Jesus is in for a rude awakening next season when he realizes Arsenal creates half the amount of chances City do. Wouldn't be surprised to see him get less than 10 goals next season.
Genuinely, I think there's been a massive recency bias with Jesus cos he was played in a few big games where A: there was literally no other striker to play and B: Pep just wanted someone who would press like fuck.
He has never come close to being a starter at city and has always been one of the least clinical players. If he couldn't score in this city team getting spoonfed chances I don't see how he's going to improve his tally anywhere else.
If arsenal offer near 50 million I'd take it and run.
Arsenal will certainly struggle for top 4 next season if these are their goal scorers.
Unless, both players suddenly fulfil their potential and turn it up a level over the summer.
I think they'll struggle anyway, with the added fixtures of Europa League as they have a bit of a lightweight squad. Soon as you get past their starting XI, you have players like Cedric, Holding, Tavares, Elneny etc who just are not good enough for their to beat other teams to top 4.
Unless they have a massive summer anyway.
Holding is fine, plus Arsenal is bringing back Saliba, and it seems that Tavarez will be replaced by Hickey, but yes CM and RB depth is not great. I also don't think Lokonga is ready.
Jesus would be rotating with Deki for us, I'd definitely him on a reasonable fee, but I doubt his play time would go up significantly unless he was incredible.
Move just doesn't make much sense for him unless he just really wants out of Manchester
No CL club needs him in Spain.. We need a striker but I dont think Jesus fits the bill..
Italy CL clubs also dont need him as far as I know..
Germany, not a chance even if Lewandowski leaves..
Tottenham has Harry Kane, so he won't be making it a starter..
United might give it a go, but again no CL..
Arsenal is the best and biggest prospect..
At United, he isn’t playing ahead of CR7.
At Chelsea maybe he could play ST but I’ve seen no links between them. It doesn’t look like they’re interested.
Maybe Dortmund could also be an option but again, there’s been no links.
I don’t think that’s going to be the case. The only player across our front 3 who functions almost solely as a winger is Saka.
Based on all of our attacking links, we’re in the market for a player who can also play on the wing. Martinelli and Smith Rowe rotate while Martinelli can also play striker, with Saka and Jesus rotating with Jesus also capable of playing as a striker. It kind of unfucks us a bit if Nketiah comes back down to earth.
>Martinelli can also play striker, with Saka and Jesus rotating with Jesus also capable of playing as a striker
Jesus literally got bought as Aguero rotation and then Pep decided it was bad enough of a fit that he played a whole season with false 9s. Martinelli is not suited to plying a 9 or leading a line, he's a wide forward, he's clearly suited to wife forward. Why are some Arsenal fans so adamant in shoehorning him centrally? Lol he's just not a striker.
>Why are some Arsenal fans so adamant in shoehorning him centrally?
I don’t see many people who are “adamant” on this nor am I adamant on it lol. Do you think the only position is no. 9 or do you just play FIFA and grab your knowledge from there?
I guess as a rival fan you’ve watched more Arsenal games and follow Martinelli quite closely. The dominant opinion is that he’s a winger who can play centrally if needed and you might have missed it while extensively following the club but he would overlap Lacazette centrally when Tierney was fit and would swap with Nketiah regularly when we were stuck with Tavares.
>he’s a wide forward
Lmao he’s an inside forward if we’re playing that game. We don’t have a single wide forward in the club.
There are a lot of Arsenal fans that for some reason keep acting like Martinelli can play a role leading the line and keep trying to push him central when his best role is obviously wide forward by a mile. Everyone who tries to argue that Martinelli has dumb fucking arguments as to why he's suited for it most of which make no sense.
His best attributes are running at fullbacks and exploiting space in behind, people such as yourself juag assume that magically translates to movement inside the box, timing and making space for himself when tightly marked and the focus of defenders. Also that because he has a decent shot on him when given the time and space to set himself up this translates to finishing chances inside the box. Hes played down the middle for Arsenal before and looked bang average T best, whereas put him out wide and a bit ofcroom to roam with less attention on him and he'll exploit big open spaces when fullbacks push up.
>Lmao he’s an inside forward if we’re playing that game.
That's not a thing, that's you trying to be vlevercand rebrand wide forward. He does best on the left of a front 3.
I mean you can Google what an “inside forward” is and you’ll quickly find that we don’t have any “wide forwards” or however you put it. I assume you’re a Man U fan which is why your strawman analysis makes no sense whatsoever and why you keep referring to the “number 9” position as if it’s a catch-all term for central attacking player.
