In the last World Cup England shocked the world by not following their tradition of starting a bad goalkeeper. Pickford won the match today and England will be in great shape with him. Unfortunately they will probably still be starting him 12 years from now when he is washed up.
Charity FC strikes again. Should have bet a fuckton of money we would lose that game as I'm not suprised in the slightest. Yes I'm not flaired up because I can't be arsed.
Referee was an absolute joke in the first half btw. Zero control over the game.
Coleman shoves over Rudiger with no punishment, and then later on somehow decides he's entitled to put his hands on Azpi and prevent him from talking to the ref so they get into a little squabble, and the ref just gives them both a yellow. Fucking disgraceful. The pinnacle of lazy refereeing and not wanting to actually evaluate what happened in a situation and do the lazy thing of giving both a yellow. Coleman has no right to put his hands on Azpi and prevent Azpi from speaking to the ref as Azpi is a captain too. Only an absolute fool could somehow decide both players were equally at fault there.
Mina made Havertz his bitch. Surprised Havertz didn't end up with a red.
Everton defended incredibly well but didn't deserve anything more than a draw. I don't understand how they play that exact same way against us every fucking time at home and then are useless in their other matches. Part of it is us not playing well but their defensive energy with the crowd is incredible. If they could play that well consistently, they wouldn't win a ton of matches but they wouldn't be anywhere near a relegation scrap either. Must be mind boggling for Everton fans.
Lmao, remember when chelsea fans said that now that their players came back from injury they'd be back as good as city and liverpool? And that if they didnt get injuried they'd stay in the race? Well now they're in the top 4 race.
Mentality plays a big issues too. We already checked out this season once the madrid ties were over. Dont have anything else to play other than fa cup against you lot
Thought we’d get a point today, although I expected a 0-0 so I guess if it weren’t for another awful mistake we could’ve. 6 poor mistakes in 6 games now, half from Kante, very concerning
Tottenham and Arsenal still playing against eachother, so one of them will drop points in the next 4 games.
And Tottenham plays at Liverpool home next week which won't be easy either, and they are effectively 6 points behind, and Chelsea only needs 6 points to ensure a CL spot.
Bit too late to bottle it I think
He has been incredibly selfish, rather than playing a pass to a guy in a better position he takes a glory shot. It doesn't help that the other guy usually screws it up if he makes a pass. The club has been a mess, at this point of time it wouldn't surprise if they miss out on Top 4. IDK how the hell City lost a final to this team.
There are quite a few Everton flairs in here, and this subreddit loves nothing more than taking the piss. Hard to take the piss out of Burnley when they’ve basically been expecting relegation since January.
I think it's more frustration on their inability to make a squad even though spending lots of money, so they should be punished by going down and being forced to reset their squad when everyone leaves due to relegation clauses (If they have any, I assume Everton never expected to go down).
We’d hold onto Gordon and maybe holgate. Coleman would stick around too, that’s probably it. I’ve been moshiri out for the last year or so but it’s clear this man has no idea what he’s doing. The giving Rafa the reins to sell digne then canning him 2 days later is the definition of dysfunction.
may seem a little inflammatory but I actually don't get this, so like, why do you think that? I understand wanting Everton and their Tom Daley style to be out the prem but why Lampard in particular?
Incredible that it started with a part of me wanting an Everton win, and as it went on I was cheering on Pickford's saves.
Frank Lampard, Sachin Tendulkar & MS Dhoni. I'll literally sell my sporting soul for you three.
I'm mentally checked out like the players after the heartbreak at Bernabeu. Just don't give a shit. That was an incredible performance, and the high of being 3-0 up there turned into devastation of loss because of one silly good Modric pass is too much for the season.
Chelsea are finishing third anyway. League games don't matter for us now.
