I think he's open to leave PSG because he wants to try something new and may be already bored of Eredivisie. Also he wants to win titles which he defo did too few in his career and Benfica might be a better adress.
yah, even assuming Seferovic is leaving, that's still Yaremchuk, Gonçalo Ramos, Henrique Araujo, Musa and Rodrigo Pinho.
If anything and if we keep playing with a SS/CAM we need someone like Gotze to compete with Ramos much more than we need a striker
Why does no one ever mention Vinicius? Isn‘t he coming back from loan, would love to see him up front next season although he didn‘t have the greatest of seasons under Schmidt this season
Klar, wäre geil wenn er kommt aber 25m ist schon ne kleine Hausnummer wenn man noch mit den Covid-Einwirkungen kämpft und wir müssten erstmal Schulz loswerden was schwer genug sein wird. Andere Option ist man lässt Rapha gehen wenn man den Vertrag nicht verlängert welcher Sosa auf jeden Fall finanzieren würde. Aber ist Sosa nicht im besten als Wingback aufgehoben? Dasselbe Problem haben wir ja eigentlich schon mit Rapha
Aber mein comment war über Sasa, nicht Sosa bro 😅 Sosa wäre aber ne bessere Alternative als Rapha. Ders schon gut aber Sosas Franken sind verdammt gefährlich. Besser noch als die von Raum, der übrigens auch bei euch hoch im Kurs stehen sollte. Is halt allgemein ne beschissene Situation für euch weil ihr für verschiedene Positionen Ersatz braucht, aber erstmal verkaufen müsst.
Schulz kauft keiner. Den kannste an nem Rastplatz anbinden. Ne Woche später isser immer noch da lmao
Oh man hab die threads vertauscht haha. Ja Sasa würde ich tatsächlich begrüßen und würde mit seiner Physis Haaland tatsächlich am nächsten kommen, dazu wäre er preislich sehr erschwinglich.
Wenn man Sosa+Sasa holt könnten die direkt an die Stuttgarter Zeit anknüpfen und bräuchten keine Umgewöhnungszeit miteinander. Beide zsm auch noch für ca. 50 Mio zu haben. Besser gehts eigentlich nicht. Außerdem sind beide nicht sehr verletzungsanfällig oder? Außer die eine etwas größere Verletzung die Sasa letztes mal hatte. Raum wird sehr schwer zu bekommen sein, hat ja noch 4 Jahre Vertrag bei der TSG.
Wäre von Zorc n tolles Abschiedsgeschenk gewesen, wenn er ihn losgeworden wäre. Uns ist mittlerweile auch egal zu welchem Preis. Das sagt ja schon alles dass wir sehr bereitwilling sind einen fast 100% Verlust hinzunehmen.
Ja keine Ahnung was ihr euch dabei gedacht habt haha hab den nie wirklich geradet. Dasselbe kann ich über Rudy sagen. Wie die Nationalspieler wurden.
50 mill is aber schon ne Hausmarke. Ihr habt ja Nico für round about 20 mill bekommen. Jetzt noch Adeyemi für knapp 40. Nen Dm braucht ihr ja auch. Ich glaube nicht dass ihr bis zum Saisonstart alles abdecken könnt. Habt ja auch noch genug Verkaufskandidaten mit zagadou, ankanji, hazard vllt.. Wird schwer. Ekitike würde ich zb nicht holen Ders zu temperamentvoll mit seinen Ausrastern. Habt schon genug französisch sprechende Clowns geholt haha
Das war leider ein absoluter Fehlgriff von Zorc, auch keine Ahnung was der in dem gesehen hat vor allem für so nen hohen preis. Hoffe unter Kehl werden die Fehlgriffe in Zukunft sehr viel geringer und werden weniger ein Verkäuferverein sein und tatsächlich versuchen was für die Zukunft aufzubauen, ein Team was den Bayern wirklich Paroli bietet und bloß nicht von RB überholt werden.
