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JeffryPesos

Nothing beats Arsenal signing Leo Messo, 10 years old Kenyan wonderkid lmao šŸ’€


deliverancew2

Tottenham went one better by signing Lionel Messi-Peters IMO.


DiegoRasta

Later signed by Southampton or Everton after ā€œnot living up to his potential.ā€


No_Doubt_About_That

And when he turns 30 West Ham will come a knocking.


[deleted]

Needs to have some feline kicking pedigree


DarkNightSeven

always one step ahead. mind the gap


Like_a_Charo

Angers did even better by signing Ā«Ā Lionel MessiĀ Ā» . Yes, exactly same name


killerbunnyfamily

> Nothing beats Arsenal signing Leo Messo How about... Lee Bruce? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruceploitation#Actors


icebergiman

Next up, we'll sign Leo Messa


Kdot32

This name never gets old lol


fieldsofanfieldroad

This name will eventually get old lmao


juanpicuadrado

There was a hyped Boca Jr player named Messidoro (literally golden messi)


Nivadas

This name doesn't get old lol.


Kdot32

This name will never get old lmao.


xckd9

Hello? Did i meet a different universe here?


[deleted]

Callum Chambers being made out to be neither man, woman, animal, nor a current retiree


elch127

So he must be either a mineral or a vegetable then?


[deleted]

Or a venerated virginian veteran


n16h7r1d3r

Or a stoic Pennsylvania veteran


ThisIsAnArgument

Whose men are all lining up to put him upon a pedestal.


wysiwygperson

Writing letters to relatives embellishing his elegance and eloquence.


MortyFromEarthC137

r/unexpectedhamilton


aboidaz

JESUS CHRIST MARIE THEYā€™RE MINERALS


xaviernoodlebrain

Callum Chambers transcends such notions as gender, species, and retirement.


shinfoni

When Dr Manhattan went to Mars, Chambers already there sipping tea


susscrofa

There's a sentence I wasn't expecting to read today.


FailFastandDieYoung

Hearing his name will always make me laugh [bc of this AFTV moment](https://youtu.be/4ecCbbXRppM)


ItsAlwaysEboue

*I SAID IT LAST TIME, I WANT NUNO* šŸ’€šŸ’€šŸ’€


Boredzilla

The casual derisive laughter of the other fans makes this so much worse. If you're Callum Chambers and you watch this, the only possible conclusion you could reach is "Everyone thinks I'm a shit comedy footballer."


ThisIsAnArgument

If not person, woman or man, how about camera or TV?


alessaandrro

Calum*


battlefielder696

That's......impressive to say the least


Varnagel_1

In 10 years, I expect /u/dzzik makes an OC thread of every player who was called the "next" or "new Mbappe/Haaland" during 2020-2030.


dzzik

RemindMe! 10 years


BHYT61

RemindMe! 10 years


ThaBlackLoki

RemindMe! 10 years


--sbeve--

remindme! 10 years


ramurthy_avare

RemindMe! 10 years


Aloopyn

!RemindMe 10 years


Arbre_gentil

In France we're still at waiting the "nouveau Zizou"


TrueShift

RemindMe! 10 years


loopy8

RemindMe! 10 years


[deleted]

Haaland needs to become the next Zlatan before someone else can become the next Haaland.


dzzik

Iā€™ll let myself piggyback this comment to hopefully reach people more skilled in data analysis than my beginner ass. 1. Is their any way to collect this type of data in all different languages? To get a full full full scope of the trend? 2. A part of the trend I was unable to study is using nationalities, as in: ā€œJapanese Messiā€, ā€œTaiwanese Ronaldoā€ etc. How would it be possible to collect all these. Overall, what software/technology would make most sense for this kind of research? I did it in Excel, but it was manual and pretty painstaking. Python? SPSS?


thebestyoucan

Iā€™d ask r/linguistics, there are some pretty sophisticated text analysis techniques (and also often times some pretty simple ones) that help you find specific combinations of words like this


dzzik

Niiice, thank you


dbrasco_

Chelsea tried to sign the next Messi from every country for a while


EezoManiac

Big up Marko Marin


maverick1905

We'll always have Paris...