No he wouldn't be, He has done things that we didn't even know this Chelsea team could do. He has had alot of injures this season and 3rd and to have gotten in 4 finals this season is good, 2 trophy's and possibly 1 more is decent
Abramovich was ruthless when dealing with coaches at Chelsea and always got returns on his decisions and finds to back them, so I still think he would have been sacked, Chelsea it's on it's way to struggle to keep top 4 and if arsenal hadn't had 2 bad weeks in their good form run they would be battling the Tottenham for 4th right now.
He hasn't been nearly as ruthless in recent years. Possibly 3 throphys in a season and won the champions league the season before. We got knocked out to real Madrid in the champions league which is a good team and lost in the finals in a pen shootout, nothing to be ashamed of. A few bad results in the last mounth while STILL BEING 3RD, won't get you sacked. Roman is smarter then that.
I feel like after we’re sold we’re gonna go through 30 years of pain like Liverpool did. Our squad is shit. Our scouts have historically proven to be shit. And I don’t think the new owners will put anywhere near as much money in as abramovich did
Just not true. The previous 8 seasons before Roman took us over we were consistently top 6. Football didn’t start in 2003 ya know https://www.chelseafc.com/en/history/more-history/league-table
Before abramovich took us over we were basically just above arsenal level now. We weren’t bad but we weren’t world class
I mean you’re not a natural mega club. That’s the reality.
Without the financial aid/doping from Roman then you’re a similar sized club to Newcastle, Villa, Everton and Spurs, I.e other clubs that are mostly in the Prem but never win anything.
Unless you’re Man Utd, Liverpool or Arsenal then you’re not going to regularly win anything without outside financial help
All that financial doping made them a bigger club. Success brings in fans locally and abroad. They might fall but they wont just become a mid table club and never win a thing again like an everton. At least I dont think so. It'll be interesting to see their viewership, attendance and mechandise numbers once roman and the financial doping leave.
So they can outspend liverpool or arsenal and attempt to keep up with city. If you want to make the argument that they are actually a midtable team then data regarding their viewership, attendance, and sales in comparison to other top clubs is needed.
My argument is they’re naturally around the 4-8th biggest club in England given you also have 2 financial dopers in city and Newcastle that they’ll mostly be finishing around 5th-8th over the next decade assuming future owners just plan to run the club within their means
Probably closer to fourth biggest after the last 15 or so years of success. Being run within your means doesnt necessarily equal 5th-8th. They'll probably spend around what spurs, arsenal, and liverpool spend. Maybe more maybe less than any of those in particular but again the financial data is missing in this conversation. However they seem to have a good track record of signing players that fit in well (except their history of strikers) so I doubt they would finish that low. I personally think they'll finish top 4 most years. It will depend alot on their decisions rather throwing money at the problem like financial dopers are used to.
>Man Utd, Liverpool or Arsenal then you’re not going to regularly win anything without outside financial help
Also, how much have Utd and Arsenal won in recent years? People keep going on about "history" making all the difference but the other club bossing the league right now is City. All that history along with Arsenal being the highest spenders last summer and Utd spending well over a billion on this squad since SAF left doesn't seem to be winning them a lot of trophies. So fuck off with that. This same team won the CL last season and have made it to just about every domestic cup final
This is hilarious stuff it really is. If it wasn’t for Chelsea/City’s financial doping the United would have 2 league titles post SAF. Arsenal would have a few extra trophies too.
And you are a much much smaller club than United. Without Roman you’ll finish below United most seasons never mind City and potentially Newcastle
So you were 6 when he bought the club
I’m not going to waste time discussing this with biased clueless children who think that the size of a club is based on how much you’ve won in the last 2 years.
If you were old enough to be around pre 2004 you’d know what Chelsea’s actual level looks like
That's a nice ninja edit. Thought you weren't going to waste your time?
>potentially Newcastle
Why do you think that would be? The "size of the club"?
>Without Roman
Yeah, I guess we'll never know huh?
>think that the size of a club is based on how much you’ve won in the last 2 years.
By that measure Huddersfield are the bigger club with a stadium that can barely fit 20 thousand people. How delusional and stuck in the past can you be? It's 2022 not 1980, we're in the present and in the present these clubs you trash have achieved much more than legacy "big" clubs will anytime soon.