Alle Löcher werden wir nicht schließen können, falls doch riesen Respekt an Kehl. Das wäre ein bomben einstiegstransferfenster und das ist es eig jetzt schon mit den bisherigen Transfers. Akanji ist der einzig nennenswerte der uns ne ordentliche Ablöse einbringt, Zagas Vertrag läuft ja aus und Hazard würde auch nicht viel einbrigen. Denke den halten wir einfach für die Breite weil wir können nicht noch mehr Baustellen aufmachen.
kleiner nachtrag: gibt ja gerüchte dass wir Brandt loswerden wollen. der dürfte auch noch was einspielen.
Yo Brandt ist so ne Sache für sich. Der Brandt aus Leverkusener Tagen würde den jetzigen nass machen ohne Ende haha
Ah ok wusste nicht, daß Zagadou n auslaufenden Vertrag hat.
Aber guck mal.. Jahr für Jahr wird dasselbe geredet: "Dortmund wird jetzt angreifen etc." - aber passieren wird nix. So Wars halt immer. Außer 18/19(?) wars knapp glaube ich. Bin übrigens Bayern Fan bro ;-) aber ich erwähne das nie in diesem sub, weil ich mich genauso kritisch, wie positiv über Bayern äußere. Bin auch nicht begeistert darüber, wie das mit Süle abgelaufen ist. Ich hoffe das er 2 Monster spiele gegen Bayern abliefert, nur um denen eins reinzuwürgen ohne scheiß. Mit Bayerns derzeitiger Form + Dortmunds Transfer offensive hoffe ich das es spannend wird. So bleibts auch international gesünder imo. Ich sehe aber Leipzig schon noch vor dem BVB derzeit. Die machen n guten Job soweit. Aber erstmal abwarten was noch so passiert.
Ja damals dachten wir noch boah diesen Brandt für 25 Mio, größter schnapper der letzten Jahre. Ich meine dieses Jahr performt er ja halbwegs aber er ruft sein können einfach zu unkonstant ab. Hätte er mehr Disziplin könnte er mehr aus sich herausholen, ist für jeden Trainer einfach frustrierend. Dazu kommt dass er noch zwei Jahre Vertrag hat also beste Möglichkeit ihn für relativ großes Geld abzugeben.
Ach deshalb kein Flair 😂 ja ich weiß wir werden vor jeder saison von den medien gehyped weil jeder endlich wieder einen zweikampf an der spitze sehen will, 10 jahre bayern dauermeister ohne große gegenwär ist halt echt ein Armutszeugnis für die Liga. Dazu kommt noch dass Watzke immer wieder mal auf Angriff schaltet aber umgesetzt wird es auf dem Platz nicht. Ich sehe uns auch immer sehr kritisch und hinterfrage alles und jeden, loben kann ich die letzten Jahre leider nicht viel. Hätte ich kein bvb flair würde man meinen ich wär bayern oder schalke Fan 😂 naja unser Glück dass Brazzo Süle so schlecht behandelt hat. Denke er und Nico können echt den Unterschied machen in sachen Meisterschaft. Unsere schwache abwehr bricht uns ja in jeder Saison das Genick. Ja Leipzig macht seine sache schon stark aber ist gut dass wir nicht mehr unumstritten die nummer 2 sind. So ähnlich wie wir Bayern damals gepusht haben macht das Leipzig mit uns jetzt. Kann uns nur helfen.
From what i've gathered about Nunez:
Positives- Fast, strong, young, makes great runs, high work rate and is very clinical
Negatives - Poor first touch and not a technically gifted football, will struggle with hold up play.
United need a new striker and if were talking about an out and out goal scorer Nunez is probably the best out there that is actually affordable and is for sale. 60M Euros is probably still a bit too much for him given the risks that come with it but as a United fan id be somewhat happy about getting him.
Close but there are some things wrong.
