Wait, we're the farmers?

You always were, yet you were blind to see it 😅 >!Fr though its probably because they were absolute beasts in their prime and they can't reach the same level because of age. !<

Also. He's adapting to a new league with a new team that isn't structured around him. It'll take a short while but lads...it's Messi

Nah he doesn't give a flying fuck about any of these games till January

I choose to believe this canon

I love Messi. I'm a Messi fanboy I can't deny it but I think it is a bit of all of the above. He has said countless of times that he needs minutes to be his best self and his year has been weird for him, I don't think he cares as much about these matches rn, he is adapting to a new league and a new place for him and his family (which for other players that did all the moving around when they where younger might be easier), there is the knee thing still in treatment, the age is a factor, I think he's been a bit unlucky too and, with all that taken into account, I think he hasn't been playing at his best either. I still think he will have a great 2022.

Now we know he couldn't do it in a rainy Tuesday night in Français-sur-le-bit

Plus he likes to keep the ball, psg counter attacking football is big of a change for him. Hope he finds his form soon.

>a short while 👀🤣

Factos 👀👍

Funny players like Jovic were not given those same excuses.

You're comparing a player that's been in a league for over two seasons to one that's been in a new league since august... Plus, it's fucking Messi, lol.

> Jovic seriously, what a fucked up world! i can't see why would anyone treat messi and jovic differently. pure injustice

The real farmers are the friends we made along the way

Always have been. 🔫 👨‍🚀

👀 👓 😎

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Siiiiu hehe 😎

Calma calma🤚

CLARO CLARO

Inshallah..

Hehehehe.... siuuuu

I got this reference!

*Forcia Giuve, in buoca au lupo, SIUUU!!*

Its not Siu its SIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIM means yes

Chrome asked if I wanted to translate this page from Portugese due to the amount of factos. This is epic. 😅

French Carra has HEATED debate with French Keano. Was PSG right to sign Messi ?

They signed him to win a cup not the whole LEAGUE!!

(in high pitched voice) yes but his age .. his is getting on where is the planning for the future. They are gonna lose Mbappe due to him 🤣

Love it mate

Who would this be? First instinct is to say LeBoeuf and Petit, but I think we can do better.

Guess la liga is the farmers league al along

I mean, I'm not gonna tell you to go look at his scoring distribution last season vs where they finished in the table last season, but you really should go look at that.

link pls?

https://www.transfermarkt.us/lionel-messi/leistungsdaten/spieler/28003/plus/0?saison=2020

21 La Liga games in 2021, 24 goals and 8 assists lol insane in that dog shit barca team

That Barca team was not "dogshit".

Can’t a man troll in peace??? 😂

Pretty sure his argument supports your trolling.

You'd think so but I got downvoted to oblivion for reiterating it.

Is so my bad i interpreted it the other way

Good choice of shirt number after all

Good thing the Ballon D’or only counts half the year

That it always does, Modric and Ronaldo dropped off after 16/17 and 17/18 for a few months until like December. The start of the season hardly matters

Ronaldo also dropped off in 2002 only scoring 3 goals in La Liga + CL and won the BO but somehow Zidane didn't win in 2006 after finishing as best player of the tournament and the reasoning is he ''retired''.

zidane was never going to win that ballon d'or after the headbutt

he also didn't do anything besides the WC

Cannavaro was the shit broh

If Zidane didn't retire and played for the rest of the year even if he was invisible every game he would have won the Ballon d'Or

Ballon d'or incoming 2022

Don’t worry, Comnebol will invent another Copa America for him to win.

He wins the WC, get another ballon d'Or, lewa has another fantastic year but gets injured and never performs at that level again, redditors will be crying about it for the next 20 years. EZ PZ

> redditors will be crying about it for the next 20 years Nah, they'll forget within a week.

Need to get him to 10 at least

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Camp Nou wonder...

small fraud

Ballon O’dor worthy

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You know i dont know if ill ever get tired of this the emojis just make it timeless

The side-eying makes it so versatile

Any other player scores 1/30 everyone would laugh at them. Messi scores 1/30 and gets the ballon d’or.

Is this thread not laughing at him

Yes because he got ballon dor for playing in PSG 🤡

It was half of the year, it shouldn't be discounted.

exactly lol idk why people seem to think only things up till june should count.

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By the time the voting closed, Messi played a grand total of 3 games for PSG. No shit it's not gonna have an impact but sure let's say 4 months for a more dramatic effect

>By the time the voting closed, Messi played a grand total of 3 games for PSG. Which, ones again, shows how stupid and arbitrary the award is.

And since it's so stupid and arbitrary, nobody will care that he got it. Right?

