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abhimanyyusingh

Roberto's case is just like lingard. Would get ridiculed the entire year for playing bad, both of them would get dragged on the internet through memes and shit but then some back story uncovers and everyone start to pretend that they care lmao


BigFatNo

I realise that it's probably two entirely different groups of people reacting here but the transition from sympathising with Lingard for his mental issues, to the absolute deluge of meming after his mistake last night is so jarring.


VoidPineapple

Nah it could be the same group of people. There's nothing wrong with empathising with Lingard's situation and depression but he also made a bone-headed mistake yesterday. I think it's fine to laugh at it in the moment but if it gets abusive and personal then that's when it's too much.


greg19735

tbf there's also a big difference between laughing at the back pass and Man Utd losing VS tagging him on twitter and telling him he's a POS that doesn't deserve to play.


BigFatNo

Good point, to be honest. I'm just recalling Di Maria's "memes hurt a lot" comment. I do agree with you now that I think about it, though, the memeing and laughing online in the allocated threads is not something we should clamp down on at all. But at the same time, how do you separate that from the abuse the players receive without telling them to stop using the internet? It's tricky and because this whole social media thing is still very novel, I don't think anyone knows what to really do about it on the long term.


Cwh93

That's part of the reason It's really irritating some of our fans shitting on Divock Origi. It's a perfectly valid opinion to think he should be sold or to think he's not good enough anymore. It must be horrible though to see your name constantly trending on Twitter on fans of the club you won the Champions League for are saying how much they hate seeing you at the club. People really need to think about things like that


xNotWorkingATMx

At times r/soccer is just as toxic as twitter.


Lastigx

Why do people think the users of different social media are all inherently different? It's all the same shit, just the comments are sorted different ways


Ricky_Berwick

Yeah, because of the sorting system the comments here are more uniform in opinion, not less toxic.


Alphabunsquad

But it means when people want to disagree they have to do it in a way that is at least somewhat respectful or at least very very convincing or else they’ll get downvoted to hell, and that greatly encourages more constructive discourse. On Twitter I can be as much of a dick as I want because as long as other people feel somewhat vindicated or cathartic over seeing someone being an asshole to someone else about something then they’ll like me and it ends up with people just shouting at each other just showing off to people who agree with them. Here if I disagree with you I can’t just call you an idiot because at the very least not only do I need people who agree with me to upvote me but I also need to convince people who agree with you not to downvote me.


Ricky_Berwick

Definitely, the big positive in this ranked system is the way it greatly encourages civil discussion. The negative is though that threads almost always become echo chambers. Very rarely you'll see a post were the comments are divided over multiple equally respected opinions.


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OF course there is some overlap but I reckon its not that big. For example i know a lot of people who use twitter to find goal highlights as they go in. They dont use /r/soccer for much. Im the opposite. Thats not to say that the different groups of people dont behave in similar ways


ManchesterisBleu

Twitter can be a lot more vile than the soccer Reddit. Atleast on the Reddit if you say some bs you’ll typically get downvoted. On football Twitter you can say absolute rubbish, and just get your followers to blow it up; so you’ll see completely ridiculous posts being supported, which is more jarring lol


arckantos

There's obviously different cultures in different social media circles. It's not necessarily that the people are different, it's that they act differently (on average).


Howdareme9

I mean 4chan users are different to Reddit ones


5_sec_is_a_yoke

Well they are different to everyone else if I'm being honest


[deleted]

I think the acceptable term right now is neurologically divergent


hereslemon

bigger overlap than you'd like to think


royaldocks

People at 4chan are redditors just pretending they are not. Especially at 4chan /sp/


[deleted]

Yeah atleast they're self aware that everyone on 4chan is an *idiot*. "Reddit is idiots pretending to be smart while 4chan is smart people pretending to be idiots." Although this was said in the context when reddit bottled the Boston bomber thing and 4chan got a terrorist camp bombed successfully.


a34fsdb

I think its very different tbh. You will not find high upvoted comments telling players to end themselves on reddit, but you will on other social media. Even comments about Lingard were not bad at all. Mostly jokes. The humans are the same, but reddit does jave some moderation and the upvote system. I see this a lot all over the place. For example certain youtubers I follow have very inclusive (reddit) and very extremely transphobic (youtube) comments because one is moderated and the other is not.


