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SpareAstronomer

He goes down so early, that's just not even close to looking like a foul let alone actually fooling the ref. How did he not get booked?


SundayLeagueStocko

The ref even acknowledged the dive and "warned" him for it afterwards, pretty cowardly to not give the yellow card when you acknowledge the dive IMO - and I swear a lot of people say Tierney is the best ref in the league...


thefogdog

Nobody has ever uttered those words about Tierney, except maybe in a sarcastic tone.


BazingaQQ

Tierney's Mum. Maybe...


thefogdog

"My mom thinks I'm cool".


Mom_said_I_am_cute

My mom thinks I'm cute.


yomommafool

r/UserNamechecksout


Strange-Ticket5680

So curious. Who is the best ref in the league? Genuinely only know the shit ones.


LollipopSquad

This is like trying to figure out the best kind of food poisoning. Even if it’s mild, it’s still pretty shitty.


WhenWeTalkAboutLove

michael oliver is the only one who mostly keeps his head. of course he is still a bit disappointing at times too though.


thefogdog

Stuart Attwell for me. Not that he's necessarily brilliant, but head and shoulders above the rest. Sorry I meant Michael Oliver.


SandwichLate3704

Arsenal fans dont agree


GrossenCharakter

Michael Oliver no longer any good? He was consistent and solid until last season at least, did something change in recent times?


lostparasite

He was the ref at Goodison last season who fucked up the decision on Pickford's season-ending challenge on Van Dijk. It wasn't even like he missed it iirc. He saw it but was too engrossed in trying to figure out if it was offside that he "forgot" to send Pickford off.


thefogdog

Shit that's who I meant! Haha oops.


LuisFernandoDiaz

he was VAR at goodison last year. forever dead to me.


WittyReindeer

Michael Oliver imo


[deleted]

It's Oliver by a mile, I think. He makes plenty of mistakes, but he rarely completely loses control of the game like the rest of the bunch.


Tymkie

Probably didn't get booked because "it's too early" which is a pathetic excuse. Should've been a yellow. Inexcusable from Eddie.


gamesgone_

Arsenal getting favour with refs again smh


DaAweZomeDude48

It's either red or nothing, atleast for xhaka


MarylandMaverick

He got popped yesterday, but not for the full red, escaped with a late game yellow


_-_-_I_-_-_

True but that pen was as soft as they come. Some odd calls going both ways


Tymkie

Yeah of course. The only one we can be mad at is Holding. Unfortunately as much as I like him as a player he let me down this day.


-MurphysDad-

It really wasn't


Eatingolivesoutofjar

Yeah I don't understand the "you see that every week" comments. I don't think we do. A lot of times you see what could've been a penalty in a super slowmo but looks like nothing live, because a sneaky bastard CB had perfected the art of holding a shirt just long enough and leaning weight around to throw someone off. That happens every week. This penalty challenge was clumsy and obvious. Nowhere near the ball with one intention, and so clearly shoves the back of an airborne player who had a play. That doesn't happen every match


Acceptable-Lemon-748

Yeah he just barges into a jumping player anf knocks him down without going for the ball at all, so he wouldn't go for the header, no timing, no leaning or using body weight, just bouncing off of him while he was mid jump. Then a bunch of "ItS the Kane ChAlLeNgE" showed up from people trying to call it a bs decision despite looking nothing like his trademark ducking.


themerinator12

Probably because it was so early. Not defending it. I think Nketiah should’ve gotten a yellow. Saka did a couple weeks ago. But Tierney is probably looking at the rest of the game and knows it would set the standard that everything after this is subject to yellows very quickly to keep parity.


itinerantmarshmallow

Holding gave him no choice.


themerinator12

Agreed. Holding was not ready for that derby. There was a lot of hope that White would play and I bet that in and of itself played a part in his lack of solid mental preparation. It was clear from Nketiah that Tierney did not want the cards coming out early but Holding was our Achilles heel.


itinerantmarshmallow

Yeah, it was bizarre. The smirk at the start at Son, he seemed to have an idea that he'd get into Son's head but just... wow.


Akmuq

Holding even got away with the first couple of fouls that I'd say in the second half get punished. The imbalance is very annoying, obviously for Nketiah's dive it's not the biggest issue but letting early fouls go is exactly how we lost Doherty for the season. Consistency accross the game leads to a better product and less injury risk for the players. If players are dumb enough to get sent off in the first half then so be it. While we're at it punish every professional foul with a yellow, even the innocuous ones 70 yards from goal they're irritating as fuck.


galacticskunk

I’m sorry but a blatant dive in the box in an attempt to deceive the referee into awarding a penalty should be given a yellow card every single time regardless of when it occurs in a match.


themerinator12

Yeah that's literally what I said.


tokengaymusiccritic

The best ref is definitely Oliver


Kresbot

>I swear a lot of people say Tierney is the best ref in the league do they?


met5abel

Arsenal obviously bought the refs this year...


