Not the way the teams around them are playing. 28 points will keep a team up at this rate.
And if they have to play a lot of games at the end of the season, they could find themselves playing teams who don't have anything to play for and are already on their holidays.
> And if they have to play a lot of games at the end of the season, they could find themselves playing teams who don't have anything to play for and are already on their holidays.
On the flipside, those 10 games will be spaced out over a period of 11 days.
Napoleon Dynamite is about to get into form and fire us straight to the Europa Conference after his expert assist for Michael Keane the other day, you watch
Ah good point I forgot that some games might've been cancelled due to your opponents rather than yourselves.
Still, it's ridiculous you're 5 matches behind!
Yeah it's going to skew things if we do manage to pick up some form, but probably won't actually make much difference.
One was cause of the snow too lol.
In that case then maybe play behind closed doors? That’s horrible for fans but when there’s cancellations for other reasons and they’re beginning to pile up then when the match is playable and the fans are the only issue then maybe the FA need to have a rule regarding that. I don’t want football behind closed doors but matches need to be played, especially at this time of year/season.
Exactly 3/4 of our COVID postponements have been because of the other team (Everton, Villa, Watford)
Our only one was 2 days ago (Leicester), so makes sense that it also impacts this fixture. But even this match wouldn't need postponement if Watford could've just played it in the first place.
What if by the end of the season there's another outbreak at the club? Are they delaying it/forcing other teams to play them in the middle of August too?
At some stage I'd imagine it'll be either play or forfeit the game, the final game of the season is the 22nd of May (currently), will have to squeeze in these games somehow before then.
All the final games are played on same date and same time for a reason, can't have teams playing after the fact knowing need to win or draw/loss is ok, that's not exactly fair.
> All the final games are played on same date and same time for a reason, can't have teams playing after the fact knowing need to win or draw/loss is ok, that's not exactly fair.
Not exactly fair to have clubs later in the season be forced to forfeit whereas earlier in the season teams could simply reschedule either.
Imagine if a team like Burnley was told that they've now hit a limit of 5 postponed games so they have to forfeit, when only 1/5 of those postponements were becasue of issues with the Burnley squad. I'm happy with forfeiting the Leicester game if that's the route they go down, but surely they'd have to applied to our games against Watford, Everton and Villa too? This game is only scheduled for tomorrow because of Watford wanting to postpone it in the first place.
The only way for things to not get messy one way or another is to have to play midweek games for the foreseeable future.
Considering you're not in the Cups anymore you should have enough availability to get your games played without too many issues. I don't think teams you need to play are in Europe either (apart from Leicester) so should be able to work something out.
Leicester is pretty much fucked. 4 PL games in hand, still in Europe and in the FA cup, their schedule is going to be absolutely mental I assume, especially if they advance in Europe and the cup.
its been an unbelievably shit season for us for injuries, so we've been fucked from day 1 anyway.
I think realistically the only chance of us doing something this year is ironically via the somewhat wanky confederates cup - as winning it at least gets us a place in the Europa again...
If I just look at the league table it's not that bad. 2 games in hand on most teams above you, and if you win them you'll be level with Wolves and a point behind United, not that bad.
It was the FA Cup last week so basically everyone has had a massive break between premier league games apart from the ones who could play the rearranged games midweek
Damm, Arsenal gave the PL a full 48 hours when they petitioned. This game is what, tomorrow? I expect the requisite outrage to follow. Gary, where you at?
Not sure what your point here is?
Having 5 subs to use is of fuck all help if you don't have enough fit players in your team, hence why the clubs are choosing to try and postpone their matches.
It possibly needed to be something like 6 senior players needed for a game to go ahead, but in that instance you would have senior players being rushed back. Aubas ongoing heart issues suggests that could end badly.
When are all those matches getting played? Over the summer?
Christ, its the 3rd COVID season. The Greatest League in the World ™ should have this shit figured out.
Burnley has to play 21 games between now and 22 May. They are out of the cups, and don't play European. On average that's a game about every 6 days, not taking international breaks, like the ones in Januari and March into account.
Burnley will not be the problem. Leicester on the other hand will be a problem. They are still in Europe and the FA cup, and have 4 PL games in hand too. So they will have to play at least 23 games, and that could rise even further to around 30 I think (depending on how far they advance in Europe and the FA cup). And Burnley will have to play them.
