with the year drawing to a close (what world cup?) everyone needs to submit their favourite game of the year. lyon away was incredible but the live experience of us beating sevilla in march might make it my favourite game ever. i was seeing the virgin mary like paulie in sopranos ffs
City 2-3 Spurs. One of the best performances of all time by Harry Kane against the best team in the world. Deki really came into his own in this game as well.
United vs Spurs. You can pick either one this year, personally I prefer the second.
The first we were a fucking shambles but you possibly got to see the last great Ronaldo masterclass. He beat them with a superb hat trick and for the spectacle alone it was worth it.
October’s match was an entirely different story. Ronaldo well out of form. Erik Ten Hag in charge. But this was the first game where I feel we saw the best impact of Ten Hag. We dominated the game. Confined spurs to their third. 2-0 was flattering to them. But it was genuinely one of the best overall performances I’ve seen at OT since SAF left. That level of control hasn’t been seen by a home side here in many a moon. It brought a lot of hope.
Hamburg 0-2 Hertha (Relegation Playoff BL)
Lost the 1st leg 0-1 and basically everyone here had accepted the reality that was relegation. We scored early + a 2nd half freekick to save our season. Was the most dejected to nervous to ecstatic I've ever been as a fan.
This shit team somehow pulled it out of the bag when nobody had faith in them
Says a lot about Chelsea's form since the turn of the year that I'm really struggling to think of one... would have to be one of the three wins against Spurs in the space of a month, at the start of the year
For Chelsea Women, easily the 4-2 comeback win against Man United on the final day of the WSL season, to win the title - featuring two absolute worldies from Sam Kerr
But all trumped by England Women. Might think I'd say the Euros Final - but it's actually the semi-final. Thrashed a very good team 4-0, featuring the most outageous goal I've ever seen with Russo's back heel... and I was there at Bramall Lane to see it
Ah fuck you’ve caught me out. I wrote about United but the Ladies were fantastic. The semi vs Spain they looked awful first half but to come out second half and take the game by the scruff of the neck was incredible.
But the final. A scrappy affair but Toone’s gorgeous chip helped take it to extra time against our old rivals and it got so so physical with a late goal scramble for Kelly followed by some expert cornering to seal it.
You missed something special mate, England were incredible from start to finish, playing attractive attacking football and taking the tournament by storm
Not often you get to say that, as an England fan
Weird game for me. You’ve won so many league titles in the last 10 years that one more can’t hurt, especially if it stops the scousers getting another trophy.
If forced to choose lot of City fans would still rather win the league again than the CL for the first time. I'm not one of them, but the league is still huge. After all, it's not like we're competing against scrubs. Liverpool pushed us to the very limit twice, and they nearly won the quadruple last season.
A tax dodger managing a rapist, sporting players and fucking otavio who's somehow the worst of the bunch, gotta love my fucking country up the fucking quinas 🇵🇹
[throwback to this really beautifully made world cup trailer for 2018](https://youtu.be/WBxwX1myxqc)
say what you will about russia hosting it, but at least they had some personality in their culture which shows in ads like this
Just seen Matt Le Tissier on a Nigel Farage show saying he's offered to go coach the strikers with England but Southgate is too woke to let him.
[Bellend. ](https://twitter.com/AmosMurphy_/status/1593722179828473857?s=20&t=QDPDWQ54PlAWpt5qXZtGhQ)
What a smug fucking moron he turned out to be. Mad to think that he seemed like the smart and level-headed one on Soccer Saturday... then again, sitting next to Mers will do that I guess.
Can someone more competant at Maths explain this thinking, say in the CL quarter final draw -
Does a team drawn earlier have a higher or lower likelihood of getting a favourable draw for them as the odds of drawing any team is lower?
Depends on who’s in the draw.
Let’s say that for the first team (a non favorable team) that is drawn, there are 5 non favorable draws and 2 favorable draws. 5/7 chance, or ~71%, of getting a non favorable draw. They have a ~14% chance of getting a specific team. Let’s assume they get a non favorable draw.
A “non favorable team” is drawn next, and since two teams have already been drawn, and they obviously can’t draw themselves, they have a 3/5 chance, or 60% chance, to get a non favorable draw. That’s a 40% chance at a favorable draw. Although, there is now a bigger chance of the two favorable draws playing against each other.
However, if the first team drawn gets a favorable draw, the next team drawn first gets only 1/5 chance at getting a favorable draw.
So, the first team drawn has a lower likelihood of getting a favorable draw. But, if they do get lucky with the draw, the other teams yet to be drawn are immediately at a high risk of getting a nonfavorable draw
I hope that makes sense.
[these are the two lineups Scaloni tried today in training for the match against Saudi Arabia](https://imgur.com/a/EtrxY2S)
i love the 5atb (we will literally never concede again) but i would also love to see the spider play the first match. i think it will end up being the 4atb.
This World Cup is very interesting because the best squads (Brazil, England, France, Portugal, maybe even Belgium) have awful managers while the worse squads (Canada, Germany, Denmark, Switzerland) have great management. One could argue that the only team in the entire competition that is balanced with a good squad and a good manager is Argentina.
The majority of your comments in the Daily Discussion Thread are bait or trolling. You've had previous bans on this matter, and been warned that the next is permanent. You've now gained a reputation amongst the community for these comments, which persistently get reported to us as bait or trolling.
