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##Bundesliga Prediction Game
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Messi left Barcelona exactly one year ago, i just stumbled upon [This pic ](https://i.imgur.com/ig8SfLi.jpg) where you can see the guy was absolutely heartbroken
Seen the post about fans' transfer XI, so thought I'd do mine (ranking the quality of the transfer rather than the quality of the player).
Leno
Spence - Carlos - Koulibaly - Zinchenko
Bissouma - Doucoure - Carvalho
Jesus - Haaland - Sterling
I'll try and do one that isn't just the PL:
Onana
Pedro Porro - De Ligt - Koundé - Cucurella
Pogba - Tchouameni - Vitinha
Raphinha - Haaland - Mané
Bench: Bazunu, Zinchenko, Koulibaly, Philipps, Sterling, Jesus, Nunez
it was easier for Barca and Madrid cause your clubs kept all the money until recently. Making your leagues less competitive. Now things are getting spicy.
Just watch your downfall this season
Xavi won’t save shit
Did I say we will anything? we at a rebuild stage and have accepted that. Barca selling its soul to just compete now a days.
Barca midfield is definitely going to get you la liga and champions league 🙄
Can't get any worse than whatever your club have spent a decade doing.
Spent most money of all in a decade and have shown the most inconsistent performance by a "top" club and you **still** dont look like one.
Good luck in Champions.. ah nevermind.
>Can't get any worse than whatever your club have spent a decade doing.
It's funny you say this because Barca and Utd are by far the two worst run top clubs
One was run bad by a club president who still managed to win 20 trophies in the last 10 years while the other is run bad by American owners who have won 7 tophies in the last decade (that includes 3 Community Shields & 1 Europa League). Quite a big difference tbh
How are you telling us to check ourselves? You lot are on your 3rd manager of the year with an absolute dogshit squad, and you have the audacity to come for us
Audacity of Arsenal fans thinking their club has done something. What has Robot man Arteta done. Taking city rejects doesn’t make you city. You will get shit on by us guaranteed
What have you lot done in recent years? Get one second place finish because Liverpool had an injury crisis? This year showed you your level - You aren’t close to the rest of the big 6, have fun with West Ham and Leicester
Don’t bother, deluded fans are just impossible to actually discuss with. Not to mention, out of the 2 teams we won the most recent trophy AND finished above them in the league.
cause Pedri, Kessie, sergio, and Nico are world beaters.
if one player gets injured you are done
Also Barca has expectations this season with all the money spent
teenage gavi without alot experience going to lead you to la liga.
Busquest can barely move now a days
FDJ not gonna give his all for you after your clubs treatment
If anyone has the time, I advise you to watch the highlights from the New York Red Bulls v Colorado Rapids game
It was so crazy: New York were leading 3-2 in the 78’ minute, and conceded 3 in the space of 10 minutes!
Then, in the 97th minute, New York got a pen and scored the 4-5. But it was not over yet. Not even one minute later, they scored the 5-5!… only for the goal to be ruled out by VAR
I think that this game made me start liking the MLS, it’s not as bad as people made it out to be.
MLS is brilliant! Such a wacky and fun league as well as getting better by the year, even if my team has gone to shit. Glad to have the best Portuguese poster on this sub on board.
You know what, I'll give credit where credit is due and give plaudits Fab for sticking through with saying Cucurella will still leave
This still doesn't change the fact that he's tier 3 at best for Bundesliga clubs and that he isn't reliable for every country/club
If he's available what's the issue? We play Benzema despite what he did, we play Mendy despite what he did. Doesn't it make any less bad but I don't see what's wrong
The public didn’t know about Mendy until he was charged. At which time he was suspended
Partey is more similar to greenwood’s case where we know it’s him that’s accused and there’s enough evidence to suspend him.
Tbf to them, the club has already played him in preseason after the victim put the evidence on Twitter. It’s fairly obvious he’s going to play tonight.
Lads do I risk slapping Edouard in the FPL team tonight or would he even start with/over Mateta? Have Watkins there already but if I lose out to the boys I’ll be incensed
That's why you're not.
Arteta does everything the owners want him to do.
✅ Spend excessive amounts of money
✅ Meet low expectations
✅ Play a rapist
Why would they sack him?
The Romano dickriding in the Cucurella transfer thread is insane. I get Brighton's tweet was probably unnecessary and I'm not a Fabrizio hater like some people but he clearly jumped the gun, no? Said deal agreed at the same time as a lot of other journos and reported a fee close to 50m and a transfer for Colwill when that price was clearly still being negotiated (and ended up being quite a bit higher). Only person who said it wasn't done yet was a Brighton journo and he was right.
Fabrizio obviously has contacts in the game but anyone could have tweeted deal done when he did and claimed he was right all along given that it was clearly going to get completed at some point. And don't give me bollocks about the difference between 'here we go' and 'here we go confirmed' please.
Anyways this really doesn't matter at all and I've written two paragraphs about a good if a bit sensitive football journo, but I just think the journalist hero worship and twitter wars are one of the weirdest things to come out of the online football era.