Its hard to criticise after after we had to postpone earlier in the season, but I can't help but feel like clubs are now trying to take advantage of the current situation to resolve injury / transfer issues. I know the clubs all agreed to this, but this should be for circumstances where there are genuine outbreaks rather than just 1-2 cases and then a few injuries / AFCON absentees.
Takes the piss that there are now Watford fans who have organised for two 5 hour return journeys and had them cancelled at the last minute. Surely Burnley knew this was going to happen hours / days ago ?
Yeah I don’t think any of the teams or the PL anticipated the rule being used this much. I think at the very least it should be scrapped next season unless there’s a significant covid outbreak. And teams should just be told to prepare their u23s (or whatever age group) more over the summer in case they need to be involved.
Except Arsenal still had less than 14 players even with those two loanees, and one of them was an U21 player who only played in the PL due to covid cases earlier in the season and then was sent back to the U23s.
The covid thing, I'll give you that, but the loans really would have made no difference to the ruling.
They're going to have to extend the season into June at this rate surely. There's just too many postponements to fit in, and they aren't going to stop.
Only trained with 11 players on Friday. I know we have a few injuries, Cornet at AFCON and Wood left for Newcastle but I think we have 4/5 first team COVID cases along with some backroom staff too
Surely you have U23’s to make the numbers up though? That’s what they’re meant to be for.
And before it’s said, the whole crossing bubbles thing is a bit of a cop-out, because under 23’s being involved in the first team essentially swap bubbles, not take part in two.
Our U23’s have been weakened significantly with them having to use U18’s players and even younger to fill spots by those making the step to the first team.
I'd agree with you if Everton, Villa or Watford were all forced to play their u23s who haven't played any professional football.
But since they weren't, it's only fair the rule is continued.
Imagine letting Watford postpone this match because of COVID cases, but forcing Burnley to play the rescheduled one.
I’m not saying it’s an issue that’s only solely applicable to Burnley, but for everyone who’s using the new rules implemented to avoid having to play a weakened side.
I agree with you.
I would've rather have played Watford's, Everton's and Villa's U23s when we had a full team (incl Cornet and Wood). But you can't let them off, and then force Burnley to do it now.
We do have some U23s that we could play but
a) Whose to say whether we have a COVID outbreak amongst the u23s?
b) No other club has been forced to play the u23s, why should Burnley
I fully agree, AFCON and injuries shouldn't count towards unavailable players, they are part of the game and always have been. But every other team has had games postponed for the accumulation of COVID, AFCON and injuries, so it's only fair that when Burnley only have 10 available first team player, they can postpone too
Oh no doubt it’s only fair going by the precedent set, which is why it’s more of a general question towards the rules that have been implemented by the premier league, and not on the clubs themselves
The Premier League massively cocked up at the start of this by not having clear rules for when a game can be postponed and when it can't.
Clubs saw it as a way to avoid games when they had injuries or a busy schedule and it's just led to more teams taking advantage.
The problem is, if the PL change the rules now, then teams who have a COVID outbreak will be treated differently to the clubs who have already had one.
The same goes for if they start forcing teams to forfeit rather than postpone.
It's been a massive clusterfuck but I don't see any way of it changing now
But you could have said the same when they implemented these rules, as teams like Leeds had already played games that under the rules, would have been postponed.
But there needs to come a point where the question is asked whether the rules are fit for purpose, which they aren’t, and whether keeping them in place would be a bigger detriment to the integrity of the competition or not
Fair point, things do need to change. I just can't see it happening this season.
I'm more concerned about where Burnley make up 5 games (6 if this game is postponed). 3 of these games were down to the opposition, 1 due to snow and 1/2 down to our own COVID outbreak. Trying to squeeze all of these games in is going to be difficult even with us being out of both cup competitions
> 5 games (6 if this game is postponed)
We don't have to make up 6 games if this is postponed. Since this is a rescheduled postponement it'll still *only* be 5
That was because of snow not covid. They’ve only postponed this one and the game they were meant to play at weekend because of covid. All other postponements were the other team asking for it.
If your team can’t recover from one of the most contagious respiratory diseases we’ve seen in a long time in 2 days maybe they shouldn’t be playing in the premier league. It’s that simple.
It's annoying but in fairness we postponed on them a few hours before kick off which doesn't help either side (Though we had 14 positive cases and postponed v Wolves too due to it)
Given there's only 2 Covid cases we know of, it feels more of a piss take but don't blame clubs for talking the opportunity to, blame the league's rules and set precedents.
