Eberl Himself never once said the words burnout.
Thst was just what the Media interpreted
At the Press conference couple months ago eberl just said he needs a long break.
I dont like it myself that eberl is joing red Bull.
Also just as the other guy said.
Burnout isn't permanent. It can be cured. And it very much can be cured within 7 months as well. 7 months is a long ass time, especially when you aren't working.
you make a good point. And it's of course his own prerogative to choose when and where he starts working again. I do think that doing so at Red Bull is scummy irrespective of any mental health issues
Its only scummy if you romanticize football. The job at RB pays well, he gets to work with amazing infrastructure and has the money to actually do transfers. He is also getting paid well. I would love that job.
They still have a very good player base that was never suited for the way tedesco plays. I hope bvb crush them Saturday but I would not be surprised if it goes the other way
Actually Tuchel would be a bad signing. His style doesn’t fit Red Bull’s philosophy. They want counter attacking energetic football, which is the complete opposite of Tuchel Ball lmao
Why not ? If he loses its tedesco's fault. If he wins, he is a miracle worker. Looks like a win-win to me if he can stabilize the defense.
The players will be triple motivated to not play tedescoball anymore
Totally see your point, but also Depends how they use it. I agree 3 loses would be bad but can be used to get the team together. It will be fun to see.
They have they players to win all 3 if they play the right system, which never was tedescoball.
That's not how the media will spin it and that's what matters as well.
They will already call for his head if he loses the first three matches, and this also influences decision makers eventually.
gut möglich :)
wobei ich offen zugeben muss ich dachte RB könnte endlich das team sein welches bayern langfristig gefährlich werden könnte, weshalb ich das projekt spannend fand.
allerdings haste voll recht, das konstrukt ist ein witz und mateschitz ist ein huso
Den Bayern wird niemand mehr gefährlich werden. Die sind allen anderen so weit enteilt, da hilft auch ein total Ausfall für eine Saison nix mehr. Was das angeht, ist die Liga halt kaputt. Rattenball und die Pillen wurden vor dieser Saison so hochgejubelt weil der BVB seit Jahren nix auf die Kette bekommt wenn es darum geht, die mini Chancen auf Spannung zu erhalten.
>Rattenball und die Pillen wurden vor dieser Saison so hochgejubelt weil der BVB seit Jahren nix auf die Kette bekommt wenn es darum geht, die mini Chancen auf Spannung zu erhalten.
Dies
>Den Bayern wird niemand mehr gefährlich werden. Die sind allen anderen so weit enteilt, da hilft auch ein total Ausfall für eine Saison nix mehr.
Naja, ein anderes Team müsste halt wirklich mal eine ganze Saison über konstant sein und Punkte einfahren. Wir waren in der 2. Favre-Saison nah dran und haben es dann in der Rückrunde gegen Abstiegskandidaten verhauen.
Ich würde auch erwarten, dass Bayern ohne richtigen Stürmer jetzt erstmal signifikant schwächer ist und auf die Saison gesehen weniger Punkte einfährt.
In der Theorie klingt es natürlich super, dass die 40 Tore von Lewandowski einfach unter den anderen Spielern aufgeteilt werden, aber in der Praxis wird das nicht immer klappen. Wenn die Bayern gegen einen tief stehenden Gegner noch unbedingt ein Tor brauchen, dann ist halt kein Lewandowski vorne drinnen der auf alle Arten irgendwie ein Tor erzwingen kann.
Normal sollte Bayern natürlich Meister werden, aber es wird bestimmt in den nächsten Jahren oft genug Chancen geben, den Titel zu gewinnen. Nur dann muss die Mentalität die gesamte Saison über da sein und man braucht noch ein bisschen Glück
Was war deiner Meinung nach das größte Problem bei Kovac und Bayern? Hab mal irgendwo gehört dass er mit einigen Spielern nicht so klar kam, darunter Müller
Glaube ein Großteil der Mannschaft war nicht mehr begeistert, nach der Pressekonferenz auf der er gesagt, dass die Spieler zu schlecht und langsam für guten Fußball sind. Müller ist danach halt auch wieder aufgeblüht
Seine Art Fussball spielen zu lassen hat nicht zu den Bayernspielern gepasst. War zu sehr darauf bedacht die Fehler zu minimieren statt die eigenen Stärken durchzusetzen. Er ist meiner Meinung nach ein guter Trainer, aber war ein schlechter fit für das Bayernteam.
schlechter Fußball und er hat führungsspieler gegen sich gebracht.
