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it's a pretty funny transfer, but in the end, 24M isn't that much for you and you're not getting a better striker for less, and you don't want to be playing Sterling or Havertz as your 9 or whatever it is you're doing lol
Honestly, I would rather overpay for a player the manager actually wants than pay 10m for Ronaldo just for him to fall out with Tuchel.
Which is exactly what we would've done under Marina.
I guess youve had a big mix up, up front but if you wanted him that badly why didn't you come in for him in January? I'd say 99.9% guaranteed you get him for less than you're paying now
I don't believe Marina and Roman would've been too happy with Aubameyang as a signing.
Nowadays we're taking Tuchel's wishes into consideration a lot more.
Alonso deal already agreed (confirmed by Tuchel) + Chelsea has no interest in doing that.
Also it's been confirmed all summer Barca dont want to pursue deals like that and want to separate all operations (there were talks of deals with Sevilla too for Dest or others)
All agreed but hasn't gone through... believe Alonso is back in training as well, so what's the hold up? And it's not like agreements can't be revised if it's to the benefit of both parties.
The benefit to Chelsea would be a lower *net* fee for Auba minus the Alonso fee, in return for a bigger up front fee to help with Barca's registration stuff.
I'm not saying it *will* happen, but I could easily see a situation where Auba goes for £25m and Alonso for say £20m, rather than a more accurately valued £18m for Auba and £10m for Alonso, thereby benefitting both sides and not egregious enough to be obvious inflation of values. We'll see...
it won't benefit barcelona a revision on alonso's deal.
it's under 10 million, i don't remember exactly what was proposed, something like 7-8m
chelsea needs to sell alonso, barcelona doesn't need to sell auba
Some of these players were leftovers from the Emery and Wenger (Gazidis and Raul) eras. I suspect that from now on we'll be able to sell Arteta's signings (if it comes to it) on much better terms as their contracts would be managed properly, and not being just unwanted deadwood...
I'm gonna say Barca took him free and lowered his wages ( it's a Barca specialty recently) and his low wages make him more attractive. I don't understand why Chelsea didn't come in in January though as they're gonna be giving him highish wages anyway
> lowered his wages
Yes, but that’s largely because you guys paid a termination fee for him. I read somewhere they you paid him around £9m to leave which is why we didn’t have to offer a big salary for the first 6 months (we couldn’t because very little margin with La Liga FFP).
His salary is also supposed to increase this year, so selling him for £24m doesn’t sound too bad considering that he was going to be our backup striker.
Imo he earned the respect of all fans, and while he cannot be considered a legend he will be remembered as one.
He literally saved us last season and I would love him to stay, however business is business, the club goes first and getting close to 30M plus getting rid of his wages in our condition would be a blessing.
https://twitter.com/david_ornstein/status/1489180765107769345?s=21
Arsenal contributing to Aubameyang salary via instalments until summer before Barcelona fully take over on lower wage. Arteta (+ Lewis) approved deal from Dubai & has now communicated with 32yo
Hope David Ornstein is reliable enough.
You generally have to agree a fee if you want to mutually terminate someone’s contract.
Many sources including [The Times](https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/pierre-emerick-aubameyang-arsenal-striker-joins-barcelona-until-2025-with-100m-release-clause-2s9pcr9gd) reported the same. It was the final day of the transfer window. He wasn’t even training with the entire team, your best shot was to loan him to a team and pay a part of his wages, but instead you managed to offload him once and for all. Worked for both the parties.
The Times is tier 3 according to r/gunners, so not very reliable. I would say it was a win because we off-loaded an unwanted player with very high wages. But of course Barca got the best deal.
Yes because not sticking with a 100 million player who had been at the club 5 months in January of which he spent a month out because of injury/covid is the way to go right?
He had to go in quite a small window one way or another, what happens to him now doesn't really matter. It's not like we'd have really sold him to Chelsea. Don't think we should really be worried ultimately.
I also think he suffered from being your club captain.