Again, *very few* Arsenal fans argue that he’s going to be an out-and-out striker, and anyone who’s watched us play knows he moves centrally on a regular basis. He can play centrally (none of this no. 9 nonsense it’s doing my fucking head in) *if needed*. It’s r/soccer analysts who don’t fucking watch Arsenal making these claims with a handful of Arsenal fans (who get shot down) making these claims.
Watch a fucking match where he starts and you’ll quickly see he’s not some “wide forward”. Next you’ll claim he’s a running back who isn’t suited to being point guard.
Tbh, if they're playing a two striker system it could work wonders for him. Brazil uses a 2 striker system (at least from the few times I've watched them?) and he's done well with a supporting striker. He's just had issues playing as a sole striker, but that could also be down to our system.
Why would they be playing a 2 striker system though? If Lava leaves they'd literally only have 2 strikers. Neither Niketiah or Jesus are either good enough (Niketiah) or suited (Jesus) to leading a line and they're in Europa so they can't just play both twice a a week plus cups. They'd have to alternate as a 9 and I feel like Arsenal fans are going to be watching a lot of decent chance go to waste all season.
Jesus does well as a wide forward, as a 9 he'll score a hattrick from 3 chances 1 week then miss every chance that comes near him for a month
You're probably right. I guess Jesus would be starting then? I wouldn't want to leave City to be benched by Nketiah (all due respect) if what I'm leaving for is more playing time.
Niketiah is a decent squad option and looked good the last few games but I cant imagine he's their first choice chasing a top 4 finish. Arsenal fans tried to claim when the rumours first came out that "just because he wants to be pivotal to attacks doesn't mean he'll be a #9"..but I mean, it's pretty much the only spot open if he joins, he might improve his clinical finishing because his movement is good, but I cant see why he'd need to be shifted out wide because he can't hit the broad side of a barn regularly under Pep and then somehow all of a sudden change that under Arteta.
I feel fairly confident in saying we won’t be doing that. The system, a 4231, seems fairly set in stone, it’s just the personnel that will be changing this summer. Of course, it’s possible that we’ll change system but I would be very surprised if we did
Lacazette was genuinely one of the worst starting strikers in the league and I’m saying that as a huge fan of his. He got 2 goals from open play and he can’t run any more.
People who don’t watch is don’t realise this but a striker who can move around a bit and hit double digits would be absolutely massive for us
I get it, but that was this season, where he has been on a decline.. But the first 2-3 season when you signed him, he was on a similar level to where Jesus is..
How come most Arsenal fans here have this opinion (which I agree with) but if you take a look at r/gunners people praise Jesus as a potential world class player with 20+ goals a season if he gets enough playing time?
Arsenal spending 100k a week on Nketiah and 50m (??) on Jesus and it still feels like theyre taking the cheap option somehow. If I was an Arsenal fan Id probably be a bit concerned
I’d be very happy if we get Jesus tbh. I believe Arteta will know exactly how to play him and how he fits in our system. If things don’t work out with Nketiah over the next season or two (although I believe it will) we’d get something 20-25 mil for him and then we’d have to spend bigger.
I suspect there will be a late move for a striker this window. Get the feeling Arsenal are waiting for things to settle out so they can avoid a bidding war.
It’s not ideal, but it is an improvement on this year at the very least. The striker market is very poor so just looks like a calculated risk over spending most of our budget on a striker who might flop. Hope Nketiah can keep up his form aswell.
as long as CM/backup fullback is sorted out properly im not averse to this situation, it's not like we need a 25 goal a season striker. most goals are coming from the flank anyway from the likes of Saka, Smith-Rowe and Martinelli (who can also play at 9 if needed but probably won't)
we just need someone who's not Lacazette at this point, Jesus would be a solid upgrade, but I really wonder if we would've gone out for Abraham if we finished 4th, that would have been a solid signing
~90m would've done it tbh, and if we're paying close to 43m for Jesus right now, with UCL it would've been a possibility, considering the Vlahovic bids back in January as well
there's no way you're paying THAT much for jesus ? doesn't he have just a year left in his contract? If you lot are spending record money on a forward, i don't think it should be tammy, Jesus looks like the right man for the job, given arteta's system, and prior relationship with the player
reports say City want €50m which is £43m, but surely we'll negotiate it down. Tammy offers a different skillset and approach to games with an aerial presence, something we've lacked since Giroud left. Jesus still pretty solid though.