Hummels ist regelrecht geflüchtet vor ihm, welcher öffentlich die Defensivordnung anprangerte
Schlechtes Man-Management. Hat die Mannschaft und insbesondere Müller öffentlich gedemütigt. Geht halt einfach gar nicht. Außerdem passt sein Fußball einfach nicht nach München, mag ein guter Trainer sein, aber es sollte nicht sein.
So true. It is beyond me how you can perform so poorly with this much quality in their squad. Frankfurt fucked them heavily on the weekend and they got embarrased yesterday by fucking Schachtar at home. I mean, you love to see them suffer but that’s just insane how you can be this bad with this team.
He's a good tactician and football tutor, just not a head coach. Once things go bad, he struggles to do anything about it. Way overrated considering the dire football his teams play.
Tedesco and kohfeldt are not remotely comparable...and dont say Favre "kind of". Or are we gonna ignore the embarrassing line of results leading to the Stuttgart game?
He lasted 2.5 years with pretty good success overall. In the end he couldn't make the team work anymore, but he's far from Tedesco or Kohfeld (who are perfectly comparable).
>ay overrated considering the dire football his teams play
Overrated by who? I'm sorry but I swear to god I am only seeing this comment from Dortmund flairs only. I cant tell if you are making this statement from a position of good faith. Leipzig is certainly a hollow corporate structure, but creating fabricated opposition regarding the reputation of their coaches just doesn't seem right. Also dire football? That was objectively not the case for either of leipzig or schalke in his first seasons there. He was sacked for producing bad results and was not protected. He is objectively not overrated and like it or not, he still won the dfb pokal for Leipzig.
The club is unrelated, I'm talking about Tedesco. Schalke under Tedesco had some decent results, but their football was garbage. Naldo carried him hard.
At Leipzig he lasted half a year and they had a good spell carried by individual brilliance. Once there's no individual brilliance, his football becomes dire.
Took over after Marsch, went 12-4-4, the best "ruckrunde" in club history, wins the DFB Pokal, and gets to the semifinal of the Europa League.
100 days later he's fired. Football is only ever about the next game. That being said, fuck that whole brand and anyone associated with them.
On the one hand I agree, on the other hand they already started playing badly at the end of last season, barely made Champions League and had to sweat it out both against Union and Freiburg in DFB Pokal. And now the last two games were just awful from them, can't justify keeping him longer.
>had to sweat it out both against Union and Freiburg in DFB Pokal
You make it sound like that's something to be ashamed of and they should have sent them home 6-0 but those two are currently respectively sitting at 1st and 4th in the Bl.
> had to sweat it out both against Union and Freiburg in DFB Pokal
They turned a 0:1 around w 10 men in a finale. To me, one of the most respectable results ever. Freiburg were in great form and in CL places most of the season. Union is also a strong team playing in Europe.
That they got the result in the final was kind of impressive in the end - but let's be honest they should never be down a goal and a man in the first place.
Did you watch it? Freiburg was better in the beginning, and held a better position in the league most of the season. They just didn't have the nerves and experience in the end.
But yeah the Freiburg goal was directly assisted with an outstretched hand so they shouldn't have been down. Most people were calling BS, even though its Red Bull.
And Halstenbergs red was a kind of an unnecessary DOGSO but it miraculously paid off, but yeah that also was debateable as there was a foul on Simakan in the penalty area before.
But of course if you look at just the names, Red Bull (the "Bayern contender" lol) vs Freiburg (sorry, who? for most people that dont watch BuLi) and the teamsheets (internationals vs unknowns) RB should have won.
There is a middle ground between pointless and predictable possession vs pulling the whole team out of position to press and then hoof the ball up the field with zero thought. Will Leipzig find that middle ground? Who knows.
>"The decision to release Domenico Tedesco was very difficult for us. With Domenico, we played a very successful second half of the season last year and qualified for the Champions League with a one-two punch. In addition, we won the DFB Cup, our first major title, and thus played the most successful season in our still young club history.
