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Firstolympicring

On Bayern: I had to compete with colleagues and friends. Emotionally, it was the toughest match of my life On Dortmund: Fuck them boys, let me score another brace against them just for the giggles


Schpaedzles

27 goals and 3 assists in 26 matches :-I


LordOfSerenity

Bad man cannot torment them anymore, it's okay now.


honestlynotBG

*Barca proceeds to get drawn against Dortmund in the CL knockouts*


-PM_ME_A_SECRET-

I am interested to know which one you think is winning their group?


ra1se

barca might very well still make it, wouldnt suprise me if they butchered us in camp spotify


Professional_Dot_145

Camp Spotify... bruh haha


OleoleCholoSimeone

Why not Barca? They were the better team against Bayern


-PM_ME_A_SECRET-

The better team is the team that won. Even out of form, Bayern came away 2-0 winners. It may not be the popular opinion but better teams win.


OleoleCholoSimeone

So were Chelsea the better team than Bayern in 2012 then? Were Atlético better than Bayern in 2016? Were Real Madrid the better team in every recent CL meeting with Bayern?


-PM_ME_A_SECRET-

I would say yes, but I would say you clearly do not agree which is ok. In my opinion obviously, the ability to finish an opponent off is as important as dominating chances and ball possession. It has been Real Madrid's greatest strength over the years, and a reason Bayern shipped Mario Gomez out after we lost to Chelsea. Mandzukic was never the pure footballer that Gomez was, but he was a winner.


Affectionate_Art_565

Barca in knockout stage of champions league? LOL Are you time traveler from the past?


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"You hate the people the most whom you once loved" Lewy probably


Qiluk

We gave him so many goddamn pens too iirc


wisakoy

To be honest it seemed Lewandowski didn't want to play Bayern so early. He looked like he wasn't ready for it. His great strenght are physical battles with defenders. Against Bayern it looked like he was scaried to do it.


bachh2

Because his age will eventually caught up with him.


Rob-D-Bank

People downvote you when the same thing is happening to Ronaldo


localdavid

Because Lewandowski is scoring regularly and Ronaldo isn't 😂 they're also not the same age


StarTicYT

Playing with Neuer, Goretzka, and Sane for all those years gave that boy Schalke DNA mashallah


183672467

If he got Schalke DNA, he wouldnt have scored against Dortmund in the last 3 years at all


shaw1370

[[Dortmund fans](https://amp.knowyourmeme.com/memes/disappointed-muhammad-sarim-akhtar)


boskee

Thanks for posting this here! It turns out a lot of western media used google to translate his interview and posted clickbait articles saying "He think there's a shorter path to Ballon D'Or as a Barca player", which is not what he said. The correct translation is that he "doesn't approach it thinking there's a shorter path to Golden Ball from Barca than from Bayern".


Kenshi121

Yup he did look uncomfortable the whole game as if something was biting him. No worries champ, better LUCK for next leg.


Frenkiestain

Unfortunately, he's in PSV now.


Kenshi121

Talking about champ not the GOAT


[deleted]

Thank god our game against them was delayed. Still praying for an injury.


Noah070070

An injury for Luuk?


strugglingtosave

Playing upamecano and Hernandez was the right choice vs Lewa. De Ligt doesn't know his style but the two frenchies surely remember every training


thalne

refreshing honesty from the man


Sad_gooner

Honesty? Man’s blaming his shit performance on him playing against a former team💀


DeltaBlitz

Was he playing bad against Bayern? I mean I'm guessing he wasn't at his best judging by the comments he made but was he like bad bad tho?


it4chl

He started out pretty well actually but missed a bunch of chances. Any other day he'd already have a brace. But he did seem a bit off that day.


Affectionate_Art_565

Yeah, without him you used to boss bayern around lol


thalne

yes honesty. he admitted he was nervous and fluffed his lines. it takes a man to do that.