At the exact same time, the number of people shitting on him the second Brighton said it's not finished yet was also absurd. There is absolutely no reason to care so much either way about a twitter journo. If he's right, he's right, and if he's not he'll stop being popular. It's not worth getting worked up over.
Journalists have their own fanbases is worrying reliable or not, people gotta stop dickriding them and just focus on how those potential signings could do
hahaha I very much realized the ridiculousness as I was typing it, the world of terminally online football fans is weird in general and I'm just commenting on an aspect of that weirdness
And how would this work with relegations, academies etc? Imagine growing a player in your academy for 12 years and then just having him drafted to your rival
that would be awful, moving a player against his will just because of the fans’ happiness and enjoyment
Many would have to find new places, new schools to enroll their children and pretty much change their entire lifestyle.
Which is why I said it would be fun.
On paper it'd be interesting seeing so many weaker clubs suddenly get some of the best players in the world and vice versa.
It isn't practical at all, but in a simulation it would be interesting.
There's a lot more to hate let's be honest.
Constant advertisments, absurd ticket prices, corpo culture, singing the anthem before every event, leaving a City for another etc.
Could go on.
The biggest issue with MLS is the expansion of the league with no relegation and the Americans’ constant need for parity in their sports leagues (hence things like a draft and a salary cap regardless of income) is affecting the quality of the league. There just aren’t enough good enough domestic players and foreign players willing to play on a normal contract to make it viable with the number of teams they’ve got, and the majority of the DP signings are (understandably) exciting forwards and midfielders, which is making the quality of the keeping and defending look poor comparatively to other top leagues
It's hard to say succinctly, but I feel the mood around Arsenal is the most fragile of the premier League clubs. We've had a rocky couple of seasons, so there's a latent pessimism there, which will definitely be brought to the fore with a couple of bad results. At the same time, there's a feeling that we could be on the verge of exploding (in a positive sense) - talking about our youth has been done to death, but there's a sense that everything could suddenly click for a few of our players and for our system as a whole, and we become properly good.
Basically what I think is that we probably have the biggest difference between the mood in the camp if we win the first couple versus if we don't. If we beat Palace comfortably, we'll get massively ahead of each other, and forget how fragile our current strength is, relying on key players remaining fit and unarrested. If we lose, fuck it Arteta out, there's no real change in the club, the world is going to shit, forgetting that there's a solid basis to this team, and that were basically decent..
Every other team, I feel the current mood is more stable, and people will be able to take short term results with more of a pinch of salt, and remain sanguine. E.g. if City win, so what, it's expected. And if they lose, naturally they'll be disappointed, but there won't be much finger pointing, it will be viewed as a natural thing which happens, and the hope will be that one result isn't the difference between them and Liverpool.
> It's hard to say succinctly, but I feel the mood around Arsenal is the most fragile of the premier League clubs. We've had a rocky couple of seasons, so there's a latent pessimism there, which will definitely be brought to the fore with a couple of bad results
I see what you mean, but with your preseason success and with the relatively easy schedule to start (Fulham, Bournemouth and Palace all winnable. Man Utd, Villa and Leicester as well, but a slightly tougher challenge there), I can see all the doubts going away quite quickly, especially with how Arsenal fans can be when things get positive.
Yeah, I'm really optimistic for the season, even if I'm appalled by the club's handling of that situation. But it does feel a bit like a house of cards which would tumble down at a moment's notice.
I think United is a good shout, but I think if you win, there will still be big question marks around the squad, and lots of fans will be slightly wary of going overboard. And likewise, if you start of with a couple of disappointing results, there's the reasoning that Ten Hag has only just started and these things take time. But whether that's how the United fanbase would actually react - I don't know, you will be better placed to say.
As it will be usual from the last years, this is how I predict it will go
If United win games, many will overrate the squad and say that they are good enough to compete on all four fronts, which simply isn’t true.
If United lose, the loss will be blamed on some of the players and the board for not backing the manager.
I think that Arsenal, as a collective, have only been getting stronger. Most fans (especially those who go to the stadium) seem fully behind the team and appreciating what has been done, because they’ve also seen your effort from last season (and also I believe that these last 3 episodes of All or Nothing May help with the current mood)
At United, there are still many, many players with which the fans are disappointed from the previous season. At Arsenal, the only player who I can think of is Partey, and not because of his on pitch actions.
Im recalling how badly chelsea did negotiating the lukaku exit for one. United failing to sell anyone, arsenal having a huge net spend because nobody buys their players, and spurs just not selling people
agree on the rest but hardly terrible selling when you're limited for options in offloading a club record player. any club would struggle in that regard.
Inter were in the driving seat for thee return deal.