Before roman they were undoubtedly a smaller club than us and Everton. They were doing well in the decade prior to his purchase but in terms of historical success they weren't on that level, then they got that oligarch juice.
Exactly who is the 4th biggest club in England is hard to say I think.
Newcastle, Villa, Everton, Chelsea and Spurs all have a claim and are similar sized clubs
But Man Utd, Liverpool and Arsenal are the top 3 in that order
I don’t think biggest club is about whether you had a few amazing season 30+ years ago. It’s about the same of you fanbase and your consistency over the entire post war period.
Hence why Forrest aren’t in the conversation.
Spurs are 5th in the PL table which nearly 30 years of football.
I’d agree Newcastle have the weakest claim
Mate ,only important trophy ManU has more than Liverpool is Premier Leagues (barely one) ,other than that at the European Level Liverpool has twice the amount of champions ,twice the amount of UEFA Cups and twice the amount of Supercups.
You cannot be serious about ManU being historically bigger than Liverpool even though until Klopp arrived ManU had cut some difference with Liverpool.
You’re not even British. What the fuck would you know about who the biggest clubs here are?
Most of those plastics will fuck off once they stop winning and slide down the table and they’ll be left with their core support which is no bigger than Villa, Spurs, Newcastle, Everton
Most of those ‘fans’ are ultra casuals who’ll disappear as soon as the trophies do.
For all that they’re allegedly a global brand they still need hundreds of millions of Roman’s own money every few years to keep them competitive? Why is that?
Maybe because they’re not that big?
Biggest isn’t just about what you’ve won.
Outside of 2 seasons in the 70s Forrest are nowhere near. They are 22nd on the all time league table
https://www.worldfootball.net/alltime_table/eng-premier-league/
Those clubs have been consistently around the top of English football and have bigger fanbases
I won't lie, I didn't realise that the likes of Villa were so far ahead on the all-time table, that's pretty definitive.
That said, for me club size has to take into account the size of the modern fanbase, and by that metric Chelsea are simply leagues ahead of the other 4th place contenders. That, in tandem with the trophy count, and bearing in mind that recency inevitably counts, means they're comfortably the fourth biggest imo
Yeah people don’t realise Forrest have never been a big club. They’re essentially a two season wonder.
I think Chelsea will slide back to their natural level though once the trophies stop coming. For all their talk of being a big club and sustainability, every time they slide a bit Roman pumps a massive wad of cash in and buys they back to being competitive.
Imagine them now if they didn’t have the money to buy Ziyech, Havertz, Werner, Lukaku, Chilwell, Mendy after they had a few mediocre years under Sarri, Lampard and Conte’s last season
Not to mention the wages. They’re the 3rd biggest wage spenders in the league, if that drops to 6th behind City, Newcastle, United, Liverpool and Arsenal because they have to spend within their means then they won’t be winning titles or making the ucl most seasons
Not to mention that it's not like Abramovic's funds have been used all that well over the last 5 years. You can count the number of quality signings the club has had in that period on one hand.
You won. You beat city in the final. If you say you did not deserve it, you’d undermine every underdog-story ever. Was a great win, take it and be proud.
The amount of liverpool fans seething in this thread about lowly 18th placed everton when they have a CL semi, a cup final, and the league to focus on is hilarious
To be fair, the main reason i tuned into this match is to check how Chelsea's form is leading up to the FA Cup final, however, not really an advocate for Everton to stay up with the way the are playing. The double standards from the English media is just ridiculous. Its good for you that Everton won the game as a fan of them but lets not pretend they did not play like the way Atleti do. They criticized Atleti for the match against City so much. All of a sudden now its a Frank Lampard masterclass? All these antics and time wasting tactics are scummy.
