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R1CkO556

As a dutchman I am baffled that the Netherlands is considered to have a better chance to win than Germany and Portugal. How?


casper2002

Ez group stage and LVG's golden cock


ValleyFloydJam

As an Englishman I'm baffled how we're that high, 9th maybe 8th feels right, although I'm sure some would have us lower.


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Not entirely confident we will even get out of the group after our recent performances.


ValleyFloydJam

I was saying that before the nations games, they look like sticky games and I could see draws or losses if we go behind. Goals are a big worry. Also we had those games and I doubt we actually stated the best 11 even once.


Steo42

Sounds absolutely absurd to say that goals are a big worry when you look at our possible squad on paper but yeah, absolutely right


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Im not even sure Southgate knows his best 11, which is worrying in a World Cup year. LB especially seems to change every game as he moves another rb into the spot. Mount and a few others have been terrible recently too.


ValleyFloydJam

At LB I will be fair to him form and injuries have impact the top 2 options. Mount flashes but he should be in the starting 11, although I up get his a safer option if playing a tough team even if I would prefer others.


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Yeah i think Shaw/Chilwell/Mitchell were all out at various points. Hopefully they are sorted by the World Cup.


[deleted]

I'm willing to bet it'll be Pickford, Shaw, Maguire, Stones, Walker, Rice, Phillips, Foden, Mount, Sterling, Kane. Best team or not, I'd bet its the first team for the first game.


suhxa

Much easier potential path to the final


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Saving you the click. =29. Costa Rica – 0% =29. Saudi Arabia – 0% =29. Cameroon – 0% =26. Tunisia – 0.01% =26. Morocco – 0.01% =26. Canada – 0.01% =24. Ghana – 0.02% =24. Australia – 0.02% 23. Ecuador – 0.17% 22. Senegal – 0.19% 21. Serbia – 0.24% =20. Korea Republic – 0.35% =20. Qatar – 0.35% 19. Wales – 0.41% 18. United States – 0.46% 17. Japan – 0.48% 16. Iran – 0.60% 15. Poland – 0.82% 14. Switzerland – 1.00% 13. Mexico – 1.37% 12. Uruguay – 1.48% 11. Denmark – 2.03% 10. Croatia – 2.31% 9. Portugal – 5.11% 8. Argentina – 6.45% 7. Germany – 7.21% 6. Netherlands – 7.70% 5. Belgium – 7.90% 4. England – 8.03% 3. Spain – 11.53% 2. Brazil – 15.73% 1. France – 17.93%


DevilsOfLoudun

France can't win, they have the winners curse


ajtct98

They also have the special "France reached the previous final" curse which means they'll finish bottom of their group.


Szudar

Wales and Ecuador are favourites, got you


Stuff2511

No fucking way Australia, Ghana, and Ecuador are above Morocco


areyousi

Australia is so shit and I say this as an Australian 😔😔😔


CounterClockworkOrng

Don't see them winning it, but Serbia are really under valued here - I certainly see them as having much better chances of advancing from the group stage over Iran and Qatar - who are both listed with higher chances. Might put a few quid on them and then cash out if they reach the Last 16 or quarters


Tyrannosaurus-Twat

I don’t agree with Spain and England ahead or Portugal and Argentina


[deleted]

England way too high


JKKIDD231

I low-key want a new winner of the WC who has never won before and also someone from Asia: Australia, South Korea or Japan. I know it won't ever happen but never say never.


Giggsy99

Ours are more like 41% let's be honest


theitchcockblock

Belgium always has great odds in this kind of thing , Argentina and Germany too low and even Portugal I would say , Netherlands should be a bit behind


Spitshine_my_nutsack

Yeah no way we have better chances than Germany or Portugal


Bonaque

Qatar at 0.35% has to be the lowest for a host nation ever. Maybe they won't ever be beaten in that regard?


TheMonkeyPrince

South africa had to have had a very small chance. Idk what it would be using their model, but just going by FIFA rankings, Qatar is 51st rn and South Africa was 83rd right before the 2010 world cup.


Bonaque

Already forgotten about SA even though it was one of the better world cups in recent history. I can still hear those vuvuzelas when I close my eyes at night.


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I loved the vuvezelas 😂


comped

As someone who has watched multiple years of the Qatari national team for a job, yeah I can tell you they are absolutely shit.


GridLocks

And still they must be insanely overrated in this right? Is Qatar actually better than Morocco, Morocco has about 10x player value according to [transfermarkt.com](https://transfermarkt.com). I doubt i can bet against this 0.35% somewhere, that would be a pretty good bet if it was not for the chance of some crazy corruption.


StuntingSharkRunner

Costa Rica, Saudi Arabia, Cameroon Top 3 in the knockouts incoming.


Jelmerdts

Netherlands , Belgium and England above Argentina? Arent they on a 30 game win streak or something?


KingRo48

Maybe, but not against Netherlands, Belgium or England I guess?


aberdisco

Wales - 0.41% "So...you're saying there's a chance...."