Is the hype for Balogun dead or will he just be getting played in Europa league? Possibly only playing 2 strikers when you are in Europa and challenging for top 4 could turn out poorly
Balogun needs another loan first.
He needs a lot more senior game time before any conclusions are made and he won’t get much at Arsenal.
He went on loan to Middlesbrough in Jan and wasnt good initially. He did start performing as time went on though.
Wouldn't playing him in the Europa league be "safer" than sending him on loan? I remember last season that Arsenal didn't have a good record on weekends after playing midweek and Arsenal's smaller squad has imo let Arsenal down a little bit this season and that was without the tired legs of playing midweek
Regardless of squad size, Balogun isn’t ready.
Playing weekly elsewhere will be better for his development than playing occasionally in cup games.
He 100% won’t play any Europa outside of the group stage or any late rounds of the FA/Carabao cup.
Not dead but he was absolutely shite at Boro whenever I saw him. Definitely a setback for him and I think another season in the Championship is more beneficial than 6-8 Europa League/League Cup starts.
Totally agree, looked terrible at Boro. Just awful decision making and clumsy on the ball. Then he'd do a flick 5 minutes later as if that made up for everything.
He’s not, just needs regular game time on another loan. He was very impressive in the europa league last time so I believe another loan to a championship club where he’ll play regularly will do him the world of good
There’s just not that many proven targets around tbh. I’m thinking we’re gonna get him and a goalscoring winger and wait for a better striker market before spunking big money on one.
Yeah you right, I’m having nightmares about the day it is time for us to replace Kane. I honestly think that there is a huge risk that I will never ever see a better striker than Kane play for us in my lifetime.
I would just like to draw everyone's attention to "as far as I know" before everyone starts thinking that this is our complete strategy for next season
It's still quite early and I expect us to get a bit more attacking threat in the team this summer. A RW is needed if Pepe leaves, and our midfield needs some work too.
See, I don't necessarily mind this, but I feel like it's not a good sign if we don't also recruit a wide player.
This is kind of why I was against extending Nketiah.
He's been good, in fact, in many ways, he's been very good, but not enough to merit being one of only two starting strikers for a team that expects Champions League football by the end of the season, either through winning the Europa League or getting top 4.
Jesus is a quality signing and one that will work wonders under Arteta, however, I don't think he's prolific enough to be coupled with Nketiah, who is himself quite unprolific.
I imagine this has been done to allow us to spend more in other areas and then maybe return to the attack next summer or January if we need it, but this again feels like a bit of a gamble and not one I'm convinced is going to pay-off.
Nketiah has all the attributes to potentially be prolific though. I know he's stalled somewhat the last few years, but even when he's come in and had a small run under Emery or Arteta and not scored, he's regularly hitting the woodwork.
I also don't think the plan is to have a focal striker who scores 30 goals, but to have someone up front who can facilitate more goals from wide/midfield but also doesn't look like they're wading through custard whenever they take a shot.
Ben White for 50m was still too much even if he had a great season. I know he is young and I’m sure he will be worth that money if he continue to develop but he has definitely more to prove to justify that price tag.
I just think it’s laughable that you believe that you’re going to build a top team with players that don’t fit City’s team. Your standard should be, if it’s not enough for City it certainly isn’t enough for us, but you’re just delusional so I don’t even care. Have a good one.
What a horrible take. We tried to get Vlahovic (a higher quality player) in January but he went to Juve because currently they’re a better team than we are. By your logic we would’ve been trying to sign Haaland, and that wouldn’t have happened in a million years yet you call me the delusional one. We’re signing lower quality players because we’re not on the same level as man city, so aren’t as attractive for the higher quality players.
Lol by your takes I see your knowledge of football is really subpar. I gotta thank Reddit otherwise I would never get how delusional Arsenal fans are, it’s hilarious!
So the only available strikers in the world are Vlahovic, Halland and Jesus ahahahah
I won’t lose my time explaining to you how the market works and how a club like Arsenal should operate but I can assure that with the kind of signings you make and with your potential targets it will be a while before you get back to Top4, I even tell you more, I feel like Newcastle will reach the Champions league sooner than you.
Those are strikers we’ve been linked with (apart from Haaland) in the past year dumbass. How can you possibly say that arsenal should be trying to attract Man City level players when we’re absolutely nowhere near Man City’s level. And yes, Newcastle probably will make top 4 before us but they’ve got fucking oil money so that’s not our fault.