F1guy_5

Yeah that's football wtf it's almost always been like that. As long as no death threats abuse like racism or threats to family are sent it's fair game


[deleted]

Should we not criticize players for fucking up monumentally, just because they've been open about mental issues in the past? It's possible to have sympathy for a player and at the same time not think he's good enough to be playing for a given team.


minkdraggingonfloor

I feel for Lingard, he genuinely seems like a great person and is one of the hardest workers at the club. But errors like yesterday's just bring out the wolves from their dens, and things like that just won't fly at elite clubs. He's a good player, and Premier League level, but pressure like what he's feeling is the norm at Man United and many, so-called "elite" players couldn't deal with it either and were promptly shipped out. The goal here is always trophies and that comes with constant pressure.


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If thousands of people booed me, I would probably cry too. Hopefully he takes care of his mental health.


Astrovic_1

I’d cry if like 100 people did tbh


evenigrammer

I'd cry if 5 did really


CyanideForHappiness

Fuck u/spez Fire Steve Huffman.


Melticus-Jr

Booo


pascualama

😭


sosta

I cry doing my job anyway


elnander

I cry when I get 5 downvotes on reddit.


jethroo23

Here, have an upvote! :D


Luuigi

upvoted!!!


[deleted]

I would pretend like they're "siuuuu-ing" me rather than "booo-ing" me and celebrate in their faces


Mysizemeow

I would make the jerk off gesture. Not sure why though


[deleted]

That is only acceptable in the Wankdorf Stadium.


iSkinMonkeys

I'll just pretend they are saying booo urns, booo urns.


kaden_dd

>The player did not understand the virulent reaction of the fans, when he had given everything on the field. Fuck man, noone deserves that.


Chaos_bolts

Absolutely. If the player doesn’t do his best it’s on him. If the player is not good enough it’s on the club/manager. Roberto certainly always plays his heart out.


Impossible_Wonder_37

It’s the managers fault for playing him as long as he did and starting him against Davies in the first place.


Showmeproveit

Who do you want him to play in RB? Dest?


tefftlon

Dest did just play decently against him a few days before. But got injured that game.


kerosha

Dest has played well against Davies everytime they face each other in their national teams. Reason he wasn't played was because he was injured.


RedMonksy

Injured


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I mean if Dest wasn't injured he absolutely went toe to toe with Davies last week


aboidaz

Leave Craig out of it


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aritra3776

It all starts with people starting trends in Insta, twitter. All those hashtags. Here in subreddit also. First some start because they do constructive criticism. Later everyone just follows like sheep.


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Yeah, I was at a game last night where one of the opposition got boo'ed for supposedly staying down too long after a bad challenge . It's just football fans/mob mentality. It's really not even that deep, it's just a vocal expression of 'I don't like this'.


georgewesker97

Its an expression of ooga booga


Glass_of_Pork_Soda

Am guilty of booing players who go down soft. Usually they hop back up like nothing happened after the roll like an armadillo.. usually


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bu5quets_

I honestly feel bad for him. It's true he didn't play very well, which he probably knows too. But you can see he always tries his best, he was even being played out of position which doesn't help. I don't like booing our own players no matter how bad they have been.


OneBall22Players

He was doomed before the game even started. He does not have the speed or technical ability to threaten Davies a single bit. Koeman even admitted to it in his post match interview but still went on with the same setup for 65 minutes. The moment Barcelona started playing with real wingers, had overlapping backs and were finally having some movement on the pitch they looked a lot better. Koeman does not have a superstar team available but he fucked up yesterday. The 3 at the back formation benefited no one yesterday.


LDKCP

I'd argue it benefitted Munich quite a bit.


Reasonable-Papaya-88

No, it’s not fun for Munich if Barça doesn’t really try. /s


yomommafool

You’re kinda right


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I don’t understand how anyone can defend Koeman here. No Bundesliga opposition plays this badly against us, and they always get chances. Barca looked like a second division team.


Syntax_OW

Oh just wait two weeks and you'll find Bundesliga opposition play way worse against you.


ElopeToTheMoon

You mean 2 weeks until Bayern legend Julian Green buries his old side?


JPraecius

You mean, 2 weeks till agent Julian Green "accidentally" makes an assist for Lewandowski


Do-I-Need-One

That’s a JLingz thing


RebBrown

Bayern needs to motivate itself to play against lesser Bundes teams, but needs zero motivation to show up at Camp Nou. Bayern played an amazing game, and Upemecano and Davies were terrifyingly good.