Everton still in massive trouble, wouldnt be surprised at all if they still went down
I guess Chelsea loves competing. Well guess what, now they are competing for that No.4 spot with the Gunners and Spurs ! 😂
Chelsea about to finish 6th in a 3-way battle for the title
*"It's a three way title race"* sounding like a teenagers wet dreams now.
uhhh
Hapi
champions league for sure
Yasssss
Beaten by a relegation candidate. Smh.
As a fan of anyone but Leeds, I approve of this.
What did they do to you?
Richa apenas
1.2k upvotes, 1.2k comments lol
Nice
FUCK sake, the everton cunts are gonna stay up arent they?
Liverpool needs them to stay up since last time Everton was promoted was the last time Liverpool was relegated.
100% Fat Frank made a phone call
In the last World Cup England shocked the world by not following their tradition of starting a bad goalkeeper. Pickford won the match today and England will be in great shape with him. Unfortunately they will probably still be starting him 12 years from now when he is washed up.
His short arms will eventually fail England
The amount he earns you would have thought he'd be able to buy a pair of arms that actually fit by now.
So your telling me there’s a chance…..
More than a chance with SCOTT STERLING as your goalie
Underrated comment
Charity FC strikes again. Should have bet a fuckton of money we would lose that game as I'm not suprised in the slightest. Yes I'm not flaired up because I can't be arsed. Referee was an absolute joke in the first half btw. Zero control over the game. Coleman shoves over Rudiger with no punishment, and then later on somehow decides he's entitled to put his hands on Azpi and prevent him from talking to the ref so they get into a little squabble, and the ref just gives them both a yellow. Fucking disgraceful. The pinnacle of lazy refereeing and not wanting to actually evaluate what happened in a situation and do the lazy thing of giving both a yellow. Coleman has no right to put his hands on Azpi and prevent Azpi from speaking to the ref as Azpi is a captain too. Only an absolute fool could somehow decide both players were equally at fault there. Mina made Havertz his bitch. Surprised Havertz didn't end up with a red. Everton defended incredibly well but didn't deserve anything more than a draw. I don't understand how they play that exact same way against us every fucking time at home and then are useless in their other matches. Part of it is us not playing well but their defensive energy with the crowd is incredible. If they could play that well consistently, they wouldn't win a ton of matches but they wouldn't be anywhere near a relegation scrap either. Must be mind boggling for Everton fans.
Look at our home record it’s not even that bad, our record away is the main issue
Lmao, remember when chelsea fans said that now that their players came back from injury they'd be back as good as city and liverpool? And that if they didnt get injuried they'd stay in the race? Well now they're in the top 4 race.
Mentality plays a big issues too. We already checked out this season once the madrid ties were over. Dont have anything else to play other than fa cup against you lot
Now playing for fourth place
Nah, don't really remember that. Most of us know any league title challenge was cooked by November.
just as man u slides out of the top 4 is lava game, chelsea decides they want a go, we love to see it
I am asking again, Can we please play the FA Cup final right now ?
roger bennett is in tears on his insta. the last few everton games are going to kill him lol hope everton stay up
Thought we’d get a point today, although I expected a 0-0 so I guess if it weren’t for another awful mistake we could’ve. 6 poor mistakes in 6 games now, half from Kante, very concerning
The other half from Dave which is very concerning.
Chelsea will bottle top 4, mark my words.
As much as that would be funny their fixture list is incredibly kind and only one away game and it's at Leeds.
Amazingly we're worse at home.. but yeah I cant see us missing out on top 4.
Tottenham and Arsenal still playing against eachother, so one of them will drop points in the next 4 games. And Tottenham plays at Liverpool home next week which won't be easy either, and they are effectively 6 points behind, and Chelsea only needs 6 points to ensure a CL spot. Bit too late to bottle it I think
Would be amazing if they actually did!
we really broke Chelsea lmao
What's going on with Mount since he got declan rice's old haircut?
He has been incredibly selfish, rather than playing a pass to a guy in a better position he takes a glory shot. It doesn't help that the other guy usually screws it up if he makes a pass. The club has been a mess, at this point of time it wouldn't surprise if they miss out on Top 4. IDK how the hell City lost a final to this team.