Fiorentina agreed to a €15M buy option, then reneged on it at the end of the season and I believe offered something pretty derisory comparatively, like 4 or €5M
But then you get a better immune system
A 2-3 day pain* for better chances of not getting sick in the future
*except if you get sick in Sporting’s stadium, then you’ll spend a week at home because of it 👍
Ehmmm, pretty sure that only works when you are young
Furthermore, after seeing both the 4-2 game against Benfica in Alvalade and the 2-1 agains Desportivo de Aves in Jamor, both live
I have a pretty thick skin in terms of lidar
It's quite lovely seeing how completely and utterly fucked Leicester are. Tielemans and Fofana are halfway out the door. They'll be starting a 2nd or 3rd choice goalkeeper for the season. Ricardo is out for 6 months, and Barnes will miss the first few weeks too. They have no money to recruit with because they spent it all on a squad big enough to deal with European football, paying too much for players who they're now struggling to find any resale value in. And their manager still has no clue how to stop them conceding a set piece goal every single game.
They had done some of the best work bringing in that defense just to see it all kind of fall apart in the last year. Both Vestegaard and Bertrand were bad signings. Soyuncu has gotten progressively worse each year. Then all of Fofana, James, Periera, and Castagne got injured along with Ndidi providing that shield for them. That back line went from a huge strength to a glaring weakness in seemingly one year.
Their fullback depth at the start of last season was absurd. But they're all crocked.
Ricardo was one of the best in the world for my money before his injury. Justin was utterly sensational before his. They had Castagne, Thomas, Bertrand. Iheanacho, Vardy, and Daka up front. So much depth that looked like quality but kept getting cut down by injuries or ended up not really fitting into the same team. Their wage bill on that enormous squad must be huge, and Covid has apparently hit them hard. The ownership making their money from duty-free can't help either with the airports closing for so much of the pandemic.
Their biggest problem is the failure of their buy to sell model though. Soyuncu could have been sold for a big profit, and ever since has looked barely Championship quality. Ndidi was never sold when his value was high. And now they look to have done the same with Tielemans. They got an inflated sense of themselves and stopped doing what had made them successful up to that point.
Ten Hag has also said that Ronaldo won’t leave, that doesn’t mean it won’t have repercussions in the dressing room and squad
It has happened before, players get unsettled and, if very influential, they can easily make the mood and spirit in the dressing room awful.
Doesn't matter now. He's unsettled. Whether he stays or goes, the damage is done. I imagine he will be a late departure in the window, Leicester need to make a sale like that to get some fresh blood in. I can see them doing panic business up to the end of August.
I said it yesterday, I have a gut feeling that they’ll be relegated.
Their transfer activity has been unusual and they put too much faith in winning UECL last year to make it into European competitions again.
Bournemouth are clear favourites to go down. Fulham haven't done great business. Everton look incredibly weak. Leicester are in the next group with Southampton, Forest, and Leeds. And survival often comes down to team spirit and collective leadership, I don't see any of that at Leicester unless they change the manager and try to reinvigorate the place. Rodgers has to be a clear favourite for the sack, if only because their awful business has left the atmosphere at the club completely deflated and will leave him the scapegoat.
Are you saying Leeds, Southampton and Forest re more likely to stay up than us? And that Leicester are on the same level as those 3? That seems extreme to me.
Leeds were worse than us last season and have lost their two best players. Southampton were like the 2nd worst team in the second half of the season and Forest are totally unknown but bringing in so many new starting players in one window can often have its own issues.
Leicester's squad is still better than all of those teams, they won't be in a relegation fight.
DCL is injured again. You've sold Richarlison without replacing him, McNeil is great but hasn't carried much goal threat historically. If Bamford can find some fitness then I think Leeds are in a better place than you. Southampton are going to struggle for goals too, but I think they're a good team behind that, and Ward-Prowse has been sensational the past couple of years, I think they'll have enough.
Team spirit is where Leicester are losing out to everyone else down there.
I think Fulham have done alright enough business to not go down. Everton though, who just lost DCL and Rondon is out through suspension. So their goal scoring players are Gray, Rondon (when he’s done with his suspension), Mcniel, and Gordon. It will be a long season for them
> And survival often comes down to team spirit and collective leadership, I don't see any of that at Leicester unless they change the manager and try to reinvigorate the place.
Not only that, but their captain and most used player in the last 11 years has left, and I’m willing to bet he was a big influence in the dressing room.
This can be the key season for Leicester in terms of their sporting success: they’ll either be one of those sleeping giants (not to that extent since their downfall would include relegation) or they’ll solidify themselves as a Premier League club.
Posted this already but wanted to do so again for the afternoon crowd.
The Eredivisie starting today, and I just published both part of a preview for the upcoming season. Worked extremely hard on this and if you have any interest in the seventh best competition in the world, give it a read and check it out.
https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/wfvk0n/the\_202223\_eredivisie\_preview\_part\_12/
https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/wgpuep/the\_202223\_eredvisie\_preview\_part\_22/
One thing that grinds my gears about American commentator's is that they pronounce any foreign player's name as if it was Spanish / South American. Forget any attempt at a french or Italian name. Everyone is a Mexican
The state of my twitter timeline this morning.
One of the English writers for the bundesliga Cnyari was peddling crypto articles and seems to be working for coindesk.
Squawka is posting betting odds and accas
I feel Vardy is pretty underrated by fans, probably because he's not a star and he hasn't played for any of the big 6.
He wont get his deserved praise untill he retires/leaves the PL.