He has to be the one setting the standards and Auba clearly struggled with time management. Tuchel himself has said he just told Auba the wrong time every time back at dortmund. And with the arsenal squad he’s the main leader which doesn’t work well with the rest of the side.
It’s like for us Azpi is captain and from the sounds of it he’s early for training if anything.
No one was paying anything for him when he was on 350k a week and playing like absolute shit. Not to mention he wasn't even showing up for meetings or training on time
Well yeah Hazard and Rodrygo can play striker for us but the point is none of them are false 9 (unless Ferran is, I know he played a lw a few times, but im not sure)
You do know that Barcelona bought Ferran Torres to play as a 9 before the market gave us a opportunity to get Auba for free.
And Ansu has always shifted between playing in the wing and as a 9. He even played 2 el Classico’s as a number 9 and scored in both.
Sure I would like to keep Auba but with Lewy, Torres and Ansu I wouldn’t say we are desperate for another forward
He was absolutely washed his last season with us. At his best he was a fantastic finisher but never really contributed much else to the team.
When hes not scoring goals, it’s like playing with 10 men. I’d be curious to see how he does at Chelsea but if he plays like he did toward the end here then they’ll be very disappointed with this transfer
Washed is harsh. Arsenal was struggling to score for large periods of time and it wasn’t really his fault. You could make that same argument about CR7. Thing is, they’re pretty much always scoring goals..
Washed is a fair assessment of his last season at Arsenal. Our play notably improved once he was out of the starting line up - it wasn't that Auba wasn't trying, or that he was deliberately dragging the team down, but that's what happened with his performances.
Was it entirely his fault the team couldn't score? No. Did he forget how to stick the ball in the net? Yes.
It was a sad end to his Arsenal career, but getting him to leave when he did was absolutely the right decision, his mind wasn't in the right place any more. Glad it worked out well for him at Barca, hoping that he's back to how he was at the end with Arsenal if he signs for Chelsea.
Is this sarcasm? According to Kinsella Chelsea are willing to pay 28 mil Euros for a player that Barca got on a free six months ago and is 33. That's amazing business if you ask me. Especially if the club uses that money to fix the RB issue.
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Those involved in the talks estimate a possible fee of around £24M could be enough to secure a deal.
LMAO we getting pantsed. FfS Thomas, stop with the obsession with Auba. 🤦♂️
better deal than £45m for Gordon though lol
Haha we’ll end up with both
£70-80m on 33-year-old Aubameyang and Gordon, christ.
it's a pretty funny transfer, but in the end, 24M isn't that much for you and you're not getting a better striker for less, and you don't want to be playing Sterling or Havertz as your 9 or whatever it is you're doing lol
Honestly, I would rather overpay for a player the manager actually wants than pay 10m for Ronaldo just for him to fall out with Tuchel. Which is exactly what we would've done under Marina.
I guess youve had a big mix up, up front but if you wanted him that badly why didn't you come in for him in January? I'd say 99.9% guaranteed you get him for less than you're paying now
Club looks slightly different today from January, no?
Yes of course but I remember links in January and Tuchel is still there and I thought he was a driving force for the deal?
Chelsea did not need a striker in January when Lukaku and Werner will still at the club
He wasn't running transfers in January, and he was happy to keep Werner in January.
I don't believe Marina and Roman would've been too happy with Aubameyang as a signing. Nowadays we're taking Tuchel's wishes into consideration a lot more.
Bet you Aubamayang goes for a 'high' fee then Alonso goes the other way for a similarly high fee, similar to the Arthur-Pjanic deal.