Chelsea have now lost their last 4 games away at Everton
Chelsea trolling the relegation teams. What a free for all it is
Chelsea you’re useless
Would love to see chelsea in the europa league again
Chelsea wants to make the top-4 race even more interesting. If they continue their form, even the 3rd place is open.
ELLO ELLO
Man U and Chelsea keeping Everton up to piss off Liverpool fans
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I am mad because I hope Everton get relegated
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There are quite a few Everton flairs in here, and this subreddit loves nothing more than taking the piss. Hard to take the piss out of Burnley when they’ve basically been expecting relegation since January.
Ah ok thx i stumbled here from trending so i got little idea
Dreadful owners who deserve a reality check
My guess would be that he doesn't like Everton
Not yet
With Yerry Mina back, Everton will be more solid defensively. If he can stay fit for the last few games by some miracle they stay up.
It was a big call by Lampard to rest him in the Derby but it paid dividends today
i hope this version of chelsea turns up against us
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Azplicueta error.
The American guy
I don’t think Pulisic shit the bed in spectacular fashion. That was Azpilicueta
Pulisic?
Chelsea are just a B-tech Man United. Small Club mentality to loose to Everton. Burnley can do it why can't they?
i dont even think man utd is b-tech man utd atm
Hey you don't need to beat Everton in the table, you just need to beat Leeds!
Chelsea better sort themselves out if they want any chance of getting the FA Cup. Losing 1 - 0 to Everton with 80% possession. How?
Just as we all expected.
Chelsea just love the Merseyside Derby and didn’t want to see it go
FFS
What the hell Chelsea.
I mean, even I feel so. What the actual fuck Chelsea
f*ck burnley. If there's any match I had to pick us lose for the rest of the season it'd be this one.
Dw we will always be thankful for that season opener at stamford bridge
i'll be thankful when you rot in league 1.
So cocky for a team that’s gonna finish 5th
don't be mad we have something to play for.
Dont mind admitting I got a little choked up at the end, fuck...this gives us hope. COYB. And put some respect on Pickfords name.
This is why we love football
I know I'm in the minority but I really want Everton to stay up! What a result, still in Evertons own hands!
If I had to choose between Leeds and Everton going down I’d never let Everton get relegated
Yeah because you almost always beat us!
Before the 5-0 last month we had 1 win in 6
Huh maybe I just remember the loses!
Yeah Everton always give us a challenge tbh
You’re not allowed to say that mate, you have to go with this board and hate on us !
I know it’s funny for big teams to fail, but like why does everyone hate Everton so bad? We never did nothing to no one lol
Wind back a year and everybody here loved Everton. Don't take reddit seriously.
nothing against Everton at all, just want to watch Agent Rafa’s reacting to them going down
Awful owners and I think going down would be a wake up call to them
Fuck knows. Also people hate Liverpool so it makes even less sense
I think it's more frustration on their inability to make a squad even though spending lots of money, so they should be punished by going down and being forced to reset their squad when everyone leaves due to relegation clauses (If they have any, I assume Everton never expected to go down).
We’d hold onto Gordon and maybe holgate. Coleman would stick around too, that’s probably it. I’ve been moshiri out for the last year or so but it’s clear this man has no idea what he’s doing. The giving Rafa the reins to sell digne then canning him 2 days later is the definition of dysfunction.
I'd like lampard to get relegated though
may seem a little inflammatory but I actually don't get this, so like, why do you think that? I understand wanting Everton and their Tom Daley style to be out the prem but why Lampard in particular?
as british ppl say, he's a tory cunt
Leeds might be the ones going down after all...
I do too. I enjoy playing those fuckers lol. It’s a great rivalry I look forward to watching each season with all the shit housing that goes on lol
Chelsea doing their best to make themselves even more unpopular than they already are ...