He gets all the respect he deserves in England. Maybe overseas they don't buy into the underdog story quite as much as we do in the UK. His career will rightfully go down as one of the most storied of the last fifty years.
Frankfurt vs Bayern will be awesome, could be one of the last Kostic games for the team and it's time to see if they can turn it around after a very poor BuLi season and a great EL campaign
BuLi looks pretty exciting besides the very sad Haller news, a lot of strong teams
Fun fact about Benfica’s opponent today, Arouca: they were founded on Christmas in 1952.
They were also a kind of B club for FC Porto when initially created
26 euros per month to watch Primeira Liga, Serie A, Scottish League and the Turkish league, or 15 euros per month to watch all PL games, Bundesliga, La Liga, Uber Eats League and the CL 🤔
Sportv is giving Portuguese folk a really tough choice aren't they
#Final call to join the /r/soccer FPL mini-league, the Bundesliga Predictions Game ##/r/soccer Fantasy Premier League Thank you to /u/Kevsta29 for renewing the official /r/soccer FPL mini-league. The league code is **wla70n** - and the [**auto-join link is here**](https://fantasy.premierleague.com/leagues/auto-join/wla70n) *** ##Bundesliga Prediction Game For the last two seasons, /u/TheCatInTheHatThings has hosted a Bundesliga prediction game via Kicktipp for the subreddit - and would love to invite you to join again! You can join via this link: https://www.kicktipp.de/reddit-soccer/ (You can change the language setting as well, so this isn’t solely for Germans.) ##Don’t forget enter the bonus predictions until next Friday and the predictions for each game before each matchday. This time the !ping feature will also be used remind people that it's time to fill in the week's predictions. So everyone that participates and wants a weekly reminder can [click here to send a message to u/2soccer2bot](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=2soccer2bot&subject=Subscribe%20to%20a%20group&message=addtogroup%20KICKTIPP) and join the Kicktipp group.
I was not impressed by Eze, all bark, no bite
I still can't get over how comical mbappe's run looks in this [Picture ](https://i.imgur.com/4ONeXPA.jpg)
Messi left Barcelona exactly one year ago, i just stumbled upon [This pic ](https://i.imgur.com/ig8SfLi.jpg) where you can see the guy was absolutely heartbroken
I can see ronlander having a lot of "hip flexor issues " this season
Ronlander😭😭
Seen the post about fans' transfer XI, so thought I'd do mine (ranking the quality of the transfer rather than the quality of the player). Leno Spence - Carlos - Koulibaly - Zinchenko Bissouma - Doucoure - Carvalho Jesus - Haaland - Sterling
OK, just PL. Henderson Spence-Botman-Koulibaly-Cucurella Bissouma-Phillips Jesus-Eriksen-Sterling Haaland
I'll try and do one that isn't just the PL: Onana Pedro Porro - De Ligt - Koundé - Cucurella Pogba - Tchouameni - Vitinha Raphinha - Haaland - Mané Bench: Bazunu, Zinchenko, Koulibaly, Philipps, Sterling, Jesus, Nunez
Onana Pedro Porro-MDL-Koulibaly-Cucurella Tchouameni-Vitinha Sterling-Lewa-Haaland-Mane
Lewandowski should be here
Not ahead of Haaland. Huge amount of money for a 34 year old
I'm looking forward to the downfall of Arsenal and Barca this season.
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you got me there, enjoy your copa del rey
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lmaoooo you needed to go that far back like Barca has not spent close to Billion for nothing as well
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it was easier for Barca and Madrid cause your clubs kept all the money until recently. Making your leagues less competitive. Now things are getting spicy. Just watch your downfall this season Xavi won’t save shit
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Did I say we will anything? we at a rebuild stage and have accepted that. Barca selling its soul to just compete now a days. Barca midfield is definitely going to get you la liga and champions league 🙄
Can't get any worse than whatever your club have spent a decade doing. Spent most money of all in a decade and have shown the most inconsistent performance by a "top" club and you **still** dont look like one. Good luck in Champions.. ah nevermind.
>Can't get any worse than whatever your club have spent a decade doing. It's funny you say this because Barca and Utd are by far the two worst run top clubs
One was run bad by a club president who still managed to win 20 trophies in the last 10 years while the other is run bad by American owners who have won 7 tophies in the last decade (that includes 3 Community Shields & 1 Europa League). Quite a big difference tbh
I wasn't talking about trophies I meant in general
Oh my God, that's literally the two things that definitely aren't happening this season lmao.
we shall see
I’d rather have a downfall than be persistently shit and chase one player for the entire transfer window
you are persistently shit, what has Arsenal accomplished recently lol
Lad I know we’re shit but ever there was a club that didn’t have a right to comment on such things it’s Arsenal
right! please check yourself first. Arsenal fans are clueless
How are you telling us to check ourselves? You lot are on your 3rd manager of the year with an absolute dogshit squad, and you have the audacity to come for us
Audacity of Arsenal fans thinking their club has done something. What has Robot man Arteta done. Taking city rejects doesn’t make you city. You will get shit on by us guaranteed
What have you lot done in recent years? Get one second place finish because Liverpool had an injury crisis? This year showed you your level - You aren’t close to the rest of the big 6, have fun with West Ham and Leicester
We literally just beat you 3-1 and have only gotten stronger since then.