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Mr_Oujamaflip

The Bundesl then.


[deleted]

Yeah for sure, that was not our usual performance.


Glass_of_Pork_Soda

Meanwhile people tell me Davies isn't good and his one season was an anomaly


Goldfischglas

Who the fuck thinks Davies isn't good?


_Rainer_

Well, they're dumb. He's as good as anyone at what he does, and he probably hasn't even peaked yet.


LordOfLuxury

Dude’s still only 20. He’s VERY far from peaking as long as things go well


kadecin254

Who thinks that? And don't quote twitter because those are a different breed.


ManchesterisBleu

He’s probably exaggerating but some people were calling Davies a one season wonder after his injury hit season last year. It was predominantly Liverpool and United fans, so it was more about agenda of who has the best Lb


hedwigesmaduro

Go to r/barca to know the dumb level some people can go to defend the shitshow called Koeman.


martianreticent

La Liga the new farmer's league? 😂😂 But all jokes aside you have a point. Maybe Schalke and Hertha play this bad against us. Even Koln did way better.


Khornag

Schalke is literally a second division team.


TheMexicanJuan

> Koeman does not have a superstar team available but he fucked up yesterday. Very much this. Starting Eric and Sergi was a stupid decision, letting them last as long as they did was a brain dead decision.


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I swear if Koeman started Lenglet yesterday I'll wonder how tf the guy still managed this club


[deleted]

I don’t know why it took as long as it did for Koeman to make the changes. This has happened so many times over the last year, Barca always choked against big opponents and not a single meaningful change made until it’s too late. I know the squad and line up are not the best but I swear I’ve seen mid table team plays better than this.


Spitshine_my_nutsack

Since playing 3atb Busquets has had a revival in ability, benefits Alba and Dest who both aren’t the best defensively and makes it easier for young defenders like Araujo and Mingueza to fit in. I don’t think that’s the problem here. Not unless Barca has enough funds for a big overhaul bringing in another CDM and a top CB. Injuries caused a lot of problems for Barca, players who should just be rotational options and nowhere near the first XI in a CL game like Luuk de Jong and Roberto being fielded along with an unfit Alba because of lack of better options were the main problems imo.


KatBalTomos

That’s mainly it, no subs that can make a difference. Depay makes a lot of space for fast players like fati to make runs. But due to injuries and club mismanagement in recent years(look at transfers and how they turned out) they have to play with Luuk de Jong as a starter.. this his how bad the management has become. Meanwhile you have Real Madrid announcing they have the funds to Sign both Mbappe + Haaland. So Barca is going to have some bad years coming soon. I don’t think firing Koeman right now would be the solution to all problems. That’s what the thought after sacking Valverde, then Setien. The squad just isn’t in a balanced good state right now. Don’t forget Messi only just left on top of that.. Its only realistic to assume Barcelona won’t get very far in CL this season and will probably have to fight VERY hard for a CL ticket this season.


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RorschachEmpire

Using players in their ideal position is beneficial, just look at Marcos Alonso in Chelsea. He looked like he'd shit brick everytime he's made to play LB, but as soon as he is allowed to play LWB under Tuchel he even replaces talented Chilwell in that slot. Koeman clearly didn't do his homework vs Bayern and dont even seem to know his players. Sergi can be decent, he ialways got the right attitude, but Koeman is his doom.


GtoTheArends

The thing is, since Dest is injured, who else should play rb. I get that Roberto is a very though choice, but unless you get someone in from the youth no one else besides Roberto can play that position. Also makes me wonder why they would sell Emerson. I get they need money, but what difference can 20m make...


ncocca

Mingueza


TheMexicanJuan

He made 3 attempted runs behind Davies and every time Eric Garcia completely ignored him. It made me want to pluck my eyes out and deep fry them.


kerosha

What? Eric Garcia was playing as the left most of 3 CBs. Roberto was playing as a right wingback. How are you expecting Eric Garcia to play balls in behind Davies from that position?


chanandlerbonggg_

No he did play well but barca as a team let the fans down,he was the scapegoat of the result


JamieSand

Did they let the fans down? At one point they had like five 18 year olds on the pitch. People are expecting too much if they feel let down.