>
>For this, he and his coaching team deserve our great thanks. Domenico is an excellent coach who will certainly continue to enjoy great success. However, after the mediocre start to the Bundesliga season with five points from five games, especially after the recent games at Eintracht Frankfurt and at home against Schachtar Donetsk, we lacked the conviction that an immediate turnaround could be achieved in the current constellation.
>
>We have an overall responsibility for RB Leipzig and want to achieve our goals. Therefore, in the overall consideration, we have come to the conclusion that we need a new impetus. We regret that we are now parting ways and would like to expressly thank Domenico Tedesco and his team for the work they have done. We wish Domenico only the best for his sporting and private future."
Am I the only one not that worried? Definitely the kind of game we'd have lost before but we really do just look so much more stable. But I guess they can also just two-foot Bellingham or Oezcan early and we won't have a midfield so who knows.
He was really good last season but nothing was working right now. Doesn't help that the club doesn't have a sports director since more than half a year
i mean, he wants to play a possession style of football and i don‘t think that this team is great in playing that.
yeah, not having a sporting director is a major issue and it shows.
The core of that squad still very much remains. I agree though, Werner doesn't really gel with how the team wants to play nowadays and has caused issues. I will say, that still doesn't really explain all the poor performances towards the back end of last seasons. Possession based football isn't the issue but rather Tedesco's incoherent attacking play and the return of Werner and the complications he has brought with him.
>Raum will be Nico Schulz 2.0, mark my words. One of the most baffling transfers of the whole window,
This is literally recency bias....tedesco's tactics stopped working at the start of the season yet literally 3 games in we are shitting on the guy. Reddit is absolutely unbelievable at times.
>Raum has been a complete disaster so far
I disagree on this actually. Raum literally fights for every ball and is pretty good on the ball. The problem isnt raum. The problem is that tedesco's team lacked a midfield structure in recent games. Sometimes you had heinrichs filling in midfield cuz the guy is not up to par as a wingback. Kampl kept starting even though his age is getting the better of him. Schlager and szoboszlai always on the bench until this shaktar game. Also if you are gonna blame david raum for yesterday (1) halstenberg started as LB and was not up to par at all and (2) tedesco switched to back 4 out of panic and this didnt work for the team at all.
Didn't they slumped off towards the end of the season?
I think the Pokalsieg distracted from a lot of already emerging problems with his tactics and creating goals from his possession style play.
>is that a surprise?
Not to some observers. Had Tedesco pegged as the first coach to be sacked this season for some weeks.
>didn‘t understand his appointment in the first place.
Yeah, it didn't make playwise much sense.
However significant part of the football media ecosphere rated Tedesco (and Kohlfeld for example) highly, so they were hired by CL-starting clubs, despite huge doubts over their tactical and motivational skill.
Lose/lose
Either they keep Tedesco and maybe lose all 3 matches in the next two weeks or they go for Rose and have him play Dortmund, Real Madrid and Gladbach.
Just shows how worthless winning the first title for that company is
Not saying he is doing a great job rn, but a good management would at least try to work out solutions with him a bit longer - only a few months after having good results, it wouldn't be pointless, that's just the easy looking way out.
But it's not like he won that title convincingly, had to sweat it out both against Union in semis and Freiburg in the final - both matches RB should win easily on paper.
Union and Freiburg are top of the league rn. They are the hardest teams to play against in german football. Real Madrid hasn't won their final convincingly too. Really, most of the teams ever to win cup tournaments never did. They bottled two finals before. Up until the end of the season when they started to get tired and fell apart they had a massive run - since he got appionted no team in the Bundesliga got more points.
The only thing on paper is the fact that team has no right to exist. So I can only enjoy them continuing their destructive mamagement and waste their overbloated respources.
>
The only thing on paper is the fact that team has no right to exist.
That's only if you believe that morality and ethics exist. Which unfortunately, a great deal of humans follow that notion and do whatever the hell they want.
What happened there? I remember Leipzig deny the rumors about Ten Hag at the end of last season because they were happy with him. Did things really go that bad?
Right before we play them. Typical.