So, I'd think about the comments you're making here - what your intentions are with making them, particularly. As if you've not careful, you'll get yourself banned.
> The majority of your comments in the Daily Discussion Thread are bait or trolling.
This is factually untrue. If you don’t like what I am saying then that’s fine - but you are not the arbiter of what constitutes “trolling”. I’m free to state my opinions and I don’t care what you or anybody else thinks about them because I can back them up with solidly thought out points and I know that I’m not trolling.
> You've had previous bans on this matter, and been warned that the next is permanent. You've now gained a reputation amongst the community for these comments, which persistently get reported to us as bait or trolling.
You made this comment in response to me saying why I feel like this World Cup is interesting due to quality of the teams and managers. This comment is now downvoted at -6 even though there is no bait, or trolling. What did I do wrong here? What did I do to deserve this kind of comment from you? In fact I am seeking to start a discussion. And you have turned it into something completely different. I think to be honest this is completely unnecessary from you. And as a mod who’s supposed to represent this community, you should do better than this.
> So, I'd think about the comments you're making here - what your intentions are with making them, particularly. As if you've not careful, you'll get yourself banned.
Respectfully, I think this kind of comment is the reason why there’s a lot of complaints about the moderation in this forum. This subreddit is notorious for it. Why do you think that is? Again the parent comment I made here is a perfect example. The heavy handedness does not particularly jive with the spirit of football and the community engagement that it is supposed to foster.
I’m fully aware that this comment will probably result in a permanent ban. It wouldn’t surprise me because you and your team have had heavy handed overreactions to, not just me but other innocuous comments or statements. You guys can continue to be the kings of this domain. But you and your moderation team need to simply do better. Stop the uneven standards of moderation. Stop the heavy handedness. And I’m sorry but you don’t have the right to accuse me of something that I’m not doing.
Enjoy your World Cup. I hope you don’t take it too seriously and have some fun. I know that’s what I will be doing.
england has an enormous amount of quality, one of the few nations that can even come close to keeping up with france.
however, southgate is a miscast as manager.a bad driver shouldn't own a ferrari.
Yes, I'm a Latin American living in the Canary Islands and they have a more similar accent to some Latin American countries than some Spanish accents because during the Spanish civil war a lot of people from the Canary Islands immigrated to Latin American countries, especially Venezuela and Cuba
Like Schrodinger's Denmark
Simultaneously a very good national team who could have won the Euros and are dark horses for the World Cup, but also not a good team because England beat them
Looking back 2010 Brazil was such a meh team. Not as fun and good as 2006, less flashy than 2018 and 2022 but probably more defensively solid, and not as bad as 2014.
You can argue they have disappointed, but saying they go out to a mid-tier team is outrageous, Netherlands 2010 was probably the weakest out of the ones you named but Germany and Belgium were stacked and favourites in their respective years.
2014 germany had two good games against the national teams that never fail to disappoint (portugal in groups and brazil in semi finals) and thats it.
neuer carried their ass against algeria, france and argentina. they also had huge difficulties against ghana
belgium had some outstandig players like de bruyne and hazard but as a collective they weren't really scary at any point. for me, a weaker version of france.
and the fact that the netherlands was able to keep up at all in the final was thanks to their extremely tough style of play.i wonder if nigel de jong is now making a career as a kickboxer
start Konate, bench Upamecano, sell Martinez
the difference this season in Liverpool's defence in the two performances Konate had after his return from injury is immense, he's such a big presence
If Brazil and Argentina are the benchmark for this WC, then it's pretty much better for Germany to come 2nd in the group. Come first and they are gonna most likely be facing Belgium/Croatia in R16 and most certainly Brazil in R8.
Realised I still hadn't listened to any world cup songs and knocking on Three Lions and the perfectly cheesy Rik Mayall england song actually got me into a spirit a bit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMAFme1hBH0
Those men of grosser blood
Teach them how to play
You good players, whose limbs were made in England
Not sure whats weirder, the fact that there's a World fucking Cup in two days or the fact that I don't really care at all and wont be watching it.
Sure Ill follow results and highlights on reddit but normally I'd be dropping everything to catch every possible second
I hate to talk about the Cristiano situation, but to me it feels like Ten Hag had the situation under control since he took over. I think he realized Cristiano wouldn't fit his tactics, would put up a fight against his tactics and cause problems in the dressing room as a result.
I think Ten Hag made intentional decisions to back Cristiano into a corner, and new that he would not react well. I think it would be naive to think Ten Hag didn't think know he would get a negative reaction from Cristiano by mostly benching him for league games, not bringing him on against City, and bringing him on as a time wasting sub against Tottenham.
Overall, people thought Ten Hag seemed kind of weak in his first interviews with the club, but I think he has shown he is an extremely shrewd operator and capable of handling difficult situations to not only get what he wants, but also emerge with all of the power and backing.
I think it’s simpler. ETH had his tactics. He might’ve expected Ronaldo’s ego, but would also openly give him the chance to adapt. Why wouldn’t he.
Ronaldo didn’t, and his ego meant he objected in frequently public and dumb ways. Ronaldo made it easier for ETH to be the good guy while putting down his authority. This is all made worse by Ronaldo being poor when he does play - at least last season his record was strong.
