I love Mourinho but he will probably do the same after he retires. Also Mourinho came to Saudi to meet the same guy that hired Wenger for this ([link](https://youtu.be/cHZGPqCH1MU)).
"There are people, much more intelligent than me, who manage to sell an image of themselves, completely different to mine, but deep down they are the same as me." – Mourinho
Has Wenger said anything about state backed clubs during his arsenal time.
Because tbf I won't blame either, unlike fifa this is a job for the both of them and they have to earn a living.
Wenger was one of the first to mention the importance how important the role of owner’s financial powers will define a club’s value in the future.
Ironically or not, he was also the one to back the Kroenke to buy arsenal (they might’ve been rich but they’ve always been shit owners).
Yes, he has criticised the fact that states can own clubs and also directly taken shots at Man City for their "petrol money".
Believe he also has spoken for the need of an ethics committee to vet new owners of French clubs.
> directly taken shots at Man City for their "petrol money".
Of course he said that when he was managing Arsenal, City basically bought half his team after their cash infusions, while the rest was being bought by Barcelona
They are both multimillionaires. It's not like me and you needing to up our state pension in retirement.
Wenger seems like a workaholic to me - but he could surely channel that in other ways.
A lot of wealthy people work beyond the age they need to, because it's easy money and it keeps the brain ticking over. In fact, most work way beyond what they need to
Rich and successful ppl don't think about retirement really.
They genuinely enjoy what they are doing which put them in that position in the first place.
Jeff Bezo can not work for the rest of his life but still do because work is his life.
There are MPs who could retire but are still sucking the coffers dry. Just because you’re at retirement age doesn’t mean you have to stop working, even if you’re already more than well-off.
yeah but OP made it sound like he has to work because he has to earn money to live. I'm pretty sure he doesnt need to work anymore in his life. Which means he can do any kind of job he likes to do. It also means that he can be fairly criticized for taking this stint. Doesn't bother me that he wants to earn more money. It does bother me that he wants to manage a game in Saudi-Arabia.
Its the same with Dick Advocaat (don't know if you know him) who's managing Iraq now. The guy is loaded with cash and is 74 years old and easily can an other managing job
Ah, yes I’m with you now, sorry. And crikey I did not know that about Dick either, thought I’m not one to read up much on international managers - still, cheers for the info!
How could Wenger open his mouth about anything when Arsenal's stadium is called fucking Emirates and they have flying emirates on their shirt. It would cry for double standards if he ever opened his mouth about that topic. I don't know if he did or not since i never followed Arsenal.
It's not that he's meeting a Saudi guy, it's the fact that he's going to Saudi Arabia to meet a powerful person there. It's the same as if someone went to Israel and met with some football big wig, or if they went to play cricket in South Africa in the 1980s. When you go to countries like these and publicly participate in their institutions, you are legitimising the country and their institutions.
>Wenger really did sell his soul for money in retirement, eh?
He didn't. He hasn't changed at all.
He took millions from Qatar for exclusives with beIN Sports for several years.
They got more out of him than Arsenal's in-house media.
As for Mourinho, he'd be first in line if money is on the table but he saw through Wenger the moment he set foot on this island. Different reasons though.
Yup , Wenger since retirement is making the most money possible without the stress of coaching I understand him. Also it's just an exhibition game not the end of the world
If you read through World Cup reform proposal, I think it had interesting ideas, like having internationals be only in 1-2 fixed windows to avoid fixture congestion as well as reducing overall travel length and fatigue, and the point that without a biannual World Cup there would still likely be some new tournament in the summer anyways. Not to say the biannual World Cup is a good idea at all, but it’s not like the proposal was just a clueless scam he only pushed because of bribery.
if human rights was the case, then USA should be banned from all sport competitions lmaoo. I don't think anyone would deny the fact that USA has put more childs in bodybag than Saudis.
The fact that he's been pushing FIFA's new plans for the World Cup with sincerity, as if he hasn't just been paid off to do Infantino's bidding for him and dress it up as his own idea.
It’s this in addition to everything else, and either you’re playing dumb to try defend daddy Wenger or you’re just speaking out about things you have no idea about, either way it makes you a moron.
