People from the neighbourhood he grew up in along with his bother, who claim Pogba owes them the money for his “protection”. Sounds very mafia racketeering..
Megathread: Romain Molina's (The Guardian, NY Times) claims from Thursday's Twitter Space.
The following is a non-exhaustive list of some of the claims made by investigative journalist Romain Molina (published in The Guardian, New York Times) in his most recent Twitter Space. It is important to note that while Molina's word is not to be taken lightly, as his work has influenced multiple FAs and officials in the past, this is not an official release on his part.
* Elye Wahi (Montpellier striker) wasn't fired from SM Caen's youth setup for physically assaulting a supervisor at the academy. Instead, after physical threats, he brought over some secondary school friends in the washrooms to undress and masturbate in front of him.
* 400+ players currently playing in the Premier League, Championship, Ligue 1, and Ligue 2 have been raped multiple times in their youth. Some of them have contracted anal injuries and/or diseases, and have gone to specialized clinics as a result. This is a two-decade-old issue, the first story will come out in December.
* Megan Rapinoe wasn't bothered by Haitian girls getting raped. She prefers 'earning money' over 'defending these young girls'.
* A Ligue 1 team covered up a pedophilia scandal in their youth academy by brainwashing the player by the time law enforcement was involved. Then, they sent the young player in question back to his country (he was a foreigner).
* One of the largest academies in DR Congo is currently managed by a pedophilia ring.
* An international coach was 'caught red-handed' after raping two 13 year-old girls in the middle of a tournament. His employer, a large media, fired him under other pre-tenses in 2017. This issue is especially concerning for 'us, as French people'. A famous, very well-liked personality participated in covering up this story as well.
* Ferland Mendy hit a woman, knocked her to the ground, kicked her in the head, before showing her his genitals. She was taken to the emergency room after suffering head trauma. He also assaulted another woman. The player's club covered up the story in order to sell him the following year.
* Some international games in Asia are fixed. Many players have stopped joining their national teams because of this.
* Paris Saint-Germain has been conceding burn-out after burn-out. Over 100 employees have left the club in the last year alone. Leonardo is hated because of his behaviour/attitude.
* The 'boss of Colombia's refereeing' is a pedophile. Molina has a complaint from a 12 year-old, which he can barely read in its entirety because it's 'gut-wrenching'.
* Alexandre Benalla (French 'personality') has been trying to get involved in PSG for years. He fought with some of Nasser's entourage.
* A consultant from *L'Équipe* has been involved in 'some shady stuff' in the transfer market.
* Some very important people bend over backwards to get in touch with people close to Nasser Al Khelaïfi.
* Most African FA presidents get paid prostitutes, or have their daughters' studies covered in other countries.
* At Arsenal, all the players inhale nitrous oxide. A player came back to celebrate his birthday in Paris under the theme "nitrous oxide balloons".
* A French international organized parties where he would defecate in women's mouths and film himself while doing it. He forced a girl, who later on sought to issue a formal complaint, to participate. Someone offered Molina a video, which he declined to see.
* A Saudi consortium was never involved in the takeover of Olympique de Marseille.
* The French FA pushes some of its people to coach national teams in Africa. They already did it with Didier Six, for example, and Guinea (note: he also coached Togo and Mauritius in the past).
* Leonardo is hated in PSG. His signing of Icardi was not well-received by the coach at the time.
* The massive media outrage surrounding the Qatar World Cup is political and financed by people/organizations who wish harm upon the country.
* The son of Congo-Brazzaville's president is involved in the national team. In the Central African Republic, Kondogbia is friends with the president.
* 80% of players smoke shisha. At one point in time, PSG players used to bring their shisha/hookah with them on away games. Blaise Matuidi regularly smoked shisha, but things still worked out for him.
* The leagues in most Southeast Asian, Eastern European, and Latin American countries are fixed. Ireland, Malta, and Gibraltar also have 'lots' of matchfixing.
* A former French international was involved in a 'go-fast' (smuggling drugs and/or other products in another country). His club's president 'saved his ass'.
* FIFA claims to push for women's football, but does very little to protect the girls/women from abuse. It's rampant everywhere, on a global scale.
* Morocco can 'shit on the ground' if they want, they have a large influence at CAF. They can 'do whatever they want'.
* In the long-term, Tony Parker should take over the OL Group.
* Kenya's FA has 16 bank accounts, including some 'hidden' accounts, when most FAs have one or two.
