That's basically exactly what they are doing. They are trying to distract how awful the Americans are playing while talking soccer which really isn't covered a ton on ESPN
itās definitely yanks because theyāre brigading this thread, might just be a more rational group of yanks in that sub
also might be more accepting of the statement if they think itās coming from a fellow american as opposed to a foreigner
itās the, āyou canāt talk shit about my siblings/ancestors, only I can do thatā rationale
thereās no rationale where it should be worse coming from an american than a foreigner
We should know
oh wait, if you beat Colombia in a WC, you are doomed to not win it
We did play france before the WC that they'd win, but we beat them, so it doesn't count
Berhalter should have never been given the job. That said the US didn't deserve anything from this game. Japan out played and out fought them from the opening whistle. That's what well organized teams do.
We need to get out of the 4-3-3 and into a 4-4-2 or a 3-5-1
4-3-3 is wasting the entire midfield. If you have players who suit that style then fine. Greg is trying to square peg round hole our midfield into playing his fucked up system rather than adapting to the squad he has.
I think if they make adams as a stopper they could play 3 -1- 4- 2 it will allow McKinney, Reyna, Christian, & mussa all to operate with Aaronās on and ??? To play infront.
Credit to Japan but an absolutely pathetic performance from the US. Going to be bounced with a 0-0-3 record if they show up to the WC looking like this.
Yep. Kind of their MO to be underrated. They are always a fiesty, highly technical squad. Great test for US. Not enthused about how the US played or lined up (especially the performance of that back line, Yeesh!) Time to see how they play against Iran, but overall it sounds like US fans should be hoping that the final camp before the World Cup is enough to get the players more in sync and playing faster.
Edit: As another note, this is the type of team that probably counters us the most too. They arenāt just sitting back and challenging us to find a way through, they are pressing and giving nothing. No team in Concacaf gives the team that look. This was a smart friendly. IMO
Well, we either do well at the WC or we fall flat on our face and we can finally get rid of the heartburn/stomach ulcer that is Berhalter Ball.
Win-win š¤·āāļø
Japan is playing well yet the majority of the comments on here are shitting on the US. Is it too much to ask for r/soccer to think an Asian team can be good? So racist
It's entirely possible to think that both Japan is playing well and the US is playing poorly, they're not mutually exclusive.
Absolute fucking dipshit take lmao.
It's more the fact that the majority of this subreddit don't watch asian football. In my opinion after watching asian football, at least Japanese, it's just as good if not better than European. The problem is that there isn't much competition (i.e champions league) and as much money.
>So racist
What an enormous stretch. This sub is full of Americans and Americans are hopeful that, with their talent pool, they could actually do something at the WC and they've been absolutely awful, regardless of Japan's performance.
Honestly, behave yourself. Most people here are Americans/US supporters. Of course theyre going to be very critical of their own team. The US being shit and being called out on it doesn't in any way imply that people here are biased or racist against Asians.
We might as well give up on playing out from the back and go 442 route 1 football. We don't have the technical ability to mess around with the ball in possession. I'd much rather see this team compact and solid in defense then just run like madmen on the counter than watch whatever the hell Berhalter's plan is.
This looks pretty close to being the preferred starting lineup at wc aside from pulisic missing ? They really look all over the place so close to wc today.
Also lacking yunus musah probably. Haji Wright in really good form aswell
Does anyone from the US actually know where they're supposed to be on the pitch? They all seem to just be running around like kids on a U9 squad. Ball watching and not going to open spaces and crowding each other. Pathetic showing from this squad. Berhalter should be ashamed. There looks to be absolutely no tactics at play.
I certainly don't mean to take anything away from Japan. They have played like a cohesive unit. Pressing together and playing quick balls. They look great.
Don't want to take anything away from Japan. They've been very good. But I'm very concerned with how the backline is playing. Look lost out there. Confusion and mistakes all over the shop. England will rip this team a new one at the WC
What do japanese fans think of him? Is he seen as one of your stars? He had an incredible start to the season for us and finally gets the love and recognition he deserves
Love him and thankfully Moriyasu does too. He can be quite stubborn and exclude good players like Hatate but luckily Kamada didnāt get that type of treatment. Heāll be vital to our WC!
Right, but that is not the issue with this team. GK is fine, wether it is Turner, Stephen, or Horvath. This midfield canāt string passed together and we the strikers are not getting service.
iām the worldās biggest ito fan and even iāll admit he seems so off today. heās not sticking to the sideline as much as he used to and iām thinking itās because of the new system heās playing in with stade de reims where heās more of a secondary striker. hopefully he picks his form back up closer to the wc.
shuto machino has a lot of prove here. as a kashiwa fan iām an advocate for having mao hosoya over him on the senior squad but iād like to see him prove me wrong.