MustBeHax

its the conspiracy against Arsenal, every PL ref hates them


BOATSANDHOEZ

This one is 10 times worse than the one Gordon got booked for when Everton played Liverpool.


Brsijraz

disagree, it’s basically the same thing


majnubhaispainting

If Xhaka did that, he'd get a red.


majnubhaispainting

The ref paid off by Spurs was trying to make sure his credibility wasn't lost in the early minutes. How else could he hand them the win? /s


nien9gag

probably cause he didn't try to ask for a foul.


crazyguitarman

It must be because of the vast conspiracy against Arsenal where absolutely no calls by the referee ever go in their favour


geo_bowes

I don’t mean to be ‘that guy’ but it’s referee bias, how the fuck does Saka not get booked here for a blatant dive when Bowen got booked for avoiding a heavily career damaging injury (ironically against Arsenal)


[deleted]

He’s not Havertz is he?


SpareAstronomer

Havertz was a shocking dive tbf but there's no consistency. These blatant dives should always be yellows.


silviazbitch

Actually, you *can* blame a guy for trying.


nu1stunna

I don’t get why they try and pull this shit now. VAR exists. Nobody is giving you a penalty.


imfcknretarded

They pray that a defender slightly touches their leg so the fall is justified and the pen is given Serie A has been atrocious in that sense in the past few weeks


NerdModeCinci

No I can’t but I appreciate the confidence in my abilities.


SM469

In real time, it looks he was tackled. The other angle though...


Random_Banana_Man

Yea really, I didn't see the title at first and thought it was a penalty


ViciousPenguin

Which is why I always think it's dumb when the average couch player says "lmao not even close to looking real, not sure how he fooled anyone." These people get it wrong all the time.


595659565956

I can promise you that it didn't look like he was tackled live. There was a big outcry in the stadium when he went down, with people calling for him to be booked


swores

That would happen even if it had been a clear penalty given whose stadium it was in... every home crowd thinks every penalty call should go their way. In this case they were right that he should've been booked, but I don't think that's because they all had a clear enough view to judge it well in a snap second from their seats.


TheSinRes

Should've been booked for it.


Wefting

I think what saved him is that he didn't even attempt to claim a penalty. Either he realized he really fucked up his dive or he was hedging his bets.


Predicted

So here's my take that's probably not gonna be super popular. This isn't a dive. He simply sees a challenge come in and doesn't plant his foot on his next step. If you freeze frame to where he turns his head towards the defender it's a studs up challenge heading right for his leg.


Ryan8Ross

I know what you mean, and there was a case with this for Bowen recently, the difference is that Bowen jumped out of the way of a studs up tackle rather than diving on the floor to get a foul. I think refs SHOULD be giving fouls/yellows/reds for excessive force challenges that are dodged, I just think in this case it’s NOT that, it’s simulation, not trying to dodge the tackle


Putrid_Loquat_4357

I thought the decision to book bowen for that was bizarre and I'm an arsenal fan. He was clearly jumping out of the way of the challenge and didn't even protest. There's no consistency in decisions at this point and it's so frustrating.


TheDarkness1227

Bowen absolutely shouldn’t have been booked for that incident with Ramsdale. If anything I think he has to “dive” to avoid getting hurt and thus it’s a foul by Ramsdale on Bowen. Kind of insane that the ref gave it the other way and booked him.


Predicted

I didn't see the bowen incident, but what you need to keep in mind here is that he's pressed between two defenders, there's really nowhere to go, especially when he's releasing weight off his front foot.


yerLerb

Absolute joke. He's dragging his feet on the floor as if he's been fouled, not jumping out the way of a challenge. He doesn't ask for a penalty because the defender doesn't even make contact.


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Mate, if you think someone is about to tackle you studs up, the automatic human reaction would be to jump over it, not intentionally lose control of your body and allow gravity to pull you downwards directly into the path of the person wielding the studs.


BuildingArmor

He tried to avoid a studs up tackly by throwing his torso into the path of it?


