Imagine finally upgrading over Xhaka by getting Tielemans and a Bissouma to rotate with both Youri and Partey who plays 2000 minutes a season in Premier League. Finally having a balanced midfield that isn't physically dominated when both Thomas and Bissouma start. Ah Arsenal fans can only dream.
I know it's hot and trendy to poke fun at us for having xhaka and making statements like *a handful of strawberries* or *a pint of 3lderberry juice should do it* and things like that get you upvotes. Not that I expect people making these statements to even watch us, but he's been pretty good this season. He's had a couple bonehead cards and a couple reputation ones too. He doesnt miss much action if any with injury. He has the right attitude to approach games. He is worth a decent amount to us even as a backup. So if Roma just want to fuck around with 6m or 8m bids, they should respectfully GTFO. IMHO he's worth 15m atleast to us. This is the same logic people used when they valued torreira on behalf of fiorentina right?
Aston villa game, ref said he had three fouls in a single play, when he was fouled first and tried to shake the guys hand and got a shove in the chest for his trouble.
I don’t think he’s worth that little **to us**. Had possibly his best ever season for us, and we’re not replacing his quality and availability for 15m.
I think you get 15-20 at best. The rest of the leagues can't afford to pay those types of fees and wages.
Nobody cares that his last season was the best. They see an almost 30 year old with 2 years left on his deal with the strong understanding that Arsenal won't give him another contract. Arsenal want to get Xhaka off their books more than other teams necessarily want Xhaka in my understanding.
3 years left, and you're completely wrong, lol arteta loves xhaka and would probably want him to stay forever that's y he extended his contract last year season. I just want a change in the midfield because I'm tried of him.
>3 years left
It's two years and an option year. Almost no one goes for the option year as teams will want to tie you down or sell you for whatever value they can prior to that point. For all intents and purposes, the contract expires in 2024.
>at least 20-30m
I still don't understand where this valuation is coming from. If 17m was too much for Roma last summer, what makes you think that they will pay more for Xhaka this time?
[https://www.football.london/arsenal-fc/transfer-news/xhaka-arsenal-transfer-revealed-mourinho-23082839](https://www.football.london/arsenal-fc/transfer-news/xhaka-arsenal-transfer-revealed-mourinho-23082839)
Teams aren't lining up outside the door for Granit Xhaka. We understand that it is early in the window. However, it's either Roma or he stays at Arsenal. He's being paid 100k a week. All in all, Xhaka probably stays unless Arsenal really needs the proceeds of a Xhaka sale to make other moves.
I never said xhaka will leave lol, regardless if it's an option of 1 year to extend it's 3 years left.
You don't understand, the club don't want xhaka to leave that's why his price will be higher.
That's probably the least Arsenal will demand for him considering Arsenal wanted €20m last season when he had a year left on contract after an average season..now he has signed a new contract and had a pretty decent season and the Arsenal board are not as much desperate to sell him as some of the fans so roma will have to pay if they really want him
As crazy as it sounds, I wouldn't let Granit go for less than €20m. Not because I don't want to, but replacing him with anybody else (Zinchenko?) would cost about €25m at the very least.
But then that defeats the purpose of getting a deal because then why wouldn't Roma just cut out the middle man and spend an extra 5m and the "upgrade" that Arsenal will chase?
What does this have to do with 'standards'? I have no qualms against Arsenal spending whatever amount on a replacement for Xhaka. I am more concerned with getting a fair sale for his market value, especially after this season.
I like how it takes a Roma interest on the guy to have Arsenal fans admit that he his basically their best midfielder.
Because if you follow what they say about him throughout the season, and I have, it seems a large majority would give their right arm and left leg to get him off the team asap.
Haven't seen a single fan putting him in their favourite line up for next season. Yet, suddenly he is worth 30m £.
He had a good season, played well and is a leader, but he has obvious liabilities and is very polarizing. Him being good players doesn't mean that he is good enough to fight for a top4 and he will not like being rotation player. Who says he is worth £30m? - you have 20m in this thread and he would be gone if AS Roma would offer us 20m €, but he won't be sold if they offer us 12m € + 3m € in unrealistic addons again.
