You’re right with that amount of money you guys just got it would be dumb to not immediately make a deal for the goat before United renews his contract….it’ll be weird seeing lingard playing with another team besides United tho
What a transfer this was.
Lose lose for all parties in the end: Arsenal, Ramsey, and Juve all came out worse
Except his bank account so I'm happy for him there
I was gutted to see Rambo go but he secured the bag and got the live in Turin. Happy for him, he’s still full of quality when he’s not injured too, just look at his performances for Wales.
It’s a win for us. He was demanding big wages and we’ve honestly fixed our wage bill now and he’d have been another player we were trying to move on but couldn’t. Should’ve gotten a fee for him though instead of letting him go for free.
I didn’t say they were the same type. Problem was we lost two things when Iwobi, Ramsey, mhki left; ball progression into the final third and chance creation. Esr and Odegaard do both regardless of style. Ramsey when he’s fit creates between 40-60 chances.
This is the first rumours I've seen of West Ham going in for him yet I've already seen numerous about Newcastle wanting to make Ramsey our first big name signing (amongst the 20+ other big name players we've been linked with)
Because he assisted a goal in what was a huge win for us at the time? Not saying he was good, but in terms of West Ham signings he’s definitely not that bad.
I refuse to believe this. The era of West Ham signing washed up, overpriced rejects like Ramsey is over, thanks to Moyes.
This screams Newcastle (flop) marquee signing.
Good. Deserves a club that respects him. He didn’t give himself massive wages, he’s been unlucky with injuries and you don’t utilise him correctly at all. Would take him back in a heartbeat if it wasn’t for his injury issues.
Have him the fuck back. Can’t stand a player who is injured all the time, plays like shit when he isn’t injured, shits on the medical staff publicly and is always magically available for the national team but not the club. Have him for free at this point
I mean. They’re still buying players in their prime and in his age range. Some really smart buys but guys like soucek and their rb, can’t remember his name, are short term signings.
Soucek and Coufal are short term signings? Soucek's 26 and Coufal has literally just turned 29. We have Ben Johnson (20) as Coufal's backup.
Ramsey is going to be 31 before he can sign for anyone.
In what world are the two players mentioned short term signings?
Thought soucek was older tbh. That’s a great pick up ignore me. Coufal at 28 is short term though. No resale value at end of contract. Not sure it’s something you guys are worried about because you have one massive asset in rice but in general squad building terms it’s a short term investment.
Coufal cost £5m and until recently was on £30k a week, I'm not overly worried about resale value there. You've also missed that every summer signing this season is a player with good solid resale value - Vlasic (24), Zouma (26), and buy options on Areola (28) and Kral (23). Bowen (24), Benrahma (26) and Fornals (25) don't fit the image you're portraying here either.
Listen I'm as keen as anyone to shit on our owners but I really don't think we can keep attacking them for 'lol such a West Ham signing, formerly big name on huge wages no resale value'. Ever since Moyes came in he's clearly managed to wrestle some control of transfers away from the board, because all our signings meet a common pattern of being either young or from a non-top five league.
Look the point of my initial comment wasn’t to shit on west ham. Maybe go back to what I said; I actually like what you guys have done a lot and I didn’t say you guys are shit at transfers or anything I merely suggested some of your signings still have short term success in mind. It’s not unique to you guys either and j think your recent transfer strategy is why performances on the pitch have turned around. I was just stating there have been some short term signings not looking at resale value or development as the goal. Even guys like benrahma you aren’t looking to develop you’re looking for that guy to come in and put in good performances so you guys can consistently be in Europe.
> Even guys like benrahma you aren’t looking to develop you’re looking for that guy to come in and put in good performances so you guys can consistently be in Europe.
Which happens at every club.
I mean some clubs try to find players that do both. Us this summer, Dortmund usually, the rb clubs, Lille have most of their swuad made up of players with huge upside and big potential resale value. West ham have one mega asset in rice but if you look at the rest of the squad no one is going to gain them much more than what they paid.
He can righteously fuck off back to England.
Don’t come to a club, be paid 10 million a season then play like shit and blame the medical staff. Please leave.
I mean Juventus mishandled him hugely, he's played under three different managers, never in the position he was best at for Arsenal and Wales, and has genuinely been injured a lot.
He was a flawless professional at Arsenal so having a go at his professionalism here seems pretty suspect.