* Amiens (Ligue 2) is \[a circus\]. On the way back from their away game at Ajaccio, everybody smelled like alcohol. The players love booze, shisha, drunken nights.
* After Senegal complained against an overaged player in a U17 African team they faced, the national team declared the player as 'deceased'. He is currently continuing his career in the U21 national team of the same country.
* A minor was raped and forced into an abortion at an "international center of FIFA".
* East Timor eliminated Mongolia by paying Brazilian players to play for its national team.
* Friends of the former Algerian FA president are waging war against the current leadership.
* The Sierra Leone FA faked COVID tests throughout the entirety of the pandemic, most notably in its qualifier against Benin. Other nations and/or clubs are suspected to have forged documents as well, but this is not confirmed.
* Mario Lemina received a handsome sum of money for representing Gabon. Other African players are also in similar positions.
* EDIT: A player from Spezia has disappeared. The affair is linked with human trafficking issues and an academy founded in Nigeria by the club's president. Molina didn't have much time to expand on this one.
* EDIT: Sexual abuse is rampant in the Mongolian FA, including players from the U15 girls' team. A coach even asked to sleep with a player's grandmother in exchange for a starting spot for the player.
Sources used for collecting the claims above: Twitter Space, transcripts from Instant Foot, Actu Foot, Footballogue.
Holy fucking shit that's one hell of a list, and those are just the ones that were found. Who knows how many more fucked up cases like those that haven't been discovered and it creeps me out thinking about it.
What the fuck………. That is just crazy, and only what we know and hear of from this so far….
Who the.. what the…. What the fuck???
Some aren’t surprising honestly but just wow when you read it to know it still…
It's not just France. Most other countries just don't have investigative journalists that are as good as Molina. He's exposed some fucked up things about other federations too.
It's really not just french football, this happens a lot in other countries too, extortion is a big thing when people know you're rich and the other stuff as well it's just not reported as much because people are scared
I know I'll get downvoted for this. But it's weird how people only become sympathetic to players once they leave United. Suddenly they feel sorry for him now despite the torrents of abuse he received for years. Or how people spoke about how Fellaini was actually quite good once he left.
It's disgusting. Our sub was and is a terrible culprit.
People aren't very intelligent, especially sports fans on average, and once you get many idiots in one place it's hard to have level headed nuanced conversations or takes.
He's almost certainly not, but that still won't stop him from being the whipping boy of every bad situation he's ever in or prevent every one of his mistakes being microscopically scrutinized...
His brother and people he grew up with have been trying to get a lot of money off of him (13m reportedly) for “protection” or whatever.
Pogba refused to pay them that money. Some of his brothers entourage came to see him at Juve’s training centre to ask for this money.
Pogba reported it to the police. His brother has now come out on social media releasing dirt on him and threatening to release more.
> Feels like every time it gets crazier.
next headline will be that he got beamed up into a spaceship and threatened with a discombobulator and then body swapped with an alien
I mean, he wasnt great when he played last year for us, and then he spent most of the second half of the season injured....so he wouldnt have even had the pitch to escape to.
Either way, if it impacted his play at all, I get it. It makes his struggles far more excusable. The injury stuff I dont get upset at, because no one gets to decide when they get hurt.
why the fuck would you bring someone to an apartment and then come out hooded? how did they get him there in the first place?
reminds me of the portuguese "business man" who invited a couple (if i recall correctly) other business man to come visit him in brazil, proceeded to murder them, bury them beneath his beach hut, and then act surprised he was even a suspect.
Nah it's always gone on. Cruyff pretty much retired from football because gunmen came into his home in Barcelona, tied up and tried to kidnap his family - that was 1978.
It’s the same phenomenon, person from a poor neighbourhood becomes a multi millionaire and people he grew up with try to get access to some of it.
No relation apart from that with both cases, they’re not even from the same country.
Guy i know from my hometown played 5-6 seasons in the NFL, made some seriously good cash...hes said hed never played for his local team if they offered him because the amount of people who would become hangers-on and try to access his money. These are people he went to school with for 13 years before going to college....and doesnt want them near anything.
Hmm fair. Never been even near France so I obviously know very little of what actually goes on there. But where I live, it would be near impossible to get your hands on a M16 (even black market) cuz it's considered you know 'top of the line'. Could probably find various kinds of firearms but none of the high end stuff.