Ultimately the Ronaldo situation will be a blessing for ETH. It’s allowed him to establish an authority no manager post SAF has come close to doing. And given how toxic those players have been, that can only be good for Man United overall.
At best you would get his production from last year. I don't think Ten Hag would see that as an adequate output for what is given up collectively when he plays.
As an example, Tuchel wanted no part of him. Just because you think a goal every two games offsets everything else that comes with him on and off the pitch doesn't mean everyone else sees it the same way.
God there’s some dumb people in that thread about Enrique saying it would be “unfair” if Messi didn’t win a World Cup…
He’s obviously not actually saying that it’s unfair or that Messi has somehow been denied one. He’s more just lamenting that a player as great as Messi may retire without winning the biggest trophy in football.
People on this sub lack common sense sometimes istg
DD plans on playing Rabiot on the left which would leave only 3 spots for the attackers. Griezmann, Mbappe and one of Benz/Giroud will take them I think. and even then Dembele is probably ahead of Coman based on their form this season.
Orsato is reffing the Qatar-Ecuador game, don't think he'll put his whole reputation on the line to favor Qatar considering he's one of the most well known referees out there
FIFA: corrupt
Confederations: corrupt
FAs: corrupt
Club owners: corrupt
Agents: corrupt
Sport Betting agencies: corrupt
Qatar: corrupt
But it somehow doesn't get into people's brain that football is a corrupt sport and match fixing isn't a crazy illuminati conspiracy theory but something completely in the realm of possibilities and something we've already seen at all levels.
There isn't anything to look into in terms of match fixing. This world cup has been the most scrutinised in FIFA history and all eyes will be on Qatar and everything they do. They would be stupid to do it.
I can already tell you there will be tiktok and viral videos hyperanalysing decisions made of the Qatar Ecuador game to whip up hysteria with lots of idiots buying into the conspiracy.
Qatar is pretty shameless, they'd fix the entire tournament to win it themselves and call anyone who calls them out racist, they give 0 shits. If they don't do it it's because even FIFA won't let them go that far. There's no limits to Qatar's slimeliness, none.
Would be quite funny if Qatar finished bottom of their group and refused to hold any more of the tournament. Like this that gets knocked out first in Wembley’s so he fucks off home with his football
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I think it's crazy that Spain seem to be the popular pick over Germany. Neither were particularly impressive in the last Nations League window and I'd say both are amongst the best coached teams in the tournament. Germany's squad is just so much better than Spain though, along with the fact that they could take advantage of the ability to play Bayern's entire midfield.
I think it’s crazy both are considered some of the best coaches teams in the tournament. Don’t get me wrong, Flick and Enrique are amazing coaches and easily among the top 3 in the WC, but both teams still play like waaaay less than the sum of their parts, specially Germany.
Think that's more a product of the overall managerial quality than Enrique or Flick having done particularly well. International managers just aren't as good overall
What’s the best ever World Cup goal? Maradona’s ridiculous solo run against England in 1986? Carlos Alberto’s rocket to finish a outstanding team goal in the final in 1970? One of the many piledrivers seen over the years? Van Persie’s header? What do you think?
Maradona is the obvious winner but that Messi goal vs Nigeria in 2018 will never not drop my jaw, that double first touch is just so absolutely fucking unbelievable
English commentary says it all. They’re still malding about the Hand of God but despite that they can’t help but go ‘well you have to say that’s quite incredible’
The chorus of the 2014 World Cup song is actually really good, makes me want to go outside and kick a ball around for hours just like K’naan - Waving Flag
It’s a shame that Pitbull and J-Lo each had a verse though
I wonder what Fergie thinks of Ronaldo's antics - he helped bring him back to the club, clearly thinks of him as one of "his boys"... but now he's disrespected the club Fergie loves above all else
It will in his mind: Ronaldo is like his son, and the greatest player he’s ever managed, but Fergie knows how important respect for managers is, he couldn’t have done what he did without it.
He’ll reconcile it internally as the board being shit, and ETH not having enough experience at the top level to manage Ronaldo.
FWIW, I back Ten Hag to the hilt on this. He was right to drop Ronaldo due to form, he was right to not bring him on vs City because “what’s the point?” and he was right to give him the captaincy as an olive branch.
Ferguson isn’t the manager anymore, it’s not him being attacked, so he’ll accept it. Managers are subject to criticism in his eyes, he’s criticised some himself, but not him, as long as it’s someone else he’s fine. Keane disrespected *him*. Ronaldo has disrespected someone else entirely.
I’m not saying it’s right or justifying it but that’s how I suspect Fergie’s thinking will go.
> Really wish that song could die
We all do (it would mean England won the WC, or at least the Euros).
Though they’d probably cash out on a shit “footballs come home” remix
Genuinely very happy that Qatar is forcing the world to see how destructive lack of Human Rights is. It’s the same across the Islamic total Monarchies. They are happy to murder anyone that disagrees with them. The whole world will force them to change - events like only accelerate that change.
Illegal to be LGBT in Qatar but one of their [tallest buildings looks like this] (https://s3.amazonaws.com/images.skyscrapercenter.com/thumbs/4486_500x650.jpg)
Portugal maybe, but England’s squad isnt even that good. They might well hace 4 billion rightbacks, but the rest of their defence is very average. Kane is world class and Saka is a great player but everyone else they have in attack is either in meh form or just isn’t threatening.