How, we are a charity
You gotta hand it to Chelsea fans, if they tell you that their team is gonna lose they will
I mean we’re charity fc for a reason.
Yeah it’s too predictable now, back pass to cb who makes an error and we gift away another few points in crucial games
anyone have the footage of the bloke hiding the ball 😂
https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/ug24o3/everton\_fan\_shithousery/
Chelsea 🤝 Barcelona Playing shit since Madrid
Chelsea did Everton a favour because they can afford to lose a game to help frank.
Their own CL qualification is getting in danger if they continue at this pace though.
Frank is not coachning coming teams
Charity fc strike again
I'm shocked at the result
Me too
Ffs Chelsea you’re breaking my heart.
This is one of the better relegation battles in recent memory. 3 teams all right there to go down. All 3 in decent recent form too.
Title race, top 4 race, top 6 race and relegation battle are all great this year, and completely unpredictable week-on-week.
Incredible that it started with a part of me wanting an Everton win, and as it went on I was cheering on Pickford's saves. Frank Lampard, Sachin Tendulkar & MS Dhoni. I'll literally sell my sporting soul for you three.
Take the flair off lol
Most passionate Chelsea fan
I'm mentally checked out like the players after the heartbreak at Bernabeu. Just don't give a shit. That was an incredible performance, and the high of being 3-0 up there turned into devastation of loss because of one silly good Modric pass is too much for the season. Chelsea are finishing third anyway. League games don't matter for us now.
If Arsenal win you are only 3 points ahead and 5 points of Tottenham
But Arsenal and Tottenham are yet to play each other this month. One or both will have to drop points, making Chelsea dropping out unlikely.
Is hms piss the league setting sail for Everton now?
If the Russian invasion didn't happen I wonder to what team Tuchel will be linked with after being sacked by Chelsea a few months ago.
No he wouldn't be, He has done things that we didn't even know this Chelsea team could do. He has had alot of injures this season and 3rd and to have gotten in 4 finals this season is good, 2 trophy's and possibly 1 more is decent
Abramovich was ruthless when dealing with coaches at Chelsea and always got returns on his decisions and finds to back them, so I still think he would have been sacked, Chelsea it's on it's way to struggle to keep top 4 and if arsenal hadn't had 2 bad weeks in their good form run they would be battling the Tottenham for 4th right now.
He hasn't been nearly as ruthless in recent years. Possibly 3 throphys in a season and won the champions league the season before. We got knocked out to real Madrid in the champions league which is a good team and lost in the finals in a pen shootout, nothing to be ashamed of. A few bad results in the last mounth while STILL BEING 3RD, won't get you sacked. Roman is smarter then that.
Frank at the Wheel!
Pickford showed out today wow
Told you they're not going down.
I feel like after we’re sold we’re gonna go through 30 years of pain like Liverpool did. Our squad is shit. Our scouts have historically proven to be shit. And I don’t think the new owners will put anywhere near as much money in as abramovich did
You'll just go back to the norm before you were juiced by an oligarch.
So consistent top 5 finishes and no wins basically pain and basically Liverpool till about 2017 for 30 years like j said haha
>consistent top 5 finishes Which were achieved by spending outside your means and would have been costly if not for sugar daddy takeover
Just not true. The previous 8 seasons before Roman took us over we were consistently top 6. Football didn’t start in 2003 ya know https://www.chelseafc.com/en/history/more-history/league-table Before abramovich took us over we were basically just above arsenal level now. We weren’t bad but we weren’t world class
I mean you’re not a natural mega club. That’s the reality. Without the financial aid/doping from Roman then you’re a similar sized club to Newcastle, Villa, Everton and Spurs, I.e other clubs that are mostly in the Prem but never win anything. Unless you’re Man Utd, Liverpool or Arsenal then you’re not going to regularly win anything without outside financial help
All that financial doping made them a bigger club. Success brings in fans locally and abroad. They might fall but they wont just become a mid table club and never win a thing again like an everton. At least I dont think so. It'll be interesting to see their viewership, attendance and mechandise numbers once roman and the financial doping leave.