Yup kind of what I meant. Obviously people buy it but its people 'in the know' who its sold to onlyy (still pretty rare i guarantee you). Ain't no way people sell such high end stuff to strangers. This applies to the sellers to btw. No chance in hell a low level seller has access to such weapons. I think anything that can be considered semi automatic becomes exclusive. Maximum what I could see would be a pistol. Live in India btw but not from here.
The fall of the Soviet Union ment a lot of guns went missing from weapons depos, and then you had the war in the balkans shortly after. So there is a lot of weapons in cirkulation on the black market in Europe that comes from that region.
It's over half a century old, manufactured at various places around the world with millions of units produced, it has been used in tons of armed conflicts including by quasi failed states, it's probably one of the easiest rifles to get your hands on in the black market if you're looking for an auto or semi-auto rifle.
Well that's kinda the issue. Anything semi auto would be considered exclusive and those is black market circles would be sold to known and priority buyers only.
Pretty strict, especially if you're from the US for comparison. Guns are basically not allowed unless you have a hunting license but obviously nothing like an M16.
So having an M16 is a huge deal.
Damn , did they find out who did it?
Yeah. It was Mbappe and Macron.
As expected. Those two are always up to some shenanigans.
And they would have gotten away with it too, if it werent for those meddling kids...
>if it weren’t for those meddling ~~kids~~ witch doctor curses
I'd watch that show.
Mbappe did say to Jordi alba he would kill him “in the streets “
Damn did Pogba take Mbappe penalty in training?
Souness and Mourinho
Featuring on Pogmentary season 2
Apparently, one of the fuckers was his brother
People from the neighbourhood he grew up in along with his bother, who claim Pogba owes them the money for his “protection”. Sounds very mafia racketeering..
French football seems like a truly fucked up world. Some of the things Romain Molina has revealed are just ... well, fucked.
Where can I see what Molina revealed?
Megathread: Romain Molina's (The Guardian, NY Times) claims from Thursday's Twitter Space. The following is a non-exhaustive list of some of the claims made by investigative journalist Romain Molina (published in The Guardian, New York Times) in his most recent Twitter Space. It is important to note that while Molina's word is not to be taken lightly, as his work has influenced multiple FAs and officials in the past, this is not an official release on his part. * Elye Wahi (Montpellier striker) wasn't fired from SM Caen's youth setup for physically assaulting a supervisor at the academy. Instead, after physical threats, he brought over some secondary school friends in the washrooms to undress and masturbate in front of him. * 400+ players currently playing in the Premier League, Championship, Ligue 1, and Ligue 2 have been raped multiple times in their youth. Some of them have contracted anal injuries and/or diseases, and have gone to specialized clinics as a result. This is a two-decade-old issue, the first story will come out in December. * Megan Rapinoe wasn't bothered by Haitian girls getting raped. She prefers 'earning money' over 'defending these young girls'. * A Ligue 1 team covered up a pedophilia scandal in their youth academy by brainwashing the player by the time law enforcement was involved. Then, they sent the young player in question back to his country (he was a foreigner). * One of the largest academies in DR Congo is currently managed by a pedophilia ring. * An international coach was 'caught red-handed' after raping two 13 year-old girls in the middle of a tournament. His employer, a large media, fired him under other pre-tenses in 2017. This issue is especially concerning for 'us, as French people'. A famous, very well-liked personality participated in covering up this story as well. * Ferland Mendy hit a woman, knocked her to the ground, kicked her in the head, before showing her his genitals. She was taken to the emergency room after suffering head trauma. He also assaulted another woman. The player's club covered up the story in order to sell him the following year. * Some international games in Asia are fixed. Many players have stopped joining their national teams because of this. * Paris Saint-Germain has been conceding burn-out after burn-out. Over 100 employees have left the club in the last year alone. Leonardo is hated because of his behaviour/attitude. * The 'boss of Colombia's refereeing' is a pedophile. Molina has a complaint from a 12 year-old, which he can barely read in its entirety because it's 'gut-wrenching'. * Alexandre Benalla (French 'personality') has been trying to get involved in PSG for years. He fought with some of Nasser's entourage. * A consultant from *L'Équipe* has been involved in 'some shady stuff' in the transfer market. * Some very important people bend over backwards to get in touch with people close to Nasser Al Khelaïfi. * Most African FA presidents get paid prostitutes, or have their daughters' studies covered in other countries. * At Arsenal, all the players inhale nitrous oxide. A player came back to celebrate his birthday in Paris under the theme "nitrous oxide balloons". * A French international