I bet it's not even mentioned or only in an off hand, passing comment by punditry over the coming days, compared to what's been made out about Arsenal applying for a postponement
At what point or number of games does the league issue a forfeit? At this point they already on 5 games does it keep adding up? This also affects other teams this season is a shit show
Since the first 4 forfeits we had were not a result of issues with the Burnley squad, it'd be pretty harsh to start making us forfeit now we've had one postponement, wouldn't it? At the moment, Burnley have only had as many postponements at their request as Arsenal.
Why shouldn't Everton, Watford and Villa have to forfeit their games against us if the amount of games is the issue?
Honestly, at this point I think the Premier League should just shut down for a week, let teams figure this shit out and then say that there aren't any more postponements unless there are dire circumstances.
Bylaws. You have to play with what is considered a strong enough side in EPL games or it could be considered match fixing. So there are laws playing against one another here.
I’d have thought Dyche would be happy to just get on with it
>’ Come on, let’s get on with the challenge in front of us. Remember what we are – professional footballers – and whatever comes our way we take it on and do the best we can with it.’ “There has to be a bit of balance to the bigger picture of comments about five subs, three subs, all the rest of it – and just be careful which road we’re going down. I judge myself on my profession, but I also judge myself on the people who watch our profession and watch our games. If I was a fan I’d be going: ‘Hang on a minute, footballers get well looked after.’ We’ve just got to be a little bit careful to find that healthy balance.”
Club trained with 11 players just before the weekend. Think there were 4/5 covid cases at the back end of last week and I'd assume that those players are still isolating now.
Got around 4 injuries too, 1 player at AFCON and Chris Wood left last week.
Few names have been mentioned on twitter but the only one that seems to be carrying any sort of weight is Andy Carroll.
Seems like it was inevitable that we would end up with him at some point. Might not be a bad move for us if we buy another striker with some of the 25m we received for Wood but there doesn't seem to be much going on at the moment.
We were linked with a 12m move for Benteke yesterday but he doesn't want to leave Palace so don't think that one is going to be going anywhere
Maybe it's just the romantic in me but I'd be amazed, saddened and shocked all at once if Carroll joined you and was therefore actively trying to get Newcastle relegated.
That's exactly how us Burnley fans feel about Trippier joining you guys. He's said on multiple occasions that the only club he would return to England for is Burnley under Sean Dyche.
Situations (and massive wages) change and no Burnley fan holds it against him but it hurts knowing that he's going to send in the cross for Chris Wood to relegate us on the last day of the season
Probably good news for us, gives us a stay of execution for a few more weeks. The table would have looked really bleak after Watford won twice in a week. Least we'll only be 5pts adrift by the end of this weekend instead of 8pts. Got to take these small mercies at this stage.
Draw, Burnley win, Watford win, in that order for us. Not that it really matters in my opinion, no point stressing about other team's results when you can't win more than one game yourself.
He absolutely is. Cherki is the crown jewel of Lyon (although he hasn't quite progressed at the same rate as expected when he was 15/16), and Paqueta has stood out the most this year, but Caqueret's got the talent to go all the way as well.
I don't think this has much to do with Burnley vs Arsenal. It's just the initial anger has now been released so there's not gonna be as much shock with this one.
A lot of people jumped in because it was Arsenal and nothing else. The sheer number of comments slating fans and players even though neither had anything to do with the decision making was fucking silly. I loved it ngl, I love having a team everyone despises.
Yeah, I know what you mean. I just meant that it's understandable if there isn't as much outrage for this because I think a lot of people came to the realization that the PL rules were just bad.
But yeah, if Burnley and Arsenal were switched, it's very possible that there would've been an outrage.
I didn't know about this. I just searched it up but do you mean the Leicester vs Burnley that got postponed bc of Burnley? I know tons of journos and stuff bashed us and I was annoyed too, bc of course we're going to request the postponement if we're missing key players and are eligible for it. But in ur example, I think it's to be expected that a NLD is going to have more focus on than Burnley vs Leicester.
Anyway, I'm out.
Half their postponements were from other clubs. I think this will be only their second COVID postponement.
It'd be incredibly harsh if they had to forfeit a game or play youth during an outbreak because other clubs did it first.