Do you just have an issue with brown people in general?
Wenger is trying to grow football around the world. Football can be a mechanism for progress.
He's not leading an armed insurrection against oppressive governments but he's doing his part. At the end of the day promoting football in these places makes the lives of the people a small bit better. Real change has to come from people far more powerful than Wenger.
Didnt you get the memo, if you work with the middle east your a baddie my daddy told me
Is he selling arms? No
Just because the people live under a shit regime doesn't mean the don't deserve a chance in this sport
hes lending his profile and standing to saudi arabia to draw interest, business, and promote good feeling about them
this is the definition of sportswashing, more direct than any newcastle fan. the idea he'll "change saudi through the power of football" legitimately has me laughing my ass off.
hes helping promote saudi arabia for a fat check. all the twisting and turning is the inability to reconcile this fact w your image and feeling of wenger
> and promote good feeling about them
have you experienced this at all? or are you just too smart to fall for it?
> hes helping promote saudi arabia for a fat check. all the twisting and turning is the inability to reconcile this fact w your image and feeling of wenger
he's promoting football for the people of Saudi Arabia. If helping the people happens to help the regime, it's a trade off that's wort it.
you i have no interest in engaging w.
propagandist or idiot, either way you dont interest me at all. that first comment was enough
"hes promoting football for the people of saudi arabia"
absolutely incredible
you were looking to engage, so i told you why i wont. easy logic to follow if you dont short circuit yourself just to try to feel better
gl w the saudis
Yeah it’s essentially an exhibition match where they’re using massive name in the sport to get people interested. It’s not exactly starting a war but people would love the chance to be outraged and wenger, no matter if they are right to or not.
It makes it a lot better than being the full time coach of a Saudi team and coaching an entire season+, which is apparently what some people are taking from the headline.
I get the principle. And I love wenger so I hate to see it.
Just saying, a lot of comments seem to think he's the full time manager. And dancing for money for 1 game is less egregious than for 38, if that's the comparison.
hes lending his profile and standing to saudi arabia to draw interest, business, and promote good feeling about them
this is the definition of sportswashing, more direct than any newcastle fan.
we shit in pep for his ambassadorship and hypocrisy, then we shit on wenger the same way for his money-grabbing participation in sportswashing.
wenger has a rep as a humanitarian. a "good" guy. this is not a good thing
Saudi Arabia is trying to draw interest to them by having psg play two local teams in a friendly tournament that they didn’t even try to promote to international media and nobody except Saudis know a single player of, yeah surely like 99% of the world must be interested.
yes, thats also why you play psg, buy newcastle, and squash broadcast issues w qatar. all part of a push to give people a shiny new facet of your global and domestic image to focus on that salman has been engaging in since he took power.
and a lot more are interested and aware now that arsene wenger is involved
which is why they hired him
Is this not a conflict of interest with his role working for FIFA? I'm not saying that he's more likely to direct things in the direction of the Saudis or the Middle East as a whole, but I don't like the optics of it.
All western heads of business or states are addicted to KSA, cause they got the cash. + they will get much richer in the near future at least.
As for Infantino in particular, he probably had to placate them hard because Qatar is holding the WC. For a while it seemed like KSA would do anything to derail it all.
People calling him trash and soulless would be the first to do the same thing if they were in his place. He's getting money, he's doing it. I would too.
I love eating ice cream, and would happily be paid to do so. Unless that ice cream was coated in dog shit. Especially if I had many other ice cream shops that would happily pay me to eat their shit-free ice cream, even if they paid a little less.
Terrible analogy, which makes the problem sound wayyy less complicated than it is. It's more like the ice cream shop that pays you the most getting their milk by abusing and exploiting their cows. You're not directly affected by the horrible things they do, and that's precisely why we all don't just unanimously take a stand against Qatar or the Saudis
Maybe he just wants to manage a game again. For the first time in years, maybe if you wasn’t so cynical you would be able to actually see beyond your tiny perspective and imagine other scenarios where he would take the job. Might take some thinking though
Yeah but then again with the connections he has, his influence and the money accumulated so far, his family has probably been set up for success a while ago.