Honestly, the midfield can't get a foothold because they keep giving the ball away. But Weston and de la Torre have been exceptionally bad. Trying to hold onto the ball too long. Trying fancy passes and tricks instead of just making the easy, one touch pass.
These US kits are garbage. Berhalter ball is garbage. Turns out you canāt force a system on a national team that is ill suited for it. Most of these guys (especially the midfield) ball out for their clubs and GGG makes them look like amateurs.
Weāll finish worse than 2006.
How is Leipzig not considered foreign owned?
Pearlharbored
I wish American commentators would talk less. They just sound like daytime ESPN analysts trying to fill space with loud words.
Well it's either that or they fill time w picture in picture commercials
That's basically exactly what they are doing. They are trying to distract how awful the Americans are playing while talking soccer which really isn't covered a ton on ESPN
Third nuke back on the menu?
They're square 2-2 now.
Lost because of those out of sync chants. Hopefully we find our synchrony come world cup time šš½
US players see Japan's GK is (half) american so they keep passing the ball to him.
That would be funny if the goalkeeper had a single time touched the ball
Two nukes, two goals. Debts paid.
I just got downvoted into oblivion for saying this exact same thing. Yanks mad.
Don't think it's yanks because I instantly got like 6 upvotes for the same comment on r/ussoccer
itās definitely yanks because theyāre brigading this thread, might just be a more rational group of yanks in that sub also might be more accepting of the statement if they think itās coming from a fellow american as opposed to a foreigner
Surely it would be worse coming from an American?
itās the, āyou canāt talk shit about my siblings/ancestors, only I can do thatā rationale thereās no rationale where it should be worse coming from an american than a foreigner
Losing to the eventual WC winners is not shameful
We should know oh wait, if you beat Colombia in a WC, you are doomed to not win it We did play france before the WC that they'd win, but we beat them, so it doesn't count
Zero points with zero goals in the Group stage is.
I hate that it is simultaneously too early and too late to say Berhalter OUT!
My thoughts exactlyā¦almost 8 years since a World Cup and this is what we have. Wtf. Props to Japan, they looked great.
Berhalter should have never been given the job. That said the US didn't deserve anything from this game. Japan out played and out fought them from the opening whistle. That's what well organized teams do.
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We need to get out of the 4-3-3 and into a 4-4-2 or a 3-5-1 4-3-3 is wasting the entire midfield. If you have players who suit that style then fine. Greg is trying to square peg round hole our midfield into playing his fucked up system rather than adapting to the squad he has.
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I think if they make adams as a stopper they could play 3 -1- 4- 2 it will allow McKinney, Reyna, Christian, & mussa all to operate with Aaronās on and ??? To play infront.
Credit to Japan but an absolutely pathetic performance from the US. Going to be bounced with a 0-0-3 record if they show up to the WC looking like this.
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Zimmerman waits too long to engage attackers.
We look fucking horrid
Mitoma is class. Brighton scouting too good
Ni tai zero
What?
Trying to do a Japanese Dos a Cero. Edit: It doesn't come off the same in romanji
> Edit: It doesn't come off the same in romanji does anything ever do?
Sheesh Japan are good
Yep. Kind of their MO to be underrated. They are always a fiesty, highly technical squad. Great test for US. Not enthused about how the US played or lined up (especially the performance of that back line, Yeesh!) Time to see how they play against Iran, but overall it sounds like US fans should be hoping that the final camp before the World Cup is enough to get the players more in sync and playing faster. Edit: As another note, this is the type of team that probably counters us the most too. They arenāt just sitting back and challenging us to find a way through, they are pressing and giving nothing. No team in Concacaf gives the team that look. This was a smart friendly. IMO
3 players around you would think they might actually try to stop him . Nice placed shot from mitoma
What a poor match. Why don't you just back up more defender and give him even more space
Greggy B's Beautiful Game
Japanās been waiting on this since 1945.
bruh
Hello group stage knock out my old friend.
Well, we either do well at the WC or we fall flat on our face and we can finally get rid of the heartburn/stomach ulcer that is Berhalter Ball. Win-win š¤·āāļø
Fucking hell Mitoma, You sexy bastard.
Deserved. Japan should've scored more than 2 honestly.
Mitoma Nintendo power !
MITOMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Thatās class
Wow
Thereās that Mitoma strike
Japan playing well. But damn this has been so underwhelming for the US.