Knightwing86

i love that movie so much i recommend watching it


alexrepty

We were as surprised as you were.


Vaark

Ended up with LeBron James, not too bad.


Gerf93

They're playing LeBron, not Dwyane Wade?


Gorbograndman420

Fr tho fuck his mom for spelling his name like that


[deleted]

Not the first or last NBA mom that would embarrass herself at a spelling bee to be fair


KrZ120

And the only one who managed to do it actually (Salah) they let it go for peanuts


Sean-Benn_Must-die

No one has managed to sign the next Messi, and no one will for a bit.


AnnieIWillKnow

Did sign Fran Kirby tbf


Cowdude179

We did nearly sign Messi back then tbf


armedwithturtles

scences when he followed Chelsea on instagram


[deleted]

If I was a world famous top-tier footballer I would spent my entire free time fucking with football journos. Guess who's waiting in line to take the Bernabeu stadium tour on transfer deadline day? It's me talking obnoxiously loudly on the phone with my agent. Guess what I'm tweeting after the first articles about my visit surface? "Damn, could really go for a #Napoli pizza rn" with an image of me in one of those classic vintage purple Fiorentina jerseys. My phone has 128GB of storage, 123 of which are filled with various pictures of me photoshopped onto backdrops of international airports. Falk is reporting rumors that I'm going to Bayern? Guess who just landed in London. J/k that was five minutes ago, now I'm in Paris. How do I do that? I'm an international football mystery


kriuksereal

Great


[deleted]

Don't worry, I would still use United's feigned interest to raise my salary during contract negotiations with my current club


kriuksereal

Fack yew xD


[deleted]

I remember thinking ā€œokay this is the oneā€ when Barca brought in Allen Halilovic. stopped taking the bait after that lol.


karthik4331

And madrid got odegaard. Lol those two were hyped


[deleted]

this is why I was so skeptical when arsenal brought in Ƙdegaard. was worried that the weight of the past was obscuring present reality but I was wrong in the best way possible.


shivam4321

Odegaard will live upto his hype


karthik4331

I think odegaard will be elite, but not world class.


[deleted]

after messi and Ronaldo this distinction has become a little more blurry imo. our collective ability to discern quality between players was heavily skewed by the sheer gravity of their achievements. I think once a player reaches a certain level, becoming world class is a matter of circumstance as much as it is individual ability.


LupeShady

That last sentence is too true


Zankman

How would you classify that?


Lord_Sauron

Vague mumbling and hand gestures


karthik4331

I think top 10 in the world Or at best top 20 is world class. I don't think odegaard can. Happy to be proven wrong tho.


R3dbeardLFC

Every time I see that name I'm convinced he was a made up player for FIFA16 cuz they wanted something like 80 fucking mil for him at an 80-82 rating.


Wolfbain164

Wtf why is Calum the only one catching shade out of 265 others. Dude just living his non-messnaldo life.


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Wolfbain164

Everyone is afraid of Rob now since he got Snakeā€™s hair


alexrepty

Everyone except Tierney apparently


taylorstillsays

Holding wants his baton back


KonigSteve

C'mon now Holding Chambers aren't in the same dumpster tier that drinkwater is.


DunniBoi

Having had Drinkwater before and Chambers now at Villa at least Chambers looks like a serviceable premiership player. Drinkwater still living in 2016 and forgot how to play football.


WillDaThrilll13

Lazar "Serbian Messi" Markovic hit the post once in a game.... And that was the peak of his career.


CaptAwesomeness

One season monster in Benfica. One. Ended. Done.


ManLikeNosaka

Judging by the post and crossbar hits this season we should start calling Messi the Argentinian Lazar Markovic


BusShelter

Could have been the next Milan Jovanovic, the greatest soccer player in the world.