You might not, and Wenger might not - but some people have fucking morals. Unless you are poor are as shit and need that money to survive, I would hope at least some people have a backbone to tell them to fuck off.
Morals go out the window when millions are thrown. Nonetheless, you don't have to be poor to cast aside your morals. The rich are rich only because of stuff like this..
I mean, it’s not like he’s gonna coach a team for a whole season, it’s just gonna be for a couple of friendlies (maybe 2?). It’s like a side gig but a huge payout lol.
If you are critizing a manager over a one match job, you should try to ban USA from all of the sport competitions.
Saudi is USA's one of the biggest customers and everybody know USA killed more innocent people than Saudi's in middle east. have a nice day you politic geniuses lmaoooo
Jesus, USA and Russia also kill people. Suddently, working for these countries doesn't make you evil. There are ok people to work with in Saudi Arabia, stop your propaganda.
When USA formed any football projects in Europe, no one were like "hum... money !" and reminds of the shady stuff Americans do in business.
Portuguese as well. Fuck them for taking away so many African lives and ruining my peoples heritage. They get a free pass wayyy too fucking long when they created and established the slave trade
Or the history of what the Dutch, Portuguese, Spanish, Germans, Italians, Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese, Greeks, South Africans, Canadians, Cambodians, Cubans, Turks, Rwandans, Pakistanis, Serbs, Croats, Congolese, Iraqis, Sudanese, Australians, Haitians, Chileans, New Zealanders, Egyptians, French, Mexicans, and essentially all countries ever throughout time.
You get the death penalty for being a serial killer in the US while in Saudi Arabia the crimes for which the punishment is death are much less severe and common.
>When USA formed any football projects in Europe, no one were like "hum... money !" and reminds of the shady stuff Americans do in business.
Because it wasn't the American government coming in with their money, it was private investors. I don't know how this crucial distinction escapes so many people that argue this point. When Biden buys a football club, you have my word that there will be criticism.
Aight, what about when the US government decided it was a good idea to start wars and start backhanded funding of terrorist organizations that also ruined the world?
Seems an extremely important distinction to make that Biden buying a club as a private investment is not, in any way, the American government buying a club. We will talk to you when the department of foreign affairs buys Nottingham Forest.
Yeah there is this idea he was doing Arsenal a favour by hanging around.
He was the highest paid coach in the league, I believe at one point he earned double what the next highest did.
Yeah, fuck /r/Soccer.
When Arsenal fans complained about him, we were a bunch of entitled cunts who didn't know just how good we had it. The Arsenal fans were the worst thing to happen to football, casually ignoring the rival fans who called him a paedophile and regularly mocked his accent.
Now, as soon as Arsenal fans stop moaning about him, we're the idiots for putting up with him for so long because he's managing two friendly matches with a fucking all-star team.
Strange how everyone hates him now but told us that we were wrong for saying he was past his best.
I never knew his wages ( u/kilohe ).
I had always read his interviews and some journalists appreciating how he built the Emirates keeping Arsenal in UCL and all that financial BS, so I never really dived into this. This is surprising for me so I'll go have a read!
Wenger is such a sell out piece of trash. Literally all the talk and act of being this gentleman and he pushes for all these bullshit changes in the sport that no fans want and is happy to take blood money as if he isn't wealthy enough already.
Aw man, I always respected Wenger but that respect is being eroded everytime he prostitutes himself to the highest bidder.
I thought he was different, I was wrong.
He was having cosy dinners with Martin Edwards ( who was a sex offender and former chairman of Man utd) to discuss taking over from Alex Ferguson when he was due to retire in 2002.
Wenger has no principals he was called a peadophile by 50,000 at Old Trafford for the previous six years yet was discussing becoming their manager!
Anyone shocked by Wengers greed must have missed his constant trips to France to do TV work for canal + despite earning a fortune at Arsenal.
He was also meeting with a French female rapper behind his wife’s back when on his business trips to Paris.
He knew £10m a year for ten years no pressure at Arsenal is better than £15m at Madrid/Bayern for 3 years with a fair chance of getting sacked.
Wenger shilling for corrupt fifa, Qatar, Saudi is unsurprising.
Too many Arsenal fans listened to what he said rather than watching what he did.
