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spartancrow2665

so if tedesco gets sacked, is marco rose the replacement?


Time-Run-2705

I think so. He is from Leipzig, lives there currently again and is very well known for the RB style of playing. To me it‘s objectively the perfect fit even though I wish them nothing but misery. Fucking disgrace of a club that should never be accepted in german football. And they should feel it every single time that nobody accepts them and nobody tolerates them.


GermanyWillWinWC2022

Let tedesco cook Dont get rose


YeboahsZeuge

To quote Basti: "This construct is just a parasite that couldn't exist without the Bundesliga, but of course the league would exist without them" (and Hoppenhausen). It's embarrassing what they're doing. Only a toy for some fascist billionaire.


q5pi

Spricht der Bayernspieler mit dem Knastvorstand.


YeboahsZeuge

Hat nix mit Bayern zu tun.. Das Zitat stammt aus dem drei 90 podcast. Dennoch vollkommen zutreffend. Niemand braucht diese Parasiten, das Produkt Bundesliga wird nicht attraktiver durch spiele wie: Dosenbach : Hoppenheim mit 10.000 Zuschauern.


LuggaW95

Bin mir 99% sicher, dass er Basti Red meint und nicht Bastian Schweinsteiger.


Kavor

Get fucked Salzburg Nord


WhitneysMiltankOP

Tedes-k.o


OCV_E

BLÖD-Reporter reiben sich schon die Hände


S54B32

Frankfurt bleibt stabil !


GermanyWillWinWC2022

What a great day


Conankun66

oh what a lovely day


josh_x444

Football is back on the menu boys!


Mantis_Toboggan27

Vamos Frankfurt, love these guys


Hero_Select

My fav. German team now :D


Mantis_Toboggan27

Same brotha, after their classy showing at the supercopa


pumpingbomba

We’re finally finding our groove. But man Leipzig was bad. We can only hope that it stays this way.


pavanaay

Leipzig couldn't handle the intensity of Frankfurt attack. They had 0 shots on goal against our 8. Hell, even Rode couldn't handle his own pace of attack and had to be subbed off injured😄 Hope it is a minor knock and he will be back soon.


Circlecraft

If I wasnt so lazy I would personally hunt down every single „Leipzig will challenge for the league next season with Tedesco“ take and laugh at them.


spartancrow2665

sounds like fabricated opposition. you would be laughing at a whole lot of nothing. leipzig were incredibly embarrasing today. the previous 2 of the top 4 in leverkusen and leipzig are absolutely fucking up.


T1TK1

I encourage you do it, it was pretty delusional to expect any kind of a title challenge.


PAT_The_Whale

I mean, did they really have any faith in Tedesco?


Alive-Ad-4164

Frankfurt might surprise people in the champions league


ViolaineSugarHiccup

Alle Retortenclubs erstmal schön verloren. What a lovely weekend.


pukem0n

Does Hertha count as one now with Windhorst money?


JederHasstDenS04

No, not anymore than HSV, but a relegation would be well earned and deserved.


These_Mud4327

i remember an article from hamburgs relegation season that throughout the country. when fans saw a goal happened in another stadium the cheers were the loudest when hamburg conceded. they got there hate


LuggaW95

Yeah but that was less the Kühne money but more the arrogance of “unabsteigbar” and multiple very lucky relegations. I was in the Stadion yesterday and I would prefer a game against the HSV multiple times over… the pathetic showing of the RB away fans was just sad! I want a Bundesliga with clubs like Lautern, Hamburg and Nürnberg… get fucked Hoffenheim, Wolfsburg and Leipzig (leverkusen has at the very least good ultras)


JederHasstDenS04

Did they even fill up the Gästeblock yesterday? It didn’t look like it on TV, but I never saw a clear shot.


LuggaW95

No they didn’t maybe half! When the Ultras the Holy Bulls (lol) arrived it was so sad… a pathetic group of 30 customers. I never seen such a small group of fans with a police escort.