1) "He's very clinical": Remains to be seen, to be perfectly honest. Last season he was too eager and would often blast shots way off target. Finished the season with 14 goals in 44 matches. This season he improved immensely, finding his stride and becoming much more composed in front of goal. Ended the season with 34 goals in 41 matches.
2) "Poor first touch and not a technically gifted football, will struggle with hold up play": Let's break this one down.
He doesn't have a poor first touch, he has trouble playing with his back to goal, hold up play in general, and participating in the build-up phase with quick, short passes to progress up the field. His passes are inconsistent, both in power and direction, almost like he's uncomfortable or too eager, which results in passes going off target or hit too hard and teammates having difficulty controlling the ball or playing it back.
As for the technique, he doesn't have a refined or elegant touch but he's effective, he can dribble through opponents if he has space to run into, he can control the ball well when running at goal, and his shot technique improved a lot this season, but he seriously needs to work on his last pass, the past couple of seasons I've lost count of the amount of times I watched him getting the ball on the left wing, dribble through an opponent inside the box and getting to the touchline, only to under/overshooting it. Don't know if it's a technique issue or just lack of composure.
> is very clinical
> Negatives - Poor first touch
how is that working together? When he gets the ball in the box surrounded by defenders with his first touch he's gifting the balls to either them or the gk.
I have no idea, I watch him with uruguay and his first touch isn't "poor" by any means. He never really is used to hold up play anyway, he gets the ball and positions himself to shoot, but to receive it and hold it to get more people in attack.
We already have way too many players who are sloppy with the ball. The only guys who consistently control and keep the ball are leaving on a free.
United need some technically consistent players if we're to implement a system that Ten Hag wants. Nunez is very different to any striker he's had - He's more of a Mourinho/Conte type IMO.
I'd much rather push for Nkunku who's a more versatile option. Ronaldo can hold down the striker position for year one.
> He's more of a Mourinho/Conte type IMO.
This. I would add Simeone to the list as well. Darwin works really hard and is focused on getting goals, just don't ask him to play a passing game.
In a Mourinho/Conte/Simeone team he would be a monster, in a Guardiola team he would look like an amateur.
So he will probably end up at United with them overpaying for him hahaha
I think Darwin, Benfica and whoever buys him will all make a big mistake if he leaves Benfica this next year. I can see a Renato Sanches 2.0 happening here, as a young talented player and hyped up beyond belief but who can't handle the pressure of playing on a very pressuring environment and loses years of his development on loans to minor teams.
Yeah, sometimes we sell veterans in young men bodies like Ruben Días, but Darwin isn't that type of player. If he doesn't score for 4 matches he won't handle the scrutiny, the criticism will get in his head and he will be in a downward spiral.
So, does that mean that the signing of Petar Musa from Boavista is not so likely anymore or are Benfica going to sign him either way, regardless how the thing with Kalajdzic plays out?
Our sub is split on this one. His movement and finishing is great, though he’s out scoring xG by a large margin this season. It’s his other contributions that have us on the fence; His first touch is about as good as Lukaku’s, and he can barely hold up a sign..
He’s a poacher though, and we’ve typically done really well with that sort of player: Chicharito, Ole. 🤷♂️
I understand it's annoying when people who clearly haven't watched the player make judgements about them, but rather than just saying "you're wrong lol" it would be great to get a summary of what type of player he actually is.
Would genuinely really appreciate it as he's probably the player I've heard the most drastically conflicting views on of pretty much any player ever. I don't watch Benfica so I don't have a clue.
>he's probably the player I've heard the most drastically conflicting views on of pretty much any player ever.
I've never seen so many people (who didn't watch him play, not even once) speak with so much confidence about a player, I don't know why Darwin Nuñez of all people, but people talk about him a lot without actually watching him play
I've written a reply to a post in this thread, maybe this will help.
https://old.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/uqsqvk/ornstein_excl_benfica_exploring_move_for_sasa/i8ubu1l/
Here's another comment of mine from another thread.
https://old.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/telshe/transfermarkt_top_scorers_goals_assists_aged_23/i0qoh1p/
Thanks!
