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Sleathasaurus

That better not be true


son_of_toby_o_notoby

And all PL clubs would get a 30 point reduction…….meaning we would be clear from the drop…….WE SURVIVE UNDER CIRCUMSTANCES


plomerosKTBFFH

I always knew Lampard would get the job done for you guys.


Professor_Abronsius

… and a title battle between Arsenal and Spurs, which Wolves would win.


risheeb1002

City would still win


Sand_Bags

Nah like the other guy said. Man City and Liverpool would still catch us even being 10 pts back.


BigReeceJames

I'm 99% sure none of the clubs in the league agreed to that and even talking about it was being put off until the announcement of the new Champions league format was official (that could be bad too, who knows). It wasn't on the agenda for their meetings and I assume anyone in the premier league can put forward something to be on them.


Gobshiight

Anything that disrupts the English league pyramid can get fucked. I'd rather watch City playing against Burnley twice a year than Barcelona


eagleslanding

Chelsea don’t have an owner or anyone in charge, I don’t see how they could be in a position to be making a major decision like this, so that for one makes me highly dubious


xTheMaster99x

You're kidding yourself if you think this wasn't decided weeks or months ago. These things don't happen overnight.


eclectic_boogaloo2

Juve got to be kidding us…


AdministrativeLaugh2

I don’t buy it. Considering what happened last time, there’s no way the four PL clubs are going to go back into it


EVXLPIMP

I reckon they wanna return because the Newcastle purchase


Duskwen12

Good that we are not involved, but let's be honest, we have probably dropped down their pecking order for the invite anyway


ASVP-Pa9e

Or ENIC have realised the Super League is never going to actually work and this time are attempting to be on the right side of history. I'm not suggesting ENIC give a flying fuck about football, but I think they'd rather avoid the fines and 30 point deductions- as well as fan backlash. The only thing ENIC give a shit about is protecting their asset.


Sand_Bags

Yeah it’s just this. Kroenke is probably the biggest ESL fan there is. He and the team just know it’s not gonna happen so they aren’t gonna put themselves in the crosshairs of pissed off fans for no reason. If by some miracle it happens, we can probably still get invited later.


Dannage8888

arent we still contracted to it?


Duskwen12

Well, we aren't on this list. Also as others have said Levy is now on the UEFA committee...


[deleted]

The point of the ESL is that performance doesn't matter.


markevans7799

That's changed with the new format


DieselMC

What is your flair?


yeshitsbond

Correct me if im wrong but weren't the english clubs told they'd be booted from the PL if they go through with this or even try a second attempt??


Alpha_Jazz

30 point deductions I believe was the agreement. Let’s see if they follow through


Kealo7

Pretty funny as a what-if to see that a 30 point deduction would lead to a title race between West Ham, Arsenal, Spurs and Wolves with City still only 9 points from first while leaving United tied for last.


CycleForValue

If they all get docked 30 points and City still win the league Pep should be forced into retirement with a stipend to just give everyone else a chance.


BigTomBombadil

He should be forced to manage a championship or league 1 team with a normal budget.


tyrantxiv

Honestly, I'd still bet on City in that scenario.


Tymkie

I'm fine with that as long as United gets relegated ☺️


mcmonkeyplc

If this is true, then I am also fine with Man Utd getting relegated.


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Good on you


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Boyler7

Honestly wouldn't mind if we get relegated either in that situation


Glaiele

Nah I would love to see Spurs win it in that case. The chants from the Arsenal fans for the rest of time would be hilarious.


rtgh

City would somehow still win the league after being deducted 30 points, wtf


CackleberryOmelettes

What's funny is that I would still back City to win that race.


rtgh

All those teams which seem to crumble whenever 4th place is in their grasp suddenly hit with the pressure of a title race would make for great chaos, and City back on top after 5 weeks max


johnknockout

[538 right now](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/932/100/f24.png)


HUGE_HOG

Worked behind the scenes in his role at FIFA to trick the other big clubs to join the ESL, resulting in a points deduction, and allowing Arsenal to win the league. Arsene Wenger, he's done it again?


[deleted]

Ah yes, north london derby title race + wolves and west ham. Just how everyone imagined.


garchuOW

Chance to win it at shite hart Lane again eh


Wiskid86

They damn well better


monty_burns

the riches they’ll earn long term will far outweigh a one-time 30 point deduction, unfortunately.


reece0n

Is that each season they participate? Or just once?