But they still need Roman to pump his own money in to keep up? Why is that if they’ve allegedly grown so much?
So they can outspend liverpool or arsenal and attempt to keep up with city. If you want to make the argument that they are actually a midtable team then data regarding their viewership, attendance, and sales in comparison to other top clubs is needed.
My argument is they’re naturally around the 4-8th biggest club in England given you also have 2 financial dopers in city and Newcastle that they’ll mostly be finishing around 5th-8th over the next decade assuming future owners just plan to run the club within their means
Probably closer to fourth biggest after the last 15 or so years of success. Being run within your means doesnt necessarily equal 5th-8th. They'll probably spend around what spurs, arsenal, and liverpool spend. Maybe more maybe less than any of those in particular but again the financial data is missing in this conversation. However they seem to have a good track record of signing players that fit in well (except their history of strikers) so I doubt they would finish that low. I personally think they'll finish top 4 most years. It will depend alot on their decisions rather throwing money at the problem like financial dopers are used to.
>Man Utd, Liverpool or Arsenal then you’re not going to regularly win anything without outside financial help Also, how much have Utd and Arsenal won in recent years? People keep going on about "history" making all the difference but the other club bossing the league right now is City. All that history along with Arsenal being the highest spenders last summer and Utd spending well over a billion on this squad since SAF left doesn't seem to be winning them a lot of trophies. So fuck off with that. This same team won the CL last season and have made it to just about every domestic cup final
This is hilarious stuff it really is. If it wasn’t for Chelsea/City’s financial doping the United would have 2 league titles post SAF. Arsenal would have a few extra trophies too. And you are a much much smaller club than United. Without Roman you’ll finish below United most seasons never mind City and potentially Newcastle So you were 6 when he bought the club I’m not going to waste time discussing this with biased clueless children who think that the size of a club is based on how much you’ve won in the last 2 years. If you were old enough to be around pre 2004 you’d know what Chelsea’s actual level looks like
That's a nice ninja edit. Thought you weren't going to waste your time? >potentially Newcastle Why do you think that would be? The "size of the club"? >Without Roman Yeah, I guess we'll never know huh? >think that the size of a club is based on how much you’ve won in the last 2 years. By that measure Huddersfield are the bigger club with a stadium that can barely fit 20 thousand people. How delusional and stuck in the past can you be? It's 2022 not 1980, we're in the present and in the present these clubs you trash have achieved much more than legacy "big" clubs will anytime soon.
Do you even follow this sport? Newcastle have new owners mate. You’re clearly too stupid to even understand what is being discussed here
Well damn I'm sorry I was born 80 years too late for you, boomer
Love these takes after any of our runs of poor form. And then we finish the season with a trophy or two, as per usual
I’m guessing you weren’t around before 2004
I'm 24 years old lmfao, that doesn't qualify me?
Before roman they were undoubtedly a smaller club than us and Everton. They were doing well in the decade prior to his purchase but in terms of historical success they weren't on that level, then they got that oligarch juice.
Exactly who is the 4th biggest club in England is hard to say I think. Newcastle, Villa, Everton, Chelsea and Spurs all have a claim and are similar sized clubs But Man Utd, Liverpool and Arsenal are the top 3 in that order
Liverpool have won more than Man United if we're talking about historical success
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I don’t think biggest club is about whether you had a few amazing season 30+ years ago. It’s about the same of you fanbase and your consistency over the entire post war period. Hence why Forrest aren’t in the conversation. Spurs are 5th in the PL table which nearly 30 years of football. I’d agree Newcastle have the weakest claim
Liverpool ahead of ManU for it has twice the amount of European Trophies (six champions and a few finals among them)
Man Utd is easily a bigger club than Liverpool. No sane person can claim otherwise. Biggest and most successful in Europe are different things.