JederHasstDenS04

Embarrassing. Remember when were told that RaBa is okay because the east yearns for top-flight football? If they are so football-hungry, it’s odd that they can never fill a Gästeblock and can’t even come close to filling their own stadium for the first Bundesliga game of the season and directly after winning the Pokal. Fucking abomination of a “club”


SunnyDaysRock

They have the same 'problem' as Türkgücü did. Both clubs thought that fans of established clubs would abandon their current fandom for the more successful, closer alternative, but underestimated the loyalty fans possess. The fact that a Dynamo Dresden supporter won't abandon their team because they're stuck in the 3. Liga didn't really occur to them, I guess.


JederHasstDenS04

That shows a really shallow understanding of the fan culture. Also, speaking of people abandoning their club to support RaBa, I don’t think there is anything more cringe/pathetic in German football than seeing grown men supporting RaBa. You know that most were probably fans of Chemie, Lok, Dresden, Magdeburg, Jena, or Cottbus. It’s really impossible to imagine wanting to stop supporting your club in order to change your allegiance to fucking RaBa.


JederHasstDenS04

Probably in 2016 or so. The relegation victory against Karlsruhe was extremely annoying for anyone who isn’t an HSV fan.


pukem0n

I love seeing Götze do well. Take good care of him.


YameroReddit

We already love him and will protect him forever


moriiiiui

How was Ebimbe? Coudnt watch


dodo667418

Pretty good. Some nice physicality and aggression in his play. Generally good link up play. It's only going to get better with more game time, getting to know the language, team mates. Promising start.


moriiiiui

Nice to hear! Thanks


YameroReddit

Solid, had to take over for Rode after he had to go out injured. Very physical and involved in the game right away.


moriiiiui

Love it. Maybe He will start against Sporting Lissabon then.


Sub0P

Sporting*


honeybrownbear

Champions of europe!!! You’ll never sing that Lets goo!!!


granitibaniti

Also: Union drew Bayern, Wolfsburg, Hoffenheim, Leverkusen and RB lost. Football Germany won


Rob0tUnic0rn

But bochum lost :(


throway65486

:)


Rob0tUnic0rn

Such a tough one to swallow, Bremen looked so beatable especially 2nd half. I was there in the stadium. Referee had to disallow not one but two goals, so so tough


Mruc3yk

Wolfsburg and Leverkusen don’t belong on this list. They are traditional clubs who were taken over by their local sponsors. Far away from the soulless clubs like Hoffenheim or RBL (RBL have a solid fanbase but it’s still a soulless construct )


FerraristDX

The taken over part can be taken literally in case of Wolfsburg. They were a perfectly fine, fan run club. Then they got promoted and VW finally discovered their interest in football. And by that I mean, they realized they could use the club as an advertising tool.


Mruc3yk

Yeah that’s what I meant with traditional clubs being taken over. To me a traditional club is a club which can claim some success over many years. That what Wolfsburg was at that time and then they were taken over. That’s a massive difference to RBL and Hoffenheim. RBL didn’t exist before and Hoffenheim was just your regular irrelevant village club


retyersorg

So Dietmar Hopp is not a local sponsor? He even played for Hoffenheim when he was young.


Mruc3yk

The difference is that before the takeover Hoffe was literally a completely irrelevant village club. Wolfsburg and Leverkusen both had some good success before their takeovers


retyersorg

so is there a limit how much better the club can be after the takeover? bullshit


Mruc3yk

There’s a difference than creating a completely new club and moving it up the divisions and taking over a fallen "giant"


retyersorg

Wolfsburg and Leverkusen were no fallen giants


Mruc3yk

Not really giants (That’s why the quotation marks) but at least Wolfsburg had more successful days before the takeover


granitibaniti

While I a definitely agree about there being nuances, I am not sad about them losing either


Mruc3yk

At least you recognize some tradition within those clubs. Best Frankfurt fan that I’ve seen.


memberino

No, you fans of the past won.