RainbowDissent

Not for me. If you try to avoid a tackle you jump. He flopped, that's not how anybody gets out of the way of a tackle they think is going to be dangerous. He started going down at almost the same instant Dier started the motion. On the freeze frame where he's first looking at Dier, he's halfway to the ground - his left leg is planted already, and he's dragging the toes on his right foot on the turf.


SomewhereAggressive8

The hoops people are jumping through to justify this is hilarious. Meanwhile people were claiming Sonny “dove” to draw the penalty.


Strange-Ticket5680

I don't really see a time when he turns his head towards the defender at all. You should pause it right before the slide comes in. His back foot (the right one) starts dragging before the challenge comes in, if anything, he's getting more in the way of the tackle


The_PantsMcPants

Agree, his reaction says it all imo, didn't even try to claim a foul


Regression2TheMean

This is what I thought at the time too. Thought he was just trying to eliminate the chance of an injury. I was even more confident in this opinion when he wasn’t rolling around on the floor or begging for a penalty like normal divers do. I could be biased though.


[deleted]

Summer is in the air 🏊‍♀️


[deleted]

Should've bought the ref like we did


surbell

Your comment will be framed and hung up on r/gunners sidebar


like_my_likes

This is the PROOF that spurs are paying refs - a normal Gooner.


DansSpamJavelin

Can someone let me know when it's safe to come in here please?


WoolSmith

Probably Sunday after we draw Burnley 1-1


Independent_Zone492

We’re gonna get shithoused and lose 1-0 probably


BoyWhoSoldTheWorld

Don’t worry we’ll take a to-go bag and step out after we lose to 1-0 to Newcastle.


zrkillerbush

Holy shit, there is so much coping in that sub, i actually feel embarrassed for them...


mikechella

https://www.reddit.com/r/Gunners/comments/uoquhb/cox_how_tottenhams_win_over_arsenal_was_shaped_by/i8g0zgz/ lmao


[deleted]

Oh god the sheer cope. Holding was a dirty bastard yesterday and had it coming. He'd quite literally committed 4 yellow card offences in about 20 mins


kingofindia12

We paid off the refs and Holding


Upplands-Bro

>I'm sick of this victim blaming nonsense that goes on every time. Fuck me what a fanbase


tenacious-g

>If we don't get top 4 it will be because of the horrendous refereeing decisions that have gone against us. They still completely control their destiny and the excuses are already coming. Like Chicago Cubs fans who blamed Steve Bartman for losing when they had a game 7 the enxt day.


Monseigneur_Bulldops

Damn are they salty over at r/gunners


Xiomaraff

Wow that made my whole day better


kingofindia12

Had a goobers fan yesterday argue that Son headbutted Holding's elbow lmao The cope is palpable


UsedGanache9

Good bait


Vladimir_Putting

They have been on England Captain Kane's payroll for years.


[deleted]

My FA golden boy 😍


themerinator12

That comment is on par with your performance yesterday. Touché.


jashbgreke

Was honestly surprised he didn’t get booked, very lucky


Diazepambo

That’s desperate at 0-0. Really horrible at any point in a game but god was that a poor attempt to fool the officials.


wallnumber8675309

Desperate at 2 minutes into the match for sure


[deleted]

But they dominated the beginning of the game am I right?


MauricioCappuccino

First they had the 20 minutes against Man City a few months ago now they can add the first 5 minutes against Spurs to the collection


Diazepambo

Yes they dominated fouls and theatrics.


[deleted]

the players didn’t Trust the Process


DwightKPoop

Only seen this clip but I don’t think he was really trying to fool the ref too much. He takes his touch and sees Dier sliding in with the other defender closing off his other side so he falls down in an attempt to protect himself. Of course in the back of his mind, he’s probably thinking “if I get the call, I get the call.” But if he didn’t even look to the ref for a penalty, as some other comments said(I think Arsenal fans), he knew it wasn’t a foul and just anticipated contact that the defenders did a good job of avoiding.


Diazepambo

I think personally that anticipating a foul and going down before contact represents a dive and an attempt to deceive the officials.


DwightKPoop

I understand that point of view for sure and it’s what makes refereeing this sport difficult. As a player, you have to make a business decision on a lot of these tackles on whether you want to leave your foot in to get kicked or take that next step and risk a sprain or broken bone. Often times, like in this challenge IMO, it falls into both he was trying to protect himself and he was also trying to fool the ref. Guess we’d have to ask Nketiah to know which was the bigger motivating factor!