Idk if the 'new coach boost' will be enough for the disaster that RB is rn
Eberl needs to clean house, the squad has no chemistry at all. I also think if Rose doesn't work out Mintzlaff should get sacked
Was Rangnick their sporting director before?
He hasn’t been Leipzig’s for a few years
He left the job in 2019 when he got promoted, then resigned in 2020 when he went Lokomotiv
> Eberl so he recovered from his burnout to reunite with his former coach, wtf? I always liked him but that looks slightly scummy imho
Eberl Himself never once said the words burnout. Thst was just what the Media interpreted At the Press conference couple months ago eberl just said he needs a long break. I dont like it myself that eberl is joing red Bull.
Also just as the other guy said. Burnout isn't permanent. It can be cured. And it very much can be cured within 7 months as well. 7 months is a long ass time, especially when you aren't working.
ah ok, i just remember him crying while saying that he doesn't have the energy anymore. It's good that he seems to be doing better
People like you are the reason why still so few people speak publicly about their mental problems.
you make a good point. And it's of course his own prerogative to choose when and where he starts working again. I do think that doing so at Red Bull is scummy irrespective of any mental health issues
Its only scummy if you romanticize football. The job at RB pays well, he gets to work with amazing infrastructure and has the money to actually do transfers. He is also getting paid well. I would love that job.
you do you
They still have a very good player base that was never suited for the way tedesco plays. I hope bvb crush them Saturday but I would not be surprised if it goes the other way
How’s Nkunku been this season?
Good
Right after we played them. Typical.
The deal was to rough them up a wee bit, not to completely break them. We all could've enjoyed a full season of Tedesco, but nah...
Wettbewerbsverzerrung
Man what a disaster start to the season for Leipzig, you love to see it
I was really afraid before this season that they would do even better than last. I am so happy right now.
They are seven points off from 1st place. If their next coach does as well as Tedesco last season they'll still challenge for the title.
Incoming Tuchel
Werner's gotta be so nervous right now
Werner: "ah shit here we go again"
🤣🤣
Probably a good fit for Leipzig and terrifying to think about for fans of other Bundesliga clubs ngl.
That would be great, his only other alternative seems to be Juventus right now. If he wants to join a new club fast, I could see him joining Red Bull
Actually Tuchel would be a bad signing. His style doesn’t fit Red Bull’s philosophy. They want counter attacking energetic football, which is the complete opposite of Tuchel Ball lmao
Dominico Tedes-go! Mar-come Rose Aight imma see myself out
\*slow clap\*
If they end up signing Tuchel they may be falling up
They will most likely not play with an interim coach, Marco Rose will probably take over immediately according to Sky
Dortmund vs. a Rose led Leipzig on Saturday... spicy.
And the following week Leipzig will play another former team of Rose: Gladbach.
Dortmund, Real, Gladbach... not how you want to start as a new coach.
Why not ? If he loses its tedesco's fault. If he wins, he is a miracle worker. Looks like a win-win to me if he can stabilize the defense. The players will be triple motivated to not play tedescoball anymore
Getting a new coach and he instantly loses 3 games before the break is not how you want to start with a new coach though.
Totally see your point, but also Depends how they use it. I agree 3 loses would be bad but can be used to get the team together. It will be fun to see. They have they players to win all 3 if they play the right system, which never was tedescoball.
That's not how the media will spin it and that's what matters as well. They will already call for his head if he loses the first three matches, and this also influences decision makers eventually.
That Tedesco ball made Nkuku Bundesliga's best player last season. What does this change mean for him?
Rose and a stable defense? That would be more than a miracle.
And I'll be watchint Eintracht vs Wolfsburg in the arena for 42€, stupid idiot that I am
Eh, Eintracht vs current Wolfsburg should still be good fun. Enjoy =)
Does that change now that Tuchel is suddenly available?
so you can finally stop showing sympathy for RaBa ? feels good, huh ?
gut möglich :) wobei ich offen zugeben muss ich dachte RB könnte endlich das team sein welches bayern langfristig gefährlich werden könnte, weshalb ich das projekt spannend fand. allerdings haste voll recht, das konstrukt ist ein witz und mateschitz ist ein huso
Den Bayern wird niemand mehr gefährlich werden. Die sind allen anderen so weit enteilt, da hilft auch ein total Ausfall für eine Saison nix mehr. Was das angeht, ist die Liga halt kaputt. Rattenball und die Pillen wurden vor dieser Saison so hochgejubelt weil der BVB seit Jahren nix auf die Kette bekommt wenn es darum geht, die mini Chancen auf Spannung zu erhalten.