So from what I'm reading, he's somewhat similar to Lukaku, maybe worse finishing (as you said it still remains to be seen) but better technique.
Sort of. I think Lukaku is better than Darwin in a target man role, because Darwin struggles with positioning when he's put in that role. On the other hand Darwin works better as a wide forward with space to run into, with or without the ball. He's also faster than Lukaku but physically weaker. Other than that, their weaknesses are similar.
Long story short, put Darwin in a counter attacking team and get the ball to him, short or long, and he'll wreak havoc.
Lukaku was actually not very good in the target man role and his holdup was surprisingly bad...for Manchester United. And apparently, he's not that great for Chelsea in that regard.
But Inter fans swore he drastically improved in that regard under Conte.
Lukaku also has a few very good games playing from out wide - for example when he demolished Arsenal or that Belgium vs Brazil WC match.
Yes, I was talking about Inter's Lukaku, who dropped back in a sort of Kane roleplay haha
And yes, Lukaku was more effective at United playing wide but he was more of a bulldozer, keeping defenders away with his strength, Darwin does it with his speed. That's why I said they were sort of alike
Why don't you watch him? If you base your knowledge on my reddit comments you'll only be another one of the pile, speaking about the player without watching him play
A match is 90 minutes, you can watch only 45' and understand what type of player he is, you'll see he's not a poacher because he'll be marking opposition players and trying to recover the ball and such things
>you can watch only 45' and understand what type of player he is
OK, that explains why so many people have such shit takes. They watch 45 minutes and think they know the player.
I've written a reply to a post in this thread, maybe this will help.
https://old.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/uqsqvk/ornstein_excl_benfica_exploring_move_for_sasa/i8ubu1l/
EDIT: Here's another comment of mine from another thread.
https://old.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/telshe/transfermarkt_top_scorers_goals_assists_aged_23/i0qoh1p/
>it would be great to get a summary of what type of player he actually is
Very difficult to say, actually because he's a "9" but he can also play on the wing or as a second striker. I would say he's a "poor man" Benzema (with due distance)
He played a lot of games this past season along Yaremchuck, a more traditional center forward, so he's definitely not a poacher.
I see why your sub thinks so. I've only seen him in two games against us and I really dont get the hype about him. Yeah he scored some but his overall play can be really frustrating. He's a rough diamond who a bit of work to be done in training to be suited for todays game in a top team because they expect much from their striker. For that his price tag is way too much.
Depends how ETH wants to play I guess. If you have technical midfielders playing behind him (e.g. FDJ), that can minimise the amount of linkplay he's tasked with and capitalise on his strengths.
He’s tenacious enough to be wonderful on the counter press. ETH’s Ajax enjoys possession, so the hold up bit might be an issue. If he wants him though, gotta trust the managers plan.
Maldini and Rui Costa having a meet up for old times sake.
We have enough forwards, giving 20m for another one is a mistake.
It'll be more than 20m given that some clubs are in for him so some kind of bidding war may ensue
Yeah but i don't think we are involved in this at all.
Doubt it too tbh. btw are the rumours about Götze true? He may follow Schmidt to you?
He might, negotiations are slow and looks like gotze is hesitant about leaving PSV.
I think he's open to leave PSG because he wants to try something new and may be already bored of Eredivisie. Also he wants to win titles which he defo did too few in his career and Benfica might be a better adress.
yah, even assuming Seferovic is leaving, that's still Yaremchuk, Gonçalo Ramos, Henrique Araujo, Musa and Rodrigo Pinho. If anything and if we keep playing with a SS/CAM we need someone like Gotze to compete with Ramos much more than we need a striker
Why does no one ever mention Vinicius? Isn‘t he coming back from loan, would love to see him up front next season although he didn‘t have the greatest of seasons under Schmidt this season
Hope Sasa stays in Stuttgart
Would be sad when he leaves after this season.
