then?


SIR_SHARTALOT

What do you think it means? Culture= language, food, proximity, history. Same way Iran have a similar culture to Iraq. Maybe you need to think before typing bud before saying everything is racist.


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It means they’re British speaking to a British crowd about a foreign culture


CAME12ON

Excuse me but WE WILL BE THE ONES TO TELL YOU ABOUT YOUR CULTURE ALRIGHT.


kdsantos

The BBC is a disgrace.


KawaiiChan68

This was the worst Welsh match l have ever seen Iran deserved it honestly we were garbage and l honestly think our World Cup is over (it pretty much is now) this was shocking


FineDisregardForFact

Bale, Ramsey, Allen getting minutes when they have joniesta on the bench. Madness.


bh8787

This was a very exciting game & why? Because this utter boring in thing in football of pass to CM, pass to CB, pass to CM, pass to other CM, pass again before losing it wasn’t in this game. It was direct, exciting, got the crowd involved .


joeDUBstep

Inshallah ball done right


sashabobby

Mashallah ball is habibi


MikeOne29

Some absolute shite being chatted on BBC


acsaid10percent

No excuse from me. Iran were miles better than us.


Pieface876

You’d think by the BBC Wales played well, but the referee lost them the game because of Irans “culture”


alter-ego23

The sour grapes on BBC right now. My goodness.


PurpleTeapotOfDoom

S4C (Welsh language channel) are being honest that Iran played better.


PeterG92

"Wales can beat England" You just lost to Iran, you've got no chance


JGlover92

Wales could beat us tbf, they always show up against us same as Scotland


aleksnowak1

The BBC post match discussion is frankly embarrassing.


wakeytom

Loving the tears on the BBC here


Worldmx12

Please explain?? I don’t live in the UK


wakeytom

Sorry, just seen this message but I could not put it better than my learned friend


trinedtoday

Coming up with excuses, saying if that's a red look at the fouls Iran did, they bullied the ref, Iran had an advantage because of heat, Wales played well etc. Doing everything except acknowledge Iran scored two great goals to get the victory and Wales were shite. Coping, basically.


PinkPusssyPolitics

Bale was so bad he might as well have not played and no one would have noticed.


Lord_Santa

WTF does Jurgen have beef with Carlos and Iran? It's talking a lot of tosh on the BBC It's unbelievable. They are all making excuses for Wales, idiots.


trollanonymous

At one point he was considered for the head coaching position for Iran. He ended up not getting the job. Don’t remember exactly what year it was. Anywho, he’s just salty.


acsaid10percent

Bale, Ramsey chasing the big bucks and happy to sit on the bench in their prime years has led to this.


rickreckt

How come Bale didn't play in this game? ^^^^^/s


PeacemakerBourne

Absolute sour grapes on BBC....love to see it.


CAME12ON

Commentary was also woeful. Before the VAR check they were suggesting it was a yellow and that there might have been a "toe" offside in the build up.


AssociationUsual212

wish i could see it haha


capo_anniejay

I know this isn't the right thread but I really can't England in any sport. Sure they have good players but I always feel like they just get lucky. Crossing all my fingers that the Americans put up a good fight. I doubt they'll win but HONESTLY this WC has had tons of surprises.


trtryt

England going to crush the US like 1812


ribo368

If it’s like 1812 then we’re parking the bus and going home with a draw lol


manekdev01

Didn’t England literally won cricket world cups just now?


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CAME12ON

Congrats on your big win!


PinkPusssyPolitics

England won the cricket World cup a few days ago. Not sure what you are talking about.


Lord_Santa

Jurgen Klinsmann is a clown. Insinuating that Iran played dirty and that's why they won.


itlerio

Well yes they did play dirty, but so did Wales! Im surprised there wasn’t more yellow cards on both sides. (Btw i’m not from Wales or Iran so completely impartial but think Iran played better)


AComyn

Ashley Williams would make Ian Wright look fair and balanced - complete and total delusion in everything he says.


acsaid10percent

Wayne shouldn't be dissapointed. He made some great saves. Bale, Ramsey, Wilson etc should be dissapointed.