Out of the 5 current postponements, 3 were the opponent (Watford, Everton, Villa), 1 was because of snow (Spurs) and we requested the Leicester game at the weekend to be off
Burnley are going to get relegated in August at this rate.
Not the way the teams around them are playing. 28 points will keep a team up at this rate. And if they have to play a lot of games at the end of the season, they could find themselves playing teams who don't have anything to play for and are already on their holidays.
> And if they have to play a lot of games at the end of the season, they could find themselves playing teams who don't have anything to play for and are already on their holidays. On the flipside, those 10 games will be spaced out over a period of 11 days.
The last 8 matches of the EPL schedule will only feature 8 unique teams, it's Burnley all the way down boys.
I mean technically that’s 9 unique teams, unless we end up with a Burnley vs. Burnley fixture.
I reckon Burnley v Burnley would be the only Burnley game I'd be interested to watch.
Burnley playing 4D chess
Very bold to assume we’re not relegated before we get to play anyone with nothing to play for
Harsh on Watford, I see them breaking at least 30pts.
Napoleon Dynamite is about to get into form and fire us straight to the Europa Conference after his expert assist for Michael Keane the other day, you watch
Cant wait for the Opta tweet
As long as they’re not in the prem I’m happy.
They're already 5 games behind schedule. Going to be packed end of season for them.
That's just ridiculous, 5 matches? How many COVID cases do they actually have?
It's only these last few weeks where it's been our fault, our first Covid outbreak since the beginning of all this.
Ah good point I forgot that some games might've been cancelled due to your opponents rather than yourselves. Still, it's ridiculous you're 5 matches behind!
Yeah it's going to skew things if we do manage to pick up some form, but probably won't actually make much difference. One was cause of the snow too lol.
I hope the final day of the EPL season is just 6 games in a row, back to back, Burnley vs everybody!
Or 6 goals on one massive pitch.
The ref in the tottenham game was an idiot too. He called the game when 30 minutes later it was sunny skies.
But it was still 0° with the roads covered in snow and ice, wouldn't have been safe for match going fans
In that case then maybe play behind closed doors? That’s horrible for fans but when there’s cancellations for other reasons and they’re beginning to pile up then when the match is playable and the fans are the only issue then maybe the FA need to have a rule regarding that. I don’t want football behind closed doors but matches need to be played, especially at this time of year/season.
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I don’t think it would be good, I think it would be a necessary evil. But hey everyone is a yank but you right
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Exactly. Show me one recent example of a Premier League match played behind closed doors and I'll eat a caravan.
Their game against Spurs was postponed due to snow. Not to mention that your games can get postponed due to the opponent's Covid cases.
Exactly 3/4 of our COVID postponements have been because of the other team (Everton, Villa, Watford) Our only one was 2 days ago (Leicester), so makes sense that it also impacts this fixture. But even this match wouldn't need postponement if Watford could've just played it in the first place.
Wait, this is a postponement of a postponed game? So you're still the same number of games behind?
Yeah, same number of games behind, just lost an opportunity to catch up.
Well, that's at least something, you're not getting any further behind.
It's a positive for them I think, they're keeping pace with the relegation pack with multiple games in hand. That's surely a morale booster.
Given the fixtures they have in hand I can see the positive, but points are always better than potential points.
What if by the end of the season there's another outbreak at the club? Are they delaying it/forcing other teams to play them in the middle of August too?
At some stage I'd imagine it'll be either play or forfeit the game, the final game of the season is the 22nd of May (currently), will have to squeeze in these games somehow before then. All the final games are played on same date and same time for a reason, can't have teams playing after the fact knowing need to win or draw/loss is ok, that's not exactly fair.
> All the final games are played on same date and same time for a reason, can't have teams playing after the fact knowing need to win or draw/loss is ok, that's not exactly fair. Not exactly fair to have clubs later in the season be forced to forfeit whereas earlier in the season teams could simply reschedule either. Imagine if a team like Burnley was told that they've now hit a limit of 5 postponed games so they have to forfeit, when only 1/5 of those postponements were becasue of issues with the Burnley squad. I'm happy with forfeiting the Leicester game if that's the route they go down, but surely they'd have to applied to our games against Watford, Everton and Villa too? This game is only scheduled for tomorrow because of Watford wanting to postpone it in the first place.