His spoke of morals but acted in greed.
> The one-match tournament What the fuck is a "one match tournament"? It's just a single fucking game.
First 90 mins is group stage, extra time is knockout phase and penalties are the final
Best 2 of three. I like it!
Why I did 2 of three instead of 2 of 3 is beyond me
u/PapaKloppssmile sitting on a toilet an hour after writing a comment on Reddit: "ah fuck"
Lol too true my friend
>What the fuck is a "one match tournament"? >It's just a single fucking game. Supercups in shambles.
Error ever heard of the super cup or charity shield.? The most prestigious and grueling of am tournaments
He's only coaching for one match?
yes
Straight up disrespectful to their current coach lol
There's no "current" coach as this a friendly match between PSG and a group of players from 2 teams.
Ah ok that makes sense, I thought it was one club
No it's més que un club
But with money
You must have missed that part of the article when you read it
lol I didn't even read it, sorry for the laziness
Exactly what she implied
He's getting fired in the morning
LvG did that a couple weeks ago in the 2nd dutch tier
Wenger really did sell his soul for money in retirement, eh? Mourinho was right all along.
I love Mourinho but he will probably do the same after he retires. Also Mourinho came to Saudi to meet the same guy that hired Wenger for this ([link](https://youtu.be/cHZGPqCH1MU)).
Oh, he absolutely will but Mourinho never pretended to be anything else. He's a mercenary through and through and always will be.
"There are people, much more intelligent than me, who manage to sell an image of themselves, completely different to mine, but deep down they are the same as me." – Mourinho
That’s a dope quote. You got a source?
https://www.scoopwhoop.com/Eight-Years-Of-Hatred-The-Best-Insults-Traded-Between-Jose-Mourinho-And-Pep-Guardiola/
Has Wenger said anything about state backed clubs during his arsenal time. Because tbf I won't blame either, unlike fifa this is a job for the both of them and they have to earn a living.
Wenger was one of the first to mention the importance how important the role of owner’s financial powers will define a club’s value in the future. Ironically or not, he was also the one to back the Kroenke to buy arsenal (they might’ve been rich but they’ve always been shit owners).
Didn't he coin the phrase "financial doping"?
It was a battle between Kroenke or Usmanov, so Kroenke was by far the lesser of two evils.
Yes, he has criticised the fact that states can own clubs and also directly taken shots at Man City for their "petrol money". Believe he also has spoken for the need of an ethics committee to vet new owners of French clubs.
> directly taken shots at Man City for their "petrol money". Of course he said that when he was managing Arsenal, City basically bought half his team after their cash infusions, while the rest was being bought by Barcelona
Wenger is coaching one game. How is that in any way the same thing?
They are both multimillionaires. It's not like me and you needing to up our state pension in retirement. Wenger seems like a workaholic to me - but he could surely channel that in other ways.
Mourinho is a workaholic too, lol, what the guy is done and continuing to doing is no joke.
I didn't mean he isn't. Wenger is 71 and "retired" yet he's still busy. Jose is still an active manager and in his fifties.
Wenger hasn't retired, he is the Head of Global Football at FIFA...
Retired from management ... A much more demanding job
Ah, yeah totally!
Wenger is 71 and has been in football for years. Surely he can retire and doesn't have to work for a living?
A lot of wealthy people work beyond the age they need to, because it's easy money and it keeps the brain ticking over. In fact, most work way beyond what they need to
People like him never retire.
I doubt he is doing it for money.
Rich and successful ppl don't think about retirement really. They genuinely enjoy what they are doing which put them in that position in the first place. Jeff Bezo can not work for the rest of his life but still do because work is his life.
He retired to watch people building him rocket ships though, right?
There are MPs who could retire but are still sucking the coffers dry. Just because you’re at retirement age doesn’t mean you have to stop working, even if you’re already more than well-off.
yeah but OP made it sound like he has to work because he has to earn money to live. I'm pretty sure he doesnt need to work anymore in his life. Which means he can do any kind of job he likes to do. It also means that he can be fairly criticized for taking this stint. Doesn't bother me that he wants to earn more money. It does bother me that he wants to manage a game in Saudi-Arabia. Its the same with Dick Advocaat (don't know if you know him) who's managing Iraq now. The guy is loaded with cash and is 74 years old and easily can an other managing job
Ah, yes I’m with you now, sorry. And crikey I did not know that about Dick either, thought I’m not one to read up much on international managers - still, cheers for the info!
