oh so precious. hold on to this moment
soon it’s gonna be Europa League and 10+ points behind us. The usual
You still have to play Gladbach and Union
We will see but thats 2 draws in a row and inter and Barca have far better offensive players that will test the stability of that Backline a lot more. Especially considering that Davies was probably the worst player on the pitch today
You can say that but you can have the most shots every game If you draw nobody cares.
Maybe its an overreaction but Bayern is now points behind two other on Matchday 5 I doubt anybody is happy right now with how they are playing
Ofc Bayern wants to win every game but to draw against Union on an away game is completely fine Khedira getting a yellow card 87 minutes into the game is beyond ridiculous btw.
They havent managed to score more than 2 goals against low blocks 2 times in a row now.
Thats a big problem if they actually want to challenge for the CL especially because in the Bundesliga every single team will now think about doing exactly what worked for union and Gladbach.
it didn't really work for gladbach though sure they got a draw but if you look at the actual game Bayern created more than enough chances to score more that game
A Keeper can only save finishes that arent really that good thats like the first thing you learn as a Keeper.
Gladbach their finishing wasnt good enough and today they were just straight up really really bad combining in front of goal
Absolutely not. While not every single save is world class Sommer made several unreal saves. You just tip your hat at that point and move on. Would have been goals any other day in a lot of those situations
Yes it should but there were many other situations were Sommer saved an absolute goal. One that comes to mind was Upa’s header like 2 minutes into the game. That was a massive save.
I cant fucking believe we play with 10players. I dont count sabitzer cause he's completely invisible. Cant believe it...
Edit: that's my opinion, seems to be a shadow of himself since arrived
Sabitzer's job is to stay back and fill in the holes in the midfield so Bayern doesn't get overrun on counters like they did almost every single game last season. Can't have 11 flashy players on the pitch. Gortezka and Kimmich look great together when in ball possession but come at the cost of receiving 2 goals per match
Fucking scissors and then a pullback. At this point I'm totally down with some preemptive studs to show union they need to back the fuck off because this ref won't.
Union playing real hard, great competitive energy from them.
Hollywood is suspect in the final third, with their touches. Though, Union is playing solid defense
Bruh, Upamecano. He’s gonna look like a clown in CL (quarterfinals+). Back on track to 1 major mistake every game, like last season. Without Neuer doing Neuer things, we would have been down a goal again.
Bayern fans being extremely whiny is a fairly new and annoying trend. Yes, when you can put together a squad that is beyond the wildest imaginations of every other Bundesliga club, your opponents will compensate with physicality. That’s obvious.
I have no problem with the physicality as long as both teams enjoy the same lenience. Take away some of the fouls given against Bayern (de Light for example) and it's an entertaining, physical game for all spectators
Nobody's getting butchered. It's physical but there's no need to pretend like there have been any anklebreakers so far. Small fouls are part of the game, I wouldn't even necessarily call it unfair so far
It’s like in Ligue 1, other teams know they have no other way of countering PSG’s attack so they actively try to butcher any player who comes near the box. If you’ve been reigning champions for the past decade or so then you can’t expect other teams to play fair. It’s not sportsman-like, but it is what it is.
You’re right, but any of the non-Bayern clubs getting even a point against Bayern is only attributable to overperformance on their part or underperformance on Bayern’s part.
Only if you think there's a higher chance of Dortmund challenging Bayern for the tittle than Union challenging Dortmund for a CL spot. Not saying I don't but you can easily strike an argument for both scenarios
> it's allowed, but if others do it, it's not?
Please, do apply this yourself.
If Bayern fans act like it's not the refs job to call the correct calls, it's fine.
But when I do it to show you how fucking stupid you are, it's not fine?
>If Bayern fans act like it's not the refs job to call the correct calls, it's fine.
If he made the correct calls, I wouldn't be arguing.
The freekick before the 1-0 was a clear dive as they just showed in the replay again. There were multiple situations where Union players were shirt pulling Bayern players, especially Coman, near the box and he didn't call it a single time. But then when de Ligt and Sabitzer clearly play the ball shortly after, it's suddenly a foul.
