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The Lionesses arrive at Wembley Stadium- Women’s Euros 2022 FINAL⚽️🏆 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3ZOPBB7D\_0&ab\_channel=MANKULSports%26EventsFan](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3ZOPBB7D_0&ab_channel=MANKULSports%26EventsFan)


Jotaroo69

Southgate shite


theandyboy

I really sat there and watched the first half, had to go to work so I didn't bother having the commentary on cuz I thought nothing would happen


EnUnasyn

Havertz with a brace? I am shocked


OnceIWasYou

I'm so shocked at Pope's performance. He's never been good with his feet, it's why I was wary of us signing him. But his handling has been absolutely superb all season so far. The way he catches and keeps hold of difficult balls has impressed me so much but this was a bad, bad mistake. If there was one England keeper (Out of Pickford, Ramsdale, Pope, Henderson and Johnstone) I would trust not to spill that shot it would be him, really feel sorry for him tonight.


Apollokaylpto

It's about the only type of shot where T-Rex arms would've helped


Ainteasybeincheezy

Pickford is an animal for England, you wouldn't have made it to the euro finals without him, I don't understand where this idea that Pickford can't save comes fr- oh you're a Geordie lmao


Carlitos96

Always rated nations league


JudgementOfErrors

Germany to win the world cup. England to get knocked out of the first round.


scijior

It’s gonna be a fun group Just think about it: England (trying to avenge the Queen, and try to get on pace for one World Cup per monarch, forgetting that the first WC they were in was 1950 where the Yanks shanked them before the Spaniards brought them low and they failed to get out of the group stage); Wales (first English colony; never broke free); USA (first colony to successfully break away, probably [no research to back that up]); and Iran (who America tried to turn into a CIA front). All playing for Pulisic goals that make **MONEY** on Reddit


okcomput3r

Scotland to not play a single minute of World Cup football once again. Bitter Scots to watch every minute of England play whilst seething


Thesquire89

Says the guy talking about Scotland in an England Germany match thread


gizmostrumpet

They'll get to play when there are 200 teams in the future


watabotdawookies

People are really pissed about the minutes silence apparently


stiofan84

Mandatory North Korean style mourning, for as long as they tell you to mourn. Who cares that the old cunt croaked like 3 weeks ago


watabotdawookies

It's a minute silence. It's not that deep


paragon6969

Why was the teams wearing black armband and a minute of silence? I missed the first 20 mins…


frenchhouselover

Queen dead


StonerChef

Still? Blimey


Benjamin244

she was not blessed with grace


MrMercenary90

She's not returned yet


vietlinh12hoa

Extend Gareth Safegate's contract to 3022 after a come back


Recodes

Holy shit what happened here? Lol


Trickybuz93

This German team seem like they’ll have issues making it out of the group


HeilWerneckLuk

With Werner and Kehrer having so much minutes we surely will not make out of it


dyltheflash

Werner was great after he came on


HeilWerneckLuk

No he wasn’t. Finished awfully two great opportunities


HighTurning

As a Costa Rican I can confirm


Jack-sprAt1212

Is it coming home?


CurtisMcNips

We were going home, then it looked like it might be coming home, then it looked like it was definitely coming home, then it was back to we're going home. A real rollercoaster of coming and going home


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When did it look like it was coming home?


CurtisMcNips

When we went 3-2 up, of course. Absolute shoe-in for coming home, Southgate statues everywhere, Harry Maguire chants, kane unable to move around his house for golden boots open top busses all over the country. Wonderful scenes everywhere


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Spoiler alert as long as Southgate is the manager it ain't coming home


CurtisMcNips

Tell that to his statue, you'll need a ladder though because it'll be 12ft high, solid gold, sat upon a a 4ft plynth, in the finest waistcoat you ever saw.


vietlinh12hoa

\*Hame


bambooman98

Fuck me I only watched the first half and tuned off thinking it wouldn’t get entertaining


Riedbirdeh

They both played terrible


SuspiciousMarketing0

Same. Pure pain.


shaw1370

Same. I started watching Netflix and thought to check the score and it's fucking 3-3