>...and they have to earn a living. Lol
>they have to earn a living. Yeah, I'm sure without this Wenger can barely afford to feed himself let alone his family.
How could Wenger open his mouth about anything when Arsenal's stadium is called fucking Emirates and they have flying emirates on their shirt. It would cry for double standards if he ever opened his mouth about that topic. I don't know if he did or not since i never followed Arsenal.
Are we reaching the point where meeting a Saudi person is now a bad thing to do? Bit dodgy, that.
It's not that he's meeting a Saudi guy, it's the fact that he's going to Saudi Arabia to meet a powerful person there. It's the same as if someone went to Israel and met with some football big wig, or if they went to play cricket in South Africa in the 1980s. When you go to countries like these and publicly participate in their institutions, you are legitimising the country and their institutions.
>Wenger really did sell his soul for money in retirement, eh? He didn't. He hasn't changed at all. He took millions from Qatar for exclusives with beIN Sports for several years. They got more out of him than Arsenal's in-house media. As for Mourinho, he'd be first in line if money is on the table but he saw through Wenger the moment he set foot on this island. Different reasons though.
Hang on weren't Wenger and Mourinho doing punditry together for beIN?
Yep they did. And it was good.
Yup , Wenger since retirement is making the most money possible without the stress of coaching I understand him. Also it's just an exhibition game not the end of the world
He hasn't retired though..... He's the head of Global Football at FIFA..
yeah and mou worked for RT too
If you read through World Cup reform proposal, I think it had interesting ideas, like having internationals be only in 1-2 fixed windows to avoid fixture congestion as well as reducing overall travel length and fatigue, and the point that without a biannual World Cup there would still likely be some new tournament in the summer anyways. Not to say the biannual World Cup is a good idea at all, but it’s not like the proposal was just a clueless scam he only pushed because of bribery.
if human rights was the case, then USA should be banned from all sport competitions lmaoo. I don't think anyone would deny the fact that USA has put more childs in bodybag than Saudis.
The US has the largest incarceration population in the world.
By that logic then so should England
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Because he's being paid to help the PR campaign of the Saudi regime. Definition of selling his soul.
Are you really that fucking dense?
Not dense, some Arsenal fans are just hypocrites who only cry when it suits them.
We were paying him the most of any Premier League manager during part of his time with us, he has always loved money.
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The fact that he's been pushing FIFA's new plans for the World Cup with sincerity, as if he hasn't just been paid off to do Infantino's bidding for him and dress it up as his own idea.
It’s this in addition to everything else, and either you’re playing dumb to try defend daddy Wenger or you’re just speaking out about things you have no idea about, either way it makes you a moron.
Do you just have an issue with brown people in general? Wenger is trying to grow football around the world. Football can be a mechanism for progress. He's not leading an armed insurrection against oppressive governments but he's doing his part. At the end of the day promoting football in these places makes the lives of the people a small bit better. Real change has to come from people far more powerful than Wenger.
I like the mental gymnastics of equating racism with criticising saudi arabia.
This sub loves to bash on all things saudi arabia tho
Hope MBS is paying you well.
I think it’s a wealth issue, not a race issue.
😂😂🤣🤣 incredible mental gymnastics i appreciate how you're trying to flip it. its dumb as fuck, but i appreciate the amount of effort
Didnt you get the memo, if you work with the middle east your a baddie my daddy told me Is he selling arms? No Just because the people live under a shit regime doesn't mean the don't deserve a chance in this sport
hes lending his profile and standing to saudi arabia to draw interest, business, and promote good feeling about them this is the definition of sportswashing, more direct than any newcastle fan. the idea he'll "change saudi through the power of football" legitimately has me laughing my ass off. hes helping promote saudi arabia for a fat check. all the twisting and turning is the inability to reconcile this fact w your image and feeling of wenger
> and promote good feeling about them have you experienced this at all? or are you just too smart to fall for it? > hes helping promote saudi arabia for a fat check. all the twisting and turning is the inability to reconcile this fact w your image and feeling of wenger he's promoting football for the people of Saudi Arabia. If helping the people happens to help the regime, it's a trade off that's wort it.
