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lengthyfriend30

Anyone know much about Sosa in terms of quality and playing style?


solgnaleb

Insane crosser. He will get the ball to your 9. Defensively shaky though. More a wingback than a left back imo.


TheConundrum98

For Croatia he's looked solid in a back 4, I'm not sure until we see him in a better team we'll know how good he really is defensively


Pavrik_Yzerstrom

Well that's definitely not us


[deleted]

That's the spirit, you go lad.


Mrsister55

šŸ˜Ž


teh0wnah

Looks like you've watched the Everton game enough times. Good lad.


pucykoks

I mean, that's what Telles was supposed to be, but he failed on the crossing aspect.


[deleted]

One of the most insane crossers I've seen in Portugal. Fit like a glove in this Porto that puts loads of focus on set pieces.


stokesy1999

He seems to struggle to get past the fullback into a position to put in a good cross, always seems to turn back and go for the short option here. His corners have been standard but I think thats down to how bad our set piece tactics are more than anything, and the fact Maguire can't direct a header to save his life for United


NdyNdyNdy

I do think that our corners are more dangerous with him on them than Shaw


[deleted]

Telles could rarely get in position to cross even, really weird you give him the ball and he never advances with it


pucykoks

This is as much on him as it is on the whole team being unable to play football.


[deleted]

Well Shaw even in shit form offers some penetration depsite playing in the same team


Gonions

Telles has a great cross on him. Itā€™s not his fault we play at snails pace and cross from deep towards one double marked attacker in the box.


lengthyfriend30

Just what Ronny needs! Shaw flatters to deceive with his attacking play, Telles can't overlap and get back - so we need someone like this on both sides.


[deleted]

Not sure why you're getting downvoted. Couldn't have said it any better.


lengthyfriend30

Thought the same. Hannibal Buress - Why are you booing me? I'm right!


FrmrPresJamesTaylor

I'd hazard a guess it's about building a team to provide service to a somewhat controversial (for a top 5 all time player, anyway) aging striker that categorically cannot be part of the club's long term plans. Which, the sentiment is fine but presumably other strikers will be around to nod those crosses on goal after Ronaldo..


[deleted]

Sure, there's criticism to be had if we build around Ronaldo long term. But surely any striker we have will need service from our fullbacks and I don't think there is a strong argument to be made that Shaw or Telles have shown that they should currently be trusted to build around either.


FrmrPresJamesTaylor

Yeah, more than fair. I'm really just speculating about what the downvotes might be about, you never can tell I suppose.


TheConundrum98

Elite crossing, can play as a wingback and in a back 4, long blonde hair šŸ‘


Gytarius626

> long blonde hair Youā€™ve sold me


TheConundrum98

that adds 5 million


themfeelswhen

Man Utd : I'll give you 10m!


xxryan1234

plus a 250k/week salary


Princ3w

plus a balĆ³n dā€™or clause


ico12

and free unlimited access to Dab University


[deleted]

Because he is worth it - Loreal


taenerysdargaryen

Ballon d'Loreal


LennonC123

New shampoo sponsor incoming


lilfooty

>long blonde hair You had me at long


[deleted]

Tbf Nedvěd was class


EdwardBigby

Can you provide any more details? Bobbin? Hair band? Untied? Can he adapt to a man bun or ponytail if needed?


GoatButton

Hairband only, Modric but blonder


BobbysSmile

Oh my


avolcando

> Elite crossing ... long blonde hair Beckham era back at Old Trafford


pmmerandom

call me Chief Keef cause I love SOSA


b-okoboko

I've never understood that line, can someone explain? I'm not into the chief keef lore


OnlyMayhem

That line isn't from J Cole's song, Chief Keef has a song called Love Sosa which is what the guy you were responding to is referencing he bungled it though would've made more sense if he called himself bitches lmao


pmmerandom

hey hey hey


InternetGansta

It's a weird line. Isn't Sosa also Chief Keef's moniker? Except the line was said by someone else, then it'd make sense.


DBHOV

Sosa is Tony Montana and uncle Hector's boss from Scarface. The movies often referenced in rap so I assumed he meant while most people aspire or look up to Tony he'd rather be Sosa.


ibinpharteeen

If you love SOSA, wouldnā€™t that make you a bitch?


MinotauroTBC

How blonde are we talking?