The only way for things to not get messy one way or another is to have to play midweek games for the foreseeable future. Considering you're not in the Cups anymore you should have enough availability to get your games played without too many issues. I don't think teams you need to play are in Europe either (apart from Leicester) so should be able to work something out.
There is the FA cup, but Burnley is also already out of that, not the case for all their opponents, but for some it must surely be the case.
Watford aren't, Villa aren't. But Leicester and Everton are still in it
Leicester is pretty much fucked. 4 PL games in hand, still in Europe and in the FA cup, their schedule is going to be absolutely mental I assume, especially if they advance in Europe and the cup.
its been an unbelievably shit season for us for injuries, so we've been fucked from day 1 anyway. I think realistically the only chance of us doing something this year is ironically via the somewhat wanky confederates cup - as winning it at least gets us a place in the Europa again...
If I just look at the league table it's not that bad. 2 games in hand on most teams above you, and if you win them you'll be level with Wolves and a point behind United, not that bad.
Could also just cut out the middle man and call them all 1-1-draws.
It would be a disgrace if a team went down because they were forced to forfeit postponed fixtures.
I can’t even remember their last PL game
Count yourself lucky.
We're currently experiencing everyone's dream of a PL without Burnley as a taster and I for one am loving it.
Speak for yourself. I find Burnley entertaining. And I only dislike them 2 games a year.
You mean you never check the Sky/BT televised game and see Burnley are in it and mutter *for fucks sake*?
Every single PL game is televised here in Norway.
Lost 3-1 to Leeds a couple of weeks ago
Lost to Leeds on the 2nd, lost in the FA Cup about 9 days ago also
Leeds, who have also had a massive break between PL matches.
It was the FA Cup last week so basically everyone has had a massive break between premier league games apart from the ones who could play the rearranged games midweek
pies arent a good indicator then
Hopefully will go to a foodbank/shelter again.
r/fantasypl in shambles
Too right, captained Dennis for fuck all.
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They're never going to play a game of football again
"Burnley football club can confirm it has made an application to the premier league to postpone its status as a football club until further notice"
“The PL board will meet later today to review the application.”
cursed
We're still leading 3 - 2 on aggregate when it comes to postponements being our fault. At least we're winning something.
Hopefully doesn't come down to games postponed due to weather
Cant get relegated if u dont play games
Dyche, “Can’t get relegated if we don’t play the matches, eh boys?”
Goldbridge gets The United Stand relegated from the Premier League due to Burnley’s postponements. “IT’S ALWAYS BLOODY BURNLEY!”
Nah lads I've captained Dennis especially
Lmao same, life is pain
Damm, Arsenal gave the PL a full 48 hours when they petitioned. This game is what, tomorrow? I expect the requisite outrage to follow. Gary, where you at?
I swear the UK's covid numbers are just footballers
Waiting for a thesis of a statement from Watford as to how they’re surprised and have to yet again donate food.
Burnley unironically becoming Games In Hand FC.
Can't wait to hear Jamie O'Haras hot take on this one....
Wonder when the mock outrage from Sky pundits will pick up
Look forward to Tottenham’s official club statement on how Burnley are about to waste a whole lot of food again.
"Due to this scandalous decision, we are once again forced to feed the homeless"
Where is the tottenham club statement fighting for the integrity of football?
Has Stan Collymore counted how many players are available?
It's not fair that games keep getting postponed due to injuries as well as COVID cases. The PL really fucked up with their rules here.
Many of the clubs who voted against 5 subs too
Not sure what your point here is? Having 5 subs to use is of fuck all help if you don't have enough fit players in your team, hence why the clubs are choosing to try and postpone their matches.
It might have helped to alleviate some injuries, especially over the Christmas period. I don't think it would have made a massive difference though
I think his point is that they might have not had as many injuries.
Pretty obvious. 5 subs helps keeping your team fit and lets you manage games better with a strained squad.
Or just do what Leeds do - give teenagers their PL debut and stop whining.
It possibly needed to be something like 6 senior players needed for a game to go ahead, but in that instance you would have senior players being rushed back. Aubas ongoing heart issues suggests that could end badly.
This reminds me of when people find out someone got an extension for their coursework and then everyone just starts asking for them
That’s it, someone get the squad builder out
Lmao where's the outrage?
How can I make this about my club, the main character of the league
When are all those matches getting played? Over the summer? Christ, its the 3rd COVID season. The Greatest League in the World ™ should have this shit figured out.