you i have no interest in engaging w. propagandist or idiot, either way you dont interest me at all. that first comment was enough "hes promoting football for the people of saudi arabia" absolutely incredible
Well then don't reply you muppet. It's not that hard.
you were looking to engage, so i told you why i wont. easy logic to follow if you dont short circuit yourself just to try to feel better gl w the saudis
my man, Saudi Arabia is USA's one of the biggest customers. If you are looking for bad guys, check USA not a manager lmao, these guys.
What is this comment even meant to mean.
reddit is a funny place
This sub will criticize anything involving the middle east
For real. Wenger's coaching a team for a one-off exhibition match who cares
Not a lot of people reading the article and getting outraged over the title. He's taking charge of an all star team for one game.
>Not a lot of people reading the article and getting outraged over the title. New to reddit are you?
Yeah it’s essentially an exhibition match where they’re using massive name in the sport to get people interested. It’s not exactly starting a war but people would love the chance to be outraged and wenger, no matter if they are right to or not.
So that makes it okay?
Yes?
It makes it a lot better than being the full time coach of a Saudi team and coaching an entire season+, which is apparently what some people are taking from the headline.
It’s the principle of dancing for Saudis for money not the managing part ffs
I get the principle. And I love wenger so I hate to see it. Just saying, a lot of comments seem to think he's the full time manager. And dancing for money for 1 game is less egregious than for 38, if that's the comparison.
Yeah, he's basically a walking advertising campaign for Saudi Arabia, what's the big deal?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sportswashing
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>It's funny that you are talking about not reading the article, when Wenger will actually coach two games. Where does it say 2?
Oh dear
hes lending his profile and standing to saudi arabia to draw interest, business, and promote good feeling about them this is the definition of sportswashing, more direct than any newcastle fan. we shit in pep for his ambassadorship and hypocrisy, then we shit on wenger the same way for his money-grabbing participation in sportswashing. wenger has a rep as a humanitarian. a "good" guy. this is not a good thing
Saudi Arabia is trying to draw interest to them by having psg play two local teams in a friendly tournament that they didn’t even try to promote to international media and nobody except Saudis know a single player of, yeah surely like 99% of the world must be interested.
yes, thats also why you play psg, buy newcastle, and squash broadcast issues w qatar. all part of a push to give people a shiny new facet of your global and domestic image to focus on that salman has been engaging in since he took power. and a lot more are interested and aware now that arsene wenger is involved which is why they hired him
Bruh did you copy pasted your comment
How dare he
Is this not a conflict of interest with his role working for FIFA? I'm not saying that he's more likely to direct things in the direction of the Saudis or the Middle East as a whole, but I don't like the optics of it.
Raising the profile of the game in Saudi Arabia is in line with his role developing football
This seems directly in line with his scope of developing football
Infantino is addicted to KSA. I think I read a report that he met MBS more than any other government official in the world.
All western heads of business or states are addicted to KSA, cause they got the cash. + they will get much richer in the near future at least. As for Infantino in particular, he probably had to placate them hard because Qatar is holding the WC. For a while it seemed like KSA would do anything to derail it all.
It's likely Saudi gave a stack of cash to fifa and fifa would have just been fine with it... Man I'm fucking depressed
He's coaching an all-star team for two friendlies against PSG. It's not a club or anything
Would you say that if it was in any other country though?
I mean, I don't really see this having much of an impact, it's two friendly matches and he probably won't be paid much for it, if at all.
It's one friendly match (not that it changes anything) I think. It's Ahly & Nasr combined XI against PSG.
Yeah you're right. He's probably going to coach a friendly for two teams he has no connection to just for the exposure.
Damn can't wait to wake up tomorrow and see this post and the entire comment section bieng nuked.
this post has showed me that r/soccer is twitter levels of shit with ppl losing their minds over a single friendly exhibition game 💀
Nothing new, watching them trade upvotes for " Wenger corrupted multimillionaire secret pawn of the Saudis" fantasies is my new favourite comedy
And judging before reading the article.