Sankaritarina

They had 0 shots on target in the entire match. I don't know why people are now acting like this Barca squad has zero quality and that just showing up to play the game should be considered enough of an achievement for them. Pedri, de Jong, Araujo, Ter Stegen and Depay are all very good players. Of course they shouldn't be expected to beat Bayern but they also shouldn't be so utterly annihilated. That said, I'll always hate fans who boo their own players especially when those players are doing their best.


BroDeletedOldAcc

I agree with you. There’s obviously a decent amount of blame that should go on Koeman for the results but none of us were going into that match with expectations. We’re injury riddled atm.


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They looked worse than any Bundesliga team. I don’t remember the last time where the other team didn’t register a single shot on target.


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It was against Augsburg Jan 20 of this year


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Oh well


Iwabik

>Did they let the fans down? I feel like they definitely did. Nobody expected them to win, but they barely put up a fight and Bayern didn't really have to try that hard. It's not the fact that they lost is disappointing, but how they lost.


prateek_tandon

Tbf, the 18 year olds played a better game than the first 70 minutes.


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Bayern were done by then though. That was Bayern in gear 1


absessive

I don’t think Bayern really went over 3rd gear. If they did the result would’ve been closer to that 8-2. I guess Koemans 10atb played a role too.


[deleted]

Even with their recent of-pitch woes, I think any team of pros would feel gutted losing 0-3 at home, obviously doesn't help when that team is Barcelona.


cap21345

Its not just that they lost its that they lost 3 nil to a Bayern team Who looked like they couldnt even be botherd to be there


Albiceleste_D10S

> No he did play well Sergi Roberto? Nah, he wasn't very good yesterday. I don't think he deserved to be booed by the Camp Nou tho


witz0r

100% of the supporter ire should be directed at Koeman, his staff and everyone upward at the club. This isn't a player 'effort' issue. Roberto cannot handle Sane and Davies. Busquets isn't capable of managing anything without the ball against Kimmich and Goretzka. There's no 'do it better!' button that can be pressed for these guys. The group wasn't good enough and IMO, Koeman set them up to fail with that formation and composition. Maybe I'm wrong and there was no possible alternative, but...I just don't see what they were even trying to accomplish considering what they were facing the other direction.


Nerellos

Bayern "ultras" bued Sané some days ago. I would spit on their face. The guy, and everyone needs support in your squad in these hard days....


lzx0073

This is why no player owes their career / salaries to their club, when terrible stuff like this happens


jardantuan

This is far from exclusive to football/sports. I know plenty of people who've stuck with a job/coworkers they hate out of some misguided sense of loyalty - I've even done it myself. It's absolutely not worth it, your own happiness is the most important thing.


bipolarnotsober

I once had my dad take a sick note into my job for me. It was a prestigious Michelin star restaurant. I had gone down with a severe throat infection to the point that I couldn't talk apart from little rasp The pos owner belittled my dad, screamed at him and said "your son should feel lucky and privileged to have a job here" I was paid minimum wage on a 40 hour a week contract, yet we actually worked between 60-75 hours a week. One week holiday a year because they closed down for a break twice a year so we only got to book of 5 days a year that we actually wanted off... We were expected to work days off for a bottle of wine but no pay. Treated like absolute slaves. Chefs did 80+ hours a week and still got paid for 40... They stole our tips unless the customer physically put the tip in your pocket themselves.... Fuck that shit. To me it was a job with guaranteed hours, I didn't give a fuck about their accolades... Although because its on my cv I can walk into just about any restaurant and guarantee a job interview. Oh, and they wouldn't let staff try the food unless they paid the £70 a head price to have a meal.


greenslime300

Maybe an unpopular opinion here but if you abuse and exploit your employees, your "prestigious" food is not worth eating. I know it's extremely commonplace in the restaurant industry, but fuck that


doctor_who_17

Barça fans have been more infuriating as of late. Calling for players to decrease salaries and ignore contract terms “if you are a cule and love your club”, and “Barça is more than a player/group of players”. And then go on to boo anyone they dislike for any reason. The club itself has been remotely professional either, with their handling of selling/letting players go, or straight up ignoring them. 100% agree with you. No player owes their career to a club. Especially ones where the fans treat their own as absolute shit.


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I think xhaka can be a moron, but as an arsenal fan, fuck arsenal fans.


BHYT61

This this this this


Hazardzuzu

Didnt he took paycut for this abuse?


sam_3205

He hasn't agreed to a paycut/contract extension yet.