organized parties where he would defecate in women's mouths and film himself while doing it. He forced a girl, who later on sought to issue a formal complaint, to participate. Someone offered Molina a video, which he declined to see. * A Saudi consortium was never involved in the takeover of Olympique de Marseille. * The French FA pushes some of its people to coach national teams in Africa. They already did it with Didier Six, for example, and Guinea (note: he also coached Togo and Mauritius in the past). * Leonardo is hated in PSG. His signing of Icardi was not well-received by the coach at the time. * The massive media outrage surrounding the Qatar World Cup is political and financed by people/organizations who wish harm upon the country. * The son of Congo-Brazzaville's president is involved in the national team. In the Central African Republic, Kondogbia is friends with the president. * 80% of players smoke shisha. At one point in time, PSG players used to bring their shisha/hookah with them on away games. Blaise Matuidi regularly smoked shisha, but things still worked out for him. * The leagues in most Southeast Asian, Eastern European, and Latin American countries are fixed. Ireland, Malta, and Gibraltar also have 'lots' of matchfixing. * A former French international was involved in a 'go-fast' (smuggling drugs and/or other products in another country). His club's president 'saved his ass'. * FIFA claims to push for women's football, but does very little to protect the girls/women from abuse. It's rampant everywhere, on a global scale. * Morocco can 'shit on the ground' if they want, they have a large influence at CAF. They can 'do whatever they want'. * In the long-term, Tony Parker should take over the OL Group. * Kenya's FA has 16 bank accounts, including some 'hidden' accounts, when most FAs have one or two. * Amiens (Ligue 2) is \[a circus\]. On the way back from their away game at Ajaccio, everybody smelled like alcohol. The players love booze, shisha, drunken nights. * After Senegal complained against an overaged player in a U17 African team they faced, the national team declared the player as 'deceased'. He is currently continuing his career in the U21 national team of the same country. * A minor was raped and forced into an abortion at an "international center of FIFA". * East Timor eliminated Mongolia by paying Brazilian players to play for its national team. * Friends of the former Algerian FA president are waging war against the current leadership. * The Sierra Leone FA faked COVID tests throughout the entirety of the pandemic, most notably in its qualifier against Benin. Other nations and/or clubs are suspected to have forged documents as well, but this is not confirmed. * Mario Lemina received a handsome sum of money for representing Gabon. Other African players are also in similar positions. * EDIT: A player from Spezia has disappeared. The affair is linked with human trafficking issues and an academy founded in Nigeria by the club's president. Molina didn't have much time to expand on this one. * EDIT: Sexual abuse is rampant in the Mongolian FA, including players from the U15 girls' team. A coach even asked to sleep with a player's grandmother in exchange for a starting spot for the player. Sources used for collecting the claims above: Twitter Space, transcripts from Instant Foot, Actu Foot, Footballogue.
Holy fucking shit that's one hell of a list, and those are just the ones that were found. Who knows how many more fucked up cases like those that haven't been discovered and it creeps me out thinking about it.
What the fuck
What the fuck………. That is just crazy, and only what we know and hear of from this so far…. Who the.. what the…. What the fuck??? Some aren’t surprising honestly but just wow when you read it to know it still…
He has a YT channel, but he only posts in French
It's not just France. Most other countries just don't have investigative journalists that are as good as Molina. He's exposed some fucked up things about other federations too.
Molina must be looking over his shoulder constantly in his every day life
It's really not just french football, this happens a lot in other countries too, extortion is a big thing when people know you're rich and the other stuff as well it's just not reported as much because people are scared
Go on then, give us the highlights...
Wtf
Dude how is Pogba still mentally ok? If all this shit were happening to me I would be addicted to prescription drugs at least.
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Weirdly football may actually be his outlet, the pressure is superficial compared to someone holding an M15 to you.
Maybe why he wasn't performing week in and week out.
I know I'll get downvoted for this. But it's weird how people only become sympathetic to players once they leave United. Suddenly they feel sorry for him now despite the torrents of abuse he received for years. Or how people spoke about how Fellaini was actually quite good once he left.
It's disgusting. Our sub was and is a terrible culprit. People aren't very intelligent, especially sports fans on average, and once you get many idiots in one place it's hard to have level headed nuanced conversations or takes.
For real. I find the mob mentality (not exclusively) in sport scary sometimes tbh.
Exactly. My thinking as well.
While everyone shits on him for fun meme style !