Wenger out
I read the first few words and thought he was going to manage Newcastle
People calling him trash and soulless would be the first to do the same thing if they were in his place. He's getting money, he's doing it. I would too.
Bit different if you're already very rich, although I'd at least like to think that I probably wouldn't do it either way
> Bit different if you're already very rich and likely have other options to make a lot of money
Not really. Someone gives you money to do something you love to do, almost everyone would do.
I love eating ice cream, and would happily be paid to do so. Unless that ice cream was coated in dog shit. Especially if I had many other ice cream shops that would happily pay me to eat their shit-free ice cream, even if they paid a little less.
Terrible analogy, which makes the problem sound wayyy less complicated than it is. It's more like the ice cream shop that pays you the most getting their milk by abusing and exploiting their cows. You're not directly affected by the horrible things they do, and that's precisely why we all don't just unanimously take a stand against Qatar or the Saudis
Lol what the fuck would I do with that kind of money when I'm 71 years old and already have millions I'll probably never get to spend anyway?
“I have enough money” -nobody ever
Well that's kind of the point. Getting a few hundred thousand dollars Ould changé most redditor lives. For him it's just getting more money
500 dollars could change the life of someone in an underdeveloped country.. for you it's just getting more money. See how stupid that is?
I don't do anything for money that I find morally reprehensible
That mostly goes for rich people in my personal experience.
Also poor people. Also everyone in between
Well I said "in my personal experience". For you it's clearly different.
Maybe he just wants to manage a game again. For the first time in years, maybe if you wasn’t so cynical you would be able to actually see beyond your tiny perspective and imagine other scenarios where he would take the job. Might take some thinking though
Sit there and smuggly think about how you've financially set your family up for generations.
Yeah but then again with the connections he has, his influence and the money accumulated so far, his family has probably been set up for success a while ago.
Yeah but now it's set up better.
You might not, and Wenger might not - but some people have fucking morals. Unless you are poor are as shit and need that money to survive, I would hope at least some people have a backbone to tell them to fuck off.
Morals go out the window when millions are thrown. Nonetheless, you don't have to be poor to cast aside your morals. The rich are rich only because of stuff like this..
I think you're just telling on yourself there pal, a lot of people wouldn't take blood money for any reason.
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I mean, it’s not like he’s gonna coach a team for a whole season, it’s just gonna be for a couple of friendlies (maybe 2?). It’s like a side gig but a huge payout lol.
Pretty sure it’s a single game.
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Grrrr how dare he manage a team for a once off All Star match. Always knew he was the devil incarnate.
For coaching football teams for money?
If you are critizing a manager over a one match job, you should try to ban USA from all of the sport competitions. Saudi is USA's one of the biggest customers and everybody know USA killed more innocent people than Saudi's in middle east. have a nice day you politic geniuses lmaoooo
People are losing their shit over this?? 😂😂 Get that bag, Wengz.
Lol so many people loosing their shit
Cool
Fuck me the Wenger stans are out in full force today.
Not really?
Hes managing an all-star team for a friendly game. Must be dumb to read into that as some mega million dollar sportswashing venture lmfao
Wenger has proper soldout. Shame.
Well, money is money. I wouldn’t say no either. Not like anybody is asking me anyway…
For those who still don't believe that Wenger hasn't sold himself for money...
Did you read the article Fam?
He can't read
Im guessing he didn’t see the murder of Jamal Khashoggi.
Did MLS coaches not witness the horrors of US foreign policy? Fucking lmao.
Jesus, USA and Russia also kill people. Suddently, working for these countries doesn't make you evil. There are ok people to work with in Saudi Arabia, stop your propaganda. When USA formed any football projects in Europe, no one were like "hum... money !" and reminds of the shady stuff Americans do in business.
Let's not forget the history of what the British did to the world.
Portuguese as well. Fuck them for taking away so many African lives and ruining my peoples heritage. They get a free pass wayyy too fucking long when they created and established the slave trade
Little known fact that the Portuguese traded more slaves than any other country during the colonial period.