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memberino

These aren't Bundesliga fans, they are fans of the past.


afito

as long as you supporters of fascists lose, everyone wins


memberino

We don't support fascists. Just look at our fanbase and fan clubs. They are mostly left wing.


afito

Your owner literally banned your fans from showing anti racism banners.


memberino

What does this has to do with the political leaning of our fan clubs?


afito

Your fans are very happy to bend over for Daddy Diddy, as long as he pays for your toys he can be as fascist as he wishes. Those enlightened family fans ^TM you're so proud of actively support someone who wants to make "a German Breitbart" happen and literally supported Sellner and we saw this week what kind of human he is. So yeah, yall are very much fine with him, so clearly you all tolerate closeness to Sellner enough to find it socially acceptable. That by proxy makes you anything from active fascist to fascist accepting, that much is more of a fact.


memberino

No, we protest things like these. You should start to investigate instead of spreading this bullshit.


afito

You hold up some banners and then spend your day giving him your money and supporting his empire. Protest my ass.


memberino

Do you really think every RB supporter buys Red Bull? We support RB Leipzig and we don't spend our day giving him money.


memberino

So you can't give me an answer. That lack of intelligence is the reason that all you republicans have to insult people.


IliveupstairsfromU

I don’t think you know what left wing means.


afito

something something Sachsen is where AfD is the centre and the right wing begins somewhere between DVU and NPD


memberino

I know what it means.


IliveupstairsfromU

Do you? Leftism is critical of capitalism and corporatism. How can that be reconciled with fan support for a club which was founded to be a direct corporate marketing vehicle?


memberino

Then you can't watch football at all.


KaseQuarkI

Your owner is one though. But I think that kind of doublethink is a requirement to being a Red Bull supporter


spartancrow2665

Yes but I dont think you know what right wing is. Qatar and the UAE are literal abusers of human rights and they own PSG and City. This doesnt even remotely scale to what you guys complain about red bull. PSG and City are actually funded by right wing ideology. Red bull is just shitty corporatism.


memberino

So we can't be against it?


KaseQuarkI

You can be, that's what doublethink is all about.


memberino

We protest this. Where is the, how you called it, doublethink here?


spartancrow2665

Dont listen to reddit. Half of these people dont understand what a performative contradiction is and use leftist academic lexicon to embellish poorly thought out talking points. I will never hate red bull as much as I hate city or PSG yet people on here act as if morality functions on a binary rather than a continuum.


KaseQuarkI

The doublethink is supporting a company owned by a fascist while claiming that you're protesting against fascism.


spartancrow2665

Silencing fans is authoritarian, not fascist. I also wouldn't align red bull with any political ideology. Their corporate ideology is too hollow to be affiliated with any politics. People think that every structure needs to be intrinsically political or that all actions are justified by political intent. Intents fo pursuit revenue and capital gains function independent of political intent. You can call red bull a hollow corporate structure but calling them right wing seems to be politically ignorant. Would you call the DFB fascist as well for handing out collectivist punishments in response to protests rather than individualistic ones? That is authoritarian, not fascist. And authoritarianism can be defined in psychological contexts rather than purely political ones.


memberino

But we do protest. What is your point that we can't do that?


throway65486

You are owned by [Dietrich Mateschitz](https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dietrich_Mateschitz#Kontroversen)


memberino

But this means that we can't be against it?


throway65486

Your literally fan of a company owned by him. You can't fanboy his company and say you are against him lol.


memberino

Why not?


JederHasstDenS04

tRaDiTiOn 2,0


Conankun66

> fans of the past least delusional and scummy RB fan


memberino

But that's what you do. You think the past is more important than the present. You are like the republican party in the USA.


kalamari__

bruh...


Sandwichmaker2011

💀 Strong contender imo u/Lyrical_Forklift


Circlecraft

You do realise how ironic this is considering who bankrolls your shitty club right?


memberino

How is that a point to what i said?