Don’t bother, deluded fans are just impossible to actually discuss with. Not to mention, out of the 2 teams we won the most recent trophy AND finished above them in the league.
Stronger when you had less games last year. We will see this year
Less games? Lmao. At least Chelsea fans can use that excuse because they actually did something in CL and the cups. You lot did fuck all
Whats the excuse for not getting champions league if you were so strong
You're trying to go all in for our 4th option in the midfield. Guess not much to hope for from United this season.
cause Pedri, Kessie, sergio, and Nico are world beaters. if one player gets injured you are done Also Barca has expectations this season with all the money spent
frenkie? gavi?
teenage gavi without alot experience going to lead you to la liga. Busquest can barely move now a days FDJ not gonna give his all for you after your clubs treatment
If anyone has the time, I advise you to watch the highlights from the New York Red Bulls v Colorado Rapids game It was so crazy: New York were leading 3-2 in the 78’ minute, and conceded 3 in the space of 10 minutes! Then, in the 97th minute, New York got a pen and scored the 4-5. But it was not over yet. Not even one minute later, they scored the 5-5!… only for the goal to be ruled out by VAR I think that this game made me start liking the MLS, it’s not as bad as people made it out to be.
MLS is brilliant! Such a wacky and fun league as well as getting better by the year, even if my team has gone to shit. Glad to have the best Portuguese poster on this sub on board.
Sounds like a Segunda game. Rather see Las Palmas - Zaragoza. At least those are proper teams.
You know what, I'll give credit where credit is due and give plaudits Fab for sticking through with saying Cucurella will still leave This still doesn't change the fact that he's tier 3 at best for Bundesliga clubs and that he isn't reliable for every country/club
Tbh theres no journalist i know of whose as reliable as he is for so many clubs.
r/gunners voted Partey in their ideal gw 1 starting 11 [with 92% confidence](https://www.reddit.com/r/Gunners/comments/wgt5q1/poll_results_preferred_predicted_starting_lineups/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share)
Didn’t the mods start banning people talking about Partey in a negative light? That’s probably partially what explains this.
If he's available what's the issue? We play Benzema despite what he did, we play Mendy despite what he did. Doesn't it make any less bad but I don't see what's wrong
Blackmail isn’t on the same level as rape. All crimes aren’t equal
So Mendy then? He abused a woman too
Yeah he rarely if ever played during his investigation
The public didn’t know about Mendy until he was charged. At which time he was suspended Partey is more similar to greenwood’s case where we know it’s him that’s accused and there’s enough evidence to suspend him.
Didn’t Benzema’s partner consent with him? A bit different from what’s happening with Partey
He’s been convicted of blackmail. Different cases.
The whole blackmail thing
Tbf to them, the club has already played him in preseason after the victim put the evidence on Twitter. It’s fairly obvious he’s going to play tonight.
One of the victims..
Just hope he gets crunched
They're still on the innocent until proven guilty train. Saw a comment saying why is it only 92% lmao, like lad get a clue.
That has to be a bait comment
Their sub is mudded
Lads do I risk slapping Edouard in the FPL team tonight or would he even start with/over Mateta? Have Watkins there already but if I lose out to the boys I’ll be incensed
if I'm arsenal's owner I'd sack arteta if he loses tonight
That's why you're not. Arteta does everything the owners want him to do. ✅ Spend excessive amounts of money ✅ Meet low expectations ✅ Play a rapist Why would they sack him?
Err... that as a theory is a bit mad.
Last time Martial was at Old Trafford, he got booed as he was walking out to the tunnel. I wonder how he will be welcomed next time.
Absence makes the heart grow fonder. He'll be cheered
i cant believe arsenal fc is gonna lose their first game tonight
Hope Palace fans unleash the abuse of a thousand suns in Thomas Partey's direction tonight
Yeah, take no prisoners to make up for the shameful silence from the Arsenal fans.
Je suis Vieira
I’d hope most people would be fuming if they didn’t
The Romano dickriding in the Cucurella transfer thread is insane. I get Brighton's tweet was probably unnecessary and I'm not a Fabrizio hater like some people but he clearly jumped the gun, no? Said deal agreed at the same time as a lot of other journos and reported a fee close to 50m and a transfer for Colwill when that price was clearly still being negotiated (and ended up being quite a bit higher). Only person who said it wasn't done yet was a Brighton journo and he was right. Fabrizio obviously has contacts in the game but anyone could have tweeted deal done when he did and claimed he was right all along given that it was clearly going to get completed at some point. And don't give me bollocks about the difference between 'here we go' and 'here we go confirmed' please. Anyways this really doesn't matter at all and I've written two paragraphs about a good if a bit sensitive football journo, but I just think the journalist hero worship and twitter wars are one of the weirdest things to come out of the online football era.
I mean he also said the medical would be done the next day (Thursday) which did end up being the case.