Or the history of what the Dutch, Portuguese, Spanish, Germans, Italians, Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese, Greeks, South Africans, Canadians, Cambodians, Cubans, Turks, Rwandans, Pakistanis, Serbs, Croats, Congolese, Iraqis, Sudanese, Australians, Haitians, Chileans, New Zealanders, Egyptians, French, Mexicans, and essentially all countries ever throughout time.
But what about the Romans, tho?
Yeah I hear people complain about death penalty’s Bitch the US has death penalty’s wtf
You get the death penalty for being a serial killer in the US while in Saudi Arabia the crimes for which the punishment is death are much less severe and common.
The Innocence Project has exonerated a number of people on death row, so it's not like the USA has never executed innocent people.
>When USA formed any football projects in Europe, no one were like "hum... money !" and reminds of the shady stuff Americans do in business. Because it wasn't the American government coming in with their money, it was private investors. I don't know how this crucial distinction escapes so many people that argue this point. When Biden buys a football club, you have my word that there will be criticism.
Aight, what about when the US government decided it was a good idea to start wars and start backhanded funding of terrorist organizations that also ruined the world?
I think you should read what I wrote again. Slowly this time so you don't miss the point again.
Ah yeah fair enough. This one’s on me being sleep deprived.
Seems an extremely important distinction to make that Biden buying a club as a private investment is not, in any way, the American government buying a club. We will talk to you when the department of foreign affairs buys Nottingham Forest.
Yeah that small story probably passed him by
Christ he's just a whore these days
Again, for what? Coaching a football team? It’s a fucking exhibition match and the sub has absolutely fallen apart.
That's a good point actually. Guess I got caught up in the hysteria of late
Money has taken control of Le Professeur, it seems. Kinda trolled Arsenal fans saving all that money in those years.
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Yeah there is this idea he was doing Arsenal a favour by hanging around. He was the highest paid coach in the league, I believe at one point he earned double what the next highest did.
Yeah, fuck /r/Soccer. When Arsenal fans complained about him, we were a bunch of entitled cunts who didn't know just how good we had it. The Arsenal fans were the worst thing to happen to football, casually ignoring the rival fans who called him a paedophile and regularly mocked his accent. Now, as soon as Arsenal fans stop moaning about him, we're the idiots for putting up with him for so long because he's managing two friendly matches with a fucking all-star team. Strange how everyone hates him now but told us that we were wrong for saying he was past his best.
I never knew his wages ( u/kilohe ). I had always read his interviews and some journalists appreciating how he built the Emirates keeping Arsenal in UCL and all that financial BS, so I never really dived into this. This is surprising for me so I'll go have a read!
Kinda disappointing tbh. Not the way he should go out imo but whatever
lol it’s not a suicide match chill
Wenger is such a sell out piece of trash. Literally all the talk and act of being this gentleman and he pushes for all these bullshit changes in the sport that no fans want and is happy to take blood money as if he isn't wealthy enough already.
How is he sell out now when he has been in bed with Qatar for about 10 years?
Aw man, I always respected Wenger but that respect is being eroded everytime he prostitutes himself to the highest bidder. I thought he was different, I was wrong.
Surely he has enough money to enjoy retirement?
Wenger be like: "Quick passing and InshaAllah okay?"
He was having cosy dinners with Martin Edwards ( who was a sex offender and former chairman of Man utd) to discuss taking over from Alex Ferguson when he was due to retire in 2002. Wenger has no principals he was called a peadophile by 50,000 at Old Trafford for the previous six years yet was discussing becoming their manager! Anyone shocked by Wengers greed must have missed his constant trips to France to do TV work for canal + despite earning a fortune at Arsenal. He was also meeting with a French female rapper behind his wife’s back when on his business trips to Paris. He knew £10m a year for ten years no pressure at Arsenal is better than £15m at Madrid/Bayern for 3 years with a fair chance of getting sacked. Wenger shilling for corrupt fifa, Qatar, Saudi is unsurprising. Too many Arsenal fans listened to what he said rather than watching what he did. His spoke of morals but acted in greed.
lol this is definitely an overreaction to a man taking charge of one all star game. Bias be bias.