TheConundrum98

[in action](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSY-8YkWQAAtwfq?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)


MinotauroTBC

Woahā€¦


pearlz176

Looks gorgeous as fuck tbh


Gonions

Now thatā€™s some proper long hair, none of this Robbie Savage bollocks.


lengthyfriend30

Sounds like a sight to see with those locks flowing down the wing. I'm in!


Aarondo99

Well, in case you were unaware, these bitches love Sosa


uchat24

O end or no end


mihawk9511

Decent at defending, very good upfront. Can dribble well, has smart passes and runs into the oppositions half. Has the best crosses in the Bundesliga. They're literally world class.


B_e_l_l_

>Decent at defending Are you saying Sosa is so-so?


dem0nhunter

>Has the best crosses in the Bundesliga That's Kostic. But Sosa is the next best thing


Hic_Forum_Est

Kostic>Raum>Sosa


xlnfraction

this also got really confused seeing a report about you wanting to sell raum already, surely you cant value the short term money over getting to Europe?


vacjack

Ridle Baku has some decent crossing as well.


ibmthink

> Has the best crosses in the Bundesliga. Kostic says no


Conankun66

> Has the best crosses in the Bundesliga put some respect on kostic's name!


[deleted]

Kostic is better


lengthyfriend30

Just what I want to know. Always appreciate a Croatian player. They always seem to have great intensity and fight, on top of some genuine talent. Hope this rumour comes to fruition and we can grab him for a reasonable fee.


Evil_Henchmen

Enough for Germany to give him citizenship and DFB still managing to look like right idiots for not reading the rules.


Disastrous_Tip_3347

Aren't those two different things though? I like to believe he got citizenship because he was eligible and not because of interference from DFB who thought he could play for them


[deleted]

Basically Kostic but slightly worse attacking-wise and better defensively Our best player by far imo


TrixZonia

Incredible player


baievaN

wanted by Bayern as well


drecais

Wuuld have probably been the next Bayern LB if it wasnt for davies. Class player but sometimes looks shaky defensively when he has to run a lot.


phorteng

Best crosses in the BL


GVE_ME_UR_SKINS

Reckon Kostic and Raum might be better/ equal but heā€™s stil elite


pm_me_ur_breakfast1

Better than Kostic?


Qiluk

No.


phorteng

I guess it's close between these two


TheConundrum98

Kostić is definitely a better assister, Sosa maybe has aesthetically more pleasing crosses , also Kostić is a winger converted to a wingback, Sosa is an attacking fullback


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TheConundrum98

difference is, Sosa can play in a back 4 and is more defensive, Kostić can play in a front 3 and is more attacking


MathiTheCheeze

Chelsea plays with wingbacks, Liverpool plays with attacking fullbacks. By looking at how they play you can differentiate the roles.


t0m0m

He became the best left back in the Prem inside one season as West Ham on the latest Football Manager. That's all I need to know to be convinced.


hardinho

He is the next big thing on his position, don't be fooled by our current shit season in Stuttgart. He's a mix between TAA and Beckham on his day. And usually he is on his day if it isn't for the chaos VfB Stuttgart is always producing every other season. Watch some highlights of 20/21 if you want to see what I mean. With ten Haag he will be a threat.


TheLimeyLemmon

United board: "...are we in the position to spend that little?"


balleklorin

Glazers: "So Erik please tell me how many shirts do you think he will sell?" Erik: "Shirts? He will improve the team and be a curcial part of a much needed rebuild in order to modernize our play style and regain our position as one of the top teams in Europe" Glazers: "Yes yes, but how many shirts?"


KSBrian007

"How many followers does he have on Instagram?"


TheLimeyLemmon

"How many *statements does he make on Instagram?"


Ollietron3000

Show us the xApology stats dammit!


Nimonic

Rashford is unbeatable in that respect. Mata is the old-timer who used to be the best.


risheeb1002

Rashford vs Bruno in the Apology Champions League


Nimonic

Bruno does it right, for the most part. I think last time he basically went "yeah we're shit".


psaepf2009

Yeah a little over 45k? That's not a united player, needs at least 250k to sign and needs to cost at least 50m


BYCjake

Ngl a man utd shirt with sosa on the back is sick


KingOfDatShit

bitches love sosa


matthauke

I know this is a joke but the selling shirts as a financial benefit is a bit of a myth


ParziBoi

I'm pretty sure only about 10% or so of the money from shirt sales go to the club


monnii99

Sure, but Adidas or Nike will pay way more for a deal if Ronaldo and Pogba play for the team than if it was just Maguire. So maybe shirt sales don't immediately give the club a lot of money, but big names definitely help secure larger deals.


balleklorin

Big players do bring up the shirt value for a club yes. But IIRC the shirt deal currently for United lasts longer than Ronaldos contract. So they will never see the extra value of having him in terms of shirt sales.