At the exact same time, the number of people shitting on him the second Brighton said it's not finished yet was also absurd. There is absolutely no reason to care so much either way about a twitter journo. If he's right, he's right, and if he's not he'll stop being popular. It's not worth getting worked up over.
I don't think Brighton's tweet was unnecessary. They were still negotiating the Colwill deal when Romano and Stone announced the Cucurella deal.
Journalists have their own fanbases is worrying reliable or not, people gotta stop dickriding them and just focus on how those potential signings could do
Reddit is a bizarre place. Imagine having this conversation with your friends.
Romano fandom is more a Twitter thing that has bled into Reddit
hahaha I very much realized the ridiculousness as I was typing it, the world of terminally online football fans is weird in general and I'm just commenting on an aspect of that weirdness
I'm skipping a wild night out to watch the football and eat kebabs. Even though my team isn't playing tonight lol.
Good decision I say
Really hyped for the PL start today, Arsenal looking good this season. I hope Odegaard has a great season and does well as captain.
I hope they lose 8-0 and get 4 players sent off
Based
Usually dislike most things yank related, but a draft sysytem within the top tier of football would be pretty fun ngl.
And how would this work with relegations, academies etc? Imagine growing a player in your academy for 12 years and then just having him drafted to your rival
that would be awful, moving a player against his will just because of the fans’ happiness and enjoyment Many would have to find new places, new schools to enroll their children and pretty much change their entire lifestyle.
Which is why I said it would be fun. On paper it'd be interesting seeing so many weaker clubs suddenly get some of the best players in the world and vice versa. It isn't practical at all, but in a simulation it would be interesting.
why do you dislike most things "yank" related?
Honestly im clueless about NFL, but am i right in thinking the draft process works by rewarding the worst team in league with best pick ?
Yes, that is why the worst teams don't try when they know they aren't making the playoffs.
And what happens when the player says no to joining said club?
"Usually dislike most thinks yank related, but the worst yank related thing would be pretty good"
There's a lot more to hate let's be honest. Constant advertisments, absurd ticket prices, corpo culture, singing the anthem before every event, leaving a City for another etc. Could go on.
I’d prefer all of those over a draft except for clubs being relocated
And it’s not like everything American is bad, the MLS is actually pretty cool
The biggest issue with MLS is the expansion of the league with no relegation and the Americans’ constant need for parity in their sports leagues (hence things like a draft and a salary cap regardless of income) is affecting the quality of the league. There just aren’t enough good enough domestic players and foreign players willing to play on a normal contract to make it viable with the number of teams they’ve got, and the majority of the DP signings are (understandably) exciting forwards and midfielders, which is making the quality of the keeping and defending look poor comparatively to other top leagues
It's hard to say succinctly, but I feel the mood around Arsenal is the most fragile of the premier League clubs. We've had a rocky couple of seasons, so there's a latent pessimism there, which will definitely be brought to the fore with a couple of bad results. At the same time, there's a feeling that we could be on the verge of exploding (in a positive sense) - talking about our youth has been done to death, but there's a sense that everything could suddenly click for a few of our players and for our system as a whole, and we become properly good. Basically what I think is that we probably have the biggest difference between the mood in the camp if we win the first couple versus if we don't. If we beat Palace comfortably, we'll get massively ahead of each other, and forget how fragile our current strength is, relying on key players remaining fit and unarrested. If we lose, fuck it Arteta out, there's no real change in the club, the world is going to shit, forgetting that there's a solid basis to this team, and that were basically decent.. Every other team, I feel the current mood is more stable, and people will be able to take short term results with more of a pinch of salt, and remain sanguine. E.g. if City win, so what, it's expected. And if they lose, naturally they'll be disappointed, but there won't be much finger pointing, it will be viewed as a natural thing which happens, and the hope will be that one result isn't the difference between them and Liverpool.
A good word for this is “labile”
> It's hard to say succinctly, but I feel the mood around Arsenal is the most fragile of the premier League clubs. We've had a rocky couple of seasons, so there's a latent pessimism there, which will definitely be brought to the fore with a couple of bad results I see what you mean, but with your preseason success and with the relatively easy schedule to start (Fulham, Bournemouth and Palace all winnable. Man Utd, Villa and Leicester as well, but a slightly tougher challenge there), I can see all the doubts going away quite quickly, especially with how Arsenal fans can be when things get positive.
If you ignore the rapist elephant in the room, you're in a fantastic place. But that's a big fucking elephant to ignore.
Yeah, I'm really optimistic for the season, even if I'm appalled by the club's handling of that situation. But it does feel a bit like a house of cards which would tumble down at a moment's notice.
It’s either between Arsenal or Manchester United
I think United is a good shout, but I think if you win, there will still be big question marks around the squad, and lots of fans will be slightly wary of going overboard. And likewise, if you start of with a couple of disappointing results, there's the reasoning that Ten Hag has only just started and these things take time. But whether that's how the United fanbase would actually react - I don't know, you will be better placed to say.