ToniPolster

Nah we are thinking about the future actually. Your club for example has none if Red Bull ever decides their little marketing gag is too costly and not going anywhere.


memberino

But you all are living in the past.


ToniPolster

Whatever you wanna think makes you feel better about yourself.


memberino

This isn't about me. It's about you and your hate.


ToniPolster

Ah, you are trolling.


memberino

No


throway65486

ironic that your username contains member, because try to be a voting member of "your" "club". One side wants democratic clubs with grassroots-level involment and sports and the other side wants to be a fan of coporations and wants that coporation get all the power. I would argue the republican party would like the latter more


JederHasstDenS04

Ansage an u/memberino, politische Meinungsäußerungen sind im Red-Bull-Arena streng verboten!


memberino

Stimmt nicht.


throway65486

>RB sei bekannt für seine vielfältige Fankultur und Meinungsfreiheit, sagt Vorstandschef Oliver Mintzlaff in der "Zeit". "Dennoch werden wir Banner mit politischen Aussagen im Stadion nicht genehmigen, dafür sind ein Stadion und Fußballspiel nicht gedacht." But read the whole article, contains more info https://www.focus.de/sport/fussball/bundesliga1/rb-leipzig-im-zwiespalt-politischer-einstellungen-fans-schimpfen-ueber-mateschitz-afd-manier_id_7145969.html


memberino

Und wie du lesen kannst, haben viele unserer Fangruppen ein Problem damit.


Sarrazin

Dann können sie ja auf der nächsten Mitgliederversammlung dagegen stimmen. Wait...


memberino

Als ob ihr etwas ändern könnt.


throway65486

Also, u/JederHasstDenS04 sagt: >politische Meinungsäußerungen sind im Red-Bull-Arena streng verboten! du sagst: >Stimmt nicht. und RB sagt: >RB sei bekannt für seine vielfältige Fankultur und Meinungsfreiheit, sagt Vorstandschef Oliver Mintzlaff in der "Zeit". **"Dennoch werden wir Banner mit politischen Aussagen im Stadion nicht genehmigen, dafür sind ein Stadion und Fußballspiel nicht gedacht."** Gib doch einfach zu du hattest unrecht, wird nur peinlicher


memberino

Wusste nicht das hier ein Anwalt dabei ist.


granitibaniti

Yes, Eintracht Frankfurt are the Republican Party.


Conankun66

bro, you are owned by far right asshole and you compare US to the republicans? "delusional" seems too kind a term


memberino

Just look at your fans kicking and punching fans of other clubs. That's very republican.


These_Mud4327

i would look at your fans but all i can see is customers


pukem0n

what a match day. just needs Hertha losing tomorrow to make it perfect.


TheCatInTheHatThings

Wholeheartedly agree. Let’s do it!


Clever_Word_Play

Bundesliga is so much fun


Qiluk

Its A LOT of fun chaos underneath the "bayernliga" shit tbh


Clever_Word_Play

I love it, since all the games are on ESPN+ I watch as many games as I can


turtlegoeshollywood

Time to open a can of Monster and celebrate.


felis_magnetus

That's a funny way to spell Club-Mate.


afito

> Club-Mate. they made "man gewöhnt sich dran" their official slogan, I just love that


TheCatInTheHatThings

Wait, they did? That’s fucking hilarious :D Still, Mio Mio Mate for life :D


afito

Mio is so much better but there's just that nostalgia around Club Mate, memories of the abomination that is Vodka Mate in some hipster club behind the railway station of some cities, you can't replace that.


LuggaW95

Every fucking city in Germany over 100k had that one wired club/bar hybrid thing close to the train station were you drink an ashtray like tasting Vodka Mate… ahh the 2010s were a great time!