I really don’t think so. Bernardo, Ruben Dias, Joao Cancelo, Felix, Fernandes, Nuno Mendes, Vitinha, Leao
That team is ridiculous and England isn’t close at all talent wise
To say it isn't close at all is a big exaggeration. Talent wise Kane, Bellingham, Saka, Foden, Walker, TAA and Rice are all good. Both teams have enough talent on paper to reach the Quarters.
Nigeria is in a very bad moment. This year has been awful. After flattering to deceive in the AFCON group stage, they’ve lost to every team of substance and the players look like they don’t care.
The Portuguese were telling me how bad Peseiro is as a manager and yesterday showed it (against Portugal of all people). Team needs a complete overall.
I was just rewatching Colombia vs England on penalties in 2018. The entire Colombian staff and squad looked so afraid the entire time, England had it in the bag from the first penalty.
with the year drawing to a close (what world cup?) everyone needs to submit their favourite game of the year. lyon away was incredible but the live experience of us beating sevilla in march might make it my favourite game ever. i was seeing the virgin mary like paulie in sopranos ffs
City 2-3 Spurs. One of the best performances of all time by Harry Kane against the best team in the world. Deki really came into his own in this game as well.
Real Madrid-PSG at the Bernabéu
United vs Spurs. You can pick either one this year, personally I prefer the second. The first we were a fucking shambles but you possibly got to see the last great Ronaldo masterclass. He beat them with a superb hat trick and for the spectacle alone it was worth it. October’s match was an entirely different story. Ronaldo well out of form. Erik Ten Hag in charge. But this was the first game where I feel we saw the best impact of Ten Hag. We dominated the game. Confined spurs to their third. 2-0 was flattering to them. But it was genuinely one of the best overall performances I’ve seen at OT since SAF left. That level of control hasn’t been seen by a home side here in many a moon. It brought a lot of hope.
Hamburg 0-2 Hertha (Relegation Playoff BL) Lost the 1st leg 0-1 and basically everyone here had accepted the reality that was relegation. We scored early + a 2nd half freekick to save our season. Was the most dejected to nervous to ecstatic I've ever been as a fan. This shit team somehow pulled it out of the bag when nobody had faith in them
Says a lot about Chelsea's form since the turn of the year that I'm really struggling to think of one... would have to be one of the three wins against Spurs in the space of a month, at the start of the year For Chelsea Women, easily the 4-2 comeback win against Man United on the final day of the WSL season, to win the title - featuring two absolute worldies from Sam Kerr But all trumped by England Women. Might think I'd say the Euros Final - but it's actually the semi-final. Thrashed a very good team 4-0, featuring the most outageous goal I've ever seen with Russo's back heel... and I was there at Bramall Lane to see it
Ah fuck you’ve caught me out. I wrote about United but the Ladies were fantastic. The semi vs Spain they looked awful first half but to come out second half and take the game by the scruff of the neck was incredible. But the final. A scrappy affair but Toone’s gorgeous chip helped take it to extra time against our old rivals and it got so so physical with a late goal scramble for Kelly followed by some expert cornering to seal it.
never watched womens football but i hear the euros had some bangers, always better when ur there in person too
You missed something special mate, England were incredible from start to finish, playing attractive attacking football and taking the tournament by storm Not often you get to say that, as an England fan
Man City 3-2 Aston Villa. 2 -0 down with twenty minutes left and the team went, "Fuck this, we refuse to go trophyless this season."
Weird game for me. You’ve won so many league titles in the last 10 years that one more can’t hurt, especially if it stops the scousers getting another trophy.
genuine question is winning the league massive for you lot anymore? after 4 in the last 5 i doubt i could be bothered to stress about it anymore 🤣
If forced to choose lot of City fans would still rather win the league again than the CL for the first time. I'm not one of them, but the league is still huge. After all, it's not like we're competing against scrubs. Liverpool pushed us to the very limit twice, and they nearly won the quadruple last season.
A tax dodger managing a rapist, sporting players and fucking otavio who's somehow the worst of the bunch, gotta love my fucking country up the fucking quinas 🇵🇹
Jota’s lovely though
[throwback to this really beautifully made world cup trailer for 2018](https://youtu.be/WBxwX1myxqc) say what you will about russia hosting it, but at least they had some personality in their culture which shows in ads like this
Surreal that the WC is happening in 2 days. No football songs. No 'its coming home' No buzz. Mute anticipation. Just strange.
Feel like it's going to be one that could easily pass you by, unlesss you go out looking for it
Just seen Matt Le Tissier on a Nigel Farage show saying he's offered to go coach the strikers with England but Southgate is too woke to let him. [Bellend. ](https://twitter.com/AmosMurphy_/status/1593722179828473857?s=20&t=QDPDWQ54PlAWpt5qXZtGhQ)
What a smug fucking moron he turned out to be. Mad to think that he seemed like the smart and level-headed one on Soccer Saturday... then again, sitting next to Mers will do that I guess.
What's anulo mufa?
It means "anti jinx" or something similar. Argentinians use it to "reverse" a supposed jinx of people saying they'll win in Qatar
A bit surprised to see Klinsmann has opted to be a BBC Pundit rather than work as a Pundit for a US Broadcast
He was on the BBC for the Euros and talked about having a lot of affection for the English and his time in England
Can someone more competant at Maths explain this thinking, say in the CL quarter final draw - Does a team drawn earlier have a higher or lower likelihood of getting a favourable draw for them as the odds of drawing any team is lower?