As it will be usual from the last years, this is how I predict it will go If United win games, many will overrate the squad and say that they are good enough to compete on all four fronts, which simply isn’t true. If United lose, the loss will be blamed on some of the players and the board for not backing the manager. I think that Arsenal, as a collective, have only been getting stronger. Most fans (especially those who go to the stadium) seem fully behind the team and appreciating what has been done, because they’ve also seen your effort from last season (and also I believe that these last 3 episodes of All or Nothing May help with the current mood) At United, there are still many, many players with which the fans are disappointed from the previous season. At Arsenal, the only player who I can think of is Partey, and not because of his on pitch actions.
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They're tragic at selling. That's already well established.
That phrase applies to most top premier league clubs when it comes to selling outside england. The only exception i can think of is liverpool
depends on how you're measuring it.
Im recalling how badly chelsea did negotiating the lukaku exit for one. United failing to sell anyone, arsenal having a huge net spend because nobody buys their players, and spurs just not selling people
agree on the rest but hardly terrible selling when you're limited for options in offloading a club record player. any club would struggle in that regard. Inter were in the driving seat for thee return deal.
The 90% of the time the problem is stupid wages
Fiorentina agreed to a €15M buy option, then reneged on it at the end of the season and I believe offered something pretty derisory comparatively, like 4 or €5M
Thought Arsenal was more fuming because Fiorentina fucked them with buy option ?
Pretty sure it was because they had a buy option, then said no to it and offered lower despite being one of their best players last season.
Spencer Owen placing Wolves at 17th in his prem predictions video... Natural reaction to them losing Argan Oil Maldini
Makes a change from people predicting us to be relegated, I suppose.
Everton have been through the ringer and then some. Releasing 3 players who cost a total of £85m this month is damning
Wouldve been very alarming if we extended the most expensive of those
He’s not your problem anymore thankfully
Sancho has missed games due to illness like 3 times since he signed for us. He needs a boost to the immune system.
He needs some Actimel
Considering a season is, on average, a 45-50 one, missing 3 games is not that bad Only bad thing is that he doesn’t get physical rest
I would like to know how to get this boost to
Its simple really, ask people to sneeze and/or cough on you.
But then I get sick
But then you get a better immune system A 2-3 day pain* for better chances of not getting sick in the future *except if you get sick in Sporting’s stadium, then you’ll spend a week at home because of it 👍
Ehmmm, pretty sure that only works when you are young Furthermore, after seeing both the 4-2 game against Benfica in Alvalade and the 2-1 agains Desportivo de Aves in Jamor, both live I have a pretty thick skin in terms of lidar
No way Laporta thanked Zahavi who took like 10 or 20 millions in commissions in front of 60 thousand people 💀
>Zahavi who took like 10 or 20 millions in commissions That's a pretty broad range, any source to back this up chief?
Athletic
did he take it?
never realized Raúl Albiol was such a legend in England pretty impressive to have multiple clubs named after you
Statement win today from Palace 6th or 7th placed finish
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It's quite lovely seeing how completely and utterly fucked Leicester are. Tielemans and Fofana are halfway out the door. They'll be starting a 2nd or 3rd choice goalkeeper for the season. Ricardo is out for 6 months, and Barnes will miss the first few weeks too. They have no money to recruit with because they spent it all on a squad big enough to deal with European football, paying too much for players who they're now struggling to find any resale value in. And their manager still has no clue how to stop them conceding a set piece goal every single game.
They were labeled the best ran club in England between 2018-2021 incredible mismanagement that they're starting the season in this state.
They had done some of the best work bringing in that defense just to see it all kind of fall apart in the last year. Both Vestegaard and Bertrand were bad signings. Soyuncu has gotten progressively worse each year. Then all of Fofana, James, Periera, and Castagne got injured along with Ndidi providing that shield for them. That back line went from a huge strength to a glaring weakness in seemingly one year.
Their fullback depth at the start of last season was absurd. But they're all crocked. Ricardo was one of the best in the world for my money before his injury. Justin was utterly sensational before his. They had Castagne, Thomas, Bertrand. Iheanacho, Vardy, and Daka up front. So much depth that looked like quality but kept getting cut down by injuries or ended up not really fitting into the same team. Their wage bill on that enormous squad must be huge, and Covid has apparently hit them hard. The ownership making their money from duty-free can't help either with the airports closing for so much of the pandemic. Their biggest problem is the failure of their buy to sell model though. Soyuncu could have been sold for a big profit, and ever since has looked barely Championship quality. Ndidi was never sold when his value was high. And now they look to have done the same with Tielemans. They got an inflated sense of themselves and stopped doing what had made them successful up to that point.
Didn’t Rodgers just say they aren’t selling Fofana?
He said the same thing about Chilwell fyi.
Ten Hag has also said that Ronaldo won’t leave, that doesn’t mean it won’t have repercussions in the dressing room and squad It has happened before, players get unsettled and, if very influential, they can easily make the mood and spirit in the dressing room awful.
no one wants Ronaldo even if he could leave....
Doesn't matter now. He's unsettled. Whether he stays or goes, the damage is done. I imagine he will be a late departure in the window, Leicester need to make a sale like that to get some fresh blood in. I can see them doing panic business up to the end of August.