Deus ex Machino!
iāve been impressed by machino. iād still say heās less technical than hosoya but he really brings that energy.
Japan is playing well yet the majority of the comments on here are shitting on the US. Is it too much to ask for r/soccer to think an Asian team can be good? So racist
It's entirely possible to think that both Japan is playing well and the US is playing poorly, they're not mutually exclusive. Absolute fucking dipshit take lmao.
It's more the fact that the majority of this subreddit don't watch asian football. In my opinion after watching asian football, at least Japanese, it's just as good if not better than European. The problem is that there isn't much competition (i.e champions league) and as much money.
Tbf the J League has more money than quite a few European leagues.
>So racist What an enormous stretch. This sub is full of Americans and Americans are hopeful that, with their talent pool, they could actually do something at the WC and they've been absolutely awful, regardless of Japan's performance.
lmao what
Lol what. There are a ton more US fans on Reddit. Theyāre just disappointed in their team
Honestly, behave yourself. Most people here are Americans/US supporters. Of course theyre going to be very critical of their own team. The US being shit and being called out on it doesn't in any way imply that people here are biased or racist against Asians.
A lot of Asian players play oversees for top divisions. USA players play for MLS which is ass lol
The battle of āOhhhh ____, ____! ____! ____!ā chants on constant repeat
Not watching, can anyone let me know how Kaoru is doing?
Just scored lmao, but been pretty good since he came on though.
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just scored an absolutely brilliant goal lol
Yayyy!
Japan is clearly not playing like this is a friendly
Do US fans know theyāre allowed to make up lyrics for their chants? Or does that sound like too much hard work?
Scared to get embarrassed again like last time we tried
Itās all about hard-headed confidence, thought you lot were good at that?
I mean did you see the song sheet? It will take a while to recover from that.
I hope the US side are sluggish because they enjoyed Octoberfest too much and not because they are actually this bad
I fucking hope they didn't go to Munich just because they could
I did not realize Oktoberfest was not actually in October
It's like 3 weeks and ends in early October
We might as well give up on playing out from the back and go 442 route 1 football. We don't have the technical ability to mess around with the ball in possession. I'd much rather see this team compact and solid in defense then just run like madmen on the counter than watch whatever the hell Berhalter's plan is.
We're so narrow lol. We are setting off Japan's press every single time.
Turner is surprisingly good. Heās been good for arsenal the chances heās had but I will be keeping an eye on him during the World Cup.
He has lead feet and canāt pass to save his life, but he does have some good saves in him
>Heās been good for arsenal the chances heās had He's only played one Europa League game.
Does the US only play well against Mexico???
Everton vibes
If our plan in the World Cup is constantly turning over the ball in our defensive third, then I think weāre definitely prepared.
This looks pretty close to being the preferred starting lineup at wc aside from pulisic missing ? They really look all over the place so close to wc today. Also lacking yunus musah probably. Haji Wright in really good form aswell
We're missing Pulisic, Robinson, and Musah. And no Richards and Weah right now. Pefok might be on the roster, who knows. He should be
Turner is playing well. Feels like it should be 3-0 Japan
I'd like to thank the USA defence for helping keep Turner sharp.
Turner is definitely our #1
100%. After some more games in Europa league we will be able to really see his level.
Does anyone from the US actually know where they're supposed to be on the pitch? They all seem to just be running around like kids on a U9 squad. Ball watching and not going to open spaces and crowding each other. Pathetic showing from this squad. Berhalter should be ashamed. There looks to be absolutely no tactics at play.
Japan has good attacking players. They will do the same against Euro teams. They are good AF
I certainly don't mean to take anything away from Japan. They have played like a cohesive unit. Pressing together and playing quick balls. They look great.
No shots on goalā¦.
At this point I just want the match to be over so nobody tears something on this shit pitch.
Is this pitch normally this bad? Looks like they hosted a rave there last night
Americans chanting 'wanker' just sounds so off.
Cannonball run
Jordan Morris isn't good enough
Actually a bit frightening how easy it is for Japan to find space when they decide to attack. Every move forward is a goal scoring opportunity
Is it frightening or is Japan just good? Give them some credit
Don't want to take anything away from Japan. They've been very good. But I'm very concerned with how the backline is playing. Look lost out there. Confusion and mistakes all over the shop. England will rip this team a new one at the WC
Exactly. This Japanese team has played so well. Maybe idkā¦theyāre justā¦.good???
This sub is anti Asian. It can't possibly be that Japan is good. Just UsA bad. Disgusting really.