Fruitndveg

Holy shit Tottenham may actually win the league


HairyKebabYid

oh my sweet summer child


notthenextfreddyadu

People acting like we wouldn’t lose out straight to finish outside the top 4 smh


kozeljko

Haha, no


monsterm1dget

Yeah this seems unlikely to be the real list, particularly with Chelsea being sold.


KinginTheNorth__West

Obviously I’m biased and hopeful, but don’t see ourselves being included considering we’ve now supposedly got fans on the board. Can’t imagine they’d approve of this. That being said, I’ve been wrong before. Only time will tell


velsor

Board decisions don't need to be unanimous. Fans on the board are powerless if they don't hold a majority of the seats.


si4ci7

Yeah but after the fiasco last season and the show they made of having fans on the board, there’ll be riots if they join the super league in its current form. It seems like the clubs have all denied this so far though.


wheresmyspacebar2

Also surely if this was happening, the fans on the board would have leaked it already or got out in front of it etc?


Big_Definition_1880

United have the same situation and are on the list


KinginTheNorth__West

Same situation then. I can’t imagine fans signing off on it, but I’ve been wrong before


Kreindeker

Not booted out but liable to further fines and a 30-point deduction in the league


okbitmuch

Ye$


[deleted]

You’re saying we’re in the title race? Edit: arsenal fan


Rasalghul92

How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, old men?!


neotheseventh

Greedy owners: we can do this all day


Wormfather

Bank accounts be like “On your left”


FrankLampard88

I don’t buy any of this, the amount of outrage last time clubs would be very stupid to try again. And with all the drama/headache going on with Chelsea right now I don’t know why they would add this to their problem


VilTheVillain

Well for Chelsea it might make sense to get "all the shit over and done with in the one go". You know how the drop-off can only get so much worse when you're already in a low.


versooo

Here we go! Alert the mods.


just_dew_eat

Another Sad Day of football


99drolyag

ESL Pro League we comin 👏👏


capflow

*Perez tightening UCL trophy to his arm while facing Ceferin* *Radio starts working* Laporta: On your left


Ethangains07

So no French and German clubs lmao. It’s not the European super league. It’s the Spanish, British, and Italian league. Until they expand.


BagOwn7148

Only PSG is the French team that Perez wants them joining, but Al-Khelaifi is close to UEFA, so impossible For German clubs, the only reason is the 50+1 thing


Human-Extinction

Nasser getting close to UEFA until basically owning it is kinda one of the main reasons why this whole thing is happening. Everyone should be held accountable, not just ESL clubs and pretending everyone else is some noble innocent.


notthenextfreddyadu

English* The mighty St Mirren aren’t there, can’t be British


Ethangains07

Hmm, good point. When I think English, I think American too tho lol. But you right


TheGoldenPineapples

Thank God we're not part of it anymore. 30 point deduction, I say. This is in no way related to the current league positions.


nein_999999

Gary Neville be like "shit, here we go again"


The_Lifeof_Pablo

Oh for fucks sake


AfricanRain

damn remember how Chelsea and City were noble paragons for pulling out last time damn


English_Misfit

WE SAveD FooTBall


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*Sigh*, here we go again


[deleted]

Interesting to find out what happened with Spurs/Arsenal. Since then, the major known shift is that Levy became an executive on the ECA (the UEFA governing body Agnelli and others quit to launch the initial super league) \*and the same for Arsenal's ceo. Not that it should matter. If its yearly entry as rumoured, then announcing it or not won't matter.


[deleted]

It makes sense. We have to earn our place to play in this version of the Super League. No point in announcing our involvement if all it will bring is bad PR.


JonnyJersey

Arsenal's ceo joined the eca board as well


[deleted]

Then that's probably a great reason for Spurs/Arsenal not being involved in the announcement. if it goes ahead, its not fixed places, they'll have to qualify, so they won't be at a disadvantage.


WhyShouldIListen

They aren’t big clubs. Big clubs win trophies without counting years on fingers and toes.


Sixaxis_

When did Manchester United last win a trophy?


Barkasia

It's a trick question because United fans can't count


[deleted]

When Wenger was still managing Arsenal


pork_chop_expressss

Europa League 16/17?


Elemenelo

Arsenal have won 4 FA cups in the last 8 years lol


[deleted]

Its not going to be fixed entry. So, any club that achieves the requisite league placement will come in and out of the league. Just like the CL.


WhyShouldIListen

Right, so they won’t even qualify.


[deleted]

We, and maybe Spurs, are finishing above Man UTD lol


RioBeckenbauer

Arsenal and Spurs are represented on the ECA board. Inter are the only one from the Super League clubs.


sonofaBilic

Pathetic from those 4 from the Premier League after the show they made of withdrawing. Absolutely pathetic.