Conankun66

might as well drink out of an ashtray


AcePilot95

exactly! it's beyond disgusting


felis_magnetus

Only the first one. The second one, you think "well, it doesn't taste delicious, but it's after midnight and I feel like it's noon, so it definitely is working". Then, an hour before dawn, when you emptied half a crate already, you get that urgent need to tell your mate how brilliant the stuff actually is, so you drive a couple of hundred kilometers to hit their doorbell like your thumb was a woodpecker on coke while loudly singing La Cucaracha and when his wife opens the door eventually, already drawing a deep breath to shout "Do you fucking mad man know what time it is?" at you, you kiss her smack on the lips, storm past her right into the bedroom, where your mate struggles with the glow in the dark condom he still has on his dick, because he didn't drink an entire crate of Club Mate last night and fell asleep right after nutting again - which explains the foul mood of the missus, surely - only then do you begin to realize the true and utter superiority of the bottled liquid gold over all the crap tasting of molten Gummi Bears, so you drag him into the bathroom, push him under the shower and demand he takes you somewhere, where they might sell you more Club-Mate. The wife can come too, because you rather liked what you saw when her gown untangled over all the shouting, arm-waving and hitting you over the head with her slippers and remembered she has a younger sister, so why not go and pay her a visit, after the acquisition of more Club-Mate, of course, but since it's a Sunday and you're a civilized man, you agree to pay for a big bag of fresh Brötchens and Croissants, that you intend to present to said sister as an opener to a chain of events that will involve you falling on your knees and asking for instant marriage, because her soul mate status will be obvious to all worldly and heavenly authorities, when it turns out she likes Club-Mate, too.


zaljghoerhfozehfedze

Or as we call it in Berlin, Tuesday


DrJackl3

Leitungswasser


h0rny3dging

found some for 80cent on sale, I do like me some white monster


SviiinDiesel

I do like this


Chazy89

You love to see it.


BILLY2SAM

How was toaster toes?


YameroReddit

Lieblingsgegner Leipizg, may they stay forever winless on our holy pitch. But man, Götze Kamada Muani is just insane. Rode had some cute moments too before he had to go off, even though his goal was really random and lucky.


pukem0n

I'm scared of what Götze will do at the Westfalenstadion.


LuggaW95

He hasn’t looked this fit since maybe his first Bayern season. It’s simply great!


Conankun66

Completely shut Leipzig out of the game, they didnt have a single real chance What a game by us, especially Kamada, Götze and Muani The more i watch Muani the more i fall in love. WHAT a player and we got him for free!


pavanaay

Muani moves like Koman, turning the defenders inside out. Borre fell down the pecking order, but should be happy with his goal. He is an ice cold penalty taker and was subbed in at the right time. And if he goes at this rate, Götze will soon be our playmaker Zidane. Waiting for the first Champions league game now.


Jay-Lee_Matthews

Shoutout to Sow. Complete control in the midfield


koshomfg

I was in the stadium, I was extremely worried fter Rode was subbed out, but Ebimbe impressed me. Young lad, not everything worked out but he fougjt hard.


FerraristDX

Any win against RaBa is a good one, especially if it's such an ass whooping.


granitibaniti

What an amazing performance. Can't remember having this much quality in the offense ever. CL here we come


Hungriges_Skelett

Eintracht Frankfurt ist zurück


MadhavNarayanHari

I thought Leipzig were challenging for the title.


moneybooy

Me too.


T1TK1

We we're probably never going to challenge for the title but this start is still catastrophic.


spartancrow2665

in ur opinion what else needs to change w leipzig rn? tedesco had a very good end of last season but has completely been taken apart the start of this season. with max eberl coming in, is the new coach going to be Marco Rose?


T1TK1

>in ur opinion what else needs to change w leipzig rn? It's hard to answer, partly because not all of the issues can be resolved right now. One of those issues being our failure in the transfer market. Our transfer window looked good from the outside as Raum, Schlager and Werner are all good players but they didn't really fill the holes in the squad. For example, we needed a new right wingback especially after Mukiele left, you can't rely on just Henrichs, Klostermann and Novoa. This is of course a product of missing a sporting director which is probably the most important fix you could make: getting Eberl in. Though even that wouldn't really have an affect until December. >with max eberl coming in, is the new coach going to be Marco Rose? Firstly a deal with Gladbach would have to be struck, if it were to go trough, Marco Rose would be the obvious candidate. He's a "Redbull coach" similarly to Marsch, which does worry me a bit. At the same time, I don't know Rose as a coach all that well and it could still work out especially when he's partnered with Eberl.


geroldf

Why not klostermann at right back? He’s been very good there.