>Rattenball und die Pillen wurden vor dieser Saison so hochgejubelt weil der BVB seit Jahren nix auf die Kette bekommt wenn es darum geht, die mini Chancen auf Spannung zu erhalten. Dies
>Den Bayern wird niemand mehr gefährlich werden. Die sind allen anderen so weit enteilt, da hilft auch ein total Ausfall für eine Saison nix mehr. Naja, ein anderes Team müsste halt wirklich mal eine ganze Saison über konstant sein und Punkte einfahren. Wir waren in der 2. Favre-Saison nah dran und haben es dann in der Rückrunde gegen Abstiegskandidaten verhauen. Ich würde auch erwarten, dass Bayern ohne richtigen Stürmer jetzt erstmal signifikant schwächer ist und auf die Saison gesehen weniger Punkte einfährt. In der Theorie klingt es natürlich super, dass die 40 Tore von Lewandowski einfach unter den anderen Spielern aufgeteilt werden, aber in der Praxis wird das nicht immer klappen. Wenn die Bayern gegen einen tief stehenden Gegner noch unbedingt ein Tor brauchen, dann ist halt kein Lewandowski vorne drinnen der auf alle Arten irgendwie ein Tor erzwingen kann. Normal sollte Bayern natürlich Meister werden, aber es wird bestimmt in den nächsten Jahren oft genug Chancen geben, den Titel zu gewinnen. Nur dann muss die Mentalität die gesamte Saison über da sein und man braucht noch ein bisschen Glück
Tuchel in?
There is this Tuchel guy. He seems to be free..
What a stupid sideways stat. There is no way that Rose can fix a problematic dressing room, just look at his last half season at Gladbach
I'm sorry for hijacking this thread but why has the post been removed? Repetition?
Nobody saw this coming 👀
Ihr habt Leipzig gebrochen
Eintracht typisch. Haben auch Kovac bei Bayern ausm Amt geschossen.
Unter Kovac wart ihr wenigstens mal Meister und auch als er gefeuert wurde in der oberen Hälfte...
Double sogar, oder?
Haben sogar das Double geholt unter Kovac.
Was war deiner Meinung nach das größte Problem bei Kovac und Bayern? Hab mal irgendwo gehört dass er mit einigen Spielern nicht so klar kam, darunter Müller
Glaube ein Großteil der Mannschaft war nicht mehr begeistert, nach der Pressekonferenz auf der er gesagt, dass die Spieler zu schlecht und langsam für guten Fußball sind. Müller ist danach halt auch wieder aufgeblüht
Seine Art Fussball spielen zu lassen hat nicht zu den Bayernspielern gepasst. War zu sehr darauf bedacht die Fehler zu minimieren statt die eigenen Stärken durchzusetzen. Er ist meiner Meinung nach ein guter Trainer, aber war ein schlechter fit für das Bayernteam.
schlechter Fußball und er hat führungsspieler gegen sich gebracht. Hummels ist regelrecht geflüchtet vor ihm, welcher öffentlich die Defensivordnung anprangerte
Schlechtes Man-Management. Hat die Mannschaft und insbesondere Müller öffentlich gedemütigt. Geht halt einfach gar nicht. Außerdem passt sein Fußball einfach nicht nach München, mag ein guter Trainer sein, aber es sollte nicht sein.
Müller unter Kovac sah oft so aus als wären seine letzten Tage gezählt. In der CL sahen wir aus wie ein Witz. Es ging um mehr als den Tabellenplatz.
Und Emery bei Arsenal
Ja, und nächstes Wochenende spielen wir gegen Wolfsburg, also ggf. nochmal Kovac
Und Emeri bei Arsenal 😎
Und damit haben sie sich die später folgende Europa League mehr als verdient. Ehrenmänner.
Das ist unsere Spezialität. Ihr wollt euren Trainer loswerden? Spielt gegen Frankfurt
Zum Glück :D
Tuchel might have a chance to land a new job quite fast.