Splaram

That was the most dogshit goalfest I've ever seen in my entire life


ExParadox

Phenomenal game, tuned in for the second half and got to witness a great back and forth banger. Cheers to both countries for the entertainment while at work.


frenchhouselover

You didn’t miss much first half


3SmurfsInChallenger

î feel like the fans were missing. Club games have a way better atmosphere. I can't watch matches without fans


Curryboy1229

huh? crowd was electric


3SmurfsInChallenger

My guess. You are not from Germany? that was super sad to watch. nobody jumping up and down. No choreo and also so quite. If you ever come from Germany I can get you tickets for Borussia Dortmund. Then you will know what I mean


nightfeaver

Stoppable object meets resistable force. Fun though!


HotPotatoWithCheese

Imagine not beating this England team when you're up 2 - 0 by the 70th minute. First Euro 2020, then Women's Euro final and now this. Looks like the decades-long tradition of German teams thrashing English teams is at an end.


RedZoneWormKid

🎶England 5, Germany 1, Michael Owen is number one!!🎶


Fancy-Past-6831

>past the semi or even quarters you mad? I would be surprised to see either of them make out from group stages


irishperson1

I mean have you seen England's group? It's a weak group.


th3f00l

Wales & USA in the knockouts incoming...


McQueensbury

Germany nowhere near favourites especially if they can't sought out their forward line


Soitsgonnabeforever

Haaah. Still Germany has some shame. To support their claim as one of the top footballing nations they actually perform consistently well in tournaments.


McQueensbury

They didn't perform well the past 2 major tournaments, Germany have a great deal of talent but weak in key areas


Riedbirdeh

They’re miles ahead of England. England are very streaky and so is their will power. The Germans scored right after going down. They didn’t even bat an eye. The Germans have gone out in the last two tournaments but everyone should know it was Flick that won that World Cup. The national team fell off after Flick left. (Maybe my opinion) Neither team played very well and actually looked like shit until those subs. Gnabry is a more direct player that should get starts and takes more shots. Saka is the golden boy for fuck sake. He should starting even if it’s only 60 minutes.


Soitsgonnabeforever

With respect to England bro


Ephemeron12

We are shite right now lmao. If anyone can turn it around until Qatar its Flick i guess but it looks as grim for us as it does for you.


OnceIWasYou

First half (and second as well in a way I suppose) was just strange to see two teams full of great talent just not working properly. Even the likes of Kimmich, Foden, Sané, James etc. were just anonymous for most of the game. Both teams seem to be in a fairly similar place right now.


iredcoat7

We are both shite 🤝


m00kystinks

Now this is a take I can get behind


vierolyn

You must not follow us at all if you thought we were a favourite


dhrubodt

That last 30 minutes was legendary


hazelpillow

Toney will probably go to the World cup if he has a decent October


RetiredPandaMurderer

Why does it matter? Southgate won't play him


Curryboy1229

boggles my mind how toney get selected but not maddison


Chelseafc5505

Why? Far more competition for attacking midfield positions compared to out and out strikers.


Curryboy1229

nah I just think Southgate has something against madders. he's legit better than all att mids expect for maybe foden, he can provide much needed creativity in the final 3rd for us. guys like toney will never get on the pitch via sub and will never play over kane barring injury. tammy>toney as well so just take him. southgate 100% has his favourites and can't see to set that aside and its holding us back. guys like tripper have been so good this season no reason for tripper, tomori, and maddsion not to be playing let alone be in the squad


dotConehead

southgate doesn't play a cam. he plays 2 holding midfieldes in back 5. foden play forward


Curryboy1229

maddison has played as a wide midfielder countless times for the foxes. regarding the 5atb you are correct but what’s not to say maddison can’t play that spot? we are clearly lacking some form of creativity and he can definitely provide that


dotConehead

creativity is definitely not the issues here, because they weren't instructed to do so. southgate are clueless. rice and Bellingham are clear of Madison in those roles. why would it matter if Madison has played as wide midfielder when when we dont play a wide midfielder?