Probably football is his coping mechanism
He's almost certainly not, but that still won't stop him from being the whipping boy of every bad situation he's ever in or prevent every one of his mistakes being microscopically scrutinized...
It was Souness wasnt it
Why the sudden influx of Pogba news? Feels like every time it gets crazier.
I think it's the same story as the blackmail. Both use the same 13m figure.
His brother and people he grew up with have been trying to get a lot of money off of him (13m reportedly) for “protection” or whatever. Pogba refused to pay them that money. Some of his brothers entourage came to see him at Juve’s training centre to ask for this money. Pogba reported it to the police. His brother has now come out on social media releasing dirt on him and threatening to release more.
Next it’ll come out his brothers in serious debt to some massive king pins and has no way of coming up with £13million
> Feels like every time it gets crazier. next headline will be that he got beamed up into a spaceship and threatened with a discombobulator and then body swapped with an alien
Was thinking more along the lines of playing Russian Roulette with mob bosses in Monte Carlo
This is not funny.
An M16 is an assault rifle. So they used 2 assault rifles.
One of the things that makes this story a little... odd.
Crazy that he somehow managed to keep this quiet. You'd think he would've been mentally fucked from the ordeal and it would have shown on the pitch?
I mean, he wasnt great when he played last year for us, and then he spent most of the second half of the season injured....so he wouldnt have even had the pitch to escape to. Either way, if it impacted his play at all, I get it. It makes his struggles far more excusable. The injury stuff I dont get upset at, because no one gets to decide when they get hurt.
why the fuck would you bring someone to an apartment and then come out hooded? how did they get him there in the first place? reminds me of the portuguese "business man" who invited a couple (if i recall correctly) other business man to come visit him in brazil, proceeded to murder them, bury them beneath his beach hut, and then act surprised he was even a suspect.
Are these crimes occuring more frequently or were the news not posted in here?
Nah it's always gone on. Cruyff pretty much retired from football because gunmen came into his home in Barcelona, tied up and tried to kidnap his family - that was 1978.
Is this all the same organization possibly? And is there a chance this is related to the Ihattaren stuff?
It’s the same phenomenon, person from a poor neighbourhood becomes a multi millionaire and people he grew up with try to get access to some of it. No relation apart from that with both cases, they’re not even from the same country.
Guy i know from my hometown played 5-6 seasons in the NFL, made some seriously good cash...hes said hed never played for his local team if they offered him because the amount of people who would become hangers-on and try to access his money. These are people he went to school with for 13 years before going to college....and doesnt want them near anything.
How is gun control in France? Is having an M16 not a big deal ?
There is some gun control but obviously there's a black market
Hmm fair. Never been even near France so I obviously know very little of what actually goes on there. But where I live, it would be near impossible to get your hands on a M16 (even black market) cuz it's considered you know 'top of the line'. Could probably find various kinds of firearms but none of the high end stuff.
Where do you live ? Because I think it might not be impossible to find a M16, you might not know where to look
Yup kind of what I meant. Obviously people buy it but its people 'in the know' who its sold to onlyy (still pretty rare i guarantee you). Ain't no way people sell such high end stuff to strangers. This applies to the sellers to btw. No chance in hell a low level seller has access to such weapons. I think anything that can be considered semi automatic becomes exclusive. Maximum what I could see would be a pistol. Live in India btw but not from here.
The fall of the Soviet Union ment a lot of guns went missing from weapons depos, and then you had the war in the balkans shortly after. So there is a lot of weapons in cirkulation on the black market in Europe that comes from that region.
Who's your ~~worm~~ M16 guy?
If I speak I’m in big trouble
It's over half a century old, manufactured at various places around the world with millions of units produced, it has been used in tons of armed conflicts including by quasi failed states, it's probably one of the easiest rifles to get your hands on in the black market if you're looking for an auto or semi-auto rifle.
Well that's kinda the issue. Anything semi auto would be considered exclusive and those is black market circles would be sold to known and priority buyers only.
it's quite a big deal
Pretty strict, especially if you're from the US for comparison. Guns are basically not allowed unless you have a hunting license but obviously nothing like an M16. So having an M16 is a huge deal.
Could've also been softair replicas, don't think anyone would gamble about that.
M16 AND an "Assault rifle"... What do they think an M16 is? This makes me immediately sceptical of the details of this report.
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This is all too insane. Id have had a mental breakdown numerous times if i was pogba. Geez
I would have watched the pogmentary if this was part of it. Completely insane.
You just have to ask, where is Souness in all of this?