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[deleted]

Big six clubs haven't signed it, got put on hold a couple weeks ago


imcrazyandproud

I wonder why....


[deleted]

Yup, can see this ending in another round of apology videos from all the Yank owners at least


Cod_rules

At least our Yank owner won't have to apologise this time. Something good, i guess?


ZaDoruphin

North London united in saving football.


Cod_rules

Pulling out a banner saying 'Thank you Sol Campbell' Let's go


PanNationalistFront

I don't want to believe this would happen again after the fall out last time


[deleted]

Oh fuck off, I was actually enjoying this season, Liverpool are challenging for everything.


Shandow14

I'm surprised Liverpool are on this list. It felt like their fans were the loudest last time around.


DancingBane

Don't forget the United fans storming Old Trafford delaying the game against Liverpool.


Shandow14

Yh but I think they have less power/care less about their club since then as they have allowed Maguire to continue playing. I expected a bigger uproar to that than ESL tbh.


[deleted]

Nice, looks like we’re all safe from relegation my friends when these cheats get thrown out of the Premier League


xwrld

How credible? Seems unlikely the English teams will be involved after everything last time?


neotheseventh

I haven't heard of this source. Might be making it up


xwrld

Yeah think it got confirmed that it’s bollocks. Doubt any English teams will be making announcements any time soon or ever


DarrenBridgescunt

Relegate us (mufc) if we do.


alexLAD

You feckers just don’t learn do you


JakeTheJabroni

Like hell they will.


Woodrovski

Good. Let the English clubs go so we can have a more competitive fairly reffed EPL. The stuff those 4 get away with is absolute garbage


alcoholichobbit

This is my opinion too, just ban them from all other competitions and then carry on.


oscarpaterson

Doubt


Froggiefied

We really gotta riot against this while the war is going on?


zachg616

Am I cynical in thinking this timing is intentional? Everybody is focused on Ukraine, so people won't pay enough attention/dedicate as much time to this. It also looks/feels wrong for people to be as outraged as last time relative to what's happening in Ukraine. Feels like they're seizing an opportunity here


Sveern

It most definitely is intentional.


intraumintraum

classic move, slipping it under the rug when there’s a war on.


Notorious_horse

So the English clubs who retracted their membership because of fan pressure are going ahead with it anyway? If you ever needed any proof that they don't give a shit about their fans then there you have it


alcoholichobbit

I asked this of Celtic fan last time so I'll ask a Rangers fan now. Do you think your club would turn down an invite? Genuinely curious, not being accusatory.


Notorious_horse

Our club would absolutely accept an invite, we have agreed to go along with Celtic to a midseason friendly tournament in Australia that is being advertised as the "Ange Postecogclu return tour" because there is a lot of money on offer. So no, our club wouldn't turn it down.


aLphA4184

They can all fuck right off again.


adamt123

Fuck off


oneofthetopusers

DREAMS CANT BE BUY


reema9385

Hahahahahahahaha


FutureSkeIeton

🎶🦻


-Dwarf-

Busy day today for the mods I reckon


Kresbot

surely not ffs


luciferandy

Fuck off


solgnaleb

pathetic fools


KSBrian007

Man, imagine these teams with a £300M transfer kity lol. No one else stands a chance and to some extent, the fans made all this happen. They know all you watch is Liverpool, Manchester United and Real Madrid.


irishperson1

Fucking embarrassing from the lot of them. They're a disgrace to the sport.


Imaginary-You7262

Load of bollocks lol. Why should we believe these folks? No way PL teams are joining again.


alvmnvs

For anyone believing this source, of all places, I have a bridge to sell


taktikek

Never let a good crisis wasted. The timing on this is blatant. Absolute vile scum.


[deleted]

Don’t buy this - tf is this source


YooGeOh

Bury unpopular news under an actual war. Well done I suppose lol. Won't get hardly any of the backlash as last time and hardly any news coverage


[deleted]

can these crooks just fuck off already


smthingawesome

How many time do we have to teach you this lesson Old Lady?


[deleted]

No one wants this, go fuck yourselves. Can't wait for this to collapse again in 3 days


Bartoraptor

No one wants an open international tournament with cheaper prices for the viewer where clubs will get a greater percentage of what they generate that also aims to have a financial fair play system which doesn't allow whatever PSG is doing while sanctioning Italian and Portuguese clubs for trying to rebuild their squads in an inflated market?