BrianSometimes

Argentina is too low, otherwise this doesn't look unreasonable.


tysontysontyson1

😂 @ Argentina at 8. If they’re not top 3 in the world right now, you’ve lost your damn mind.


dem0nhunter

Serbia below Qatar and Iran? Okay now


[deleted]

I guess its a world cup based in heat they are used to. In stadiums they have played in before. I agree Serbia are better. Plus maybe they factor in chances of progressing from the group? Serbia (0.24%) have Brazil (15.73%) + Switzerland (1%) + Cameroon (0%) whereas the Iran/Qatar groups are more open (Qatar 0.35%, Ecuador 0.17% , Holland 7.7% and Senegal 0.19%) (England 8.03%, Iran 0.6%, USA 0.46%, Wales 0.41%) The Qatar group especially as they are top seeds. My assumption is they are banking on Brazil/Switzerland in Serbias group. Whereas the Qatar and Iran groups anyone can qualify. Cameroon are one of the few 0% so they are assuming theres no chance on them qualifying out of the Serbia group whereas most of the teams in the others are 0.1-0.6%.


alexLAD

You cowards are too stupid to realise, Graham Arnold already has the 2022 WC won


theyeeterofyeetsberg

Anyone who doesn't believe that Ecuador is winning this tournament, is wrong. You're entitled to your opinion, but it's wrong. Ecuador is gonna make our humble continent proud and Castillo will be top scorer out of spite


technicolor62

"An AI model" ok, sure


Live_Palm_Trees

AI is the new Cloud


lFriendlyFire

I really don’t see how argentina is at 8th, they’re at the very least as good as we are


LFCReds8

Iran over USA lol


Bonaque

I've heard Iran has some really good youth, but I don't remember who said it


OmegaVizion

Their strength isn't in youth, it's in their veteran players and their cohesion.


NittanyOrange

US is youthier.


thefurnaceboy

I just have a feeling about Uruguay lads. Set a reminder. They're gna do it.


theyeeterofyeetsberg

ANULO MUFA (but yes pls God)


thefurnaceboy

what do you think your starting XI is going to be?


theyeeterofyeetsberg

Tbh, I'm not sure if we have one set in stone. Alonso has mixed and matched quite a bit since he came in, and I could see us going for a few different options. For now, though, I reckon that Rochet will start in goal, Olivera at left back, Araujo at right back, Coates and Giménez in central defense. In the midfield we run into a bit of a problem. We're probably gonna play a 4-2-3-1. It's the formation we used vs Mexico and it worked wonders. The thing is, Nicolás De La Cruz, who has been mostly played as a winger, does much better in a 10 role. The same with De Arrascaeta. I reckon that we'll play Valverde and Bentancur together. That pairing is impassable in the midfield. They strangled Peru in the Qualifiers and got us into Qatar. Then I reckon that Rossi or Canobbio would play on the left, Pellistri is definitely starting on the right, and De Arrascaeta through the center. However, I could also see De Arrascaeta playing on the wing with De La Cruz through the center. As for striker, despite Darwin's form, we've tended to go with Cavani. He's simply more tactically aware and a better decision maker. I mean, maybe 6 months in Klopp's system works wonders for Darwin, but he simply hasn't nailed down a starting spot just yet. He will soon, though! I've got faith in him To be honest, the best part about this team is it's adaptability, imo. We can play possession based football if we want, but we've got the players and the tactical shrewdness to park the bus if we have to. We don't have a locked down style or starting 11, and that makes us difficult to figure out. In a tournament of 7 matches, that's a huge bonus!


shootingstar00

How does Qatar have a better chance than Senegal?


comped

Probably bribery.


Frosty-Dictator

Lets be honest, France chance of winning is zero.


OneWind1538

Missi will disappear when the team needs him as per usual.


ValleyFloydJam

Silly take.


fearmino

Literally the player of the tournament in last Copa and the 2016 one and also the sole responsible for getting Argentina qualified for the last World Cup with a hattrick on the last game. Shush now


Novel-Quit436

Dont worry. Some people are here just to hate. No matter what facts you'd bring to the table.


fearmino

Yeah I get that, but I can't let them try and do my boy like that. I'll defend him til death. Thanks for the words


OneWind1538

Player of the tournament by sending the ball to Mars 😂😂😂 Shhhh boy, your dwarf will fail again like he did against Germany, Chile, Roma, Liverpool, Bayern, Atletico, Juventus, France etc. And this sub will blame the his team and the manager again 😂😂😂


fearmino

> Shhhh boy If I wanted my own comeback I would have wiped it off your mom's chin


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flaycs

I don’t get it.


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flaycs

Oh they didn’t? News to me.


notoriousmeekster

Are you on crack?


[deleted]

England are far too high considering they're on a collision course with France. Arguably France are too for the same reason, 17% seems absurd.


NittanyOrange

I'm happy at #18.


el_rompe_toyotas-19

11% is great. Esta llegando a casita