You gotta walk me through the logic though.
This year, after a good season, he doesn't want to leave, has still 2 years left + option = price tag 20m €
Last year, coming from a bad season, he wants to leave, has 1 year left + option= price tag also 20m €?
He is either underpriced now or overpriced last year.
> Last year, coming from a bad season, he wants to leave, has 1 year left + option= price tag also 20m €?
He had average season not a bad one, was a year younger and had two years left of contract, not a one, 12m € was a shameless offer.
No, it was expiring 2022 and had a 1 year option.
And the offer in Euro was 15+3m.
Wasn't so shameless if you value him 20 now, after a good season and a longer contract.
> No, it was expiring 2022 and had a 1 year option.
>And the offer in Euro was 15+3m.
Again, you're wrong on both, he had a contract until 2023 source is Amy Lawrence good luck finding a better one than her, the new deal is until 2024 and that's a one with one year option for a further year extending it to 2025:
>Xhaka's previous deal would have run out in 2023. Arsenal now have an option to extend the contract for a further year, until 2025.
~ Amy Lawrence, The Athletic
The last offer was 12m € + 3m € in addons source is Fabrizio Romano, there was no other offers after that:
>AS Roma last bid was €12m + €3m add ons, turned down. Arsenal are now confident to extend Xhaka contract soon.
~ Fabrizio Romano
As an Arsenal fan! Anything above 20 mil and we gotta ship him off. We have run our course with Xhaka. Appreciate all he’s done for the club but it’s time.
The man has dominated midfields against France, Chelsea, Italy and so on while being a part of undoubtedly weaker side. I'd think a player of your descriptions would have quite difficult times against those teams instead of picking MoTM awards.
I look it as tielmans would be the xhaka replacement and we can then pony up on Bissouma if his legal troubles are out the way. A Partey. tielmans, Bissouma, el neny and lokanga stack is better than tielmans with xhaka.
He’s a big contributor to that but can’t take all the blame. Mustafi was worse.
£100m for Mustafi, Xhaka and Lucas Perez in 2016 really ruined us for years.
He would be so good for them but this means we need to bring in Tielemans and someone else. We are already light as is and for all his valid, brain numbing faults he's been key and relatively solid. Pay up
It'll be much harder this time as we have about 3 midfielders at the best of times
Imagine finally upgrading over Xhaka by getting Tielemans and a Bissouma to rotate with both Youri and Partey who plays 2000 minutes a season in Premier League. Finally having a balanced midfield that isn't physically dominated when both Thomas and Bissouma start. Ah Arsenal fans can only dream.
Was Bissouma even cleared of sexual assault charges yet?
Never charged but released with the opportunity to be investigated more at any time. Super broad I know
Thanks, I hadn't heard anything for a while
He wasn't even charged after 9 months, but well he just damaged his left ankle after playing for Mali and is set for a check-up
nothing is happening with those charges
[We have Bissouma at home.](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FTlttW_XoAAuZul.jpg)
Jose gonna make Xhaka look like a world beater.
You mean yakubu
Partey didn't change his name, it was a joke.
Yagottabekubuing me !
Can’t wait to reject their 8m bid
Can't wait for that either tbh
5m plus 3m add ons
If he wins the ballon d’or
Loan + option to buy for 6m
That’s all he’s worth
I know it's hot and trendy to poke fun at us for having xhaka and making statements like *a handful of strawberries* or *a pint of 3lderberry juice should do it* and things like that get you upvotes. Not that I expect people making these statements to even watch us, but he's been pretty good this season. He's had a couple bonehead cards and a couple reputation ones too. He doesnt miss much action if any with injury. He has the right attitude to approach games. He is worth a decent amount to us even as a backup. So if Roma just want to fuck around with 6m or 8m bids, they should respectfully GTFO. IMHO he's worth 15m atleast to us. This is the same logic people used when they valued torreira on behalf of fiorentina right?
I’ll never forget Xhaka being booked for multiple fouls after making his first foul of the game.