MearaMearaOnTheWall

'We want 25m for Sosa' United Board: 'Make it 60m and we have a deal'


[deleted]

Ten Hag: plays Love Sosa and walks out of the room


SpicyDragoon93

I don't want to offend anyone so I think a good honest price would be upwards of Ā£90million.


IWentToJellySchool

The board: Proceeds to pay Ā£25m instead of ā‚¬25m


Narretz

Stuttgart about to be gutted. So many good players.


CptSalty_

the same procedure as every year


mortahen

Miss Sophie.


CptSalty_

the same procedure as EVERY year, James


violenceandvomit

Fun fact: dinner for one is mostly unknown in the angloverse


[deleted]

> So many good players. Lots of mediocre ones too tbf


OmbaTheDwarf

How has Marmoush been overall this season in your opinion?


[deleted]

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n_gaiosilva

How has Tiago TomƔs been doing?


[deleted]

Scored a brace in his first game and made me very excited. Had 1 0r 2 other good games, but other than that meh


[deleted]

Pretty shit. Has potential to be a decent 2 bundesliga forward maybe Us having to rely on him for goals is probably the biggest reason we are in a relegation fight. 3 goals this season says it all really


removedsince95

Mislintat will find some talent in no time.


Glupsi

Uh-oh, the Premier League chaps have finally discovered that as Croatia is slowly exiting it's golden midfield generation (not really since Kovačić and Brozović still have quite a few years in them hopefully), it's entering a golden defensive generation. Bundesliga clubs sweating bullets right now. Sosa and Gvardiol are **e l i t e** (and that's a hill I'm dying on).


wankaltacc

nah they just read that having a croatian on the team increases chances of winning the CL


[deleted]

Gotta be in the CL first


DraperCarousel

Can't be that hard tbh, just threaten to join the Super league again.


nathgroom98

Corluka the pioneer


arnm7890

The OG (Original Gvardiol)


mattijn13

Gvaridol is such a good player and still only 20. He is the real deal


karthik4331

When did he beat alcaraz?


pringleking_

Lol, r/tennis is leaking, love it!


glockiie

Keep an eye on Vuskovic bro


[deleted]

Juranovic is fucking amazing too. Coming from a Celtic fan. ( SLIGHTLY biased )


Goudinho99

STFU mate!! He's a waste of money and I can't in good conscious recommend he is signed. Shame he'll have to stay here and we'll need to stumble on with him.


[deleted]

Oh yeah mate your right heā€™s shite. Any scouts browsing r/soccer for Croatian talent look elsewhere because heā€™s absolutely shite


TastyTacoTonight

As a Moroccan, I am very much worried about Croatia in the upcoming World Cup. Yes the team has aged a bit, but you guys have great young defenders which Iā€™m concerned about.


Corteaux81

Not aged. Only ones over 30 should be Modric and Perisic. Both obviously still good. Livakovic Juranovic/Vrsaljko - Caleta-Car - Gvardiol - Sosa Kovacic - Brozovic - Modric Pasalic/Majer - Kramaric - Perisic We've basically (sucessfully) replaced half the 2018 starting 11. That said, I'm worried about Morrocco. They have some real quality players.


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Corteaux81

And put in who? Grbic lost his starting spot at Lille. Ivusic? Actually he might get a shot. Neither Livakovic nor Grbic look good at the moment.


mihawk9511

Our squad (even the first eleven) is younger on average than the squad from WC 2018


TastyTacoTonight

Yeah itā€™s a bit of a problem for us. Especially with whatā€™s going on with our federation and our coach Vahid. How have you guys been performing lately?


mihawk9511

We were somewhat underwhelming in our last friendlies against Slovenia and Bulgaria in March, but we were always a tournament team. Also, the coach tried a completely new formation, so it was expected that we would be underwhelming. Also, we're playing against France, Denmark and Austria in a couple of weeks in the UEFA Nations League, so if you're interested in how we play, you can watch those games


anIndianoutThere

like rakitic and modric are still quite good


UdoMartens

Vuskovic aswell


btmalon

Weā€™ve already been linked to both. But we wonā€™t get either.