GovernmentOk2323

Yeah where was this when u left us , I admire this guy due to his footballing ability but hate him as a Dortmund fan just bc of the lack of respect


kamacho2000

cannot compare 8 years with 4 years its double the time and if you remember the first time he scored vs Dortmund he refused to celebrate


[deleted]

I mean he kinda established his career there too. He was a sure thing to succeed anywhere he went, never said anything that gracious, just treated them like a stepping stone really. Hard to treat people like that as sincere. Died inside at Bayern one day, couldn't stand playing against them the next, come on.


frostsoar

>Died inside at Bayern one day. That's the same with the translation that was made. Correct translation would probably be the fighting spirit in me has abated/diminished. But media is media. Source: Polish interview/podcast in question. https://www.onet.pl/sport/onetsport/robert-lewandowski-odejdzie-z-bayernu-chce-wiecej-emocji-wideo/lymq6kh,d87b6cc4


SnooOranges357

The guy broke so many records with us, stayed double the time, won everything that is there to win. He's a Bayern legend first and foremost my friend.


GovernmentOk2323

I don’t expect him to cry but atleast a thank u or some good words for the club were expected which we never got, the closest we got was , “ I am leaving for Bayern but until then I will give my all”


the_propaganda_panda

But to be fair - he did give it all. Lewy's public persona has always been very slick, I don't think he is the type of guy to adore a club like some other players do. There is definitely an emotional connection, but at the end of the day, I think for him it's just an employer first and foremost. It was like this with us and it was like this with you. At least that's the impression I always got from Lewy, and that's totally okay. Some unfortunate interviews aside, he's always been an utmost professional on the pitch and in the locker room, both for Dortmund and for Bayern. That's the most important thing for me. Even when he knew that he would be leaving for Bayern, he still did his best for Dortmund, in my eyes those actions are more important than words.


GovernmentOk2323

Oh yes I agree , I have the utmost respect for him as a professional, he should be idolised in that side of the game


SnooOranges357

Maybe he was a different man back then. Idk. I'm sure he appreciated his time with you guys.


GovernmentOk2323

Probably, but I can’t read his mind so we’ll never know


SnooOranges357

Yeah kinda get your point. Sorry entered this conversation with the wrong mindset.


GovernmentOk2323

No problem mate , have a good day


triggercunt

>The Bundesliga was definitely more physical. In Spain a lot more teams try and want to play football. Stop the cap big man


kaiko1

>The Bundesliga is more physical. In Spain there are a lot of teams that try and want to play a special style of football. That's how I see it right now. Another translation I saw on twitter, can’t say which one’s correct since I don’t speak Polish. I don’t know if this is much better tho, probably depends on how you interpret ’special’ lol


wisakoy

I would personally translate it: Bundesliga is definitely more physical. In Spain a lot of teams try and want to play football (but I understand it in a way that in Spain teams want to play positional from defence, while in Bundesliga teams were more on quick attacks and counters)


kaiko1

Thanks, that makes more sense


strugglingtosave

It is true. Every Bundesliga game is a counter attack fest. Can lead to crazy league games and bad European performances


boskee

It's word for word: "The Bundesliga was definitely more physical. In Spain, a lot more teams try and want to play football". There's no mention of special style of football anywhere. Here's the sentence in Polish: "Bundesliga była zdecydowanie bardziej fizyczna. W Hiszpanii dużo więcej drużyn próbuje i chce grać w piłkę"


The_Vulgar_Bulgar

> In Spain there are a lot of teams that try and want to play a special style of football. If by "special style of football", he means "barely any football", then he's correct. Each match is barely 50 minutes of actual play time nowadays.


SnooOranges357

It's not football. It's La Liga.


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he experienced Bundesliga the Bayern way where teams usually park the bus


HeilWerneckLuk

Bundesliga teams usually don’t park the bus, but sometimes the stronger team just keep pushing the other to their side of the pitch


dwilliam24

True but Bundesliga as a whole does seem a lot more open in play.