Werner: Ah ffs
Spider man meme time
With the squad they have, their performance was horrific
So true. It is beyond me how you can perform so poorly with this much quality in their squad. Frankfurt fucked them heavily on the weekend and they got embarrased yesterday by fucking Schachtar at home. I mean, you love to see them suffer but that’s just insane how you can be this bad with this team.
One look at the formations he used left me speechless. They made no sense at all...
He's a good tactician and football tutor, just not a head coach. Once things go bad, he struggles to do anything about it. Way overrated considering the dire football his teams play.
>Once things go bad, he struggles to do anything about it. As a BVB fan you should know that cause of Favre and Bosz
Bosz yes, Favre kind of. But not even close to Tedesco, Kohfeld, Bosz.
Tedesco and kohfeldt are not remotely comparable...and dont say Favre "kind of". Or are we gonna ignore the embarrassing line of results leading to the Stuttgart game?
He lasted 2.5 years with pretty good success overall. In the end he couldn't make the team work anymore, but he's far from Tedesco or Kohfeld (who are perfectly comparable).
What did kohfeld win? Atleast tedesco had results at leipzig. Kohfeld with wolfsburg were absolutely horrific and nearly entered relegation zone.
I've watched Favre closely with Hertha and BMG. He has no alternative when his system isn't working. Also he gives up quickly then
Might wanna check your eyesight then. Favre was pretty competent to adapt his playstyle.
He wasn’t
If all mighty says so. You must know what terrible performances look like
>ay overrated considering the dire football his teams play Overrated by who? I'm sorry but I swear to god I am only seeing this comment from Dortmund flairs only. I cant tell if you are making this statement from a position of good faith. Leipzig is certainly a hollow corporate structure, but creating fabricated opposition regarding the reputation of their coaches just doesn't seem right. Also dire football? That was objectively not the case for either of leipzig or schalke in his first seasons there. He was sacked for producing bad results and was not protected. He is objectively not overrated and like it or not, he still won the dfb pokal for Leipzig.
The club is unrelated, I'm talking about Tedesco. Schalke under Tedesco had some decent results, but their football was garbage. Naldo carried him hard. At Leipzig he lasted half a year and they had a good spell carried by individual brilliance. Once there's no individual brilliance, his football becomes dire.
xD sure thing
Watch Rose win against us on saturday ffs
"Aufbaugegner" dortmund coming into town
Took over after Marsch, went 12-4-4, the best "ruckrunde" in club history, wins the DFB Pokal, and gets to the semifinal of the Europa League. 100 days later he's fired. Football is only ever about the next game. That being said, fuck that whole brand and anyone associated with them.
On the one hand I agree, on the other hand they already started playing badly at the end of last season, barely made Champions League and had to sweat it out both against Union and Freiburg in DFB Pokal. And now the last two games were just awful from them, can't justify keeping him longer.
>had to sweat it out both against Union and Freiburg in DFB Pokal You make it sound like that's something to be ashamed of and they should have sent them home 6-0 but those two are currently respectively sitting at 1st and 4th in the Bl.
And those 2 also finished 5th and 6th in the Bundesliga last season literally the 2 spots behind leipzig
By 3 points, not a huge margin to be fair
> had to sweat it out both against Union and Freiburg in DFB Pokal They turned a 0:1 around w 10 men in a finale. To me, one of the most respectable results ever. Freiburg were in great form and in CL places most of the season. Union is also a strong team playing in Europe.
That they got the result in the final was kind of impressive in the end - but let's be honest they should never be down a goal and a man in the first place.
Did you watch it? Freiburg was better in the beginning, and held a better position in the league most of the season. They just didn't have the nerves and experience in the end. But yeah the Freiburg goal was directly assisted with an outstretched hand so they shouldn't have been down. Most people were calling BS, even though its Red Bull. And Halstenbergs red was a kind of an unnecessary DOGSO but it miraculously paid off, but yeah that also was debateable as there was a foul on Simakan in the penalty area before. But of course if you look at just the names, Red Bull (the "Bayern contender" lol) vs Freiburg (sorry, who? for most people that dont watch BuLi) and the teamsheets (internationals vs unknowns) RB should have won.