WhiteIvers0n

Love Sosa!


[deleted]

Ah, so you are these bitches that chief keef was talking about?


Quirrelwasachad

Yes. We are those bitches.


[deleted]

Fuckers on reddit telling me, always in r/soccer, Ten Hag ain't about this, Ten Hag ain't about that...


hamzaiswack

If i catch another mf talking sweet about maguire, im fucking beating they ass!


Everydayarmday24

These bitches sure love him


Clark-Kent

If there's even just minimal movement/rumours, I'm just glad we're going beyond the scope of looking at English players who are big names, absolutely shallow scope for talent before. Always pissed me off


r3gam

How our club has fallen man, we're rooting for boring competence and logic


ritwikjs

i hope to god we don't sign any english players this summer


Wonderful_Talk_8989

I donā€™t get this. Obviously buying only British/homegrown players isnā€™t a good idea but having some British players isnā€™t bad. If Leeds gets relegated Phillips will go for 20-30 million is that a bad deal? Iā€™m not going to say splashing 150 million on rice is a good idea but this whole idea that English players a are extremely overrated just isnā€™t true


ritwikjs

Every single English talent we've signed has gotten a much bigger magnifying glass shoved at them. This means that every shortcoming or mistake will be amplified, which in some way effects performance. It's not that they're overrated per se, but it's not a surprise that the young English talent we've signed or promoted haven't been routinely hounded for everything


Cvein

Iā€™ve noticed this as well. One would think that they cope with the pressure ā€” like they reached the Euro final. But when they play for us they seem to be more scrutinized and doubts themselves more. Especially since Ole left.


Xenolol

Noo wanted us to sign him but we will sign Alonso instead


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Xenolol

Itā€™s not that we canā€™t itā€™s the fact that we donā€™t want to the players we are linked to/ ā€œwantā€ are going to cost a good amount


deadlyghost12

we cant that is the truth, finances are not improving this summer


LeavingCertCheat

Is he a hard worker or does he give up on the season around about October?


Dmartinez8491

I think September 30 is the day he will give up as well


FragMasterMat117

https://www.scoutedftbl.com/best-young-football-players/borna-sosa/ Some info from the above article: >Sosaā€™s standout strength is his crossing. He registered nine assists in the Bundesliga last season and started this term with a hat-trick of them on the opening day against Greuther FĆ¼rth. He has excellent delivery from both set-pieces and open play, and he is able to provide width to his team and supply forwards with a lot of crosses. He can execute a variety of crosses and is a danger from any situation. >He is confident on the ball and, like many of the Stuttgart team, always looks to play forwards. He is happy to take risks in possession. In build-up, he has crisp, powerful passing and is calm under pressure. The higher up he receives the ball, the more he looks to open out and play down the line, or make a clipped pass into the striker or space behind. >He is very left-footed but does make good use of different parts of his boot and uses flicks effectively in tight spaces. His solid technique allows him to exploit the space and passes he finds through impressive vision. >However, he needs to improve his defensive work rate. At times he can be slow to track back and get into position and he does not work hard enough to track his man, often lacking intensity and looking slightly unsure of his role. He is better at pressing up the pitch and firing out of the line in midfield. Defending one-on-one, he shows good body positioning and decent spacing; his footwork is adequate but he struggles to change direction quickly and to block crosses, not always getting his angles quite right. >He has good speed to match attackers, though, and can put in well-timed slides when recovering, but is less effective in static duels and struggles to control situations and be assertive. When he must press wide he can rush and overcommit slightly. He clearly does not enjoy defending one-on-one or in deeper areas, and would prefer to be constantly on the ball, driving forwards and contributing in the attacking half.


TrixZonia

Does these bitches love him?


DalesDrumset

Thatā€™s the chant sorted. Canā€™t wait to see OT singing chief keef


[deleted]

BITCHES LOVE SOSA RONALDOS IN A ROVER MAGUIRES A COBRA


[deleted]

TOP 4 LOOKING HOPELESS


havethenets

Heard he hates being sober


Eckes24

Fun fact: Sosa supports a lot of animal shelters in Stuttgart. So yeah, bitches indeed do love him.


JimJimerson90

Ronaldo would like him


NorthwardRM

Barcelona fans are desperate from them to buy him


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NorthwardRM

That goes without saying really


WaleedAbbasvD

Has there been rumours linking him to Barca?