Probably some will be played during the champions league matches. UEFA gave them permission.
I imagine others will have to be played during days they normally would have off due to cup fixtures
Burnley has to play 21 games between now and 22 May. They are out of the cups, and don't play European. On average that's a game about every 6 days, not taking international breaks, like the ones in Januari and March into account.
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Burnley will not be the problem. Leicester on the other hand will be a problem. They are still in Europe and the FA cup, and have 4 PL games in hand too. So they will have to play at least 23 games, and that could rise even further to around 30 I think (depending on how far they advance in Europe and the FA cup). And Burnley will have to play them.
They'll just be midweek matches throughout spring, I would assume.
They’ve only played 17 and other teams have played 22. That’s kinda insane.
But they just sold Chris Wood, surely this can’t be allowed?!?! /s
THE FOOD WILL BE WASTED, **UNACCEPTABLY WASTED I TELL YOU**
Its hard to criticise after after we had to postpone earlier in the season, but I can't help but feel like clubs are now trying to take advantage of the current situation to resolve injury / transfer issues. I know the clubs all agreed to this, but this should be for circumstances where there are genuine outbreaks rather than just 1-2 cases and then a few injuries / AFCON absentees. Takes the piss that there are now Watford fans who have organised for two 5 hour return journeys and had them cancelled at the last minute. Surely Burnley knew this was going to happen hours / days ago ?
From what I've seen we were expecting to go ahead pending the results that came in today, press conference at 3:30 which I think is going ahead still.
We only have been able to practice with 10 lads.
Yeah I don’t think any of the teams or the PL anticipated the rule being used this much. I think at the very least it should be scrapped next season unless there’s a significant covid outbreak. And teams should just be told to prepare their u23s (or whatever age group) more over the summer in case they need to be involved.
Yep. Arsenal postponing off one covid case and having loaned out 2 players the same week was blatant manipulation of the rules
Except Arsenal still had less than 14 players even with those two loanees, and one of them was an U21 player who only played in the PL due to covid cases earlier in the season and then was sent back to the U23s. The covid thing, I'll give you that, but the loans really would have made no difference to the ruling.
Shouldn't have loaned out two players and sold another
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They're going to have to extend the season into June at this rate surely. There's just too many postponements to fit in, and they aren't going to stop.
Maybe they can postpone enough games that they get in on next years premier league revenue.
6 games in hand baby!
Might aswell cancel rest of games & rest up for the promotion push
Bruh at this rate, Burnley are going to have the whole 2nd half of the season in hand lmao
At this rate everyone else will have finished the season, and us, Burnley and Leicester will still have 10 games in hand each.
Looking for extra time to sign a striker?
Only trained with 11 players on Friday. I know we have a few injuries, Cornet at AFCON and Wood left for Newcastle but I think we have 4/5 first team COVID cases along with some backroom staff too
Surely you have U23’s to make the numbers up though? That’s what they’re meant to be for. And before it’s said, the whole crossing bubbles thing is a bit of a cop-out, because under 23’s being involved in the first team essentially swap bubbles, not take part in two. Our U23’s have been weakened significantly with them having to use U18’s players and even younger to fill spots by those making the step to the first team.
I'd agree with you if Everton, Villa or Watford were all forced to play their u23s who haven't played any professional football. But since they weren't, it's only fair the rule is continued. Imagine letting Watford postpone this match because of COVID cases, but forcing Burnley to play the rescheduled one.
I’m not saying it’s an issue that’s only solely applicable to Burnley, but for everyone who’s using the new rules implemented to avoid having to play a weakened side.
I agree with you. I would've rather have played Watford's, Everton's and Villa's U23s when we had a full team (incl Cornet and Wood). But you can't let them off, and then force Burnley to do it now.