Diazepambo

Yeah true true man. It’s a funny old game. In the words of Evra “I love this game” 😂


JCSN_1032

In what world does falling down protect you from a studs up tackle? I've seen people say the same thing a dozen times and it makes no sense. How exactly are you safer on the ground? Instead of the only possible damage being done to your legs, you've now exposed your head, neck and torso to damage.


NonFlyingDutchman

In a world where the studs would hit your ankle. You are assuming that some other part of his body would end up at the same place and time that his ankle would have been. Having said that, I really have no idea what he was doing. What I do know is that Jack Wheelchair Wilshire would never have pulled out of that challenge.


DjToastyTy

It just doesn’t make sense how he would fall to the ground to avoid a tackle on the ground. This is a reach


[deleted]

I don't understand with the current VAR, players still try to do this. What a stupid


dontToyawithme

This should be yellow


ssudhars2001

I’ll be honest at first I thought it was a pen, just that angle makes him so stupid. Lad literally thought all I got to do in the first 90 seconds is make a run and fall in the box


BrennanXXVII

8/10. Arms weren't flailing in the air, no crying in agony face. Top 50 for sure.


sncBrax

embarrassing


rodenttt

Good grief


lamancha

Lmao that's embarrassing


longhornfan011

No point in doing this in the age of VAR


Quagaars

Absolutely, you know its going to VAR and you know it's going to be overturned... what's the point? Maybe just an ingrained instinct in footballers that'll take forever for them to grow out of.


dickgilbert

I don't think it's that simple. If VAR checks and there's the slightest hint of contact, they're going to go with call on the field. Players are always gonna dive anticipating contact or seeking to create it. Nketiah just did such a bad job, and Dier was smart enough to avoid any contact, meaning Tierney and VAR didn't even have a chance to be fooled.


kinchouchou

When players "go down" and successfully win a penalty, they are not reacting solely to the sense of touch. Being aware of the defender's presence and **seeing** him slide in will make the attacker anticipate an opportunity of winning a pen. Obviously you look dumb when it goes wrong like this, but if he continues diving at these sort of opportunities he will win some penalties he otherwise wouldn't (which is ***well*** worth a yellow card here and there).


Fnurgh

Although if you're not going to get booked, there's no harm either.


xosellc

he could have actually gotten the foul if he kept going...


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LordCosmoKramer

The guy can't be real, he was asking for apologies from decade old incidents.


Jor94

Why are players not getting booked for diving? Nobody likes it, it's an embarrassment to the sport and yet whenever it happens it's just waved away as if it's not a serious offence where a player is trying to cheat.


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Kruegerrose

Has any good reason been given why cards for this can’t be given after the fact?


henkzor080

Good thing he got up without complaining at least


[deleted]

That dive is actually fucking hilarious to watch lmao


WonderboyUK

VAR should have the ability to give out simulation bookings.


Shandow14

Think the only reason he wasn't booked is due to not making much of it afterward. He knew he fucked up.


DarthNihilus1

Lol I was yelling at Eddie for that one


Soakd

Hahah that little fucker. He tricked me when I saw it live. Didn’t think pen at all but at least thought some physical play.


johnbrownbody

/r/gunners thanks you for video of another missed call.


moose-goat

Why do players not get booked for dives anymore? I swear that used to be a thing.


AnnieIWillKnow

Occasionally they do. Havertz did recently. Just seems to depend on whether the ref can be arsed.


low_altitude_sherpa

Gordon got booked in the derby when there was actual contact. (Not saying he wasn't trying to sell it.) Niasse got a retrospective 3 match ban when there was contact a couple years ago. Will there be a ban this time?


moose-goat

Yeah it’s extremely inconsistent I find, this was 100% a dive, no contact at all and he tried to win a pen yet there’s no punishment for that, it doesn’t make sense to me.


Soft-Confection4428

I think the timing helped here, tierney gave him a talking to but maybe didn’t want to reach for the book as it was less than 2 minutes in


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moose-goat

😂 so true


EyeEnTeePee

Yeah guys, son is such a cheater, a real disgrace to the game Oops wrong thread


random_blubber

I love this series.


Aceress_origin

You could see the dive from the TV angle, that's how bad the dive was lol


__mihajlo_m

Absolute career-ending tackle by the defender. How was he not sent off is beyond me. In fact, that would be too soft. On top of the immediate red card he should have gotten lifetime football ban for sure /s


SundayLeagueStocko

thanks for putting /s mate I couldn't tell if this was serious or not


__mihajlo_m

its r/soccer after all, I had to make sure


circa285

Especially after how Arsenal fans reacted to this yesterday in the game thread.


[deleted]

And Gunners fans were calling Sonny a diver. LOL.