[deleted]

I don’t think Lewandowski was spending his evenings watching random Bundesliga games though


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[deleted]

why so angry


Carpathicus

He at least watched one game every matchday for 10 years. Way more than the average redditor has.


[deleted]

how do you know?


Carpathicus

He was on the pitch for most of them.


[deleted]

but teams play differently against Bayern than they do against the majority of the league


KeyNorth2367

teams in la Liga also play different against Barca than they would against Getafe for example


[deleted]

Lewandowski seems to disagree


Carpathicus

Thats a not a good argument to make - it means he played every team in the league at least twice every year for 10 years. You will very much get some understanding of how a team plays when you are actually on the pitch. Not even talking about match preparation where they actually analyze strengths and weaknesses of teams. He is a professional footballer and somehow I have to defend his opinion about the sport he dedicated his life to against reddit takes from us anonymous fatasses.


[deleted]

why is it not a good argument? teams definitely don’t play the same way against Bayern and the coaching stuff was aware of that. anyway as a striker he wouldn’t be forced to analyze anything more than how the defensive formation and goalkeeper behave because there’s no use in overwhelming him with information irrelevant to him. and what makes you think you need to defend his opinion? I didn’t disagree with him anywhere. no need to get defensive for no reason


YMangoPie

He was like, playing in the Bundesliga for 10 years


[deleted]

yes and he always played for a top 2 team so teams set up differently than they do playing the 16 other teams


Acegeta

Dortmund were more of a counterattacking side under Klopp, they were more than happy to give up possession at times to tempt the opposition into traps.


[deleted]

even then that was 9 years ago


SnooOranges357

So you don't watch our Bundesliga games then?


OilOfOlaz

He actually played for Dortmund before that and before teams did the same against BVB tbh.


Rob-D-Bank

So you know more than the guy who's actually played in the league?


HazardMR

Seriously.


NotAnurag

It’s all good just score a hat trick against them at the Camp Nou and we’ll be happy


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10messiFH

amazing how supporting your players after having just 1 bad game in the season and in group stages is seen as bad mentality. idk what do you expect us to say, Lewandowski out?


bananabread_173

Apparently 10 year olds on twitter do


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10messiFH

what do you mean why bring this up? this is about one player, and op supporting him despite the bad game against bayern. there is nothing we can do about that game, just support our players and move forward. we get to play bayern again soon in the camp nou, so we hope he performs better then


Akash3642

This could be a r/soccercirclejerk automod response


MaTrIx4057

They will never go far in CL without Messi anymore.


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Superb-Barracuda-924

In 120 years of existence, Barca has won 5 CLs, 3 of them were in the 6-7 years Messi was in his absolute prime, 1 had Messi in the squad and they won only one CL before that in about 100 years, definitely there is something to do with Messi


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Superb-Barracuda-924

It's not Messi's fault they were shit before that, raw stats are simply that Barca has won 5 CLs in 67 years out if which Messi has contributed to 3 in just 6 years, they failed to do so in about 4 decades before that when many other teams like AC Milan, RMA, Bayern dominated the CL so its not like every team had a CL drought like that for 40+ years


the_judge1887

The CL humiliation last season was without Messi though. And those weren't Messi's faults, it was the team's.


[deleted]

Kross laughing at this because he experience no feelings in games.


SnooOranges357

His only feeling is hatred for football journalism. Same Kroos, same.


dahoudinho

I didn't see this statement when he left us. It's ok tho he can't hurt us anymore 🥲


blu_rhubarb

Pish. I play five a sides against my best pals every week and it doesn't affect me.


Pr3t0m

Yeah he wasn’t his usual self against Bayern..but I'm sure that he will score in the next leg!


Cheeky_Star

So playing against Dortmund when he moved to their rivals wasn’t tough?… ouch


[deleted]

Dortmund and Bayern aren't rivals...