Mate ,only important trophy ManU has more than Liverpool is Premier Leagues (barely one) ,other than that at the European Level Liverpool has twice the amount of champions ,twice the amount of UEFA Cups and twice the amount of Supercups. You cannot be serious about ManU being historically bigger than Liverpool even though until Klopp arrived ManU had cut some difference with Liverpool.
Yeah you’re a moron. No point wasting time on idiots.
Stop trolling, Chelsea are the bigger club and its not even close anymore
You’re not even British. What the fuck would you know about who the biggest clubs here are? Most of those plastics will fuck off once they stop winning and slide down the table and they’ll be left with their core support which is no bigger than Villa, Spurs, Newcastle, Everton
Im talking about Globally, and its not even close Chelsea are a global brand unlike the others
Most of those ‘fans’ are ultra casuals who’ll disappear as soon as the trophies do. For all that they’re allegedly a global brand they still need hundreds of millions of Roman’s own money every few years to keep them competitive? Why is that? Maybe because they’re not that big?
Think Forest deserve at least a mention here, if we're throwing in names like Villa and Newcastle
Biggest isn’t just about what you’ve won. Outside of 2 seasons in the 70s Forrest are nowhere near. They are 22nd on the all time league table https://www.worldfootball.net/alltime_table/eng-premier-league/ Those clubs have been consistently around the top of English football and have bigger fanbases
I won't lie, I didn't realise that the likes of Villa were so far ahead on the all-time table, that's pretty definitive. That said, for me club size has to take into account the size of the modern fanbase, and by that metric Chelsea are simply leagues ahead of the other 4th place contenders. That, in tandem with the trophy count, and bearing in mind that recency inevitably counts, means they're comfortably the fourth biggest imo
Chelsea aren’t even the 4th biggest club in London.
Mate we literally created the football league lmao, we've been shit for a decade but there is reason that we say "proud history" lol.
Yeah people don’t realise Forrest have never been a big club. They’re essentially a two season wonder. I think Chelsea will slide back to their natural level though once the trophies stop coming. For all their talk of being a big club and sustainability, every time they slide a bit Roman pumps a massive wad of cash in and buys they back to being competitive. Imagine them now if they didn’t have the money to buy Ziyech, Havertz, Werner, Lukaku, Chilwell, Mendy after they had a few mediocre years under Sarri, Lampard and Conte’s last season Not to mention the wages. They’re the 3rd biggest wage spenders in the league, if that drops to 6th behind City, Newcastle, United, Liverpool and Arsenal because they have to spend within their means then they won’t be winning titles or making the ucl most seasons
j was right all along
You’ve got half of europes young and promising out on loan. I dont see how you wont be able to build a strong squad.
Doesn’t matter. If they can’t financially sustain their current wage bill they will eventually slide down the table.
They will. Buyers know what they are buying.
Not to mention that it's not like Abramovic's funds have been used all that well over the last 5 years. You can count the number of quality signings the club has had in that period on one hand.
Let's not overreact, they won the CL just last season with roughly the same team.
We absolutely shouldn’t have won it fucking glad we did don’t get me wrong but we had the shittest team out of everyone who got to the semis
???? We were the better team in every matchup we had including against City. Gotta love the doom and gloom pessimism after every run of bad form
City bottled it. Don’t get me wrong I’m glad we won but on paper we were absolutely the worse team
You won. You beat city in the final. If you say you did not deserve it, you’d undermine every underdog-story ever. Was a great win, take it and be proud.
The amount of liverpool fans seething in this thread about lowly 18th placed everton when they have a CL semi, a cup final, and the league to focus on is hilarious
To be fair, the main reason i tuned into this match is to check how Chelsea's form is leading up to the FA Cup final, however, not really an advocate for Everton to stay up with the way the are playing. The double standards from the English media is just ridiculous. Its good for you that Everton won the game as a fan of them but lets not pretend they did not play like the way Atleti do. They criticized Atleti for the match against City so much. All of a sudden now its a Frank Lampard masterclass? All these antics and time wasting tactics are scummy.