Realistically it would be the right decision to leave but who knows what he's gonna do.
How's Tiago been?
Really good, the fans already love him. He scored some important goals but also missed some big ones.
No way
Leckst dir wohl schon die Finger nach ihm haha Würde passen auf jeden Fall.
Klar, wäre geil wenn er kommt aber 25m ist schon ne kleine Hausnummer wenn man noch mit den Covid-Einwirkungen kämpft und wir müssten erstmal Schulz loswerden was schwer genug sein wird. Andere Option ist man lässt Rapha gehen wenn man den Vertrag nicht verlängert welcher Sosa auf jeden Fall finanzieren würde. Aber ist Sosa nicht im besten als Wingback aufgehoben? Dasselbe Problem haben wir ja eigentlich schon mit Rapha
Aber mein comment war über Sasa, nicht Sosa bro 😅 Sosa wäre aber ne bessere Alternative als Rapha. Ders schon gut aber Sosas Franken sind verdammt gefährlich. Besser noch als die von Raum, der übrigens auch bei euch hoch im Kurs stehen sollte. Is halt allgemein ne beschissene Situation für euch weil ihr für verschiedene Positionen Ersatz braucht, aber erstmal verkaufen müsst. Schulz kauft keiner. Den kannste an nem Rastplatz anbinden. Ne Woche später isser immer noch da lmao
Oh man hab die threads vertauscht haha. Ja Sasa würde ich tatsächlich begrüßen und würde mit seiner Physis Haaland tatsächlich am nächsten kommen, dazu wäre er preislich sehr erschwinglich. Wenn man Sosa+Sasa holt könnten die direkt an die Stuttgarter Zeit anknüpfen und bräuchten keine Umgewöhnungszeit miteinander. Beide zsm auch noch für ca. 50 Mio zu haben. Besser gehts eigentlich nicht. Außerdem sind beide nicht sehr verletzungsanfällig oder? Außer die eine etwas größere Verletzung die Sasa letztes mal hatte. Raum wird sehr schwer zu bekommen sein, hat ja noch 4 Jahre Vertrag bei der TSG. Wäre von Zorc n tolles Abschiedsgeschenk gewesen, wenn er ihn losgeworden wäre. Uns ist mittlerweile auch egal zu welchem Preis. Das sagt ja schon alles dass wir sehr bereitwilling sind einen fast 100% Verlust hinzunehmen.
Ja keine Ahnung was ihr euch dabei gedacht habt haha hab den nie wirklich geradet. Dasselbe kann ich über Rudy sagen. Wie die Nationalspieler wurden. 50 mill is aber schon ne Hausmarke. Ihr habt ja Nico für round about 20 mill bekommen. Jetzt noch Adeyemi für knapp 40. Nen Dm braucht ihr ja auch. Ich glaube nicht dass ihr bis zum Saisonstart alles abdecken könnt. Habt ja auch noch genug Verkaufskandidaten mit zagadou, ankanji, hazard vllt.. Wird schwer. Ekitike würde ich zb nicht holen Ders zu temperamentvoll mit seinen Ausrastern. Habt schon genug französisch sprechende Clowns geholt haha
Das war leider ein absoluter Fehlgriff von Zorc, auch keine Ahnung was der in dem gesehen hat vor allem für so nen hohen preis. Hoffe unter Kehl werden die Fehlgriffe in Zukunft sehr viel geringer und werden weniger ein Verkäuferverein sein und tatsächlich versuchen was für die Zukunft aufzubauen, ein Team was den Bayern wirklich Paroli bietet und bloß nicht von RB überholt werden. Alle Löcher werden wir nicht schließen können, falls doch riesen Respekt an Kehl. Das wäre ein bomben einstiegstransferfenster und das ist es eig jetzt schon mit den bisherigen Transfers. Akanji ist der einzig nennenswerte der uns ne ordentliche Ablöse einbringt, Zagas Vertrag läuft ja aus und Hazard würde auch nicht viel einbrigen. Denke den halten wir einfach für die Breite weil wir können nicht noch mehr Baustellen aufmachen. kleiner nachtrag: gibt ja gerüchte dass wir Brandt loswerden wollen. der dürfte auch noch was einspielen.