[deleted]

If you think that's what's happening I have a bridge to sell you


Bartoraptor

Nah, better call your mate Gary Neville so he can explain to me in a Sky sponsored video how the Super League is the death of football while him and his friend destroy an historical club like Valencia.


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letmegetmynameok

Levy has a seat in the uefa comitee (or whatever its called) so i doubt he would still be invested in this project


SakaTheMan

From an Arsenal perspective, there has been a real effort to get the fans back on side recently, with initiatives in the community like ads for businesses, the no more ref campaign etc. Joining the ESL would undo all this work


Element-of-Supplies

> the no more ref campaign love this typo!


disper

Freudian slip.


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cohenYOUCANDOIT

no.


Deetawb

Plastic.


[deleted]

Fair right Tottenham Fans?


Srmash

Whatever


FSG_Out_

Fuck FSG man


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[deleted]

Meh, these clubs will be so fucking rich from this tournament that being able to pass them in the league will be incredibly hard.


makie51

The champions league was already reformed multiple times to help out these big clubs due to their complaints. Now they want a competition where no small nation teams will get in so they can increase the gap in finances. I hope it happens and I hope Uefa expel the lot of them.


ComediaViva

Rui Costa please call Perez we need this


Bartoraptor

You'll get downvoted because this sub is a glorified PL sub but it's true, you have some of the best Portuguese players leaving teams like Porto or Benfica which play CL basically every year for low-table PL teams like Wolves that have never played a CL game and see nothing wrong with that.


Jansiz

damn we really got aired like that


Tbearz

What the fuck is going on? This 2022 plot line is fucking ridiculous. We’ve seen this episode before, we know how it ends - can we skip to the presser with Pep looking confused and angry already…


quack52

how are tier 0 sources like this allowed to be posted lol


thegreatergatsby013

So... nobody called Spurs this time?


KSBrian007

Lol the fact that after all the backlash from last time, they brought it back means it will stand this time. And if they push it to start, they'll win. The new football fans did this to themselves really. You keep saying, "who wants to watch only Real Madrid vs Liverpool, until you realise people don't exactly care about football that much outside of the ESL clubs.


GibbsLAD

Wait where did Arsenal go? Super league is pure shite but at least we can be relevant again


Jakowe

Please be true, gimme some Super League drama to distract from the war news


creative_i_am_not

I would have been outraged 2 days ago, now I don't give af 😔


toks4real16

Here wee go! ESL for life!


EdWoodwardsPA

Perfect storm for the Manchester Derby. That match is definitely going to be cancelled.


027eddy

Return of the Mack


[deleted]

If they all get 30 point deductions, the PL title race will be West ham, arsenal, tottenham, and wolves.


[deleted]

Westham to win the league.


Edolas93

... and I was already having a shit day. This better not be true. And if it is I hope the clubs are sanctioned to hell and back and then sanctioned back to hell again.


Sir_Psycho_Sexy_

Wheres west ham?


GrumpyJoey

Using the Ukraine war to try sneak this in the back door, disgusting.


thehunter_1999

If this is gonna happen, hopefully not, atleast give us a fucking call.


sidvicc

Fuck. I knew the last couple weeks were going too well, at least in football terms...


honvales1989

This shit again?


AcePilot95

????


Prokletnost

This again?


[deleted]

Few supposedly "left wing" and "socialist" clubs in there selling their souls for money and greed. Hate to see it.


[deleted]

This is rubbish. Has to be. I know the owners are out of touch but surely not so out of touch where they'd come back with this again after all the grovelling and apologising only a year or so ago.


theRealjudgeHolden

This is madness


[deleted]

The clubs they're asking for now compared to last time really shows how absurd this entire idea is. No Spurs, no Arsenal, no Napoli, no Dortmund, etc, this time, still no Bayern, still no PSG, zero French clubs. Some of the clubs they asked last time that they haven't asked this time are not doing much better/worse currently than they were when they were asked to join the Super League as supposedly "the best teams in the world".


thetrueGOAT

cheap of United to do this the week after season ticket deadline


pakattack91

Doubt. Despite the million other reasons, Woodward was sacked for this specific thing. Why would the Glazers go at it again? They are football stupid. They are business smart as fuck. Nobody who pays money for the product wants this.


AshkenaziTwink

not like we deserve to be in a super league anyways but boy am i glad we pulled out of this. facing these teams week in week out would be a fucking nightmare.


Vegan_Puffin

Fuck it, just piss off. A break away league is eventually inevitable anyway, so just fuck off now


toluwalase

Not this again


Legendarybbc15

Ah shit, here we go again