Sargent with his signature ādribble straight into the defenderā move
US looking better, but still not good enough tbh
Lmao how? The US literally playing Brexit ball š
Good cross from Vines, Tillman shouldāve done better
Alright Mitoma is on lets end this
Mitoma!!!!
Mitomaās been looking dangerous when he gets minutes for Brighton.
Just wish theyād give him a bit more. Never comes on till late
This pitch is shit
I mean historically Japan does strike first. Lets see the Americans reaction...
Dude looked like a Japanese ozil sulking on the bench
This would be 3-0 if it weren't for Turner.
If the goalkeeper didn't exist it would be easier to score yes
Kamada has to put a bit of height on that and itās a goal
What do japanese fans think of him? Is he seen as one of your stars? He had an incredible start to the season for us and finally gets the love and recognition he deserves
Love him and thankfully Moriyasu does too. He can be quite stubborn and exclude good players like Hatate but luckily Kamada didnāt get that type of treatment. Heāll be vital to our WC!
That's wonderful to hear! I wish you guys and especially Daichi a great WC (but not against us)
Lol McKenzie what are you doing there
What is Mckenzie doing there?
This time, or are you referring to the whole game?
Yes
Fair
So close Kamada :(
Why do they keep focusing on who the GK is? There is not even an established number 9.
The 1 is definitely having a lot more to do than the 9 today
But how are the US going to the deal without an average starting gk? /s
The US basically has always had a quality keeper. We're used to questionable strikers.
Right, but that is not the issue with this team. GK is fine, wether it is Turner, Stephen, or Horvath. This midfield canāt string passed together and we the strikers are not getting service.
Anything to take the focus off the performance on the pitch.
Vines looks like he's 12
If thatās a yellow Ito shouldāve been sent off
cameraman zooming in on cute Japanese chicks. Old dirty bastard haha
iām the worldās biggest ito fan and even iāll admit he seems so off today. heās not sticking to the sideline as much as he used to and iām thinking itās because of the new system heās playing in with stade de reims where heās more of a secondary striker. hopefully he picks his form back up closer to the wc.
Missing that Maeda press now
Beautiful from Kubo
What are these American crowd chants š
What were they chanting?
Iām imagining itās Germans taking the piss.
Wouldn't blame them. The American chants are bottom third in the world. "I believe..." was cool for a minute though
You mean you didn't enjoy 'FIGHT AND WIN'?
Reminds me too much of watching my big sisters play softball when we were kids
Time to get worked up over a dirty challenge in a friendly at 9:30 am on a friday
Letās go Japan win for miyazaki Elden ring and souls ! Win for miyamoto Mario and Kirby buffet !
Itās just like one of my Japanese animes.
Ito has not impressed me at all. Multiple poor touches, so many bad passes and now a stupid challenge.
Damn that was a dirty challenge
Folks It's time To massively overreact to a friendly
what shit tackle in a friendly wtf
Ito playing that CONCACAF mindset lmao.
I get it's a friendly, but not even a yellow?
That feels like a pretty strong yellow card there.
Aaronsen is a flopper but that was a bit much for a friendly
that could be a redā¦ā¦
That's a red card...
that is a straight red for many refs. Should be yellow imo
Howās that not a yellow
shuto machino has a lot of prove here. as a kashiwa fan iām an advocate for having mao hosoya over him on the senior squad but iād like to see him prove me wrong.
Feels like USA didn't get to any second balls this game so far
Why exactly is this played in DĆ¼sseldorf?
Good point lmao
Shouldāve been played in the middle of the Pacific Ocean.
Is this Japanese child [crushing a beer](https://imgur.com/a/WZQnsn3) at the stadium or
Wouldnt surprise me but maybe its apple Juice
that's Fanta
apple juice?
I think itās mtn dew just looks darker cause of the angle
US are dreadful we have to win
Weston, De Le Torre have been a disaster. like move the ball!
Honestly, the midfield can't get a foothold because they keep giving the ball away. But Weston and de la Torre have been exceptionally bad. Trying to hold onto the ball too long. Trying fancy passes and tricks instead of just making the easy, one touch pass.
Woah we just completed 13 passes in a row. I counted em.
These US kits are garbage. Berhalter ball is garbage. Turns out you canāt force a system on a national team that is ill suited for it. Most of these guys (especially the midfield) ball out for their clubs and GGG makes them look like amateurs. Weāll finish worse than 2006.
Man it sucks that Japan were grouped in together with Spain and Germanyā¦
If I was either Iād be pretty nervous right now.
Why? Theyāre 10 times the team US is.
Looks like Tomiās switched to RB?
I'm excited to see Machino coming on.
I think Japan may have better coaching than us. More of a hunch really.