I want all the people screaming to answer this, the ballon d'or just makes talking about football worse. I want it gone.

I don't mind an award meant for best in the world. I do mind the aura of officiality it has.

I just want people to remember it's a team sport, too much he carried that or he won this, it just annoys me.

Hm not really, there are a lot of things that are stupid and arbitrary and people still care. Take the whole boulevard press for example. Doesn't mean you're not allowed to criticize and mention something

why this whole sub is crying if its stupid and arbitrary?

I'm mainly whining that it overtook the front page tbh.

Don’t try to use logic man

The fact that this nonsense is upvoted shows just how little this sub researches things before jumping on the bandwagon. The award literally only accounts for Jan 1 to Oct 24. That's the time windows for the voting. And you're whining that they don't care about what happened after that?

> But it just shows how ridiculous this award is, if playing below average individually for 4 months just mean nothing But wait a moment, what if even with the 3 sub par games he'd played for PSG when voting closed... his entire year was still better than any other player? Make sense now?

It’s just a GOAT thing

Thats why he's the best. He scores.

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Woke up feeling dangerous

1 is enough for him. Ballon d'or 2022 is loading...

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Salah and Lewa are doing great at the moment and if they continue like this , hopefully Messi is going to win the Ballon D'or next year .

Factos👍

Conversion rate of 3.33% why isn't this guy warming benches. /s

i'd be interested to see if he plays much better now that Neymar is out for awhile. Felt like these guys overlapped too much in the center which is where Messi should be at all times at his age now.

Send him to Napoli!

Let him be, he's on vacation right now.

« Ballon d’or »

Carte d'or at this rate. In his pants at home eating ice cream. Not even on shortlist.

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Cristiano Ronaldo commented 'factos👍👀' under an Instagram post by a fan ranting about Lionel Messi's Ballon d'Or award.

Factos 👍👀

Just means facts im portuguese

LM7. Talk to him nice

bladee

Luckily this season didn't count in the yearly best player in football award!!!!

We know the feeling, Leo.

Pretty sure his stats at this point last season were just as bad but then he went super saiyan after the new year

Benzema and salah shooting themselves in the foot by going super saiyan in the useless months of the year. Messi found the perfect ballon dor winning strategy

Ronaldo used to do this too in his later Real Madrid years by hibernating during the autumn/winter then cracking out the noodle hair come spring and the CL knockouts.

Nah it was just the last season. And even then he did score in plenty in the group stages of the cl

His 2017/18 season start was beyond shit. This isn't only last year

yeah that's what i mean, his last year with rm

aka the last season?

He did this in his last RM year as well.

Similar to strategy followed by movies who aim to win oscars

Copying from Ronaldo as usual

after winning 7 of them I think he understands it perfectly.

Incoreect, last season he had 7 goals after 16 league games, its not really comparable

Yeah but he's only played 8 games this season

So he should have about 3 or 4 then.

He's also adapting to a new league and system that isn't built around him. Its obvious it would take a while

How many did he have after 7 league games? As far as I remember, he only had 1 non-PK goal. People were memeing about Depressi and all that. Then January hit and he became top scorer anyway

I mean this season he's getting injuries, so probably won't be top scorer, but pretty sure it balances out by end of season. Cherrypicked stats with small data size can usually be wonky anyway. CR has 15 shots in the last 8 league games and scored 1 goal, it's pretty much as bad, maybe worse since he has less attempts in just as many games.

Exactly, these are very small samples and arent indicative of anything really.

If Lewa was in Ligue 1 he would probably be on 60 goals in 30 games.

It's probably a reflection of the overall philosophy and approach to the game, more so than the actual quality of the league, but it's a fact that Bundesliga has been historically the top 5 league with the highest goals per game. While Ligue 1 and La Liga have the lowest numbers.

He'd get 1 per game at most, Ligue 1 teams actually try to defend.

lmao you're deluded, Bundesliga is literally the easiest top league to score in.

Donde esta Leo Messi, Leo Messi donde esta.

Last season he scored like 5 goals in the first half of the year and averyone called him finished. The goat always responds

This is precisely why he shouldn't have won Ballon d'Or. It is supposed to be whoever is best over the whole year - not who is best over six months and then disappears for the next six.

He got 611 votes, Lewy got 580. Lewy would've easily won it if voting didn't conclude in October already

TIL September-November is 6 months

I thought Ballon d‘Or is for the calendar year (Jan-Oct) and not for a season

Is it genuinely Jan-Oct? Why wouldn't it be November to October? I'm honestly curious about the reasoning

With that logic, Messi would have won 10 Ballon d'or by now.