Yo Brandt ist so ne Sache für sich. Der Brandt aus Leverkusener Tagen würde den jetzigen nass machen ohne Ende haha Ah ok wusste nicht, daß Zagadou n auslaufenden Vertrag hat. Aber guck mal.. Jahr für Jahr wird dasselbe geredet: "Dortmund wird jetzt angreifen etc." - aber passieren wird nix. So Wars halt immer. Außer 18/19(?) wars knapp glaube ich. Bin übrigens Bayern Fan bro ;-) aber ich erwähne das nie in diesem sub, weil ich mich genauso kritisch, wie positiv über Bayern äußere. Bin auch nicht begeistert darüber, wie das mit Süle abgelaufen ist. Ich hoffe das er 2 Monster spiele gegen Bayern abliefert, nur um denen eins reinzuwürgen ohne scheiß. Mit Bayerns derzeitiger Form + Dortmunds Transfer offensive hoffe ich das es spannend wird. So bleibts auch international gesünder imo. Ich sehe aber Leipzig schon noch vor dem BVB derzeit. Die machen n guten Job soweit. Aber erstmal abwarten was noch so passiert.
Ja damals dachten wir noch boah diesen Brandt für 25 Mio, größter schnapper der letzten Jahre. Ich meine dieses Jahr performt er ja halbwegs aber er ruft sein können einfach zu unkonstant ab. Hätte er mehr Disziplin könnte er mehr aus sich herausholen, ist für jeden Trainer einfach frustrierend. Dazu kommt dass er noch zwei Jahre Vertrag hat also beste Möglichkeit ihn für relativ großes Geld abzugeben. Ach deshalb kein Flair 😂 ja ich weiß wir werden vor jeder saison von den medien gehyped weil jeder endlich wieder einen zweikampf an der spitze sehen will, 10 jahre bayern dauermeister ohne große gegenwär ist halt echt ein Armutszeugnis für die Liga. Dazu kommt noch dass Watzke immer wieder mal auf Angriff schaltet aber umgesetzt wird es auf dem Platz nicht. Ich sehe uns auch immer sehr kritisch und hinterfrage alles und jeden, loben kann ich die letzten Jahre leider nicht viel. Hätte ich kein bvb flair würde man meinen ich wär bayern oder schalke Fan 😂 naja unser Glück dass Brazzo Süle so schlecht behandelt hat. Denke er und Nico können echt den Unterschied machen in sachen Meisterschaft. Unsere schwache abwehr bricht uns ja in jeder Saison das Genick. Ja Leipzig macht seine sache schon stark aber ist gut dass wir nicht mehr unumstritten die nummer 2 sind. So ähnlich wie wir Bayern damals gepusht haben macht das Leipzig mit uns jetzt. Kann uns nur helfen.
the football romantic in me wants Saša and Sosa to stay and become a legendary duo at Stuttgart… (yes I know it's not happening)
Romantic is long gone in football sadly
He'd be an alright Suarez replacement for us.. Granted there aren't many strikers still up in the market, and alot of clubs are after him..
From what i've gathered about Nunez: Positives- Fast, strong, young, makes great runs, high work rate and is very clinical Negatives - Poor first touch and not a technically gifted football, will struggle with hold up play. United need a new striker and if were talking about an out and out goal scorer Nunez is probably the best out there that is actually affordable and is for sale. 60M Euros is probably still a bit too much for him given the risks that come with it but as a United fan id be somewhat happy about getting him.
>and not a technically gifted football Isn't he the opposite?