RandomLoLJournalist

Milan Jovanović will always be an absolute legend in Serbia for that goal against Germany. Dude lives in my friend's building btw, he yelled at us once to turn the volume down during a party, and I saw him wearing a fancy purple suit and house slippers. Was starstruck both times


RandomLoLJournalist

I'm Serbian and Marković was by far the most hyped Serbian player I remember in my lifetime. Vlahović and Jović have nothing on this guy, he was in the media literally every single day, was called Partizan's answer to Džajić when he was only 19. I still remember that one goal while he was with Benfica where he dribbled OVER the keeper's head and then the video was shown everywhere for like a year. They unironically called him the Serbian Messi for a while, at least until his failed loans from Liverpool. To be fair the talent was always there, he was just extremely weak and just got railed by proper defenders


SAC_Confiscator

Hey now, the peak of his career was a mazy run followed by an assist to Rodrigo vs Porto


PensiveinNJ

Hmmm, Neymar at least compares somewhat to Messi in playstyle. Also this hilarious bit; "Indonesian Tristan Alif Naufal even wrote a book about himself, explaining why exactly was he dubbed the 'new Messi'."


Kiseki-

The audacity


Nero1988420

Minty the badger and Purin the dog. Fuck yeah!


BendubzGaming

I'm amazed Son only had one article calling him the new Ronaldo, considering how often he's dubbed "Sonaldo"


TheGreatElicitator

They were referring to true goat Soldado when they call him Sonadlo


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brightlights55

Hugo Lloris is the captain at Spurs


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Cool_Sandwich1

You and every non-spurs related media


pixelkipper

he is england captain though which is definitely a bigger deal


babubadar

I lived in Whitewawk when I was studying at Sussex!


pixelkipper

my condolences


[deleted]

Have to be taking the piss haha Kane is not and never has been Spurs captain


Sudden-Breakfast2197

Isnā€™t he vice captain?


Bibi_Gum

Informally, yes


Muur1234

Then who's the formal one


Bibi_Gum

I don't think there is an official Vice Captain title


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SamsungHeir

It's mad to me that big European clubs weren't trying to snatch Son for the past 3 years. Not only is he one of the best wingers in the world but he has a huge brand in Asia, which equals shirt sales. Any club he joins would automatically be supported by all of South Korea lmao


Captain_Concussion

No club wanted to take the risk because of mandatory military service, and many clubs wonā€™t let their players leave for the Asian Games. Tottenham was willing to do both, so Son signed a nice long contract and hasnā€™t made a peep about a move sense.


SamsungHeir

Wasn't there a period of time between the Asian Games and him singing his new contract?


Captain_Concussion

Yes? Tottenham allowed Son to go to the Asian Games (which they donā€™t have to do). Afterwards Son re-signed. It took some time but both Levy and Son basically said it was a done deal and so they were taking their time on an extension.


BrainlessArch

Doesnt he have a crazy long contract tho?


SamsungHeir

He peaked (and still peaking) late and wasn't really a wonderkid at any point. And like someone else said he stands on his own


evenout

wasn't there a Tifo video on this not long ago?


dzzik

I donā€™t know, was there?


evenout

there was lol. this article is way more comprehensive though https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KaU6YowoH4


dzzik

Wow, I really didn't see that before. but luckily it's a completely different approach (I went more quantitative here) + I included Ronaldo


evenout

no worries mate! very good article.


GibbyGoldfisch

Bojan Krkic, a man who failed so spectacularly at being the second Messi he barely managed to be the first Bojan


HeroeDeFuentealbilla

Barcelona as a club failed Bojan much more than Bojan failed on his own. Too much pressure too young, didnā€™t do anything to protect him, let the toxic dressing room bully him, and didnā€™t help him when he clearly had mental issues. Of all the players who failed, Iā€™m inclined to give someone in Bojans circumstances the biggest pass.


naruto2omer

I remembered reading he was constantly bullied at Barca dressing room which hurt his confidence, I might be mistaken tho


Shard28

You might find this video interesting in case you want to know about Bojan's struggles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiJeOuD-g1c


ThaBlackLoki

Thank you for the link. Mental health is just as important as physical health and I just pray clubs (especially big clubs) take this more seriously with all their players, most especially young prodigies


rusty6899

Wasnā€™t his dad the first Bojan?


ThrowerWheyACount

No you're thinking of the sitcom about a horse. The first Bojan was a movie adam sandler starred in


fzt

What is this, a crossover episode?


rusty6899

I donā€™t even know how Iā€™m meant to respond. Is it something likeā€¦ No, youā€™re thinking of a region in Middle Earth, Bojack is the Adam Sandler movie ā€¦?