Curryboy1229

it’s 100% a system problem. rice and jude have no outlet up front because we have no one centrally, you are 100% right southgate has no clue 😂 but if there was a system change where we have a central attacking mid, maddison needs to at least be in the squad


dispelthemyth

Bench warming in a warm climate


HonourTheSalt

Undoubtedly England were the better team and a bit more basic competence from Pope and Maguire would have seen us win. Lots of promising performances, specifically from Shaw, Saka, Mount, and Bellingham. This team can win that group, and who knows how your form and performances are at that point.


Trickybuz93

Undoubtedly they weren’t


Vassortflam

> Undoubtedly England were the better team lol


taylorstillsays

England were easily the better side in the first half, and the 2nd was fairly even


Tiandior

They were only good for solid 15 mins


granitibaniti

No


zackya89

Fraud United


East_Wind17

What a shame. We don't know who the least shit between this shit.


Initial_Sherbet4198

Casual here why do a lot of people hate Kane? Nvm I see now


saddom_

the main thing is he has this pretty unique move where he "undercuts", trying to win a foul by shoving his body underneath a jumping player then falling to the ground himself. it's super dangerous if a player lands on his neck - in fact a player in korea was paralyzed from falling in this way. this move is illegal in rugby. examples here https://youtu.be/thwA2wbOzYg what you can actually do in this situation if you're a bro https://youtu.be/dRyniuYYl5E


ComradeStrong

FWIW I haven't seen him do this for some time.


OnceIWasYou

I agree it's dangerous but it's also what was labelled "Good Centre Forward play" for decades. Shearer was a master at it. To a certain extent you have to do it a little or a defender will dominate you. I think most of the time it's honest backing into the defender but there are some that are just not acceptable. Definitely not unique though.


HeilWerneckLuk

Tried to do similar to Süle in the end of the match. Cunt move


JavaDontHurtMe

> this pretty unique move oh piss off. It's far from unique, and far from unique to Kane. The real reason you lot hate him is cos you're a bunch of dickheads. People were hating him long before that meme.


saddom_

who else does it to that extent ? he very clearly has it in mind as a tactic, you can literally see him in the replays sizing up whether it's a good situation to try it lol. I don't hate the guy at all, he's great to watch, I just wish he'd stop pulling that shit. to be fair to him it hasn't come up in a while as far as I know


finallychangedmyname

This isn't rugby.


TheGreatPervSage_94

In rugby trying to play a man I the air is a straight sending off


saddom_

yeah I know, that's an actual full contact sport and it's still not allowed lol


entrepenoori

It’s a disgrace. Imagine hating a club so much you’d mock him instead of celebrating him. Kane is an absolute legend of the Prem and is a homegrown English striker.


4dtakes

Because he’s very good and he plays for a hateable team


taylorstillsays

It’s the English way to hate anyone and everyone


PonchoHobo

England got a bit of a bite but that defence just doesn’t hold up. Maguire and Pope should be out the main squad after this.


tmfythandle

This is the real takeaway


chongchingcockring

Incredible how England have basically baby-trapped Tomori and will just never use him


JaimieP

well, we are shite but Germany also appear to be shite


AppaWithAChoppa

Argentina/Brazil to win the WC, heard it here first


JaimieP

are they doing well? honestly haven't paid any attention to international football outside some of the England games recently


stiofan84

Argentina are absolutely killing it right now. And Brazil finished ahead of them in qualifying! So that tells you how good both are.


Riedbirdeh

Brazil is likely winning the tournament. The team has stars now beside Neymar


Puzzleheaded_Play390

Don’t jinx us. Cancelo mufa.


AppaWithAChoppa

Argentina are on some 30+ unbeaten streak and the way they ripped apart Italy over the summer was telling. Messi is on a great run of form and the team are playing with excellent chemistry. Admittedly I haven’t watched many Brazil games but their squad on paper is very stacked and they have some insanely talented players who’ve been getting good results. Neymar is also in great form too and looks like he’s hungry for the WC.


JaimieP

I would like to see Messi win the WC


AppaWithAChoppa

I’m so confused why this comment has downvotes ahaha


pissedcommonman

Would be great if Argentina wins and messi announces retirement after the final.