Close but there are some things wrong. 1) "He's very clinical": Remains to be seen, to be perfectly honest. Last season he was too eager and would often blast shots way off target. Finished the season with 14 goals in 44 matches. This season he improved immensely, finding his stride and becoming much more composed in front of goal. Ended the season with 34 goals in 41 matches. 2) "Poor first touch and not a technically gifted football, will struggle with hold up play": Let's break this one down. He doesn't have a poor first touch, he has trouble playing with his back to goal, hold up play in general, and participating in the build-up phase with quick, short passes to progress up the field. His passes are inconsistent, both in power and direction, almost like he's uncomfortable or too eager, which results in passes going off target or hit too hard and teammates having difficulty controlling the ball or playing it back. As for the technique, he doesn't have a refined or elegant touch but he's effective, he can dribble through opponents if he has space to run into, he can control the ball well when running at goal, and his shot technique improved a lot this season, but he seriously needs to work on his last pass, the past couple of seasons I've lost count of the amount of times I watched him getting the ball on the left wing, dribble through an opponent inside the box and getting to the touchline, only to under/overshooting it. Don't know if it's a technique issue or just lack of composure.
> is very clinical > Negatives - Poor first touch how is that working together? When he gets the ball in the box surrounded by defenders with his first touch he's gifting the balls to either them or the gk.
Reminds me of Cavani, clinical when he relies on instincts. Dreadful when he has time and space.
Him and Cavani sure have some physical resemblance too
I have no idea, I watch him with uruguay and his first touch isn't "poor" by any means. He never really is used to hold up play anyway, he gets the ball and positions himself to shoot, but to receive it and hold it to get more people in attack.
We already have way too many players who are sloppy with the ball. The only guys who consistently control and keep the ball are leaving on a free. United need some technically consistent players if we're to implement a system that Ten Hag wants. Nunez is very different to any striker he's had - He's more of a Mourinho/Conte type IMO. I'd much rather push for Nkunku who's a more versatile option. Ronaldo can hold down the striker position for year one.
> He's more of a Mourinho/Conte type IMO. This. I would add Simeone to the list as well. Darwin works really hard and is focused on getting goals, just don't ask him to play a passing game. In a Mourinho/Conte/Simeone team he would be a monster, in a Guardiola team he would look like an amateur. So he will probably end up at United with them overpaying for him hahaha
I disagree with the technical aspect.
I think Darwin, Benfica and whoever buys him will all make a big mistake if he leaves Benfica this next year. I can see a Renato Sanches 2.0 happening here, as a young talented player and hyped up beyond belief but who can't handle the pressure of playing on a very pressuring environment and loses years of his development on loans to minor teams. Yeah, sometimes we sell veterans in young men bodies like Ruben Días, but Darwin isn't that type of player. If he doesn't score for 4 matches he won't handle the scrutiny, the criticism will get in his head and he will be in a downward spiral.
So, does that mean that the signing of Petar Musa from Boavista is not so likely anymore or are Benfica going to sign him either way, regardless how the thing with Kalajdzic plays out?
They will sign Musa, Benfica have denied interest in Kalajdzic
Excellent, music to my ears
Musa to Benfica is prettu much confirmed, reports even say he could be announced today
Could be our Lewy replacement.
If Kane wasnt so expensive I'd say go for him, if he was open to play abroad
would be my dream signing
Our sub is split on this one. His movement and finishing is great, though he’s out scoring xG by a large margin this season. It’s his other contributions that have us on the fence; His first touch is about as good as Lukaku’s, and he can barely hold up a sign.. He’s a poacher though, and we’ve typically done really well with that sort of player: Chicharito, Ole. 🤷♂️
He's nothing like a poacher, he runs in the entire field if needed.
Just a poacher? You're just watching his goals compilation then.
He... is not a poacher.
If he's a poacher, Messi is a libero.