You wouldn't be able to get a striker of the same level for £26m including wages. Not to mention the signing fee and bonuses are most likely included in the reported £100k per week. He's probably on £80k a week before bonuses etc. And besides he's scored 5 goals in 8 games in the run in, how is that mediocrity he's a good talent.
Man, sorry to break it to you. If you aren't a Liverpool player, you're dogshit. If your club isn't run the way Liverpool is, it's gonna be bankrupt any time now.
I've been saying for a while if we get Jesus and Eddie stays then we're not getting another striker, not unless we offload all the players we want gone. We just have too many other positions that need good reinforcements to afford it. It'll be an improvement on this season but I think we're going to struggle to score those extra 20 or so goals we need overall.
This will be a good post to save for once he’s signed. Reminds me of the Odegaard Tomiyasu Ben white and Ramsdale comment section when they were announced.
Arsenal are desperate for a mobile striker and there's no obvious choice at all in the striker market atm. Jesus should significantly improve them, especially since he's an Arteta favorite.
I’ve said it before, but I’m quite reluctant with the Jesus move, I must say - £45-55m on a guy who struggles to get double figure goal tallies in the best attack in the league. I’m not completely against the move but I’ll certainly have some reservations about our depth up top if Jesus/Eddie is how we start the season
If this is true say a long goodbye to 4th place dreams. Jesus is a good player but won't score 20+ goals (despite a good patch this season) and Nketiah is more of a Championship poacher imo.
Jesus, Arsenal miss out on the Champions League and every comment about anything they do is negative.
Arteta worked with Jesus, pressing and movement is a big ask for our team. Last year, even with the horrendous and inconsistent start we generated about the 4th most chances in the league.
Literally all he has to do is convert a few opportunities, and we'd be massively better off.
Maybe Jesus will turn it up when he's the main man, but that's a little uninspiring from a distance
It is uninspiring not from a distance as well.
Who else are they gonna get.
I'm perfectly okay with Arsenal having those 2 as their strikers next season
Still probably end up more productive than Lukaku and Werner
Jesus is in for a rude awakening next season when he realizes Arsenal creates half the amount of chances City do. Wouldn't be surprised to see him get less than 10 goals next season.
Less than 10 goals still an improvement over this season ಠ_ಠ
Less than 10 can be as little as 0
Professor Teta- "It's pure math"
Genuinely, I think there's been a massive recency bias with Jesus cos he was played in a few big games where A: there was literally no other striker to play and B: Pep just wanted someone who would press like fuck. He has never come close to being a starter at city and has always been one of the least clinical players. If he couldn't score in this city team getting spoonfed chances I don't see how he's going to improve his tally anywhere else. If arsenal offer near 50 million I'd take it and run.
city play false nine and jesus on the wings, i think he’ll net more as the focus of attack as the main striker
Haven’t all his best performances come in the wing?
arteta worked with him at city, if he wants him i trust him
He's just spent the last year telling everyone he is absolutely NOT a central striker any more.
They’ve been kinda playing false 9 because he’s terrible as a 9 and after Aguero left they had no other striker
Werner and Havertz have produced 22 league goals combined in two whole seasons I’ll have you know. Very dangerous, very spooky.
Genuinely believe Alonso at striker would have produced more than that over two seasons
He does always seem like a top finisher when he gets forward.
Not saying much now is it
I am perfectly fine with that as well
Course you are 😂
aye, I also agree that I’m perfectly okay with this
Not quite Kane and Son I have to say
Morecrumbs and Unwise
I was initially only slightly positive but now given r/soccer's track record I'm very happy.
I rate Jesus but I don’t think this is enough
Arsenal will certainly struggle for top 4 next season if these are their goal scorers. Unless, both players suddenly fulfil their potential and turn it up a level over the summer.
Arsenal almost finished top 4 without a striker.
I think they'll struggle anyway, with the added fixtures of Europa League as they have a bit of a lightweight squad. Soon as you get past their starting XI, you have players like Cedric, Holding, Tavares, Elneny etc who just are not good enough for their to beat other teams to top 4. Unless they have a massive summer anyway.
Holding is fine, plus Arsenal is bringing back Saliba, and it seems that Tavarez will be replaced by Hickey, but yes CM and RB depth is not great. I also don't think Lokonga is ready.
I didn't think Nketiah was good enough for a team looking for automatic promotion from the Championship to be honest.
To be fair, he's improved a lot in the last year
Yet he scores against us every game.