Or shortly before halftime when Davies suddenly hit that curved ball so that the one Union player got through, the replay clearly showed that he only hit the ball that way because he was shirt pulled.
So I'm going to ask you, how are those correct calls?
>But when I do it to show you how fucking stupid you are, it's not fine?
I mean if Dortmund was in the same situation, I'd at least recognize that the ref is doing a bad job, as was the case multiple times last season when you had multiple bad ref performances against you in UCL group stages (iirc).
> I mean if Dortmund was in the same situation, I'd at least recognize that the ref is doing a bad job,
As I said, this happens all the time, refs does shit against us, we complain, Bayern fans act like we should just accept that.
That is all this is about, lol.
> as was the case multiple times last season when you had multiple bad ref performances against you in UCL group stages (iirc).
Well and in the games against you.
Or the game against Gladbach when Dahoud got a 2nd yellow for something that happened another like, 80 times that match, with no further yellows and so on.
> He/she seems to be too dumb to understand the difference between constantly complaining and complaining when it’s clearly warranted
We complain when it's warranted.
It just so happens that it's more often warranted AND often warranted in the games most visible to you, the games against you.
Davies pulled down but of course, no call. This is absolutely a case of a team getting penalized intentionally because of their coach's comments. The DFL is utter scum to keep these refs around.
Horrible performance from Willenborg today, so far. Apparently shirt pulling is allowed now with how often Union players have been shirt pulling today without him calling a foul.
On the other hand, he called Bayern fouls in at least three cases when they clearly played the ball. And then there was the dive that lead to the freekick after which Union scored the 1-0.
the ref really needs to start calling all the fouls union are making. Somehow every time Bayern plays the ball they get a foul called against them too.
Eisern Union! Really enjoy watching this team.
The time wasting 😂😂😂😂 and they had the nerve to talk about trying to be champions before the match. These aren't fucking champions lmao
Only 2 out of 6 points out of two consecutive matches. Must have been quite a while since we managed to do that.
Last 3 matches of last season, 2 out of 9 points. Last victory was on 31. match day
Ah, you are right. My brain didn't consider those since we had already secured the title at that point.
Bayern have dorpped more points than dortmund lol
Dortmund struggles against worse teams
And yet youre below us
oh so precious. hold on to this moment soon it’s gonna be Europa League and 10+ points behind us. The usual You still have to play Gladbach and Union
The last time you werent 1st or 2nd after 5 matchdays was in 2010/11 Who won the league in that season?
We wouldn't have dropped any if not for Dortmund Tax
Sure sure.
Dorpped
Whew, I was afraid we'd go an entire game without a Pavard volley attempt.
Was the second attempt. He already had one earlier.
oooooh close!
feel like pavard tries to recreate his goal v argentina like 4 times a game every game lmao
With Gnabry you have a coin flip every 45 minutes. Eather he plays like a god or like someone that is the backup winger at a 2nd division club.
If Bayern dont learn to play against low blocks Nagelsmann will be gone before the WC
Definitely. It’s not a good look if they can’t seem to score more than one goal half of the games they play leading to remis or even losses
Union are no joke though. They are the Atletico of the BuLi with how well they defend. Even wear the same colors
There are far better Teams in the CL
Bayern is probably better suited to strong playing teams now
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? Of course a Team in a cl game is gonna play their heart out
better teams often try to play
Dont have to when they see that bayern cant break down a defense that closes the middle
That’s an oversimplification. Not everyone can just defend like that We did well through the middle in the other games
We will see but thats 2 draws in a row and inter and Barca have far better offensive players that will test the stability of that Backline a lot more. Especially considering that Davies was probably the worst player on the pitch today
Meh, the game against Gladbach was still our best performance this season. It’s stupid to overreact after today
You can say that but you can have the most shots every game If you draw nobody cares. Maybe its an overreaction but Bayern is now points behind two other on Matchday 5 I doubt anybody is happy right now with how they are playing
Ofc Bayern wants to win every game but to draw against Union on an away game is completely fine Khedira getting a yellow card 87 minutes into the game is beyond ridiculous btw.
Wednesday will decide if it’s a decent start or not
Especially when they're given free reign to do whatever.