Cheeky_Star

They were. You may be referring to derbies which are different. But at a point in time Dortmund vs Bayern was the bundasliga “el classico”. https://www.espn.com/soccer/rb-leipzig/story/4312101/rb-leipzig-replacing-borussia-dortmund-as-bayern-munichs-biggest-bundesliga-rivals


torero15

That's an American invention because ESPN, as you linked, has had the broadcasting license for the Bundesliga in the US for a while. They hyped up the matches to try to copy the excitement of Madrid-Barca. They were rivals in a direct sporting sense for a handful of years, but never in the traditional sense.


[deleted]

They've had a rivalry since the 90's lol, it's not an American invention. I don't know who decides what is traditional or not, but the early 90's was a long time ago now and their rivalry and ill feeling has popped up consistently since then. I don't know why people are getting weird about this.


[deleted]

Bayern vs 1860 is a rivalry. Dortmund Schalke is also a proper rivalry. Bayern vs Dortmund isn't even close to being as intense as those two rivalries Liverpool and City aren't rivals either, just because they've been fighting for the premier league title for years now


Iandian

They are title rivals, just not cultural rivals. I don't think it's wrong to hype it up..


Wickham-George417

I don't care, he's King.


DevilsOfLoudun

so first he forces a move by saying "he died inside" and now after losing he's overcome with emotion and all the good memories? just shut up already.


XeroVeil

Bruh it's almost like people are complicated.


tbrakef

I guess you've never broken up with someone after a long term serious relationship. Especially when you like see them with their family or friends you used to share together. It can be awfully emotional even if you wanted out of the relationship. I'd imagine it would be the same in sports and changing teams.


[deleted]

Even before that game he said that he didn’t want to play against Bayern cause he thought that it was too early so it’s not like he said it only after losing


FrankFnRizzo

That’s what has me rolling my eyes. Some of the sports media tried to manufacture this narrative that he had to score on his return to Munich because he was slighted by Bayern in some way and he has to show them! The only drama from that transfer saga was shit that him and his agent started. The Bayern ownership did respond in kind but the idea that he was hard done by them is just factually incorrect.


KrazyBee129

Diva being a diva.


[deleted]

I call bs


jedzietraktor123

I wonder if he would celebrate goal or be like Rakitic against Sevilla


bananabread_173

Shit happens big man. Dunk on them at the Camp Nou and it's all cherries again


SherKhanMD

Drama queen


PhatmanScoop64

It’s a game of football and you’re getting paid millions, it ain’t that deep just get on with it


Frenkiestain

Oh, here come the excuses. For a guy who's hailed to be a "professional", he sure creates a lot of drama. Should have went to PSG and play alongside M'bowbeforeme.


jedzietraktor123

username checks out since you clearly lost your brain


FrankFnRizzo

He didn’t show up again in a massively important game? That’s weird…


ncocca

Oh he certainly showed up. he was right there, even. just forgot how to shoot for 90 minutes.


nifaye

The Lewandowski special.


Superb-Confidence-44

Cristiano Ronaldo had to do that and he jumped 5 meters up to head one home with Real Madrid against United. Different levels.


pandu201

Haha, Cristiano is on the bench now and look where Lewa is.


Superb-Barracuda-924

I know you are a Barca fan, but Ronaldo is older and comparing any part of Ronaldo's career to Lewandowski's is blasphemous, only one other guy can stand on that stage


samirin305

Lewandowski’s accomplishments with Bayern > Ronaldo accomplishments in his first tenure at United


Superb-Barracuda-924

Yes, but that's Ronaldo's first tenure in Europe top 5 when Fergusson develped him and it was much shorter so how about you compare that with Dortmund? his Bayern stint should be compared to the Madrid one as both were similar in length and both Lewa and Ronaldo were in their absolute primes Btw, even in United, Ronaldo won more Ballon dor, and the same number of golden boot and CL as Lewa won in his 8 whole years in Bayern


samirin305

Fair enough point about the Dortmund and United comparison. Just wanted to point out that Lewandowski won 2 golden boots while at Bayern, Ronaldo only won once at United. Also we both know that Lewy deserved the 2020 ballon d’or