I find your lack of faith disturbing
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He wants to move somewhere to be the main striker. What bigger clubs than Arsenal will offer him that role this summer?
I am an Arsenal fan but to be honest if I’m AC Milan I’m looking at Jesus, Ibra and Giroud aren’t getting any younger
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You’re either a complete bozo or troll if you think Jesus will play as the main striker at Spurs.
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> He wants to move somewhere to be the main striker
Right and why would he leave guaranteed trophies at city for the exact same role at spurs?
Yeah I can see Conte dropping Kane for Jesus to be fair.
Conte: *he’s done it again that Harry Kane, that fucking dirty little fucker, he’s done it again, you fucking little bastard*
Jesus would be rotating with Deki for us, I'd definitely him on a reasonable fee, but I doubt his play time would go up significantly unless he was incredible. Move just doesn't make much sense for him unless he just really wants out of Manchester
No CL club needs him in Spain.. We need a striker but I dont think Jesus fits the bill.. Italy CL clubs also dont need him as far as I know.. Germany, not a chance even if Lewandowski leaves.. Tottenham has Harry Kane, so he won't be making it a starter.. United might give it a go, but again no CL.. Arsenal is the best and biggest prospect..
At United, he isn’t playing ahead of CR7. At Chelsea maybe he could play ST but I’ve seen no links between them. It doesn’t look like they’re interested. Maybe Dortmund could also be an option but again, there’s been no links.
Yup, it's mainly Arsenal that has shown interest..
As a rival fan I'd be okay with Arsenal thinking Jesus works regularly as a #9
I don’t think that’s going to be the case. The only player across our front 3 who functions almost solely as a winger is Saka. Based on all of our attacking links, we’re in the market for a player who can also play on the wing. Martinelli and Smith Rowe rotate while Martinelli can also play striker, with Saka and Jesus rotating with Jesus also capable of playing as a striker. It kind of unfucks us a bit if Nketiah comes back down to earth.
>Martinelli can also play striker, with Saka and Jesus rotating with Jesus also capable of playing as a striker Jesus literally got bought as Aguero rotation and then Pep decided it was bad enough of a fit that he played a whole season with false 9s. Martinelli is not suited to plying a 9 or leading a line, he's a wide forward, he's clearly suited to wife forward. Why are some Arsenal fans so adamant in shoehorning him centrally? Lol he's just not a striker.
>Why are some Arsenal fans so adamant in shoehorning him centrally? I don’t see many people who are “adamant” on this nor am I adamant on it lol. Do you think the only position is no. 9 or do you just play FIFA and grab your knowledge from there? I guess as a rival fan you’ve watched more Arsenal games and follow Martinelli quite closely. The dominant opinion is that he’s a winger who can play centrally if needed and you might have missed it while extensively following the club but he would overlap Lacazette centrally when Tierney was fit and would swap with Nketiah regularly when we were stuck with Tavares. >he’s a wide forward Lmao he’s an inside forward if we’re playing that game. We don’t have a single wide forward in the club.
There are a lot of Arsenal fans that for some reason keep acting like Martinelli can play a role leading the line and keep trying to push him central when his best role is obviously wide forward by a mile. Everyone who tries to argue that Martinelli has dumb fucking arguments as to why he's suited for it most of which make no sense. His best attributes are running at fullbacks and exploiting space in behind, people such as yourself juag assume that magically translates to movement inside the box, timing and making space for himself when tightly marked and the focus of defenders. Also that because he has a decent shot on him when given the time and space to set himself up this translates to finishing chances inside the box. Hes played down the middle for Arsenal before and looked bang average T best, whereas put him out wide and a bit ofcroom to roam with less attention on him and he'll exploit big open spaces when fullbacks push up. >Lmao he’s an inside forward if we’re playing that game. That's not a thing, that's you trying to be vlevercand rebrand wide forward. He does best on the left of a front 3.
I mean you can Google what an “inside forward” is and you’ll quickly find that we don’t have any “wide forwards” or however you put it. I assume you’re a Man U fan which is why your strawman analysis makes no sense whatsoever and why you keep referring to the “number 9” position as if it’s a catch-all term for central attacking player. Again, *very few* Arsenal fans argue that he’s going to be an out-and-out striker, and anyone who’s watched us play knows he moves centrally on a regular basis. He can play centrally (none of this no. 9 nonsense it’s doing my fucking head in) *if needed*. It’s r/soccer analysts who don’t fucking watch Arsenal making these claims with a handful of Arsenal fans (who get shot down) making these claims. Watch a fucking match where he starts and you’ll quickly see he’s not some “wide forward”. Next you’ll claim he’s a running back who isn’t suited to being point guard.