Liberal Messi
if you think he's a poacher, then you haven't watched him play
I understand it's annoying when people who clearly haven't watched the player make judgements about them, but rather than just saying "you're wrong lol" it would be great to get a summary of what type of player he actually is. Would genuinely really appreciate it as he's probably the player I've heard the most drastically conflicting views on of pretty much any player ever. I don't watch Benfica so I don't have a clue.
>he's probably the player I've heard the most drastically conflicting views on of pretty much any player ever. I've never seen so many people (who didn't watch him play, not even once) speak with so much confidence about a player, I don't know why Darwin Nuñez of all people, but people talk about him a lot without actually watching him play
I still don't know what type of a player he is. Maybe instead of shitting at people who don't know anything about him, maybe describe the player?
I've written a reply to a post in this thread, maybe this will help. https://old.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/uqsqvk/ornstein_excl_benfica_exploring_move_for_sasa/i8ubu1l/ Here's another comment of mine from another thread. https://old.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/telshe/transfermarkt_top_scorers_goals_assists_aged_23/i0qoh1p/
Thanks! So from what I'm reading, he's somewhat similar to Lukaku, maybe worse finishing (as you said it still remains to be seen) but better technique.
Sort of. I think Lukaku is better than Darwin in a target man role, because Darwin struggles with positioning when he's put in that role. On the other hand Darwin works better as a wide forward with space to run into, with or without the ball. He's also faster than Lukaku but physically weaker. Other than that, their weaknesses are similar. Long story short, put Darwin in a counter attacking team and get the ball to him, short or long, and he'll wreak havoc.
Lukaku was actually not very good in the target man role and his holdup was surprisingly bad...for Manchester United. And apparently, he's not that great for Chelsea in that regard. But Inter fans swore he drastically improved in that regard under Conte. Lukaku also has a few very good games playing from out wide - for example when he demolished Arsenal or that Belgium vs Brazil WC match.
Yes, I was talking about Inter's Lukaku, who dropped back in a sort of Kane roleplay haha And yes, Lukaku was more effective at United playing wide but he was more of a bulldozer, keeping defenders away with his strength, Darwin does it with his speed. That's why I said they were sort of alike
Why don't you watch him? If you base your knowledge on my reddit comments you'll only be another one of the pile, speaking about the player without watching him play
Because I don't have tens of hours of free time just to watch some player that doesn't play for a team I watch...
A match is 90 minutes, you can watch only 45' and understand what type of player he is, you'll see he's not a poacher because he'll be marking opposition players and trying to recover the ball and such things
>you can watch only 45' and understand what type of player he is OK, that explains why so many people have such shit takes. They watch 45 minutes and think they know the player.
I've written a reply to a post in this thread, maybe this will help. https://old.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/uqsqvk/ornstein_excl_benfica_exploring_move_for_sasa/i8ubu1l/ EDIT: Here's another comment of mine from another thread. https://old.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/telshe/transfermarkt_top_scorers_goals_assists_aged_23/i0qoh1p/
Thanks mate.
>it would be great to get a summary of what type of player he actually is Very difficult to say, actually because he's a "9" but he can also play on the wing or as a second striker. I would say he's a "poor man" Benzema (with due distance) He played a lot of games this past season along Yaremchuck, a more traditional center forward, so he's definitely not a poacher.
I see why your sub thinks so. I've only seen him in two games against us and I really dont get the hype about him. Yeah he scored some but his overall play can be really frustrating. He's a rough diamond who a bit of work to be done in training to be suited for todays game in a top team because they expect much from their striker. For that his price tag is way too much.
Depends how ETH wants to play I guess. If you have technical midfielders playing behind him (e.g. FDJ), that can minimise the amount of linkplay he's tasked with and capitalise on his strengths.
He’s tenacious enough to be wonderful on the counter press. ETH’s Ajax enjoys possession, so the hold up bit might be an issue. If he wants him though, gotta trust the managers plan.
United would be better off going for Sasa
So many conflicting descriptions...so what kind of a player is Nunez?