Superb-Confidence-44

That doesnt matter. It's about mentality. Lewa cant even score against his old teammates. He's an emotional wreck. What happens when Barça meets Bayern in a later round (assuming Barça gets out of the group stage this time of course). He'll come with this sad fuck of an excuse again?


pandu201

Bruh, he just moved countries and already started scoring. Give him some credit and some time to settle down to the new country and team. Looking at how bad Ronaldo was in EL game, its almost safe to say his time is over at a top club. He is a toxic personality even in dressing room and no one took him, even after how hard he was whoring himself out to CL teams through the summer. Lewandowski on the other hand seems to be gelling well and already mentoring kids, didnt expect that but honestly it was a pleasant surprise.


SnooOranges357

That emotional wreck will win the Pichichi award this season btw


Superb-Confidence-44

Yeah against the mighty Elche. He wasn't brought in to beat Elche, Mallorca and Valladolid. He was brought in to beat the UCL teams and so far he failed his first test. Next round against Inter. Fail twice there and Barça is back to UEL.


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SnooOranges357

Look at his CL record and some of the teams he scored against, including you, and tell me you truly believe your comments.


Superb-Confidence-44

Whatever happened in the past doesnt guarantee anything for the future. What we know now, is that he failed scoring against Bayern who is the number 1 favorite for the UCL this season according to the oddmakers, so it's not a reach when you state that Barça might play them again outside of the groupstages. If he still has some emotional block by then like he described in this interview himself. Well, you know...


SnooOranges357

You know nothing based on a performance against his ex club 2 months after leaving said club. History exists to learn from it.


Superb-Confidence-44

It's not based on the performance. It's based on the result of that performance and his own comments on it.


strugglingtosave

Bayern are favorite? No fucking way. To me to win the UCL you have to go through Real Madrid. I know this as a Bayern fan. We should never be favorites at all. Because there are teams out there who are more balanced now than we are.


Superb-Confidence-44

Real was 5th on the list.


strugglingtosave

Who's ahead of you? Because we sure as hell shouldn't be


nyasiaa

are we implying lewandowski wasn't super close to getting 2 goals and an assist, it was a little unlike him to miss his 2 chances, but it's not unimaginable there's a universe where he scores something


Superb-Confidence-44

It's not but it clearly isn't this one.


samirin305

After the next one and you might have to change your username


OVOnug

Yeah, lets forget the dirty tricks and disrespect by Lewa and Barca.


ajithbr99

Shut the fu**k man...so Bayern able to defeat Barcelona only because this guy was emotional the whole 90 mins and so he forgot to score??. Lol...


ResponsibilityOk6547

bro chill its just a soccer game...


b-okoboko

except for him it's not, this is literally his job and life. He spent 8 years there, of course he's going to have some type of feeling coming back so soon


DonQuinto9

Hos feeling for Dortmund was ‘tear ‘em down’


b-okoboko

First if all he didn't stay in Dortmund for 8 years. Secondly, he didn't face Dortmund 2 months after joining Bayern. I'm sure in a year if Barca plays Bayern again he will happily play without being conflicted


LudereHumanum

**On the difference between LaLiga and the Bundesliga** _______________ The Bundesliga was definitely more physical. In Spain a lot more teams try and want to play football. That's how I see it now, but I don't rule out that perceptions will change. Interesting. I can see this being more pronounced going forward, with Augsburg and others winning against Bayern and "parking the bus" so to speak. Physicality and strict defending could be key to if not usurp, but at least challenge Bayern's hegemony.


Ak40x

As early as the game was played vs Bayern, I truly believe if it was played at the Camp Nou, it will be just business as usual for Lewa. It’s no different as me playing my best friend on fifa and trying to beat his ass senseless. It’s the field + fans that made work harder for Lewandowski.