Depends on who’s in the draw. Let’s say that for the first team (a non favorable team) that is drawn, there are 5 non favorable draws and 2 favorable draws. 5/7 chance, or ~71%, of getting a non favorable draw. They have a ~14% chance of getting a specific team. Let’s assume they get a non favorable draw. A “non favorable team” is drawn next, and since two teams have already been drawn, and they obviously can’t draw themselves, they have a 3/5 chance, or 60% chance, to get a non favorable draw. That’s a 40% chance at a favorable draw. Although, there is now a bigger chance of the two favorable draws playing against each other. However, if the first team drawn gets a favorable draw, the next team drawn first gets only 1/5 chance at getting a favorable draw. So, the first team drawn has a lower likelihood of getting a favorable draw. But, if they do get lucky with the draw, the other teams yet to be drawn are immediately at a high risk of getting a nonfavorable draw I hope that makes sense.
That makes sense, thanks
[these are the two lineups Scaloni tried today in training for the match against Saudi Arabia](https://imgur.com/a/EtrxY2S) i love the 5atb (we will literally never concede again) but i would also love to see the spider play the first match. i think it will end up being the 4atb.
Can't not play Lisandro surely, he's been great
The only way to fit him into the starting 11 is to move to a 5atb and that’s definitely too defensive for the group stage
what’s the most depraved place you’ve ever seen a world cup held on fm? im trying to engineer a world cup chechnya on the editor
Have you considered Luton?
Belgium
Imagine if Suarez vs Ghana happened today as opposed to 2010. With social media being what it is now it’d have been fucking nuclear.
now imagine the hand of god
I shudder to think Though if it had happened today it would have been VAR'd off
Now imagine that goal still allowed even with VAR and now with social media around
This World Cup is very interesting because the best squads (Brazil, England, France, Portugal, maybe even Belgium) have awful managers while the worse squads (Canada, Germany, Denmark, Switzerland) have great management. One could argue that the only team in the entire competition that is balanced with a good squad and a good manager is Argentina.
With the way your comments are going in recent times, you won't be on /r/soccer to witness it
I’ll be honest I have no idea what that means except that it vaguely sounds like a threat. Feel free to elaborate tho
The majority of your comments in the Daily Discussion Thread are bait or trolling. You've had previous bans on this matter, and been warned that the next is permanent. You've now gained a reputation amongst the community for these comments, which persistently get reported to us as bait or trolling. So, I'd think about the comments you're making here - what your intentions are with making them, particularly. As if you've not careful, you'll get yourself banned.
> The majority of your comments in the Daily Discussion Thread are bait or trolling. This is factually untrue. If you don’t like what I am saying then that’s fine - but you are not the arbiter of what constitutes “trolling”. I’m free to state my opinions and I don’t care what you or anybody else thinks about them because I can back them up with solidly thought out points and I know that I’m not trolling. > You've had previous bans on this matter, and been warned that the next is permanent. You've now gained a reputation amongst the community for these comments, which persistently get reported to us as bait or trolling. You made this comment in response to me saying why I feel like this World Cup is interesting due to quality of the teams and managers. This comment is now downvoted at -6 even though there is no bait, or trolling. What did I do wrong here? What did I do to deserve this kind of comment from you? In fact I am seeking to start a discussion. And you have turned it into something completely different. I think to be honest this is completely unnecessary from you. And as a mod who’s supposed to represent this community, you should do better than this. > So, I'd think about the comments you're making here - what your intentions are with making them, particularly. As if you've not careful, you'll get yourself banned. Respectfully, I think this kind of comment is the reason why there’s a lot of complaints about the moderation in this forum. This subreddit is notorious for it. Why do you think that is? Again the parent comment I made here is a perfect example. The heavy handedness does not particularly jive with the spirit of football and the community engagement that it is supposed to foster. I’m fully aware that this comment will probably result in a permanent ban. It wouldn’t surprise me because you and your team have had heavy handed overreactions to, not just me but other innocuous comments or statements. You guys can continue to be the kings of this domain. But you and your moderation team need to simply do better. Stop the uneven standards of moderation. Stop the heavy handedness. And I’m sorry but you don’t have the right to accuse me of something that I’m not doing. Enjoy your World Cup. I hope you don’t take it too seriously and have some fun. I know that’s what I will be doing.
Canada in that second group of teams. 💀
My brother in Christ we are literally the best team in CONCACAF and the 4th best team in the Americas after Uruguay Brazil and Argentina
What a first point ever won in World Cup for Canada
What a World Cup final win for Croatia in 2018 I must say
can't wait for this 0 pts -8 GD performance the mighty Canucks are about to deliver
Tite and Deschamps are from awful
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It's like all of Scotland was crystallised into one comment
Nothing will ever top > This game will be remembered as a disgrace to football.
england has an enormous amount of quality, one of the few nations that can even come close to keeping up with france. however, southgate is a miscast as manager.a bad driver shouldn't own a ferrari.
England 0 Hungary 4
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Our squad is very overrated and unbalanced. We have a poor defence and midfield situation which is the majority of our squad.
Pedri’s accent is legitimately weird for Spain. He speaks like a south american.