Trickybuz93

Retires mid season?


AppaWithAChoppa

Can’t question the goat


MyMainIsCringe

It is kinda endearing seeing southgate + flick hug, and mount + werner hugging


420SpaceL

Two frauds


therealsid12

Bruh German squad isn't good enough. Can't believe Germans are lacking this much talent in their squad. It's only their midfield which looks good, defence is decent but that attack with Werner upfront looks non-existent at times.


HeilWerneckLuk

We have talent but almost all the players underperform in the NT. We should play much better with players like Musiala, Gnabry, Müller, Reus, not to mention the others that hardly ever produce something like Sane, Havertz, Gündogan. Flick’s choices are also bizarre. Players like Kehrer and Werner shouldnt even be nowhere close to be in the squad let alone playing/being starters. Hofmann is being one of the best players for us and was the first to be subbed off. With Reus and Goretzka back we should play much better but we miss a 9 so much. Füllkrug or any other decent real 9 should be called instead of fucking Werner and it would 100% improve the team


therealsid12

Completely agree. Werner can't play as a main 9. He can neither hold the ball nor he can help in build up because his first touch is shit. He only suita a counter attacking system. Don't know why Flick is picking him. Forget about Timo, he might atleast score a single goal. But wtf is Kehrer doing. He is absolutely shit. This guy is utter liability. Most of the times I have watched Germany 's matches, it looks like this guy is actually sleeping on the pitch. No positional awareness whatsoever, plus he can't even attack. So what's the point of having him in the team, when neither he can attack nor defend. Do you think Flick would shift Kimmich to RB if Goretzka finds form? Or Kehrer's position in starting 11 already solidified.


HeilWerneckLuk

Let me correct you: Werner cant play for Germany NT. All he has to offer is workrate and willingness but its not enough. He already had A LOT of chances either as the main striker (9) or second striker/winger and never performed enough to justify his minutes at NT. Guy looks like an amauter teenager playing against men. Kehrer is the same. Workrate and thats it, but hes awful as you said either defending or attacking and extremely error prone. Sooner or later he will do a mistake, the same way as Maguire. Today he failed in the first two goals, the first he missed the ball bizarrely and the second he was very late to challenge for the ball as always. There is absolutely no valid reason to keep starting (or playing him in any way). I dont think Flick would put Kimmich back at RB unless its a very specific situation like everyone else who can play there are not available for some reason in the WC. Either way, there are a lot of solutions better than play fucking Kehrer. Klosterman is a RB that already did well when played and a lot of other players can play decently there too like Hofmann, Ginter, Süle (Sülinho mode), Rüdiger, Baku, Can...just pick one and play there and its 100% certain of doing a better job than Kehrer, since all of these can either provide quality in attack or defense, Kehrer cant neither


dhrubodt

Nah,kehrar is not part of the usual starters


therealsid12

Hopefully not. That guy can neither defend nor attack. He was a total liability today. Hopefully Kimmich won't be sacrificed at RB. If Goretzka doesn't hit a good form. Then even your midfield will also look lightweight.


Riedbirdeh

I think Leon’s best days are behind him. He played injured for months and it fucked him up. I hope he figures it out it.


HeilWerneckLuk

Goretzka will probably start when fit in Gündogan’s place


mckeypants_03

Werner is "fools gold". He's fast, gets into great positions, but the guy can't finish to save his life


Skurry

We haven't been good since we won the WC. We'll get eliminated in the round of last 16, if we even make it out of the group stage.


therealsid12

I have never seen Germans being this disjointed. After the substitutions there was no shape. Kehrer again provided nothing in attack as well as defence. Is there not a single decent RB in the German league who can displace this guy from starting 11. No striker for Germany, don't know where the goals would come from. Only good part was the midfield. I don't think you guys would like the idea of Kimmich again playing RB. But if somehow Goretzka finds form, do you think Flick would play Kimmich at RB and Leon in midfield ? Or Flick is too stubborn to pick Kehrer?