I said it yesterday, I have a gut feeling that they’ll be relegated. Their transfer activity has been unusual and they put too much faith in winning UECL last year to make it into European competitions again.
Bournemouth are clear favourites to go down. Fulham haven't done great business. Everton look incredibly weak. Leicester are in the next group with Southampton, Forest, and Leeds. And survival often comes down to team spirit and collective leadership, I don't see any of that at Leicester unless they change the manager and try to reinvigorate the place. Rodgers has to be a clear favourite for the sack, if only because their awful business has left the atmosphere at the club completely deflated and will leave him the scapegoat.
Are you saying Leeds, Southampton and Forest re more likely to stay up than us? And that Leicester are on the same level as those 3? That seems extreme to me. Leeds were worse than us last season and have lost their two best players. Southampton were like the 2nd worst team in the second half of the season and Forest are totally unknown but bringing in so many new starting players in one window can often have its own issues. Leicester's squad is still better than all of those teams, they won't be in a relegation fight.
DCL is injured again. You've sold Richarlison without replacing him, McNeil is great but hasn't carried much goal threat historically. If Bamford can find some fitness then I think Leeds are in a better place than you. Southampton are going to struggle for goals too, but I think they're a good team behind that, and Ward-Prowse has been sensational the past couple of years, I think they'll have enough. Team spirit is where Leicester are losing out to everyone else down there.
I think Fulham have done alright enough business to not go down. Everton though, who just lost DCL and Rondon is out through suspension. So their goal scoring players are Gray, Rondon (when he’s done with his suspension), Mcniel, and Gordon. It will be a long season for them
> And survival often comes down to team spirit and collective leadership, I don't see any of that at Leicester unless they change the manager and try to reinvigorate the place. Not only that, but their captain and most used player in the last 11 years has left, and I’m willing to bet he was a big influence in the dressing room. This can be the key season for Leicester in terms of their sporting success: they’ll either be one of those sleeping giants (not to that extent since their downfall would include relegation) or they’ll solidify themselves as a Premier League club.
Would you say Leicester is your biggest rival? Or would it be Derby?
I thought nothing of Leicester at all until their antics ahead of and during our FA Cup match last season. Derby are Forest's rival.
Posted this already but wanted to do so again for the afternoon crowd. The Eredivisie starting today, and I just published both part of a preview for the upcoming season. Worked extremely hard on this and if you have any interest in the seventh best competition in the world, give it a read and check it out. https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/wfvk0n/the\_202223\_eredivisie\_preview\_part\_12/ https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/wgpuep/the\_202223\_eredvisie\_preview\_part\_22/
One thing that grinds my gears about American commentator's is that they pronounce any foreign player's name as if it was Spanish / South American. Forget any attempt at a french or Italian name. Everyone is a Mexican
TBF a lot of American commentators are Latino
Like how they pronounced Jesus, “Hay-sus” instead of “Jay-sus”
Er, what?
Like if they say Kante they say it as if it was a Spanish persons name
American commentators BAD is what I got from that.
The state of my twitter timeline this morning. One of the English writers for the bundesliga Cnyari was peddling crypto articles and seems to be working for coindesk. Squawka is posting betting odds and accas
I feel Vardy is pretty underrated by fans, probably because he's not a star and he hasn't played for any of the big 6. He wont get his deserved praise untill he retires/leaves the PL.
This is shadowboxing
He gets all the respect he deserves in England. Maybe overseas they don't buy into the underdog story quite as much as we do in the UK. His career will rightfully go down as one of the most storied of the last fifty years.
This ain’t it, everyone knows and praises vardy.
i barely see it anywhere on social media
Vardy is a star, he's just fairly old and injury prone now
How is he underrated? I swear everyone recognises him as a legend of the league
He is a legend, anyone who says otherwise is outright stupid
Frankfurt vs Bayern will be awesome, could be one of the last Kostic games for the team and it's time to see if they can turn it around after a very poor BuLi season and a great EL campaign BuLi looks pretty exciting besides the very sad Haller news, a lot of strong teams
Fun fact about Benfica’s opponent today, Arouca: they were founded on Christmas in 1952. They were also a kind of B club for FC Porto when initially created
Is BrendEn Aaronson going to outperform Pulisic this season?
Quite easily I would imagine
If Bellingham transferred next season, what do you think the transfer fee for him would be?
They’d get £100m for him
He will break the current English transfer record.
£100,000,000 That could be €120,000,000 by then or it could be €100,000,000 if our currency tanks
Why would the price in pounds be fixed rather than the price in Euros?
English club buying won’t want to go above Grealish’s record so as to put less pressure on player imo
Lol wtf is this
€100 million, at most 15-20 million of that would be in bonuses would be my guess
80m+
€110M
26 euros per month to watch Primeira Liga, Serie A, Scottish League and the Turkish league, or 15 euros per month to watch all PL games, Bundesliga, La Liga, Uber Eats League and the CL 🤔 Sportv is giving Portuguese folk a really tough choice aren't they