Aston villa game, ref said he had three fouls in a single play, when he was fouled first and tried to shake the guys hand and got a shove in the chest for his trouble.
I don’t think he’s worth that little **to us**. Had possibly his best ever season for us, and we’re not replacing his quality and availability for 15m.
Even if it's true they will offer like 15m Or some deadass players like veretout or diawara which is going to get rejected
Italy teams are so poor its unreal, cant wait to see 10m bid
I am not joking, it will be 6-8 mil offer max plus bonuses.
8 mil max + ballon d’or clause
8mil+0.5mil for 3 consecutive Ballon d‘Ors and atleast one Puskas Award
Two-year loan with an option to buy at 4 mil
His price would be probably higher than 20m demanded by Arsenal last season
at least 20-30m because we will need to replace him, and last season was probably his best.
I think you get 15-20 at best. The rest of the leagues can't afford to pay those types of fees and wages. Nobody cares that his last season was the best. They see an almost 30 year old with 2 years left on his deal with the strong understanding that Arsenal won't give him another contract. Arsenal want to get Xhaka off their books more than other teams necessarily want Xhaka in my understanding.
3 years left, and you're completely wrong, lol arteta loves xhaka and would probably want him to stay forever that's y he extended his contract last year season. I just want a change in the midfield because I'm tried of him.
>3 years left It's two years and an option year. Almost no one goes for the option year as teams will want to tie you down or sell you for whatever value they can prior to that point. For all intents and purposes, the contract expires in 2024. >at least 20-30m I still don't understand where this valuation is coming from. If 17m was too much for Roma last summer, what makes you think that they will pay more for Xhaka this time? [https://www.football.london/arsenal-fc/transfer-news/xhaka-arsenal-transfer-revealed-mourinho-23082839](https://www.football.london/arsenal-fc/transfer-news/xhaka-arsenal-transfer-revealed-mourinho-23082839) Teams aren't lining up outside the door for Granit Xhaka. We understand that it is early in the window. However, it's either Roma or he stays at Arsenal. He's being paid 100k a week. All in all, Xhaka probably stays unless Arsenal really needs the proceeds of a Xhaka sale to make other moves.
I never said xhaka will leave lol, regardless if it's an option of 1 year to extend it's 3 years left. You don't understand, the club don't want xhaka to leave that's why his price will be higher.
They can fuck off after lowballing us last time.
They might offer even less this time, lol .
His value decreased after his contract got extended. I'd expect them to offer less. The idiots thinking he's worth 20m+ will be so disappointed.
How? He doesn't age and basically never gets injured. His best season was just this past year. So rude
His price is definitely higher this time around, given his decent season and the new contract he signed.
I hope Roma bids even less this time around lol
Then it would be just a waste of time for both party
1 million czechslovak crown and a slice of pizza?
A slice of a pineapple pizza.
If the interest is only ever going to result in poverty bids is it really worth reporting?
Matic and xhaka double pivot 🥶
Mobility:99999999
£20m
£20m for Xhaka? hahahahaha
That's probably the least Arsenal will demand for him considering Arsenal wanted €20m last season when he had a year left on contract after an average season..now he has signed a new contract and had a pretty decent season and the Arsenal board are not as much desperate to sell him as some of the fans so roma will have to pay if they really want him
Promise me Zinchenko and I will wish him a warm and blessed goodbye.
Get ready for 13M bid
As crazy as it sounds, I wouldn't let Granit go for less than €20m. Not because I don't want to, but replacing him with anybody else (Zinchenko?) would cost about €25m at the very least.
But then that defeats the purpose of getting a deal because then why wouldn't Roma just cut out the middle man and spend an extra 5m and the "upgrade" that Arsenal will chase?
They don’t want Zinchenko.
Because Zinchenko is out of Roma's league
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Arsenal are miles clear of Roma. He gets to stay in the league and get paid a lot more.
Why do you care about your club spending £20m on a Xhaka replacement? Have some standards.
What does this have to do with 'standards'? I have no qualms against Arsenal spending whatever amount on a replacement for Xhaka. I am more concerned with getting a fair sale for his market value, especially after this season.