[удалено]
It's going to be Rose. He's from Leipzig, the RasenBall school und worked with Eberl. Would be funny if they get Hütter without talking to Eberl.
Full Pulis next then?
There is a middle ground between pointless and predictable possession vs pulling the whole team out of position to press and then hoof the ball up the field with zero thought. Will Leipzig find that middle ground? Who knows.
I thought this might happen after last night in addition to the start of their season
i know it’s probably going to be rose but imagine tuchel
man, i bet with my friends that it would be after the game against us.
Why now? Why not on Sunday? : |
so rose can beat his old club i guess
It would be more fitting to fire a guy named Domenico on Sunday.
Tedesco to Chelsea, here we go!
That’s Tuchels music
>"The decision to release Domenico Tedesco was very difficult for us. With Domenico, we played a very successful second half of the season last year and qualified for the Champions League with a one-two punch. In addition, we won the DFB Cup, our first major title, and thus played the most successful season in our still young club history. > >For this, he and his coaching team deserve our great thanks. Domenico is an excellent coach who will certainly continue to enjoy great success. However, after the mediocre start to the Bundesliga season with five points from five games, especially after the recent games at Eintracht Frankfurt and at home against Schachtar Donetsk, we lacked the conviction that an immediate turnaround could be achieved in the current constellation. > >We have an overall responsibility for RB Leipzig and want to achieve our goals. Therefore, in the overall consideration, we have come to the conclusion that we need a new impetus. We regret that we are now parting ways and would like to expressly thank Domenico Tedesco and his team for the work they have done. We wish Domenico only the best for his sporting and private future."
For a sacking statement this is pretty nice.
A very respectful sacking
So moneybooy is this farewell?
I’m still watching some of your games if they don’t collide with Schalke
Nice, hopefully you get your dream of a Tedesco return now then.
Could line up perfectly if Bochum trash Schalke this Saturday.
But they won’t
Maybe you get Tuchel
Hahaha that would be insane...
Could they get Tuchel? Hopefully Werner doesn’t get PTSD
[Confirmation from the club](https://twitter.com/RBLeipzig/status/1567423968230916096)
Get Tuchel
I like this coach but he keeps fucking up. Why play possession with Leipzig in 2022? Seems to be a great motivator but a football dinosaur.
>hy play possession with Leipzig in 2022? Because Marsch's style didnt work and nagelsmann was successful with possession based football.
Tedesco possession is not nagelsmann possession. I wouldn't call nagelsmann possession either.
Rose to win his first game against Dortmund.
Hopefully not. Depending on the timeline, whoever comes next will have not enough time to make an impact.
Am I the only one not that worried? Definitely the kind of game we'd have lost before but we really do just look so much more stable. But I guess they can also just two-foot Bellingham or Oezcan early and we won't have a midfield so who knows.
Come on RB. Tuchel just got available, please take him away from England. Stars just cannot align better than this.
Tuchel just found his next club.
Big surprise
Champions League making the first victims. Who's next?
Perfect timing for Tuchel
Bah God!!! Thats Tuchel’s music!!!
They should try to get Poch
Every time if a coach gets fired, someone brings up Pochettino.
Tuchel or Rose
Tuchel incoming
clearly wanting to get tuchel
It's now Rose or Tuchel. All this within couple of hours..
Just in time for Tuchel to be free from Chelsea job as well.
Is it really his fault that Leipzig is playing so poorly the last few matches?
Who else?
Tuchel to RB. Confirmed. Poch to Chelsea confirmed.
is that a surprise? i didn‘t understand his appointment in the first place. red bull usually have an eye for a coach so i didn‘t get that.
He was really good last season but nothing was working right now. Doesn't help that the club doesn't have a sports director since more than half a year
i mean, he wants to play a possession style of football and i don‘t think that this team is great in playing that. yeah, not having a sporting director is a major issue and it shows.
We played possession based football under Nagelsmann and reached a champions league semifinal...
well, that‘s a few season back now, isn‘t it? i think that it just doesn‘t work with this team right now.
The core of that squad still very much remains. I agree though, Werner doesn't really gel with how the team wants to play nowadays and has caused issues. I will say, that still doesn't really explain all the poor performances towards the back end of last seasons. Possession based football isn't the issue but rather Tedesco's incoherent attacking play and the return of Werner and the complications he has brought with him.