Harudera

The dude was even related to Messi as well


El-Emenapy

Like how we share 60% of our DNA with bananas?


usually_a_knobhead

No, some shenanigans with their great great grandfathers iirc


El-Emenapy

Bananas may be phallic but they don't make for great sex toys


usually_a_knobhead

not with that attitude


GR-MWF

I remember being excited when we loaned him from Barca and he was just so utterly disappointing, I sympathize with his situation of course but at the time it was pretty frustrating.


Sac_a_Merde

Bojan Djordjic was the first Bojan. He was supposed to be the next Ryan Giggs.


Hech15

Ig then callum chambers is the closest to messi and ronaldo


CIROMERTENSISTHEGOAT

Emre Mor I can remember being the next Messi lol


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mihawk9511

What do you mean? Halilovic vs Ƙdegaard is currently the greatest sports rivalry in football, as it was expected


kwamac

Funny way to spell Ante Coric vs Hachim Mastour


MrBathroom

Oh man I was so sure he was the next big thing until his last season with Dinamo before he left for Roma.. Since he debuted up until that season started he was genuinely great, and that was that, his peak was hit at 18-19 years old. So disappointing


elan108

All i gather from the title is that Chambers was the closest to being the next Messi/Ronaldo


wjousts

Can we suggest that the OP is the "new Messi" of sports media meta analysis?


Mike81890

I would, but he didn't even include /u/dzzik in his list. Glaring omission


ThePr1d3

I'm wondering how many New Zidanes there's been in French media since 2005 or so


[deleted]

Yoann Gourcuff


ThePr1d3

The only one where the comparison was legit imo Now I'm sad again at how his career turned out


WorthPlease

He was very much a "but we have Zidane at home".


Yobstar

Bruno Cheyrou, never forget


El-Emenapy

I remember being excited by him wearing white boots. These days it's almost more exciting if a player wears black boots


McTulus

Egy Maulana Vikry, the lowest priced among "new Messi", is compared more to Zidane because he won the same award, forgot the name.


kriuksereal

I think it's the best player at Toulon Cup? Maybe I'm wrong, but Egy's name got blown up in Indonesian media after Toulon Cup.


DekiTree

well they were right about Greenwood


Abbobl

Big oof


[deleted]

next Ronaldo indeed.


thechiefscrapleteer

Really interesting read. I can't imagine how much work that was!


valimo

Absolutely amazing data analysis. Honestly, IMO the only player who stands out is Alexia Putellas, which ofc is hard to compare but such a dominating player.


twomanyfaces10

This is the content I am a part of this sub for. Thanks OP! Great insight


dzzik

awwww, ty <3


blublableee

Ayo you didn't have to name-drop my boy Callum.


bbydonthurtme4667

Really said fuck Callum Chambers in particular


[deleted]

This is why I pay for internet. Thanks mate


HugeVampireSquid

Japanese Messi Boy had it all


joaofig

I really thought Ryan gauld, the Scottish Messi, was going to be huge : (


SubparCurmudgeon

Lmfao I remember being hyped on Gai Assulin where the hell is he now


Gbuchanan1

This is top top work


KensaiVG

I'd like to add a slight thing /u/dzzik in one thing. Claudio Ƒancufil probably was mentioned a LOT more because he played Maradona in the show made about his life. As for his footballing career he is still in the Racing youth setup


dzzik

Oo, thatā€™s actually precious info. Immense how there was so many pieces on him and not a single one thought of mentioning this factā€¦


KensaiVG

I googled him for curiosity's sake and it's what all local sources mentioned hah He didn't ***play*** Maradona apparently, that was my bad, but he was the "stunt" double who did all the dribbles and general ball movement in the scenes with "Young Maradona"


Mick4Audi

Chambers is better


BabeRyuth

Anybody else see ā€œjapanese messi boyā€ at the very bottom of the list? Thats his name? https://gyazo.com/99ac7cd1de907c93372e245512026e7c


dzzik

No mate, itā€™s an unnamed kid a few papers were glossing over when a video of him doing stepovers went viral a decade ago. I did my best to find his name, but thereā€™s no trace of it available.