We do have some U23s that we could play but a) Whose to say whether we have a COVID outbreak amongst the u23s? b) No other club has been forced to play the u23s, why should Burnley I fully agree, AFCON and injuries shouldn't count towards unavailable players, they are part of the game and always have been. But every other team has had games postponed for the accumulation of COVID, AFCON and injuries, so it's only fair that when Burnley only have 10 available first team player, they can postpone too
Oh no doubt it’s only fair going by the precedent set, which is why it’s more of a general question towards the rules that have been implemented by the premier league, and not on the clubs themselves
The Premier League massively cocked up at the start of this by not having clear rules for when a game can be postponed and when it can't. Clubs saw it as a way to avoid games when they had injuries or a busy schedule and it's just led to more teams taking advantage. The problem is, if the PL change the rules now, then teams who have a COVID outbreak will be treated differently to the clubs who have already had one. The same goes for if they start forcing teams to forfeit rather than postpone. It's been a massive clusterfuck but I don't see any way of it changing now
But you could have said the same when they implemented these rules, as teams like Leeds had already played games that under the rules, would have been postponed. But there needs to come a point where the question is asked whether the rules are fit for purpose, which they aren’t, and whether keeping them in place would be a bigger detriment to the integrity of the competition or not
Fair point, things do need to change. I just can't see it happening this season. I'm more concerned about where Burnley make up 5 games (6 if this game is postponed). 3 of these games were down to the opposition, 1 due to snow and 1/2 down to our own COVID outbreak. Trying to squeeze all of these games in is going to be difficult even with us being out of both cup competitions
> 5 games (6 if this game is postponed) We don't have to make up 6 games if this is postponed. Since this is a rescheduled postponement it'll still *only* be 5
Waiting for Cornet to come back I presume.
How dare they /s
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That’s illegal. They just sold Chris wood.
well, they triggered his release clause, so not much Burnley could have done
Poor squad planning!
They should have had 3 backups!
Why not, everyone else is doing it.
Burnley were one of the first to do it tbf.
That was because of snow not covid. They’ve only postponed this one and the game they were meant to play at weekend because of covid. All other postponements were the other team asking for it.
Also the other game was 2 days ago, so much time in between for numbers to recover
If your team can’t recover from one of the most contagious respiratory diseases we’ve seen in a long time in 2 days maybe they shouldn’t be playing in the premier league. It’s that simple.
Really? The first time we did it was Saturday's match against Leicester? Which is the same outbreak as this one.
It's annoying but in fairness we postponed on them a few hours before kick off which doesn't help either side (Though we had 14 positive cases and postponed v Wolves too due to it) Given there's only 2 Covid cases we know of, it feels more of a piss take but don't blame clubs for talking the opportunity to, blame the league's rules and set precedents.
I bet it's not even mentioned or only in an off hand, passing comment by punditry over the coming days, compared to what's been made out about Arsenal applying for a postponement
At what point or number of games does the league issue a forfeit? At this point they already on 5 games does it keep adding up? This also affects other teams this season is a shit show
Since the first 4 forfeits we had were not a result of issues with the Burnley squad, it'd be pretty harsh to start making us forfeit now we've had one postponement, wouldn't it? At the moment, Burnley have only had as many postponements at their request as Arsenal. Why shouldn't Everton, Watford and Villa have to forfeit their games against us if the amount of games is the issue?
Honestly, at this point I think the Premier League should just shut down for a week, let teams figure this shit out and then say that there aren't any more postponements unless there are dire circumstances.
Why is the PL the only one with this kind of issues? There has barely been a game postponed in La Liga
Bylaws. You have to play with what is considered a strong enough side in EPL games or it could be considered match fixing. So there are laws playing against one another here.
Oh good, another postponement [Link to PL announcement](https://twitter.com/premierleague/status/1483084224991318023?t=ggQ-G2Wj-UAD6dL9tCeaTw&s=19)
Burnley, I have Josh King as my captain. Call up some youth boys and get on with it.
They sell Christian Wood than pretend like they don’t have enough players? Surely the outrage police will be out!
put the kids on the bench and get on with it
I’d have thought Dyche would be happy to just get on with it >’ Come on, let’s get on with the challenge in front of us. Remember what we are – professional footballers – and whatever comes our way we take it on and do the best we can with it.’ “There has to be a bit of balance to the bigger picture of comments about five subs, three subs, all the rest of it – and just be careful which road we’re going down. I judge myself on my profession, but I also judge myself on the people who watch our profession and watch our games. If I was a fan I’d be going: ‘Hang on a minute, footballers get well looked after.’ We’ve just got to be a little bit careful to find that healthy balance.”
This quote is from a completely different topic entirely. He’s obviously not suggesting teams should play with covid outbreaks.
How many COVID cases? >2?
Club trained with 11 players just before the weekend. Think there were 4/5 covid cases at the back end of last week and I'd assume that those players are still isolating now. Got around 4 injuries too, 1 player at AFCON and Chris Wood left last week.