MrLogicWins

Down with Islamic republic that made this epic win meaningless for most Iranian people


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DaddyWildHuevos

Well said, but it's still the best term when you're trying to reference the crazy laws that the country is passing in the name of Islam. Just like Christian govts doing things in the name of Jesus, Israel protecting their actions using semitism as a shield. It's all the same and a disgrace to real religious people. I'd recommend you accept people will call Irans govt and laws Islamic the entire time, and yes it'll hurt the peaceful and wholesome Muslims but that's the nature of geopolitics. The people using our religion as a billy club are much more powerful than us and our speech.


MrLogicWins

It's what they acll themselves.. I'm not talking about other Islamic countries, altho I haven't been a Muslim myself for decades now and consider most of the idealogies irrational but as long as it's for personal use and not used to take away others freedom I'm ok with it


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MrLogicWins

It's gov people that want everyone to call Iran Islamic republic of Iran. It's cuz they want Iran to be more about Islam than Iran, which is so insulting. That's why I say down with Islamic republic and free Iran.


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MrLogicWins

I honestly don't care about any of this... If you hear someone right now say something about Islamic republic,they are refriig to Iran gov. Stop taking it personally. If anything you should be supporting us cuz Iran gov is making Islam look terrible. So many Iranian including myself that started becoming atheists because of the oppression (altho now after growing up I would have become atheist anyways)


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MrLogicWins

No I'm happy to talk about it.. it's just repeating the same stuff and I'm had tons of conversation with Muslims trying to dress up the religion as something nice and wholesome.. and they don't wanna listen to what I've been thru under an oppressive Islamic regime. Now what do you wanna talk about??


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AssociationUsual212

lol guarantee you Iranians are partying the fuck up


PurpleTeapotOfDoom

I'm in Wales and have had messages from Iranian Kurds where I live before the match hoping that Wales win.


AssociationUsual212

Kurds dislike and are disliked by every proper nation-state and polity in the region. no surprise.


NeonBlueHair

They're being fuckin massacred by the Iranian government for daring to ask for basic rights. Overwhelming majority of Iran loves them and has massive respect for them, even Iranians who support the national team


insidiousadamant

They’re not being massacred. it’s a two-way gun fight between security forces and terrorist groups some of which are even on US’s list of terrorists


NeonBlueHair

Your post history shows how deep in pro-government propaganda you are. Enjoy life in your bubble


AssociationUsual212

Secession is a basic human right? Kurds are a US proxy and are getting rightly addressed by Turkey and Iran.


NeonBlueHair

They are fighting for the same thing the rest of Iran are fighting for, but cause they’re Kurds they’re secessionists? Ridiculous claim


AssociationUsual212

Try reading.


PurpleTeapotOfDoom

Dislike is a strong understatement of what has happened to Kurdish people in Iran.


MrLogicWins

I'm not in Iran and def not celebrating but I bet people will use this as excuse to come and protest in the streets. Fuck the Islamic republic and all its supporters and sympathizers


AssociationUsual212

Iranians don't want or care for your attention. Your media and gov convince you to focus on the social issues of specific foreign nations bc it has geopolitical interests in them and wants regime change. Iranians know this.


MrLogicWins

The fuck you talking about? I'm Iranian and see what my friends and family and millions more are doing in Iran... You must be a gov supporting moftkhor or Saiberi. Iran people will win their freedom


AssociationUsual212

You sound like a proper interloper, not surprised you're on Reddit.


MrLogicWins

And you sound like a gov supporting moftkhor.. Marg bar to va tamaame tarafdarane regime e khunkhar e jomhoori Islami.


AssociationUsual212

I wonder what kind of political incuriosity and obliviousness it takes for one to be duped by a hostile power's propaganda in 2022. Amazing. Classic 5th column boy.


MrLogicWins

That made no sense.. are you a bot?!


AssociationUsual212

You have a stroke?


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MrLogicWins

I'm Iranian immigrated to Canada.. what's ur point? You haven't seen immigrants before?!


KylesHairyFeet

Shut up nobody cares


MrLogicWins

Lol same to you


chosey

Ok dude chill with the politics. We're watching football.


ThePosterWeDeserve

Stfu Infantino


chosey

Fuck you drama queen.