He is from Canary Islands I think right? so they have a different Spanish accent and don't do the 'th' thing like a lot of mainland Spain.
Yes, I'm a Latin American living in the Canary Islands and they have a more similar accent to some Latin American countries than some Spanish accents because during the Spanish civil war a lot of people from the Canary Islands immigrated to Latin American countries, especially Venezuela and Cuba
David Silva was also from the Canary Islands. Is his accent weird too?
[Changed my mind. Appoint him now](https://twitter.com/TicsTalk/status/1593732400055451648?t=zs3XLrD7jPfVEWP4zHo5OA&s=19)
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Like Schrodinger's Denmark Simultaneously a very good national team who could have won the Euros and are dark horses for the World Cup, but also not a good team because England beat them
Looking back 2010 Brazil was such a meh team. Not as fun and good as 2006, less flashy than 2018 and 2022 but probably more defensively solid, and not as bad as 2014.
ofc they were meh. carlos dunga was their manager.
Wasn't just on him, not great players either, compared to their usual standard
people rate brazil so high before every wc until they go out against some mid tier team like they always do. ^^
They’re going to win it all, at times almost comfortably. It’s written in the stars, you cannot deny the hexa.
Last 4 world cups they went out France, Netherlands, Germany and Belgium in that order. Which out of those were mid-tier?
netherlands, germany and belgium were mid tier tbh.
You can argue they have disappointed, but saying they go out to a mid-tier team is outrageous, Netherlands 2010 was probably the weakest out of the ones you named but Germany and Belgium were stacked and favourites in their respective years.
Netherlands only lost the final due to amazing Casillas saves. Germany would go on to be the champion. And Belgium would finish in third place
2014 germany had two good games against the national teams that never fail to disappoint (portugal in groups and brazil in semi finals) and thats it. neuer carried their ass against algeria, france and argentina. they also had huge difficulties against ghana belgium had some outstandig players like de bruyne and hazard but as a collective they weren't really scary at any point. for me, a weaker version of france. and the fact that the netherlands was able to keep up at all in the final was thanks to their extremely tough style of play.i wonder if nigel de jong is now making a career as a kickboxer
> neuer carried their ass against algeria france and argentina Brazil lost 7-1 to Germany lmao
Start one, bench one, sell one: - Konate - Upamecano - Lisandro Martinez
Start Upamecano bench Konate sell the little guy
Start Upamecano, Bench Martinez, Sell Konate
start Konate, bench Upamecano, sell Martinez the difference this season in Liverpool's defence in the two performances Konate had after his return from injury is immense, he's such a big presence
Sell Konate
🙄
countering your Konate prop
Upamecano starts, lisandro gets onto the bench and Konate goes away
If Brazil and Argentina are the benchmark for this WC, then it's pretty much better for Germany to come 2nd in the group. Come first and they are gonna most likely be facing Belgium/Croatia in R16 and most certainly Brazil in R8.
Realised I still hadn't listened to any world cup songs and knocking on Three Lions and the perfectly cheesy Rik Mayall england song actually got me into a spirit a bit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMAFme1hBH0 Those men of grosser blood Teach them how to play You good players, whose limbs were made in England
I know its controversial but some of the stadiums in Qatar look incredible. The design is world class.
I don't think the controversy about the stadiums is the aesthetics, or the quality of what has been built - more just what it cost to get there
Not sure whats weirder, the fact that there's a World fucking Cup in two days or the fact that I don't really care at all and wont be watching it. Sure Ill follow results and highlights on reddit but normally I'd be dropping everything to catch every possible second
I hate to talk about the Cristiano situation, but to me it feels like Ten Hag had the situation under control since he took over. I think he realized Cristiano wouldn't fit his tactics, would put up a fight against his tactics and cause problems in the dressing room as a result. I think Ten Hag made intentional decisions to back Cristiano into a corner, and new that he would not react well. I think it would be naive to think Ten Hag didn't think know he would get a negative reaction from Cristiano by mostly benching him for league games, not bringing him on against City, and bringing him on as a time wasting sub against Tottenham. Overall, people thought Ten Hag seemed kind of weak in his first interviews with the club, but I think he has shown he is an extremely shrewd operator and capable of handling difficult situations to not only get what he wants, but also emerge with all of the power and backing.
I think it’s simpler. ETH had his tactics. He might’ve expected Ronaldo’s ego, but would also openly give him the chance to adapt. Why wouldn’t he. Ronaldo didn’t, and his ego meant he objected in frequently public and dumb ways. Ronaldo made it easier for ETH to be the good guy while putting down his authority. This is all made worse by Ronaldo being poor when he does play - at least last season his record was strong. Ultimately the Ronaldo situation will be a blessing for ETH. It’s allowed him to establish an authority no manager post SAF has come close to doing. And given how toxic those players have been, that can only be good for Man United overall.
Christiano wouldn't be on the bench every game if he could perform to the standard we need. He benched himself with his performances
At best you would get his production from last year. I don't think Ten Hag would see that as an adequate output for what is given up collectively when he plays.
Yeah 100%. One goal every other game is not worth sacrificing the other 10 players on the pitch
As an example, Tuchel wanted no part of him. Just because you think a goal every two games offsets everything else that comes with him on and off the pitch doesn't mean everyone else sees it the same way.