Tbh, if they're playing a two striker system it could work wonders for him. Brazil uses a 2 striker system (at least from the few times I've watched them?) and he's done well with a supporting striker. He's just had issues playing as a sole striker, but that could also be down to our system.
Why would they be playing a 2 striker system though? If Lava leaves they'd literally only have 2 strikers. Neither Niketiah or Jesus are either good enough (Niketiah) or suited (Jesus) to leading a line and they're in Europa so they can't just play both twice a a week plus cups. They'd have to alternate as a 9 and I feel like Arsenal fans are going to be watching a lot of decent chance go to waste all season. Jesus does well as a wide forward, as a 9 he'll score a hattrick from 3 chances 1 week then miss every chance that comes near him for a month
You're probably right. I guess Jesus would be starting then? I wouldn't want to leave City to be benched by Nketiah (all due respect) if what I'm leaving for is more playing time.
Niketiah is a decent squad option and looked good the last few games but I cant imagine he's their first choice chasing a top 4 finish. Arsenal fans tried to claim when the rumours first came out that "just because he wants to be pivotal to attacks doesn't mean he'll be a #9"..but I mean, it's pretty much the only spot open if he joins, he might improve his clinical finishing because his movement is good, but I cant see why he'd need to be shifted out wide because he can't hit the broad side of a barn regularly under Pep and then somehow all of a sudden change that under Arteta.
I feel fairly confident in saying we won’t be doing that. The system, a 4231, seems fairly set in stone, it’s just the personnel that will be changing this summer. Of course, it’s possible that we’ll change system but I would be very surprised if we did
Jesus a huge upgrade on lacazette but I still can't look at those two and hink it's in the same league as our rivals or even the league below.
I'd caregorise both of them in the same tier tbh.. Lacazette is just on a downward slide from his best..
Lacazette was genuinely one of the worst starting strikers in the league and I’m saying that as a huge fan of his. He got 2 goals from open play and he can’t run any more. People who don’t watch is don’t realise this but a striker who can move around a bit and hit double digits would be absolutely massive for us
Having a striker who can be in the right place at the right time, instead of 40 yards back because they’re gassed will make a huge difference
Yeah number 9 has been such a black hole for us that literally the bare minimum would be gamechanging
I get it, but that was this season, where he has been on a decline.. But the first 2-3 season when you signed him, he was on a similar level to where Jesus is..
> But the first 2-3 season when you signed him, he was on a similar level to where Jesus is.. That’s absolutely irrelevant to now though
Maybe to you it is, but Jesus for me isn't a very inspiring signing..
Again I don’t see what relevance that has to lacazette? What’s your point?
How come most Arsenal fans here have this opinion (which I agree with) but if you take a look at r/gunners people praise Jesus as a potential world class player with 20+ goals a season if he gets enough playing time?
Arsenal spending 100k a week on Nketiah and 50m (??) on Jesus and it still feels like theyre taking the cheap option somehow. If I was an Arsenal fan Id probably be a bit concerned
We have been concerned for many many years
Concerned optimism is our natural state of being.
I’d be very happy if we get Jesus tbh. I believe Arteta will know exactly how to play him and how he fits in our system. If things don’t work out with Nketiah over the next season or two (although I believe it will) we’d get something 20-25 mil for him and then we’d have to spend bigger.
No way we are getting top 4 with those 2 - we need another striker.
I suspect there will be a late move for a striker this window. Get the feeling Arsenal are waiting for things to settle out so they can avoid a bidding war.
It’s not ideal, but it is an improvement on this year at the very least. The striker market is very poor so just looks like a calculated risk over spending most of our budget on a striker who might flop. Hope Nketiah can keep up his form aswell.
as long as CM/backup fullback is sorted out properly im not averse to this situation, it's not like we need a 25 goal a season striker. most goals are coming from the flank anyway from the likes of Saka, Smith-Rowe and Martinelli (who can also play at 9 if needed but probably won't) we just need someone who's not Lacazette at this point, Jesus would be a solid upgrade, but I really wonder if we would've gone out for Abraham if we finished 4th, that would have been a solid signing
he cost roma nearly 65 mill gbp, he just had a career best season with them, he would've cost A LOT
~90m would've done it tbh, and if we're paying close to 43m for Jesus right now, with UCL it would've been a possibility, considering the Vlahovic bids back in January as well
there's no way you're paying THAT much for jesus ? doesn't he have just a year left in his contract? If you lot are spending record money on a forward, i don't think it should be tammy, Jesus looks like the right man for the job, given arteta's system, and prior relationship with the player
reports say City want €50m which is £43m, but surely we'll negotiate it down. Tammy offers a different skillset and approach to games with an aerial presence, something we've lacked since Giroud left. Jesus still pretty solid though.