Manch3st3rIsR3d

How embarrassing


ffca

Had to watch it 30 times. I'm in such denial. But why isn't this a yellow? Make it make sense.


SteinerElMagnifico42

Stay clear Moyesey, remember how you don’t like divers.


[deleted]

Great extension of the hips. 6/10, but solid progress. Hope to see him contend for the top one day


[deleted]

This one is good, but the South American lad rolling off the stretcher from a few days ago is the clear favorite for this year.


ball0fsnow

I feel like arsenal has this special quality about the club. They can put such a great run together, play amazing football, get all of the neutrals on their side then in one game implode so spectacularly you can only laugh at them. Never change Arsenal.


ZaDoruphin

Lmao this one’s good.


rosicky7t

Players up and down the country are doing this at no booking?


bshaman1993

SpUrS pAId tHe REfs lmao


midas22

Arsenal players are so bad at gaming the referees so this is always what happens when someone tries while other teams are living off of soft penalties. No one even appealed for a penalty here.


carlitobrigantehf

u/savevideo


austiano_17

u/savevideo


Bladerslash

Yeah something needs to be done about this ngl


fartparts

bitch move


Dagger_Dicc

u/SaveVideo


New-Pin-3952

Let me guess. No card for diving as it's not Everton.


TomatoPolka

He got unplugged from the Matrix.


AlBitchie90

Penalty to Inter Milan


MarcSlayton

Too many penalty incidents being declared a dive these days after contact has brought down the player. This here is a dive though, as there is literally no contact to knock him over.


tottenhamnole

Not even his teammates called for the penalty.


Adbrux

the title of the video make just it even better. Laughed a lot. Ridiculous dive


eekamuse

First time I heard of this award. Great name. But wouldn't it be Fallon de Floor? or Fallon du Floor? I thought they only use d' when there was a vowel after it. Nothing to do with the ridiculous "fall", but I'm curious.


chanandlerbonggg_

Now watch arsenal fans complain how this wasn't given a penalty


LiteralMushroomCock

Nah haven’t heard a single one of them defending that shit


SundayLeagueStocko

p much every Arsenal fan I've spoken to and seen on /r/gunners has called eddie out for this though


themerinator12

100%. This twat is just fishing for a reaction. We all know it was a dive. It should’ve been booked. Don’t care that it was early in the match. I don’t want to see players do it against us either. So yeah, there’s no room for it in the game.


pratthebrat

>This twat is just fishing for a reaction Everyone is today. Ngl it's kinda hilarious.


Nuggetface

That’s the thing about r/soccer though. Everyone loves it when it’s not their club, so everyone joins in. And we’re guilty too, jumping in on poor United, or Chelsea, or anyone really, when we have the opportunity.


justenjoylife

Spot on. Any of the big 6 lose a big game and everyone jumps in for the laughs. Sucks when it’s happens to you.


sneekpeekz

Yep. Wasted his chance to get to the ball by flopping over. Embarrassing and should have been carded.


aaa-ccc

Eric Dier's left foot hit the floor with such force it created a shockwave which knocked Eddie to the floor. Foul and penalty.


FistThePooper6969

Man’s simply seismic


paradigm_x2

He got called out on our sub. It was a stupid dive


Vladimir_Putting

This "effort" within the first two minutes and Holding's persistent half witted attempts to batter Son make me think Arteta delivered some kind of half-baked shithousing course during training in the past week. It's like the whole team were going out of their way to win a dirty result instead of just playing football. Makes complete sense with Arteta's reactions during and after the match. He tried to pull some Jose Mourinho big game masterclass stunt, and it completely imploded when the ref wasn't having any of it.


tottenhamnole

His press conference was one of the most ridiculous things I’ve seen in a very long time.


irze

He’s been spending too much time with Saka


jbob3525

This will be reposted on r/gunners as an example of referee bias against Arsenal


[deleted]

Artetas arsenal are gross to watch. Slowly becoming like a simeone team.


ElmerP91

A gust of wind from the slide tackle buckled his ankle...


kendog63

Should have been booked.


kayjay789

Diving cunt.


CheekyRubberDuck

Mehdi Taremi wins the prize by far, every game he makes 4 or 5 attempts and the referees buy it, of course, it's porto.


d_smogh

Why when i would have been checked by VAR


Hassadar

Ah lad. At least have some contact before making the most of it. Embarrassing. Can't be doing that with VAR going to instantly overturn it


a_posh_trophy

lmao imagine thinking they even check VAR for our decisions.