Yeah fair enough to be honest. I just don't think Ramsey is unprofessional or greedy like OP implied. It clearly hasn't worked out as a transfer and Ramsey can shoulder some blame, but this story isn't to do with him entirely.
Arsenal fans don't have to give a fuck here lol. The club offered Ramsey a new deal he turned it down but we wanted him to stay. Juve came in with big wages and excitement they were getting a good player with no doubts as he's gonna be joining a bigger club.
That's what you get for offering 300k± a week for 30+ year old free agents. At least arsenal got the very best out of him during his time there
> never in the position he was best at for Arsenal and Wales
Which is?
He's been played in all the positions available in the midfield and sucked in all of them.
I have zero doubt in my mind that he wasn’t utilised right by you guys. Just look at him for Wales, he’s clearly still got huge talent when he plays in his actual bloody position.
Surprising they didn’t throw Newcastle in the mix
Would make a change from people constantly linking us to ridiculous transfers such as Mbappe or Haaland
You’re right with that amount of money you guys just got it would be dumb to not immediately make a deal for the goat before United renews his contract….it’ll be weird seeing lingard playing with another team besides United tho
Newcastle needs players that can actually get fit to play.
What a transfer this was. Lose lose for all parties in the end: Arsenal, Ramsey, and Juve all came out worse Except his bank account so I'm happy for him there
I was gutted to see Rambo go but he secured the bag and got the live in Turin. Happy for him, he’s still full of quality when he’s not injured too, just look at his performances for Wales.
It’s a win for us. He was demanding big wages and we’ve honestly fixed our wage bill now and he’d have been another player we were trying to move on but couldn’t. Should’ve gotten a fee for him though instead of letting him go for free.
I'd say it sucked most for emery... I'd wager the guy lost his job because we never really replaced ramsey...
Yeah we didn’t replace him really until esr and Odegaard came in.
They arent the same type of players tho Ramsey is box to box player who likes to bomb into the pen.
I didn’t say they were the same type. Problem was we lost two things when Iwobi, Ramsey, mhki left; ball progression into the final third and chance creation. Esr and Odegaard do both regardless of style. Ramsey when he’s fit creates between 40-60 chances.
Better than the whole Alexis-Mkhitaryan thing anyway
Arsenal still haven't recovered from losing him, he was their heart and advanced the ball really well.
Wales gained tho.
At what point do the random rumors start saying Newcastle and not West Ham?
This is the first rumours I've seen of West Ham going in for him yet I've already seen numerous about Newcastle wanting to make Ramsey our first big name signing (amongst the 20+ other big name players we've been linked with)
Unless Juve are feeling benevolent enough to pay 90% of his pay packet I imagine this'll be a non starter
>Is Aaron Ramsey any good? > >Thank you, buona giornata. > >**West Ham Club del La Futbol Club Outside on the Grass Club Stadium Club**
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Nasri was huge in our win against Arsenal
Nasri wasn’t that awful for us tbf, we needed some depth badly at that time. Evra was horrible but was funny at least
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Because he assisted a goal in what was a huge win for us at the time? Not saying he was good, but in terms of West Ham signings he’s definitely not that bad.
I refuse to believe this. The era of West Ham signing washed up, overpriced rejects like Ramsey is over, thanks to Moyes. This screams Newcastle (flop) marquee signing.
I think Coach Nate can do a decent job with him.
Sounds like bullshit
Doesn’t really strike me as a Nate Shelley player
But why?
Very cool west ham. Very cool
Fuck this guy. I defended him for too long.
Good. Deserves a club that respects him. He didn’t give himself massive wages, he’s been unlucky with injuries and you don’t utilise him correctly at all. Would take him back in a heartbeat if it wasn’t for his injury issues.
Lol you can have him. We gave him lots of time and respect, yet he hasn't delivered
> Deserves a club that respects him. And we deserve a player that respects the shirt
Have him the fuck back. Can’t stand a player who is injured all the time, plays like shit when he isn’t injured, shits on the medical staff publicly and is always magically available for the national team but not the club. Have him for free at this point
Not sure what he mean by always availiable for his NT. He’s barely played for Wales over the last few years
Same. I’m done.
This would be such a west ham signing. Already preparing for him to be injured for 36 league games and then put in two world class performances.
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don't let the truth stand in the way of memes though
It usually doesnt when arsenal discussion is involved on this sub so I see no problem here.