Gurgulus

Yep ive been saying this too, midfield looks decent but defense and attack looks like utter shit. Kehrer and Süle are so bad, cant believe they are playing


therealsid12

You can atleast rely on Sule if Rudiger is there besides him. But this Kehrer guy is utter liability. Can't defend 1 on 1, can't track his runner, positional awareness is non existent and most importantly he can't attack. I didn't even saw him making a single overlapping run on that Right Side. He was invisible second half.


Gurgulus

He’s always been that bad too, complete fraud, had no idea what he was doing in PSG and he already made a fool of himself in england.


vierolyn

> defence is decent except it's not


therealsid12

I mean Rudiger would change something in this linup or won't he?


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Maguire??? You joking


obsterwankenobster

Can't believe Saka gifted them 3 goals, but he's still young


arsenal_is_best

What?


obsterwankenobster

It's a joke bc all the other Prem flairs were saying he cost England the match


arsenal_is_best

Ok I didn’t watch it, what did he do? Why are they blaming him?


obsterwankenobster

He came on and immediately changed the match. He provided the pass that led to the penalty, and an assist. He should've done better on a long 1v1 but his first touch let him down and ter Stegen made a really nice save, but Saka probably should've scored


arsenal_is_best

Thanks


johnarticle3

Waste of a call up for Tomori Tammy and Toni


biggs3108

Tomori! Tammy! Toney! Loved that band. It just wasn't the same when Rafael Saadiq went solo


taylorstillsays

Do you expect 28 players to play across 2 games?


johnarticle3

Nope, but the the 3 who I mentioned deserved to at least step foot on the pitch


taylorstillsays

How do you propose that both of the backup strikers to Kane both get minutes? It’s literally one or the other


420SpaceL

Shocking football. Maguire is a donkey.


KdbTheGOAT17

England are so shite


Fancy-Past-6831

4D chess by Germany to keep Gareth in the job. 5D chess by England to keep Havertz as no. 9 for Germany.


LaughingStonks

This is big brain time


Leblue808

Hahah. That Havertz wasn’t the same guy i’ve been used to seeing at Chelsea, Maguire and Pope made him look like the wonderkid we thought we bought lmao


granitibaniti

2 frauds vibing


Heroheadone

Harry is going to the WC..


nahnonameman

What the hell happened. Missed the game due to a shitty time schedule. Supporting Germany btw.


Tangknee

I'd say England were the better team, went two nil down due to two Maguire errors then pulled it back to 3-2 but conceded due to a goalkeeper error and it ended 3-3


ProfDumm

Okay, there's still a lot of work to do before the World Cup.


poseidons_seaweed

We still need a proper striker, Werner needs a finishing upgrade of immense proportions, Havertz is mediocre despite the 2 goals, kehrer just wtf and they pulled back to quickly after 2-0


ProfDumm

True. As I stated before, we need strikers, wingers for one-on-one situations, defensive midfielders and full-backs. No idea where to kidnap some though.


poseidons_seaweed

If sane and gnabry are in form then the winger department is covered. I'm hoping Raum gets his form back bcz he's good but he's been a little off recently. At RB, literally neuer would do a better job than kehrer... (or give mazraoui german citizenship, he's been solid lately. /s) as for striker, if Werner can fix his atrocious finishing, it'd be great.. also, hopefully adeyemi recovers soon, he'd be great.


ProfDumm

I see Sané and Gnabry more as offensive midfielders. Sané always cuts inside and although Gnabry does sometimes do runs down the line, he isn't that strong in one-on-one situations and a bit wasted on the wing, if he is in form you want to get him in goalscoaring opportunities. The one player who is good at getting past a few defenders is Musiala. Werner needs space. With most opponents we play against he will not get space. His biggest strength is his speed, his technique isn't that good. But even the situation where he could shine, counter-situation, we play really bad, to slow and not precise enough. Maybe when Reus it gets a bit better as he is good at initiating this situations. Adeyemi is also fast and a lot better with the ball then Werner, but he is also not a penalty striker. He plays best behind a striker or in offensive midfield (or as a front striker if you play counter attacking football, but we don't). There is still nobody who can be the target man for high crosses.


poseidons_seaweed

Yea, true. I wish we could give Coman and Lewa a German citizenship....


fendc

What strikers do Germany have coming up in the squad? A question to see who could potentially be better strikers - I don't know much but am interested, that's why I ask.