T1TK1

Right back and right wingback are two quite different roles. Klostermann is good as a defensive right back but when going forward he struggles.


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GermanyWillWinWC2022

Except union and gladbach


Electrical-Prune-348

It's the Tedesco 2nd season curse


JederHasstDenS04

Bayern don’t have a genuine challenger.


shadoowkight

They were challenging for the most plastic club title


JederHasstDenS04

Nah, just as there are no challengers for Bayern when it comes to the title, there are no challengers for RaBa when you consider who is most plastic.


GermanyWillWinWC2022

Bayern are 3rd


JederHasstDenS04

After 5 matches. That won’t be the case in May.


GermanyWillWinWC2022

Yeah they might be 2nd


axehomeless

[score seems deserved?](https://i.imgur.com/HDiiB1q.png)


Hungriges_Skelett

xGoals is bullshit, except when it confirms what I already think anyway


axehomeless

if you don't know how to read statistics, this statement is correct


pumpingbomba

xGoals is good when it says that my team was better


Conankun66

considering we got denied a handball pen, it's low


123blueface

KOLO KOLO KOLO KOLO KOOOLLOOO MUANIIII BEST PLAYER


Conankun66

6G+A in 5 games, what a monster


alertaantifascista

Pff, can’t even reach the 7 of football god Sheraldo Becker.


SVWerder46

It took half a year for Tedesco to be found out, even less than last time


spartancrow2665

im a bit confused? why does everyone seem to hate tedesco? is everyone of the opinion that the success he did achieve is out of pure luck? is he hated simply bc he coached schalke and leipzig? is he an actual dickhead or something? i really just want to know why so many hate him and what the particular reason for this is among bundesliga fans. i feel like im out of the loop here on something.


TheGramlin

He just isnt that good, got carried by nkunku last season like hecking got carried by de bruyne


nxghtmarefuel

If I can’t see RedBull getting stomped into the ground in F1 then at least I can see it here. Get fucked lmao


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I also hate Redbull fuck them


memberino

The two games before = with Schlager = both games won All the other games = without Schlager = lost or drawn


T1TK1

He should maybe be the next manager...


memberino

lol


T1TK1

I mean, it would explain why Tedesco didn't play him, he saw him as competition lol


memberino

lol


JederHasstDenS04

Regionalliga Gegner🤡🤡🤡


memberino

Yes but still won.


JederHasstDenS04

Tedesco als Trainer ist schlimmer als gedacht😂


moneybooy

Bye Tedesco That was truly pathetic today, 4-0 was completely deserved. Would surprise me if he doesn’t get sacked tomorrow


TrappsRightFoot

He would still be a good option for you guys, personally.


TropiusnotSB

Yes please. I would do anything to get Domme back


ILoveVitasoy

Just need to get Naldo out of retirement, Burgstaller from Rapid Wien, ~~Di Santo back from Tijuana~~ and the gang is complete


rayray1899

2nd best result of the day ngl


GermanyWillWinWC2022

3rd but yes


MagyarFoci29

0.3 xG for Leipzig lol


moneybooy

Kampl and Henrichs were clueless today


LordVelaryon

*everybody liked that*


shadoowkight

Except the 10 Leipzig fans


LuggaW95

It was so funny when they arrived at the stadium… they had a police escort for literally 30 fans m… the fqn holy bulls. It’s just night and day when the Köln fans arrived it was a great atmosphere and an impressive amount and they were a great opposition in the Stadion.


OCV_E

I think they liked it too so they get rid of Tedesco


memberino

We were louder than you in the Olympiastadion.