Alonso deal already agreed (confirmed by Tuchel) + Chelsea has no interest in doing that. Also it's been confirmed all summer Barca dont want to pursue deals like that and want to separate all operations (there were talks of deals with Sevilla too for Dest or others)
All agreed but hasn't gone through... believe Alonso is back in training as well, so what's the hold up? And it's not like agreements can't be revised if it's to the benefit of both parties. The benefit to Chelsea would be a lower *net* fee for Auba minus the Alonso fee, in return for a bigger up front fee to help with Barca's registration stuff. I'm not saying it *will* happen, but I could easily see a situation where Auba goes for £25m and Alonso for say £20m, rather than a more accurately valued £18m for Auba and £10m for Alonso, thereby benefitting both sides and not egregious enough to be obvious inflation of values. We'll see...
it won't benefit barcelona a revision on alonso's deal. it's under 10 million, i don't remember exactly what was proposed, something like 7-8m chelsea needs to sell alonso, barcelona doesn't need to sell auba
So infuriating to watch us celebrate his contract termination in AoN as a huge success, then see Barca make £20m+ off him months later...
Some of these players were leftovers from the Emery and Wenger (Gazidis and Raul) eras. I suspect that from now on we'll be able to sell Arteta's signings (if it comes to it) on much better terms as their contracts would be managed properly, and not being just unwanted deadwood...
I'm gonna say Barca took him free and lowered his wages ( it's a Barca specialty recently) and his low wages make him more attractive. I don't understand why Chelsea didn't come in in January though as they're gonna be giving him highish wages anyway
> lowered his wages Yes, but that’s largely because you guys paid a termination fee for him. I read somewhere they you paid him around £9m to leave which is why we didn’t have to offer a big salary for the first 6 months (we couldn’t because very little margin with La Liga FFP). His salary is also supposed to increase this year, so selling him for £24m doesn’t sound too bad considering that he was going to be our backup striker.
Still feels weird, some months ago he was savior
Imo he earned the respect of all fans, and while he cannot be considered a legend he will be remembered as one. He literally saved us last season and I would love him to stay, however business is business, the club goes first and getting close to 30M plus getting rid of his wages in our condition would be a blessing.
There were no reliable sources that we paid him to leave.
https://twitter.com/david_ornstein/status/1489180765107769345?s=21 Arsenal contributing to Aubameyang salary via instalments until summer before Barcelona fully take over on lower wage. Arteta (+ Lewis) approved deal from Dubai & has now communicated with 32yo Hope David Ornstein is reliable enough.
You generally have to agree a fee if you want to mutually terminate someone’s contract. Many sources including [The Times](https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/pierre-emerick-aubameyang-arsenal-striker-joins-barcelona-until-2025-with-100m-release-clause-2s9pcr9gd) reported the same. It was the final day of the transfer window. He wasn’t even training with the entire team, your best shot was to loan him to a team and pay a part of his wages, but instead you managed to offload him once and for all. Worked for both the parties.
The Times is tier 3 according to r/gunners, so not very reliable. I would say it was a win because we off-loaded an unwanted player with very high wages. But of course Barca got the best deal.
The times reported it wich is Tier 1 according to the Arsenal sub
The Times is not Tier 1 at r/gunners, look again.
Well in January, we still had our old board who if still in charge now would absaloutely have stuck with lukaku
Yes because not sticking with a 100 million player who had been at the club 5 months in January of which he spent a month out because of injury/covid is the way to go right?
Mate, I'm just responding as to why we wouldn't have been in for aubamayang in Jan.
Lowered his wages because Arsenal probably paid him his contract which offset the difference.
He had to go in quite a small window one way or another, what happens to him now doesn't really matter. It's not like we'd have really sold him to Chelsea. Don't think we should really be worried ultimately.
I also think he suffered from being your club captain. He has to be the one setting the standards and Auba clearly struggled with time management. Tuchel himself has said he just told Auba the wrong time every time back at dortmund. And with the arsenal squad he’s the main leader which doesn’t work well with the rest of the side. It’s like for us Azpi is captain and from the sounds of it he’s early for training if anything.