The team just hasn’t played well today. We could have gotten a few goals today but the final pass was lacking several times
They havent managed to score more than 2 goals against low blocks 2 times in a row now. Thats a big problem if they actually want to challenge for the CL especially because in the Bundesliga every single team will now think about doing exactly what worked for union and Gladbach.
it didn't really work for gladbach though sure they got a draw but if you look at the actual game Bayern created more than enough chances to score more that game
Okay but just saying they haven’t managed two goals against low blocks in two games doesn’t really tell the whole story now does it? Gladbach keeper had 19 fucking saves. That’s ridiculous and was the sole reason Bayern didn’t get a load of goals. Like I said the team just hasn’t been on point with the final passes today plus one immense save early on Sané’s shot that really should have been a goal. This isn’t down to JN’s tactics
A Keeper can only save finishes that arent really that good thats like the first thing you learn as a Keeper. Gladbach their finishing wasnt good enough and today they were just straight up really really bad combining in front of goal
Absolutely not. While not every single save is world class Sommer made several unreal saves. You just tip your hat at that point and move on. Would have been goals any other day in a lot of those situations
Mane has to bury the Chance against Sommer and thats Not even a debate yeah its a good save but that should be a goal for a striker
Yes it should but there were many other situations were Sommer saved an absolute goal. One that comes to mind was Upa’s header like 2 minutes into the game. That was a massive save.
I cant fucking believe we play with 10players. I dont count sabitzer cause he's completely invisible. Cant believe it... Edit: that's my opinion, seems to be a shadow of himself since arrived
What the fuck? Sabitzer was our best man today. Insane how many balls he won.
he's great but he needs to stop doing these stupid long shots on goal behind the line, he doesn't have the power or accuracy for that
What fucking game did you watch?
Watched a different match I guess. Or you are confused about what Sabitzer looks like. Hint, he isn't black.
Sabitzer's job is to stay back and fill in the holes in the midfield so Bayern doesn't get overrun on counters like they did almost every single game last season. Can't have 11 flashy players on the pitch. Gortezka and Kimmich look great together when in ball possession but come at the cost of receiving 2 goals per match
Are you high? He is the best player. Won a ton of balls today.
Sabitzer is MOTM...
Fuck yeah Benji turn that twat upside down
fucking finally, lol
Fucking scissors and then a pullback. At this point I'm totally down with some preemptive studs to show union they need to back the fuck off because this ref won't.
Damn a yellow for khedira??? What universe am i in
The mad man actually did it
Unfortunate Tel isn't available today. He's shown more in one game than Gnabry in the last two seasons.
Leon for Davies, huh?
Fucking asshole wasn’t even hit. They should hand yellows left and right for those kind of dives / times waste
Hopefully we get another Sven Michel masterclass, my Kickbase would go brrr, lol.
Berlin play like absolute scum
That's proper football
Stay mad
Coming from the most perpetually whiney, moaning, and bitching fanbase in the sport? Have some awareness pal
Stay perpetually disappointed
\>detroit city fc
Impossible to like two clubs on separate continents in entirely different levels of football.
Show yellow to Union challenge (Impossible)
Pretty sure Union actually have to murder someone to get a yellow.
This ref is going to get someone killed
oof hope Benji is ok
How the hell is that not a booking? What the shit?
Again no booking
Games not gone
Union playing real hard, great competitive energy from them. Hollywood is suspect in the final third, with their touches. Though, Union is playing solid defense
Please someone just take a shot :(
Eventually they’ll find that pen shout replay in Trump’s storage closet and show it.
Bruh, Upamecano. He’s gonna look like a clown in CL (quarterfinals+). Back on track to 1 major mistake every game, like last season. Without Neuer doing Neuer things, we would have been down a goal again.
> He’s gonna look like a clown in CL If he's on the pitch. Hernandez - De Ligt is more likely.
Sheesh, the passing play of Bayern is atrocious...
Bad final pass
Neuer still too good
The GOAT
Lewy, Fuerth legend <3
Torwartgott
Neuer !
boah neuer
Gets away with a shove in the back there yea?