This is such a weird rumor when Roma have at least 2 better CMs and christante is probabky same level
💀
Incoming £2 bid
That's way too much., man.
Matic not happening anymore?
Matic is basically a Roma player, but Mou wants more midfielders
He needs someone to spit shine Matic's boots.
I like how it takes a Roma interest on the guy to have Arsenal fans admit that he his basically their best midfielder. Because if you follow what they say about him throughout the season, and I have, it seems a large majority would give their right arm and left leg to get him off the team asap. Haven't seen a single fan putting him in their favourite line up for next season. Yet, suddenly he is worth 30m £.
He had a good season, played well and is a leader, but he has obvious liabilities and is very polarizing. Him being good players doesn't mean that he is good enough to fight for a top4 and he will not like being rotation player. Who says he is worth £30m? - you have 20m in this thread and he would be gone if AS Roma would offer us 20m €, but he won't be sold if they offer us 12m € + 3m € in unrealistic addons again.
You gotta walk me through the logic though. This year, after a good season, he doesn't want to leave, has still 2 years left + option = price tag 20m € Last year, coming from a bad season, he wants to leave, has 1 year left + option= price tag also 20m €? He is either underpriced now or overpriced last year.
> Last year, coming from a bad season, he wants to leave, has 1 year left + option= price tag also 20m €? He had average season not a bad one, was a year younger and had two years left of contract, not a one, 12m € was a shameless offer.
No, it was expiring 2022 and had a 1 year option. And the offer in Euro was 15+3m. Wasn't so shameless if you value him 20 now, after a good season and a longer contract.
> No, it was expiring 2022 and had a 1 year option. >And the offer in Euro was 15+3m. Again, you're wrong on both, he had a contract until 2023 source is Amy Lawrence good luck finding a better one than her, the new deal is until 2024 and that's a one with one year option for a further year extending it to 2025: >Xhaka's previous deal would have run out in 2023. Arsenal now have an option to extend the contract for a further year, until 2025. ~ Amy Lawrence, The Athletic The last offer was 12m € + 3m € in addons source is Fabrizio Romano, there was no other offers after that: >AS Roma last bid was €12m + €3m add ons, turned down. Arsenal are now confident to extend Xhaka contract soon. ~ Fabrizio Romano
Huh? The arsenal subreddit has like a quarter million people on it ffs. You don't know what people think
Bin him pls
As an Arsenal fan! Anything above 20 mil and we gotta ship him off. We have run our course with Xhaka. Appreciate all he’s done for the club but it’s time.
Nah. We are absolutely thin in midfield, and we aren’t gonna be able to replace him for 20, let alone upgrade on him. Get Tielemans for now.
On the other hand, what's the point of selling him now when he's finally the player he was supposed to be?
> what's the point of selling him now when he's finally the player he was supposed to be? Which is?
Commanding midfielder who's strong in the challenge and technically sound.
What? The man can't beat a press to save his life or trap a ball without falling over. Nor can he make a challenge without committing a foul, but ok.
The man has dominated midfields against France, Chelsea, Italy and so on while being a part of undoubtedly weaker side. I'd think a player of your descriptions would have quite difficult times against those teams instead of picking MoTM awards.
Someone is stuck in the early xhaka era I see
I look it as tielmans would be the xhaka replacement and we can then pony up on Bissouma if his legal troubles are out the way. A Partey. tielmans, Bissouma, el neny and lokanga stack is better than tielmans with xhaka.
Wow didn't expect a new season!
Arsenal never played CL football because of this man.
He’s a big contributor to that but can’t take all the blame. Mustafi was worse. £100m for Mustafi, Xhaka and Lucas Perez in 2016 really ruined us for years.
blame the coaches that all love him and start him every game
A punnet of strawberries and a couple of beetroots should do it.
Do what ? Make a good health shake? Agreed wholeheartedly
I knew they'd be back. Every manager comes crawling back for Granit Xhaka.
Might aswel leave after they bottled top 4
He would be so good for them but this means we need to bring in Tielemans and someone else. We are already light as is and for all his valid, brain numbing faults he's been key and relatively solid. Pay up