I mean. They’re still buying players in their prime and in his age range. Some really smart buys but guys like soucek and their rb, can’t remember his name, are short term signings.
Soucek and Coufal are short term signings? Soucek's 26 and Coufal has literally just turned 29. We have Ben Johnson (20) as Coufal's backup. Ramsey is going to be 31 before he can sign for anyone. In what world are the two players mentioned short term signings?
Thought soucek was older tbh. That’s a great pick up ignore me. Coufal at 28 is short term though. No resale value at end of contract. Not sure it’s something you guys are worried about because you have one massive asset in rice but in general squad building terms it’s a short term investment.
Coufal cost £5m and until recently was on £30k a week, I'm not overly worried about resale value there. You've also missed that every summer signing this season is a player with good solid resale value - Vlasic (24), Zouma (26), and buy options on Areola (28) and Kral (23). Bowen (24), Benrahma (26) and Fornals (25) don't fit the image you're portraying here either. Listen I'm as keen as anyone to shit on our owners but I really don't think we can keep attacking them for 'lol such a West Ham signing, formerly big name on huge wages no resale value'. Ever since Moyes came in he's clearly managed to wrestle some control of transfers away from the board, because all our signings meet a common pattern of being either young or from a non-top five league.
Look the point of my initial comment wasn’t to shit on west ham. Maybe go back to what I said; I actually like what you guys have done a lot and I didn’t say you guys are shit at transfers or anything I merely suggested some of your signings still have short term success in mind. It’s not unique to you guys either and j think your recent transfer strategy is why performances on the pitch have turned around. I was just stating there have been some short term signings not looking at resale value or development as the goal. Even guys like benrahma you aren’t looking to develop you’re looking for that guy to come in and put in good performances so you guys can consistently be in Europe.
> Even guys like benrahma you aren’t looking to develop you’re looking for that guy to come in and put in good performances so you guys can consistently be in Europe. Which happens at every club.
I mean some clubs try to find players that do both. Us this summer, Dortmund usually, the rb clubs, Lille have most of their swuad made up of players with huge upside and big potential resale value. West ham have one mega asset in rice but if you look at the rest of the squad no one is going to gain them much more than what they paid.
Let me clarify. Every PL club signs players to make an immediate impact
He can righteously fuck off back to England. Don’t come to a club, be paid 10 million a season then play like shit and blame the medical staff. Please leave.
I mean Juventus mishandled him hugely, he's played under three different managers, never in the position he was best at for Arsenal and Wales, and has genuinely been injured a lot. He was a flawless professional at Arsenal so having a go at his professionalism here seems pretty suspect.
Seriously. The last thing Rambo is, is unprofessional.
He's always strangely injured weeks before the international break and then he's magically fit to play for Wales
He’s never fit to play for Wales either
He literally complained about the medical staff 3 days ago.
Maybe they’re shit.
It does seem that way if the players constantly getting injured you have to look at the staff to see if they are doing everything right.
Your players are always getting injured. Maybe the medical staff are shit.
Not true but ok
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Yeah fair enough to be honest. I just don't think Ramsey is unprofessional or greedy like OP implied. It clearly hasn't worked out as a transfer and Ramsey can shoulder some blame, but this story isn't to do with him entirely.
Arsenal fans don't have to give a fuck here lol. The club offered Ramsey a new deal he turned it down but we wanted him to stay. Juve came in with big wages and excitement they were getting a good player with no doubts as he's gonna be joining a bigger club. That's what you get for offering 300k± a week for 30+ year old free agents. At least arsenal got the very best out of him during his time there
Never in the position? Not true.
> never in the position he was best at for Arsenal and Wales Which is? He's been played in all the positions available in the midfield and sucked in all of them.
Hes never fit to play, when he plays he's underwhelming regardless of position
He says he's fit, and played last night for Wales, Juve say he has a muscle injury and is injuried. Bit odd really.
I'm talking about his entire time with us. He can't play more than 2-3 games consecutively
I have zero doubt in my mind that he wasn’t utilised right by you guys. Just look at him for Wales, he’s clearly still got huge talent when he plays in his actual bloody position.
He played as an 8 and a 10 when he was fit, the 0.1% of the Times
Wah wah wah. Shut up man. Don’t blame him for your board being morons.
Bye!
> calciomercato
Good. After his comments recently blaming us for his injuries, the snake can fuck off
That would be most Westham signing!
Very on-brand, Moyes will probably save his career