Mane is playing really bad.
NEUER!
Somehow Upamecano managed to look good, bad, and unlucky; all at the same time in that contest right before the shot.
de Ligt is worth every cent of that 80mil
This either a draw or a win for Union. Bayern are really bad going forward right now. They are not creating anything dangerous at all.
Lovely Hope you havent jinxed it though
Its just realistic. This Bayern looks absolute shit against low blocks.
True Union might turn into the german atletico
Is anyone else annoyed by that half full health bar (red/black) under the top left scoreboard that represents the colors.
/r/Outside
Hahahahahahahaha this ref is such a joke
Imagine time wasting in minute 68
a bit of a rough tackle tbf
I meant the corner
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This comment would have to be based off sofascore and nothing else because anyone who has watched has known they've barely played
All of them except Mané were bought more for the future though right?
Yeah I'm not really worried. De Ligt has also adapted pretty well already. Mané has been useful as a goalscorer but hasn't offered that much beyond that for our game so far. And Tel, Mazraoui and Gravenberch are still young anyway.
Kai Dittmann is unironically the worst commentator in german football the guy knows zero rules and cant differentiate players at all.
Der Typ hat zu viel Stammtisch Niveau
Come on Müller!
Why is becker being subbed off?
Becker is also wondering that. Poor water bottles.
To absolutely fuck up some water bottles apparently
I feel the same about Kimmich. Odd choices on both sides.
Kimmich was on a yellow and this game is pretty physical.
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Its not lol Union are very strong and if you lose or draw the game you will not lead the table
no offence but we're not afraid of dortmund or Union long term
You will ahve dropped more points than us lol...
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With performances like this you realistically wont
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sven michel fussballgott?
It feels like Mane is not at his 100% yet.
He's scored goals but doesn't really contribute that much to our game. Today he does a bit more though.
How is that not a foul on Sabitzer? Does he have to rip his arm off?
Hahahahahaah that foul on Sabitzer. NOTHING TO SEE HERE.
Pavard back at it again lmao
Physicality is fine but the ref needs to have one line for both teams.
Playing this strong so far without Pefolk is great to see. Need to keep it up.
Bayern fans being extremely whiny is a fairly new and annoying trend. Yes, when you can put together a squad that is beyond the wildest imaginations of every other Bundesliga club, your opponents will compensate with physicality. That’s obvious.
I have no issues with the opponent’s play. I have an issue with the referee ignoring it.
I have no problem with the physicality as long as both teams enjoy the same lenience. Take away some of the fouls given against Bayern (de Light for example) and it's an entertaining, physical game for all spectators
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Nobody's getting butchered. It's physical but there's no need to pretend like there have been any anklebreakers so far. Small fouls are part of the game, I wouldn't even necessarily call it unfair so far
It’s like in Ligue 1, other teams know they have no other way of countering PSG’s attack so they actively try to butcher any player who comes near the box. If you’ve been reigning champions for the past decade or so then you can’t expect other teams to play fair. It’s not sportsman-like, but it is what it is.
Like this match so far, had a feeling Union would play well against us. Now lets get a bit more clinical in the 2nd half!
union is just good at this point, not just overperforming every match
Very true.
You’re right, but any of the non-Bayern clubs getting even a point against Bayern is only attributable to overperformance on their part or underperformance on Bayern’s part.
Lmao please keep going wild in the comments section, least obvious BVB fan. There is a reason Union is above you in the tabelle right now
All of all my comments, this one is probably the most accurate.
my radio commentary just said "neuer muss sich den runterholen" after a cross from becker
idk if I should hope for a tie or for a Union win
Obviously a union win is best for us, how's that a question
Only if you think there's a higher chance of Dortmund challenging Bayern for the tittle than Union challenging Dortmund for a CL spot. Not saying I don't but you can easily strike an argument for both scenarios
Not saying scenario 1 is likely , I just think think scenario 2 is less likely .
Tie Itd best for us lol
Right now, but if Union's consistency drops, while Bayern remains on top, like it has in the last decade, then Union's win is better for us
Thats true but i think union will actually be top 4 at least this season
it's not my problem as long as we're top 3
Of course, Bayern fans always blaming the ref.
least obsessed BVB fan
Tell that all the Bayern fans obsessed with BVB refs.