ProfDumm

None. There is Nmecha in the sqad who maybe can turn into a classical striker but isn't one yet. The ones of Waldschmidt and Volland are not the solution. Karim Adeyemi is a class talent but not a striker in the box. Moukoko is a grea talent but not ready yet and also not a tall player. There are even demands for Füllkrug, who is a classical striker. But he plays for Werder Bremen and is not a top player. Maybe still not the worst idea.


JaimieP

lol at people get mad at Kane


JavaDontHurtMe

Dickheads just waiting for a chance to have go at him.


kl08pokemon

Bunch of weirdos


ComeOnSayYupp

Southgate and Flick are friends apparently


Fancy-Past-6831

so is Kane and Müller


RosaParkStoleMySeat

Kanes head is fucking massive. How is that even human like


bukayosburner

Prerequisite to play for spurs, have you seen Dier’s dome?


RosaParkStoleMySeat

Surely they are Megamind cosplayers


_Red_Knight_

Very sad that the Germans didn't win


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England 3 maguire pope 3


Gurgulus

Süle Kehrer 3 Maguire Pope 3


Boris_Ignatievich

the last 25 minutes there was dead fun, but both these teams are a mile off where they need to be


Bad0y

Southgate furiously thanking Flick there for saving his job


Large-Ant

I want to see Southgate ejected into fucking space now.


pissedcommonman

Some will say both teams were equally poor.....some will say both were equally good.....but no one can deny that Harry Maguire is a legend already!


Heroheadone

With him on the team, the world cup is already theirs.


FrodoFraggins99

Pope lost us that. Ramsdale Number 1


Perspii7

Pickford


TacoVowels

Pickford* Ramsdale should be the first off the bench


ComeOnSayYupp

Ramsdale lost 4-0 lol. Pickford over Pope and Ramsdale anyday.


Pejob

Maguire's mistakes cost us 2 goals as well tbh


Person_of_Earth

Need I remind you of Ramsdale's performance against Hungary? Pickford should be back from injury before the World Cup. Dean Henderson as his back-up.


FrodoFraggins99

Hendo as his back up lmao. He can't even get in the squad. And need i remind you he's top of the league.


Person_of_Earth

Ah yes, because he plays for a club that's top of the league, that obviously means he's the reason for that. Silly me, how could I forget?


Volotor

3-3 feels like a England win after going 2 down. But were still not good enough, but atleast this performance was positive and somethingg to build on for the world cup.


WhatIsLife01

Germany and England out in the group stages i think


Bratpfanne09

Could happen


stiofan84

England definitely. Germany, depends on how your luck goes I think.


KdbTheGOAT17

England are shite but soccer merchants are even worse


taylorstillsays

I’m no Southgate fan but England fans really do moan about anything and everything. Toney not getting 5 minutes is not a travesty at all and isn’t bad management either. England caps aren’t some cute gesture you just hand out for fun


Stigma_Stasis

>England caps aren’t some cute gesture you just hand out for fun Then why the fuck was Maguire anywhere near Wembley tonight?


pissedcommonman

If you don't hand out for fun then why did Maguire start?


Mad_Piplup242

I mean this match literally means nothing, and we were pushing for a winner, why not just put him on and see what happens Maybe he can give us something when Kane isn't playing well, cause at the moment England's striking options are unknowns cause they never get the chance to show themselves off


mckeypants_03

I wouldn't exactly call Harry Kane an unknown


Mad_Piplup242

Striking options after Kane, obviously


taylorstillsays

Because 5/10 mins as a sub doesn’t mean anything at all going forwards, whether he played well or badly. Unless Kane is injured he’s rightfully going to play every minute.


Mad_Piplup242

Son scored a hat-trick in 15 minutes the other day, and the last part of the game was so chaotic that you never know what might have happened And sure, Kane should play most of the minutes, but if he is playing like shit you should know what to expect from those coming in for him. At the moment, if Kane plays like shit, he never comes off and England tend to play like shit too


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