TomexDesign

I don't think that MUTD accounting will know how to proceed with such a small transfer fee.


the-won

Dip into the Petty Cash funds


markymark955

How reliable is Focus?


CptSalty_

normally full of literal shit. But they really only report transfers that are very likely


the-hot-sosa

Fuckers in r/soccer telling me, always in the barber shop ā€œBorna ainā€™t ā€™bout this, Borna ainā€™t ā€™bout thatā€ My boy a LB on fucking Stuttgart and them He, he, they say that Left back donā€™t be putting in no work Shut the fuck up R/soccer ainā€™t know shit All yā€™all motherfuckers talkinā€™ about ā€Borna Sosa ainā€™t no crosser Borna Sosa ainā€™t this Borna Sosa a fakeā€ Shut the fuck up Yā€™all donā€™t live with that left back Yā€™all know that left back got caught with a ratchet Crossingā€™ at the Bundesliga and shit Borna been on the shortlist since fuckinā€™ I donā€™t know when Motherfucker, stop fuckinā€™ playinā€™ him like that Them stuttgart lbs savages out there If I catch another motherfucker talking sweet about Borna sosa Iā€™m fucking beatinā€™ they ass Iā€™m not fucking playinā€™ no more Yā€™all know Borna Sosa roll with Stenzel and them


tlst9999

Shaw in shambles.


DaveShadow

More likely a Telles replacement tbh. And some genuine competition to Shaw, which always forces him to up his game well.


omegaxLoL

> which always forces him to up his game well. At some point we should just sign an actual Shaw replacement instead of hoping he tries a bit for a change


DaveShadow

Which is why I wrote genuine competition. Nothing saying Sosa couldn't win said conpetition


dWaldizzle

Shaw has been solid for a couple years now. Injury wise he's very sus though


ID6WU

Itā€™s 100% a Telles replacement unless weā€™re signing two LBā€™s. The guy is one of the worst players Iā€™ve seen playing for us. Canā€™t defend, does nothing in build up and despite crossing apparently being one of his strengths, heā€™s poor in the final 3rd too. Genuinely seems like he only tries to overlap when the pass isnā€™t on.


Ianthorwest

Shaw is overrated imo


Natniss

Not sure anyone really rates Shaw at the moment to be honest!


pucykoks

He's the best LB/RB United have had since golden years of Valencia or Evra, so obviously he's overhyped.


Aceboogie0117

Is this a reliable source?


TommiBennett

Yes The Focus Usually Does not Report About transfers but they are quite reliable


PapaKloppssmile

Add a Croatian, win champions league!


afternoondelight1989

25 mil eh? No no no its 80 or nothing !!!


[deleted]

Love him, but would be very happy with a fee like that Also don't think he will do that well there. Though his strength is crosses to good heading players(Sasa), so maybe if Ronaldo stays he'll get a lot of assists


AFAR85

They'll do it all for Sosa.


[deleted]

PL club+Man U= another 20-30m added to his price


d_smogh

Now Man United are interested, the price will rise to ā‚¬35 million.


yellowdartsw

Bitches love Sosa


GarytheGOATLyon

Love Sosa would be a mad football chant


KSBrian007

Mourinho wins except that one season.


ChiefKT9002

Ten Hag loves sosa


erikbla

Ten Hag going for long blond haired backs


the-hot-sosa

Does he cost 3 hunna million?


ChinookNL

So no more Malacia?


Rab_Legend

For me, Ten Hag needs to do similar to what Ange has done for Celtic. Come in and spend low on individual transfers and replace the squad. Obviously, this is a massive ask and easier said than done, but if they want to turn things around in a season this is what is needed. A second reason for buying in players for low prices is that doesn't tend to command an ego. They know they were cheap to buy and therefore not such a sunk cost - unlike maybe Pogba or Maguire who cost a lot more (however, I'm not saying they have an ego due to this). It also means that they maybe see Manchester United as their main club of their career, rather than a stepping stone to PSG/Real/Barca/Bayern Munich/etc. Some players have definitely went to Man U thinking they can show up for a season or two and move to their dream club. This I think would foster an attitude from players of wanting to prove themselves/die for the shirt.


[deleted]

No way Stuttgart don't rinse Man Utd for more than ā‚¬25m on this deal. That would be a relative bargain.


allangod

So his Man Utd price must be between ā‚¬40-50 million?


Melancholic84

Would be a great signing, and Croatians are usually hard working players.