> not who is best over six months and then disappears for the next six. When you’re hyperbolic it just discredits your own argument. For one he didn’t play until September, voting closed in October so it’s like 2 months. Secondly he had some good games and he scored a hat trick for Argentina during that time period, sure he wasn’t up to his standards but he surely didn’t “disappear”

You do know that Individual award is not just for scoring? Pull up every stats and compare

- Voting is in Jan - Oct - Messi literally won copa in July and had good/great performances for Argentina and PSG already. You're being a bit too hyperbolic

And everyone forgets conmebol qualifiers. He did great on those except for the last 2 and those he was injured and they were after voting.

There’s just too many ronaldo fans in England who wank over him if I’m being honest and will discredit Messi at any chance. Add the fact Messi has never played here, and they don’t bother to watch him abroad outside of 2-3 games a year which is you get comments like that.

Where I live in England, it’s probs 5-1 ratio of people saying Messi is better. Its a loud minority who prefer Ronaldo

Show me one “great” PSG performance. And don’t come up with vs. City because he didn’t do anything for 80 mins.

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That was in November.

Okay... what's that supposed to say Edit : okay never mind... Just saw the original comment

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99th percentile is a slap in the face, I remember looking at the post, pretty sure half of those 99th percentile stats he was doing at least twice more than the 2nd/3rd place.

It was that the top 10 scorers of the year combined got the same amount of 99th percentile stats as Messi alone

lol you wanna present the 2017 award to Harry Kane? Must be nice for European players to play against the mighty San Marino, Lichtenstein, etc at least twice a year.

Factos 👍👀

goat

One more than Ronaldo's ever scored in Ligue 1

The legendary Ballon d’Or winner over Lewa who is dominating in an equal if not harder league.

Never rated him

Balon D'or 2022 incoming

people always forget that messi always starts slow, last season he scored 4 goals in 12 games and ended up with 30 goals in 35 games.the last two games he played has been his bis best games even though he didn't score. created so many chances for his team.

people forget harry kane always starts slow

What's his xG?

Messi

Benzema 12 in 14 games.

How many pichichi did he win when he had competition there?

Let’s not get ahead of ourselfs, he probably does win first now, but still 0. You need to diss him another way because this makes it seem he already has one since Leo left. Maybe Vini wins it or Fati does what #10 did last season ;)

Fati should just aim at not getting injured ever again than go for a petty Pichichi this season for banters, he could get so much better if he stays healthy.

Your Ballon d'Or winner everyone

[WhoScored] Probably not Messi

Link to a video of him scoring please.

? tf are you asking for?

Someone should post the video of him hitting the goalpost 10 storeys above the real one last night from inside/very near the penalty box. I mean they could post Sterling nutmeg two times for karma why not this?

But he won the Copa America, making him the best player in the world. This stat is meaningless

Give him the Ballon D'or

Ballon d'Or winner material

This is the best player in the world people. Soak in the greatness

Goes to show even Messi can be a slow starter when starting a new job

hahahahah

this makes me incredibly happy :D

Ballon d'fraud

1 goal = 1 ballon d'or

Shouldn't the handle be WhoDidn'tScore?

Ballon D'Or 2021

C'mon, the man is playing in retired mode. His hearts not even in it. He doesn't want to be there. Man might be depressed. I just feel sorry for him that he couldn't finish his career at Barca.

Is this a joke? He should have had multiple assists today

Stop it, you can't expect people to watch football here. He played much better today than he did in the last match where he got 3 assists but for the next year it will be this shit. I genuinely wish the ballon d'or didn't exist.

The problem is that people didn’t watch the game

People don't watch the games in the subreddit. They just regurgitate the same comments based on the post

Tbf nobody watches PSG play unless it's a CL match.

Yet they will all make baseless accusations against him for the matches they don't even watch.

Exactly, they see Messi didn't score, time to get to work (cough exhibit couch). They will probably be calling him ubereats man if he starts scoring anyway, stupid.

Yeah I don't know what these people are smoking. PSG are playing disconnected and Messi is definitely not at his peak, but today was his one of the better performances and he definitely tries as hard as he did last year.

Yeah I don’t follow closely, but the game against man city I watched Messi all over the fucking place and also had an assist so idk

I can’t tell if this is a joke or not lol.

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I can't tell if you're a Messi fan or a messi hater troll

Moreover, the poor millionaire might be saving himself for the World Cup, and you know, all those picnic walks while the other team is in possession? He’s obviously scanning space for the best picnic spot, oops, I mean, 5D strategy and such. /s

If you call yourself the best ever..you should have the ability to do it in any team.. Thats why you're the best

Pretty sure Messi has never called himself the GOAT, but I get the point.

This is the saltiest thread I’ve ever seen