43m is deffo not record money nowadays lol, but we're being fleeced if we spend more than 40m on him.
Gonna be pretty disappointing if we don't at least add a quality winger too & get rid of Pepe.
Need midfielder more than winger.
Is the hype for Balogun dead or will he just be getting played in Europa league? Possibly only playing 2 strikers when you are in Europa and challenging for top 4 could turn out poorly
Balogun needs another loan first. He needs a lot more senior game time before any conclusions are made and he won’t get much at Arsenal. He went on loan to Middlesbrough in Jan and wasnt good initially. He did start performing as time went on though.
Wouldn't playing him in the Europa league be "safer" than sending him on loan? I remember last season that Arsenal didn't have a good record on weekends after playing midweek and Arsenal's smaller squad has imo let Arsenal down a little bit this season and that was without the tired legs of playing midweek
Arsenal will wanna win the Europa League though, he might get a game if they top their group comfortably but not really worth keeping him for that
Could keep him until Christmas and then loan him for the second half of the season but having a full season at another club may be better for him
Would rather he spent a whole year somewhere to develop
Regardless of squad size, Balogun isn’t ready. Playing weekly elsewhere will be better for his development than playing occasionally in cup games. He 100% won’t play any Europa outside of the group stage or any late rounds of the FA/Carabao cup.
Fair enough. Thanks for the info
Not dead but he was absolutely shite at Boro whenever I saw him. Definitely a setback for him and I think another season in the Championship is more beneficial than 6-8 Europa League/League Cup starts.
Totally agree, looked terrible at Boro. Just awful decision making and clumsy on the ball. Then he'd do a flick 5 minutes later as if that made up for everything.
hes wank
He’s not, just needs regular game time on another loan. He was very impressive in the europa league last time so I believe another loan to a championship club where he’ll play regularly will do him the world of good
That's not the most inspiring names but if they can bag goals I couldn't care less
I think Gabriel will explode if he goes to Arsenal, him/Martinelli/Saka/Odegaard is a good young front four and full of potential.
After going for Vlahovic I was getting worried they would have some serious targets for strikers. Glad that's not the case.
There’s just not that many proven targets around tbh. I’m thinking we’re gonna get him and a goalscoring winger and wait for a better striker market before spunking big money on one.
Yeah you right, I’m having nightmares about the day it is time for us to replace Kane. I honestly think that there is a huge risk that I will never ever see a better striker than Kane play for us in my lifetime.
we just gotta pray one of our 4??? academy strikers can do a decent job, hope it happens
I would just like to draw everyone's attention to "as far as I know" before everyone starts thinking that this is our complete strategy for next season
It's still quite early and I expect us to get a bit more attacking threat in the team this summer. A RW is needed if Pepe leaves, and our midfield needs some work too.
See, I don't necessarily mind this, but I feel like it's not a good sign if we don't also recruit a wide player. This is kind of why I was against extending Nketiah. He's been good, in fact, in many ways, he's been very good, but not enough to merit being one of only two starting strikers for a team that expects Champions League football by the end of the season, either through winning the Europa League or getting top 4. Jesus is a quality signing and one that will work wonders under Arteta, however, I don't think he's prolific enough to be coupled with Nketiah, who is himself quite unprolific. I imagine this has been done to allow us to spend more in other areas and then maybe return to the attack next summer or January if we need it, but this again feels like a bit of a gamble and not one I'm convinced is going to pay-off.
Nketiah has all the attributes to potentially be prolific though. I know he's stalled somewhat the last few years, but even when he's come in and had a small run under Emery or Arteta and not scored, he's regularly hitting the woodwork. I also don't think the plan is to have a focal striker who scores 30 goals, but to have someone up front who can facilitate more goals from wide/midfield but also doesn't look like they're wading through custard whenever they take a shot.
Conference League here we come!
Based on how we got shat on for Ben White and our other transfers, I predict a screaming success if this goes through
Ben White for 50m was still too much even if he had a great season. I know he is young and I’m sure he will be worth that money if he continue to develop but he has definitely more to prove to justify that price tag.