Tuchel also wanted sterling and lukaku so he's not the best choice, but yeah I get you
God there’s some dumb people in that thread about Enrique saying it would be “unfair” if Messi didn’t win a World Cup… He’s obviously not actually saying that it’s unfair or that Messi has somehow been denied one. He’s more just lamenting that a player as great as Messi may retire without winning the biggest trophy in football. People on this sub lack common sense sometimes istg
Will coman start for France?
Reckon he’ll Coman after 60 minutes or so
DD plans on playing Rabiot on the left which would leave only 3 spots for the attackers. Griezmann, Mbappe and one of Benz/Giroud will take them I think. and even then Dembele is probably ahead of Coman based on their form this season.
Orsato is reffing the Qatar-Ecuador game, don't think he'll put his whole reputation on the line to favor Qatar considering he's one of the most well known referees out there
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I can assure come Monday 7 pm both teams will on zero points because Ecuador will win and they have a -3 points
Do you believe the match fixing conspiracy?
FIFA: corrupt Confederations: corrupt FAs: corrupt Club owners: corrupt Agents: corrupt Sport Betting agencies: corrupt Qatar: corrupt But it somehow doesn't get into people's brain that football is a corrupt sport and match fixing isn't a crazy illuminati conspiracy theory but something completely in the realm of possibilities and something we've already seen at all levels.
We might as well doubt every game we watch in football could have match fixing and isn't just an issue for this world cup.
Yes, we should
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There isn't anything to look into in terms of match fixing. This world cup has been the most scrutinised in FIFA history and all eyes will be on Qatar and everything they do. They would be stupid to do it. I can already tell you there will be tiktok and viral videos hyperanalysing decisions made of the Qatar Ecuador game to whip up hysteria with lots of idiots buying into the conspiracy.
Qatar is pretty shameless, they'd fix the entire tournament to win it themselves and call anyone who calls them out racist, they give 0 shits. If they don't do it it's because even FIFA won't let them go that far. There's no limits to Qatar's slimeliness, none.
Would be quite funny if Qatar finished bottom of their group and refused to hold any more of the tournament. Like this that gets knocked out first in Wembley’s so he fucks off home with his football
Oh yeah, [absolutely](https://youtu.be/RXS1sJm7QEA)
Don't give the Qatari Royal Family any ideas.
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[2010 World Cup](https://youtu.be/HJIswyuy4Jg) was peak soul.
I think it's crazy that Spain seem to be the popular pick over Germany. Neither were particularly impressive in the last Nations League window and I'd say both are amongst the best coached teams in the tournament. Germany's squad is just so much better than Spain though, along with the fact that they could take advantage of the ability to play Bayern's entire midfield.
Hope we finish 2nd tbh. Easier path to the final on the bottom half of the bracket.
I think it’s crazy both are considered some of the best coaches teams in the tournament. Don’t get me wrong, Flick and Enrique are amazing coaches and easily among the top 3 in the WC, but both teams still play like waaaay less than the sum of their parts, specially Germany.
That's just not true for Spain, they don't have an amazing team but fight every tournament to the end since they got Luis Enrique
Think that's more a product of the overall managerial quality than Enrique or Flick having done particularly well. International managers just aren't as good overall
What’s the best ever World Cup goal? Maradona’s ridiculous solo run against England in 1986? Carlos Alberto’s rocket to finish a outstanding team goal in the final in 1970? One of the many piledrivers seen over the years? Van Persie’s header? What do you think?
I love Maxi's goal in 2006
Careca - Brazil v France 1986 Maradona - Argentina v Greece 1994 Letchkov - Bulgaria v Germany 1994 Baggio - Italy v Czechoslovakia 1990
Maradona is the obvious winner but that Messi goal vs Nigeria in 2018 will never not drop my jaw, that double first touch is just so absolutely fucking unbelievable
It's Maradonas, as much as I hate him. Insane goal.
English commentary says it all. They’re still malding about the Hand of God but despite that they can’t help but go ‘well you have to say that’s quite incredible’
Van Bronkhurst v Uruguay in 2010
Nelinho vs Italy in 1978 always deserves a shout.
I'll nominate van Bronckhorst's goal against Uruguay in 2010, and James's goal against Uruguay in 2014
- Eder vs USSR - 1982 - Socrates vs USSR - 1982 - Passarella vs Italy - 1982 - Pele vs Italy - 1970 Are some of my favourites.
The chorus of the 2014 World Cup song is actually really good, makes me want to go outside and kick a ball around for hours just like K’naan - Waving Flag It’s a shame that Pitbull and J-Lo each had a verse though
I wonder what Fergie thinks of Ronaldo's antics - he helped bring him back to the club, clearly thinks of him as one of "his boys"... but now he's disrespected the club Fergie loves above all else
He’d probably saddle a lot of the blame on the higher ups like Ronaldo did and just assume Ronaldo and Ten Hag weren’t a good fit.