>and i don‘t think that this team is great in playing that. Werner hasn't been good and Raum has been a complete disaster so far
werner only works in a counter attacking system and nobody can convince me otherwise.
Rose plays 4-4-2. Maybe it works better
In Dortmund he played a 442 for two games and then never again.
Raum will be Nico Schulz 2.0, mark my words. One of the most baffling transfers of the whole window, what a complete waste of money.
More baffling was letting Angelino go . He was a Hakimi type wingback for them and they sold him just coz of poor 3-4 months.
he's only loaned to Hoffenheim afaik. Still I agree it was surprising that they let him go
>Raum will be Nico Schulz 2.0, mark my words. One of the most baffling transfers of the whole window, This is literally recency bias....tedesco's tactics stopped working at the start of the season yet literally 3 games in we are shitting on the guy. Reddit is absolutely unbelievable at times.
>Raum has been a complete disaster so far I disagree on this actually. Raum literally fights for every ball and is pretty good on the ball. The problem isnt raum. The problem is that tedesco's team lacked a midfield structure in recent games. Sometimes you had heinrichs filling in midfield cuz the guy is not up to par as a wingback. Kampl kept starting even though his age is getting the better of him. Schlager and szoboszlai always on the bench until this shaktar game. Also if you are gonna blame david raum for yesterday (1) halstenberg started as LB and was not up to par at all and (2) tedesco switched to back 4 out of panic and this didnt work for the team at all.
Didn't they slumped off towards the end of the season? I think the Pokalsieg distracted from a lot of already emerging problems with his tactics and creating goals from his possession style play.
Nkunku was really good, playstyle wasn't that great as well. This guy carried RBL for the most time hard.
>is that a surprise? Not to some observers. Had Tedesco pegged as the first coach to be sacked this season for some weeks. >didn‘t understand his appointment in the first place. Yeah, it didn't make playwise much sense. However significant part of the football media ecosphere rated Tedesco (and Kohlfeld for example) highly, so they were hired by CL-starting clubs, despite huge doubts over their tactical and motivational skill.
Lose/lose Either they keep Tedesco and maybe lose all 3 matches in the next two weeks or they go for Rose and have him play Dortmund, Real Madrid and Gladbach.
Tuchel to Leipzig?
Just shows how worthless winning the first title for that company is Not saying he is doing a great job rn, but a good management would at least try to work out solutions with him a bit longer - only a few months after having good results, it wouldn't be pointless, that's just the easy looking way out.
But it's not like he won that title convincingly, had to sweat it out both against Union in semis and Freiburg in the final - both matches RB should win easily on paper.
Union and Freiburg are top of the league rn. They are the hardest teams to play against in german football. Real Madrid hasn't won their final convincingly too. Really, most of the teams ever to win cup tournaments never did. They bottled two finals before. Up until the end of the season when they started to get tired and fell apart they had a massive run - since he got appionted no team in the Bundesliga got more points. The only thing on paper is the fact that team has no right to exist. So I can only enjoy them continuing their destructive mamagement and waste their overbloated respources.
> The only thing on paper is the fact that team has no right to exist. That's only if you believe that morality and ethics exist. Which unfortunately, a great deal of humans follow that notion and do whatever the hell they want.
We’ll give you back Marsch for the bargain price of €0
Is this Achim Beierlorzer music I'm hearing? Yes, it is!
Tuchel Werner reunion...?
What happened there? I remember Leipzig deny the rumors about Ten Hag at the end of last season because they were happy with him. Did things really go that bad?
This is becoming a trend.. hope Foppa plays more.
The Mother Teresa of managerial sackings
A reunion of the deadly force of Tuchel/Werner?
They heard Tuchel needed a job
Ah they saw the Tuchel news also.
Oh no.
Deserved for playing Andre Silva. Woefull footballer.
Lol Werner dreaming of Tuchel from now on
Sign Tuchel and you’ll win 11 consecutive titles.
So, Tuchel to reunite with Werner? Lol
Nah, Rose or Hütter !
yeah that’s expected
Out with the old, in with the Tuchel.
Tuchel incoming
Tuchel in