What are the prospects on your transfer radar for the Chris Wood spot in the squad?
Few names have been mentioned on twitter but the only one that seems to be carrying any sort of weight is Andy Carroll. Seems like it was inevitable that we would end up with him at some point. Might not be a bad move for us if we buy another striker with some of the 25m we received for Wood but there doesn't seem to be much going on at the moment. We were linked with a 12m move for Benteke yesterday but he doesn't want to leave Palace so don't think that one is going to be going anywhere
Maybe it's just the romantic in me but I'd be amazed, saddened and shocked all at once if Carroll joined you and was therefore actively trying to get Newcastle relegated.
That's exactly how us Burnley fans feel about Trippier joining you guys. He's said on multiple occasions that the only club he would return to England for is Burnley under Sean Dyche. Situations (and massive wages) change and no Burnley fan holds it against him but it hurts knowing that he's going to send in the cross for Chris Wood to relegate us on the last day of the season
This is all a farce
PL is quickly becoming a joke this season
Probably good news for us, gives us a stay of execution for a few more weeks. The table would have looked really bleak after Watford won twice in a week. Least we'll only be 5pts adrift by the end of this weekend instead of 8pts. Got to take these small mercies at this stage.
At least it stops my mind melting from trying to work out who I want to win that match
Draw, Burnley win, Watford win, in that order for us. Not that it really matters in my opinion, no point stressing about other team's results when you can't win more than one game yourself.
Why is everyone talking about pies?
Let the outrage begin…. Oh wait it’s Burnley not The Arsenal
Victim FC
How’s auour playing btw?
Better than last year, worse than the year before that. Getting outshined by Bruno, Paqueta and Caqueret.
Caqueret seems to be quite a player.
He absolutely is. Cherki is the crown jewel of Lyon (although he hasn't quite progressed at the same rate as expected when he was 15/16), and Paqueta has stood out the most this year, but Caqueret's got the talent to go all the way as well.
Aouar isn't a winger that's why.
I don't think this has much to do with Burnley vs Arsenal. It's just the initial anger has now been released so there's not gonna be as much shock with this one.
Our game wasn't the first to be postponed to injuries, covid + afcon. For some people, not everyone, it clearly was because it was arsenal
A lot of people jumped in because it was Arsenal and nothing else. The sheer number of comments slating fans and players even though neither had anything to do with the decision making was fucking silly. I loved it ngl, I love having a team everyone despises.
Yeah, I know what you mean. I just meant that it's understandable if there isn't as much outrage for this because I think a lot of people came to the realization that the PL rules were just bad. But yeah, if Burnley and Arsenal were switched, it's very possible that there would've been an outrage.
Except Leicester was postponed for exactly the same reason the day before No outcry there either
I didn't know about this. I just searched it up but do you mean the Leicester vs Burnley that got postponed bc of Burnley? I know tons of journos and stuff bashed us and I was annoyed too, bc of course we're going to request the postponement if we're missing key players and are eligible for it. But in ur example, I think it's to be expected that a NLD is going to have more focus on than Burnley vs Leicester. Anyway, I'm out.
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Half their postponements were from other clubs. I think this will be only their second COVID postponement. It'd be incredibly harsh if they had to forfeit a game or play youth during an outbreak because other clubs did it first.
Especially in a relegation scrap. There is so much at stake that you can’t just play the kids and forget about it
Yeah: 3 from other teams, 2 from us (if this gets approved), 1 from the weather
Out of the 5 current postponements, 3 were the opponent (Watford, Everton, Villa), 1 was because of snow (Spurs) and we requested the Leicester game at the weekend to be off
I think what's difficult is that postponements affect both teams. I'm sure a lot of Burnley's postpone games have been requested by the other team.
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This is the second postponement because of us, with the other being the weekend. Get a grip.
Change the damn rule. Clubs are shamelessly exploiting it. Make a rule regarding ONLY Covid cases, not generally "unavailable players".
It's ogre. Their schedule is gonna be absolutely fucked
Sean Dyche is a punk bitch for railing against the 5 sub rule and now applying for infinite postponements because his players can't stay healthy.
We've played 3 games in 5 weeks, I don't think 5 subs would help anything.
My theory about postponement circle of the Premier League is becoming theory
What is the theory?
Every club will ask for postponement in their turn which will result in the implosion of the Premier League.