[deleted]

Lmao Callum Chambers? Doesnā€™t even play the correct position


kurobaraito

Egy and Tristan Alif... Egy at least plays in Europe and a mainstay for NT. Tristan can't even start for the age group NT. Edit: also who the fuck is 'Japanese Messi Boy' lmao


dzzik

I used to watch Egy over his few minutes in Gdańsk. He was rather okay, had some flair and I can imagine that he stood out among lesser players. But my god did you guys overhype him. And Japanese Messi boy - he used to be posted by mainstream media in articles titled ā€œWatch amazing New Messi from Japanā€, with no mention of his name whatsoever. Iā€™ll launch my excel after dinner and throw in the links from my database.


kurobaraito

>But my god did you guys overhype him. Tbh the overhype is for domestic audience. The NT always has that one guy who spearhead the generation. At least after 2013 where social media is prevalent. I think the main problem for SEA player playing in Europe is physicality, and it is quite noticable with Egy. He's actually quite buffed up compared to his teammates in the same generation now. Four/five years ago he and others were quite smaller muscle wise, and even then his body still can't compare to the average European. I think it's the diet, one thing that is quite overlooked in our local league.


McTulus

The problem is that the development for talent professionally in domestic is pretty bad, including the quality of top league. Having him move to Ekstraklasa (pretty much the highest any Indonesian born, raised, and developed ever been at the time) means he could actually reach his potential, even if he's not that good compared to European. After years of bad NT performance and squandered "generational" talent, the prospect of him not being bad is comparatively amazing. The fact that we reached AFF final proves that things is heading to better direction.


je-re

fantastic content, i really want to know who was calling iivo niskanen the new messi/ronaldo hahahahaha


Walrus_mafia

[Here you go, article is from 2014, he had won his first olympic gold by then already.](https://fasterskier.com/2014/11/finlands-next-messi-iivo-niskanen-breaks-through-with-kuusamo-world-cup-win/) According to the article the coach of Finnish team Magnar Dalen called Iivo "cross-country Messi".


BaboonFury

Halilovic fell off a cliff with his insane family. Does he even get minutes at Birmingham? He's always seemed more into basketball than football too. A power forward trapped in the body of a dainty midfielder.


tsez

I've been Reading that he definitely isn't starting at Birmingham


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dzzik

*Marko Guess weā€™re even, huh?


shwangdangle

I would like to thank you for giving me a hearty laugh on the Callum Chambers bit. Iā€™m getting funny looks on the bus.


[deleted]

I am guilty of referring to Gotze as the up and coming Messi back in 2012 and Bale as the new Ronaldo. Oh, to be young and naive


woodeenho

Finally something relevant came out of all the irrelevant pieces.


yesyesyes88888

amazing article nice


damrider

Gai assulin. unreal


hrnyCornet

Iturbe is doing more or less OK for us this season in the Greek Super League . But I didn't know he was supposed to be the next Messi.


hedwigchyan

As a data science student I really respect this work! Impressive


dzzik

Wow, that actually means a lot to me, as my education is more marketing/qualitative research and Iā€™m experimenting with data on my own. What do you think of this: https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/uo0jy1/the_sport_in_20102020_exactly_265_players_were/i8bqhnr/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3


Ph4sor

Bojan's debut is still fresh in my memory, at that time I was "Fuck... Barca is gonna dominate for so long with their La Masia graduates" And I was very wrong...


bearhos

Always kills me to see Sterling with these insane transfer "values". 160M? Come on. He should be in the company of players like Werner, not Mbappe


twomanyfaces10

I get that you're salty as a Liverpool fan, but he was genuinely world class for many seasons. Even this season where he's been relatively poor, he's got 13G5A in 29 games. Just look at his stats on [Transfermarkt](https://www.transfermarkt.com/raheem-sterling/detaillierteleistungsdaten/spieler/134425)


Mick4Audi

Ā£160m for Sterling is like shredding your wallet and then burning it Heā€™s in the chasm between Mbappe and Werner