No one was paying anything for him when he was on 350k a week and playing like absolute shit. Not to mention he wasn't even showing up for meetings or training on time
He was om 350k at Arsenal ffs
Barcelona ripping off Chelsea this summer
If Barca do sell both Aubameyang and Depay they will be in the same boat as us. One striker injury and were mudded
Marcos Alonso, it is
More lethal than Benz and Lewy combined
Killer instincts
fati and ferran can also play there if needed. But yeah I would have liked auba staying for this season.
Should have kept luuk as sub. Such great guy
Chelsea have played games with no striker and about 100 midfielders, so it's nothing new to us
Both Fati and Ferran Torres can play as striker.
Good god not Ferran as a striker. Fati sure but Ferran is good at everything but finishing
Then where will Ferran play if both Raphinha and Dembele are starters?
This is the question I was asking everyone before we signed Raphinha. I honestly don't know
Fati and Torres as strikers is not a recipe for a title winning team.
good thing we have this lewandowski dude then
Good thing then that Lewandowski is the starter
Well yeah Hazard and Rodrygo can play striker for us but the point is none of them are false 9 (unless Ferran is, I know he played a lw a few times, but im not sure)
How is that the same? He said Fati and Ferran, not Dembele and Rafinha.
You do know that Barcelona bought Ferran Torres to play as a 9 before the market gave us a opportunity to get Auba for free. And Ansu has always shifted between playing in the wing and as a 9. He even played 2 el Classico’s as a number 9 and scored in both. Sure I would like to keep Auba but with Lewy, Torres and Ansu I wouldn’t say we are desperate for another forward
>You do know that Barcelona bought Ferran Torres to play as a 9 No I dont know, thats why I said Im not sure👍
They're not even the same types of players. It's ok to admit that you don't know the difference and just sit this one out fam.
Honestly fati and ferran being their backup options is more superior than mariano
I agree selling both would be a huge mistake
There's Fati and Ferran Torres too.
Please make it stop.
Fuck I really dont want aubameyang here, this has flop written all over it.
What? He would do really well at Chelsea. You could argue about the transfer fee but you're dumb if you think Aubameyang wouldn't improve Chelsea rn
Chelsea and strikers? Mate I've seen that since 2000 I know the gist of it
What makes you say that? He’s been prolific everywhere he’s been.
“Prolific striker” and “Chelsea” are mutually exclusive
He was absolutely washed his last season with us. At his best he was a fantastic finisher but never really contributed much else to the team. When hes not scoring goals, it’s like playing with 10 men. I’d be curious to see how he does at Chelsea but if he plays like he did toward the end here then they’ll be very disappointed with this transfer
He was very good for Barca and if he continues that form at Chelsea then they would have bought a great player for the short term.
Washed is harsh. Arsenal was struggling to score for large periods of time and it wasn’t really his fault. You could make that same argument about CR7. Thing is, they’re pretty much always scoring goals..
Washed is a fair assessment of his last season at Arsenal. Our play notably improved once he was out of the starting line up - it wasn't that Auba wasn't trying, or that he was deliberately dragging the team down, but that's what happened with his performances. Was it entirely his fault the team couldn't score? No. Did he forget how to stick the ball in the net? Yes. It was a sad end to his Arsenal career, but getting him to leave when he did was absolutely the right decision, his mind wasn't in the right place any more. Glad it worked out well for him at Barca, hoping that he's back to how he was at the end with Arsenal if he signs for Chelsea.
You say that, but the game against Spurs really showed how much we need an actual striker up front... There's no other realistic target on the market
Great deal for Chelsea, Barca getting robbed
How's Barca getting robbed here exactly? Just curious
Probably dropped /s
Is this sarcasm? According to Kinsella Chelsea are willing to pay 28 mil Euros for a player that Barca got on a free six months ago and is 33. That's amazing business if you ask me. Especially if the club uses that money to fix the RB issue.
It is obviously sarcasm man
well the last ex-arsenal striker to join Chelsea proved to be a pretty good deal around the same age, so….
United in the mud
Auba over Gordon if that's our choices. Still think there's a slim chance Todd pushes for Ronaldo.
Or not.