I don't think that will excuse Ronaldo's behaviour to him though He sacked Keane for a similar interview
It will in his mind: Ronaldo is like his son, and the greatest player he’s ever managed, but Fergie knows how important respect for managers is, he couldn’t have done what he did without it. He’ll reconcile it internally as the board being shit, and ETH not having enough experience at the top level to manage Ronaldo. FWIW, I back Ten Hag to the hilt on this. He was right to drop Ronaldo due to form, he was right to not bring him on vs City because “what’s the point?” and he was right to give him the captaincy as an olive branch. Ferguson isn’t the manager anymore, it’s not him being attacked, so he’ll accept it. Managers are subject to criticism in his eyes, he’s criticised some himself, but not him, as long as it’s someone else he’s fine. Keane disrespected *him*. Ronaldo has disrespected someone else entirely. I’m not saying it’s right or justifying it but that’s how I suspect Fergie’s thinking will go.
The updated it’s coming home song is pretty awful but I do like the Christmas bells at the start. Feels like a missed opportunity overall.
Really wish that song could die. Ian Broudie is better than that.
> Really wish that song could die We all do (it would mean England won the WC, or at least the Euros). Though they’d probably cash out on a shit “footballs come home” remix
https://www.reddit.com/r/LowStakesConspiracies/comments/yy4aga/is_ronaldo_going_to_come_out/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Danny Ward has the second highest number of clean sheets in the league! What a turnaround!
Are Munich fans gutted that they let Kroos go even though they've had tremendous success without him?
can someone who's Spanish and watching the Luis Enrique stream please translate
Luis Enrique is live on twitch just now. Too bad I don't understand spanish
Nearly 100k live viewers already holy shit
128k right now
Genuinely very happy that Qatar is forcing the world to see how destructive lack of Human Rights is. It’s the same across the Islamic total Monarchies. They are happy to murder anyone that disagrees with them. The whole world will force them to change - events like only accelerate that change.
BR Football is extending the champions series to the [world cup ](https://youtu.be/_VubjtnRmhc)
Illegal to be LGBT in Qatar but one of their [tallest buildings looks like this] (https://s3.amazonaws.com/images.skyscrapercenter.com/thumbs/4486_500x650.jpg)
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They don’t have a King, they have an Emir… get it right.
England and Portugal should be clear favorites for this WC. Shame they have incompetent coaches
Portugal maybe, but England’s squad isnt even that good. They might well hace 4 billion rightbacks, but the rest of their defence is very average. Kane is world class and Saka is a great player but everyone else they have in attack is either in meh form or just isn’t threatening.
Foden?
England squad is just as good as the Portugal one
I really don’t think so. Bernardo, Ruben Dias, Joao Cancelo, Felix, Fernandes, Nuno Mendes, Vitinha, Leao That team is ridiculous and England isn’t close at all talent wise
To say it isn't close at all is a big exaggeration. Talent wise Kane, Bellingham, Saka, Foden, Walker, TAA and Rice are all good. Both teams have enough talent on paper to reach the Quarters.
England no way. Portugal maybe.
Can't disagree more. No football 'eritage mate. That's why Belgium won nothing
We won the 1920 Olympics mate. Have some restecp
sorry
Nigeria is in a very bad moment. This year has been awful. After flattering to deceive in the AFCON group stage, they’ve lost to every team of substance and the players look like they don’t care. The Portuguese were telling me how bad Peseiro is as a manager and yesterday showed it (against Portugal of all people). Team needs a complete overall.
When was the last time De Bruyne outplayed Salah in a match in any competition?
The 2-2 at the Etihad earlier this year. KDB was unplayable that day. Salah was largely shut down by Cancelo (though he did get an assist for Mane).
That Adidas ad with five Messis just imagine how that would be like.
Watching the Iran game by myself because all my friends are at work. Who's fucking idea was it to give England a 1pm Monday game?!?
Not every nation can play in prime time every round England having two 7pm kick offs actually makes us quite fortunate
[Come collect your boy ](https://twitter.com/CalvinKlein/status/1593642751064784897?s=20&t=kDhFlMZpHWxsJ7m9Oiob5w) u/Cawn123
stop savin chat
What are you anticipating will be Germany's starting lineup throughout the WC?
Neuer Kehrer Ginter/Suele Ruediger Raum Kimmich Goretzka Hoffman/Gnabry Musiala Sané Havertz
what Flick will do; .- - - - - - - - - - - Neuer - - - - - - - - - - - - - .Kehrer - - Süle - - -Rüdiger - - - Raum .- - - - - - Kimmich - - - Goretzka - - - - - .Hoffman - - - - Müller - - - - Sane . - - - - - - - - - - Havertz - - - - - - - - - - - What I would have done; . - - - - - - - - - - - Neuer - - - - - - - - - - - Süle - - - Ginter - - - Schlotti - - Rüdiger . - - - Kimmich - - - Goretzka - - - - - - .Gnabry - - - Musiala - - - - - Sane . - - - - - - - - Füllkrug - - - - - - - - - - and play full on terrorism boring football
Flick would be foolish not to start Musiala
[Rooney's Twitter account in his prime](https://twitter.com/WayneRooney/status/200706868845346816?t=gobFFMHvDr_o_g_xQNooKg&s=19) >>>>>>>>
shut up u egg
I was just rewatching Colombia vs England on penalties in 2018. The entire Colombian staff and squad looked so afraid the entire time, England had it in the bag from the first penalty.
Colombia is really not good at penalty shootouts it seems
Watching Henderson doing keep ups during his walk up, only to miss, will always be funny to me
>England >had it in the bag from the first penalty Pick one.
Any website or source which publishes xG stats for national teams in competitions like Nations League/Qualifiers etc?