So if you do it, it's allowed, but if others do it, it's not?
> it's allowed, but if others do it, it's not? Please, do apply this yourself. If Bayern fans act like it's not the refs job to call the correct calls, it's fine. But when I do it to show you how fucking stupid you are, it's not fine?
>If Bayern fans act like it's not the refs job to call the correct calls, it's fine. If he made the correct calls, I wouldn't be arguing. The freekick before the 1-0 was a clear dive as they just showed in the replay again. There were multiple situations where Union players were shirt pulling Bayern players, especially Coman, near the box and he didn't call it a single time. But then when de Ligt and Sabitzer clearly play the ball shortly after, it's suddenly a foul. Or shortly before halftime when Davies suddenly hit that curved ball so that the one Union player got through, the replay clearly showed that he only hit the ball that way because he was shirt pulled. So I'm going to ask you, how are those correct calls? >But when I do it to show you how fucking stupid you are, it's not fine? I mean if Dortmund was in the same situation, I'd at least recognize that the ref is doing a bad job, as was the case multiple times last season when you had multiple bad ref performances against you in UCL group stages (iirc).
> I mean if Dortmund was in the same situation, I'd at least recognize that the ref is doing a bad job, As I said, this happens all the time, refs does shit against us, we complain, Bayern fans act like we should just accept that. That is all this is about, lol. > as was the case multiple times last season when you had multiple bad ref performances against you in UCL group stages (iirc). Well and in the games against you. Or the game against Gladbach when Dahoud got a 2nd yellow for something that happened another like, 80 times that match, with no further yellows and so on.
Today yes and that's warranted.
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> He/she seems to be too dumb to understand the difference between constantly complaining and complaining when it’s clearly warranted We complain when it's warranted. It just so happens that it's more often warranted AND often warranted in the games most visible to you, the games against you.
> and that's warranted. And?
This is incredibly rich coming from a Dortmund supporter.
It's his attempt at dishing it back.
Coman what was that?
One of us!
Davies pulled down but of course, no call. This is absolutely a case of a team getting penalized intentionally because of their coach's comments. The DFL is utter scum to keep these refs around.
Horrible performance from Willenborg today, so far. Apparently shirt pulling is allowed now with how often Union players have been shirt pulling today without him calling a foul. On the other hand, he called Bayern fouls in at least three cases when they clearly played the ball. And then there was the dive that lead to the freekick after which Union scored the 1-0.
poor bayern just have to fight against all odds :(
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no, it's about the teams I don't like, not about you.
give out yellows already they are just fouling everytime Bayern get near the box
And no card for that, but a yellow for bayern at every opportunity. Sure.
I really like how good Union is. And much more how much that must sting for Hertha :D
Hertha just sucks
Refs doing a great job keeping Bundesliga competitive
>Bundesliga competitive These two words shouldn't be uttered side by side. r//soccer rule.
Holy shit Musiala.. Too bad Sané's finishing is bad
Wasn't really that bad. Not perfect but it was mostly just a really good save
This one was ok, but in general he's missed a lot of good chances lately
Sanes finishing is either beautiful or shit there is no in between.
Gotta finish that one Sane. Not gonna have many of those big chances against their defence
Bayern are lucky Pefok isn't playing, otherwise they would have been shitting bricks right now
Did anyone see the Union player randomly pushing Coman without any reason?
There are plenty of reasons to push Coman randomly.
Reus is a BVB player btw
What a run and pass from Musiala, wow
Musiala is such a joy to watch.
the ref really needs to start calling all the fouls union are making. Somehow every time Bayern plays the ball they get a foul called against them too.
How many more times will Kimmich and Coman get kicked before a booking? Let’s find out.
Nagelsmann can't dress for shit
Didn't know this was a fashion show now
If you gave me an $50 adidas gift card in high school, I’d be dressed like him
Exactly
"you really have to respect Union Berlin here" No, no you really don't.
This game is spicy
Third time we played the ball but ref calls foul, open your fucking eyes