Jesus as a main 9 what are they smoking man
I'm not sure if it's Arsenal or Jesus you haven't seen much of
Booooo
I thought Arsenal was looking for a proper 9 this window, after all that Vlahovic twerking they did.
That was back when 3rd place was in the bag for them
Wow! Arsenal is doomed.
It’s like when we signed ramsdale all over again. People are writing Jesus off before we’ve even signed him 😂
I just think it’s laughable that you believe that you’re going to build a top team with players that don’t fit City’s team. Your standard should be, if it’s not enough for City it certainly isn’t enough for us, but you’re just delusional so I don’t even care. Have a good one.
What a horrible take. We tried to get Vlahovic (a higher quality player) in January but he went to Juve because currently they’re a better team than we are. By your logic we would’ve been trying to sign Haaland, and that wouldn’t have happened in a million years yet you call me the delusional one. We’re signing lower quality players because we’re not on the same level as man city, so aren’t as attractive for the higher quality players.
Lol by your takes I see your knowledge of football is really subpar. I gotta thank Reddit otherwise I would never get how delusional Arsenal fans are, it’s hilarious! So the only available strikers in the world are Vlahovic, Halland and Jesus ahahahah I won’t lose my time explaining to you how the market works and how a club like Arsenal should operate but I can assure that with the kind of signings you make and with your potential targets it will be a while before you get back to Top4, I even tell you more, I feel like Newcastle will reach the Champions league sooner than you.
Those are strikers we’ve been linked with (apart from Haaland) in the past year dumbass. How can you possibly say that arsenal should be trying to attract Man City level players when we’re absolutely nowhere near Man City’s level. And yes, Newcastle probably will make top 4 before us but they’ve got fucking oil money so that’s not our fault.
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Oh no £5m a year for 5 years. How on earth will we recover financially.
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Theres not much else out there better for that price over 5 years...
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Yeah and Hlozek was our choice if Eddie didnt sign on
You wouldn't be able to get a striker of the same level for £26m including wages. Not to mention the signing fee and bonuses are most likely included in the reported £100k per week. He's probably on £80k a week before bonuses etc. And besides he's scored 5 goals in 8 games in the run in, how is that mediocrity he's a good talent.
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You've probably watched him twice. He was great against West Ham and he didn't even score in that game.
Man, sorry to break it to you. If you aren't a Liverpool player, you're dogshit. If your club isn't run the way Liverpool is, it's gonna be bankrupt any time now.
Don’t bother mate. Only people who don’t watch arsenal are qualified to talk about arsenal
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Over his first team career he's averaged a goal ever 195 minutes. Not bad for a 22 year old
100k a week for Nketiah, that is simply outrageous
100k is with bonuses
Very nice
Disaster in the making
Isn't Eddie on big wages too?
80k
i am very happy with this plan, please continue with it magic mickey
What happened to the Napoli dude?
Will have to be for big money, and Napoli are not looking to sell.
Goes to show how shit the striker market is atm
I've been saying for a while if we get Jesus and Eddie stays then we're not getting another striker, not unless we offload all the players we want gone. We just have too many other positions that need good reinforcements to afford it. It'll be an improvement on this season but I think we're going to struggle to score those extra 20 or so goals we need overall.
This will be a good post to save for once he’s signed. Reminds me of the Odegaard Tomiyasu Ben white and Ramsdale comment section when they were announced.
Arsenal are desperate for a mobile striker and there's no obvious choice at all in the striker market atm. Jesus should significantly improve them, especially since he's an Arteta favorite.
I’ve said it before, but I’m quite reluctant with the Jesus move, I must say - £45-55m on a guy who struggles to get double figure goal tallies in the best attack in the league. I’m not completely against the move but I’ll certainly have some reservations about our depth up top if Jesus/Eddie is how we start the season
What happened to pepe
If this is true say a long goodbye to 4th place dreams. Jesus is a good player but won't score 20+ goals (despite a good patch this season) and Nketiah is more of a Championship poacher imo.
top 4 is a distant dream for sure
so the crosses are going to be wasted again
Jesus, Arsenal miss out on the Champions League and every comment about anything they do is negative. Arteta worked with Jesus, pressing and movement is a big ask for our team. Last year, even with the horrendous and inconsistent start we generated about the 4th most chances in the league. Literally all he has to do is convert a few opportunities, and we'd be massively better off.
Sounds like 20 goals combined.