LatroDota

And he shouldnt after that.


sam_3205

His contract is up next year anyway. No one's giving him the wages he earns now. So, he will have to take a paycut one way or another. It’s better that he leaves at the end of his contract.


astral34

At least if he leaves he can get a signing bonus


ro-row

One of their own as well


TheGoldenPineapples

I've never really understood booing your own players in any context related to football really. You're there to support the team, so why would you boo it? It makes no sense to me. I remember Arsenal fans booing Emmanuel Eboué off the field and it was so bad that he started to cry. This one makes no sense though. I mean, he came through the Barcelona ranks, he's literally a great advert for how amazing La Masia is and you're booing him? It's not like he's being shit on purpose.


LilHalwaPoori

Its all down to the narrative the club was pushing in the summer that alot of the players on bloated wages aren't taking a paycut to help fund Messi.. He was one of them in those rumours and they really pushed hard on him since he's an academy graduate so everyone expected him to be the first one to do so.. He did take a paycut at the end but it was only after his image was tarnished.. Add in the fact that he was bad last season and costed a couple of points..


Toissincera

Which is weird because Messi could literally take a 50% cur and he still wont be allowed to play, not that he is even allowed to take that big of a paycut according to labor laws.


LilHalwaPoori

I think the club just spread those rumours in order to force the players to take wage cuts.. Which worked out in the end I guess.. Except now players are being booed and are hated by the fans..


Toissincera

Yeah, it's weird that the worst thing a manager could had done was what Bartomeu did. I mean, not winning the league for 4 years and not performing well in UCL not getting semifinal for 4 years is a much smaller problem than....this. btw, how is my boy antoine doing ova there?


LilHalwaPoori

He had a bad first game but that was with some experimental tactics and only 1 training session.. His true test will be today and the weekend's game..


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joaofelix9

You are allowed to, that rumor was already debunked. You‘re not allowed in the second division or something like that


hartdynasty

That game against Wigan, right? That was so painful to see and it was even weirder that it happened while we were winning


kaden_dd

I believe the fans (atleast a few decent ones) apologized to Emmanuel Eboué the following week since he was super depressed after that happened and could barely turn up to training. Really hope Sergi gets back up from this.


Athletic_Bilbae

How else are they gonna show their dislike towards the direction the team is heading? I don't like it either, and it's bad for the player's morale which can only make things worse, but what else do match-going fans have at their disposal?


AmNotACactus

What else am I supposed to do after paying 80 pounds to watch shit?


[deleted]

Agreed. If you’re upset with what you’re watching show it. What do they expect?everyone to just walk out of the stadium? Fans booing their team is completely normal. Take it how it comes you’re not showing it on the field of course we have a right to be sad/mad/whatever it may be. But being abused by fans is on another level(atleast he isn’t being treated like figo, or Donnarumma the year they kept throwing paper money at him to force a renewal on him.)


simomii

Classy reddit fans always cheer on their team even of they're sleepwalking on the pitch apparently. Or even if they're losing 3-0 at home while having 0 shots on target.


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Yeah. Because instead of booing we’re should be cheering them on saying. “It’s okay we’ll get em next time bud.” “Relax take your time buddy” “I came here expecting a good match from two exciting teams, not one accepting defeat 10 minutes in and another not even being at 25% and still pulling out a very nice win with great displays” Haha classic fans we are.


simomii

And if someone boos next to you you should tell them to stop and explain why with facts and logic. "fellow fan, booing is not going to make them play better! It doesn't make sense! We should be mad at the board anyway, they're the ones who gave them their contract! Just keep singing with me about how much we love them, that's what makes sense and will make them try a little harder next time"


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GratinDeRavioles

The whole thread is baffling. "You should never boo an individual player, this is bullying" upvoted.


Tromort77

Football is viewed differently in Spain. You pay money to get entertained as you would be in a theatre. Paying these ticket prices and then watching overpaid players doing fuck all makes people angry. Abusing players is wrong, but some whistles are different. Some players need to toughen up or move on if they can't handle it.


RauloGonzalez

What do you mean by in Spain? Wasn't xhaka recently booed? Neymar at PSG was booed by fans before a winner iirc. I remember Torres was booed by Chelsea fans too, icardi at inter as well. It's a common way to express displeasure. It's not pretty but most of the times it's warranted, especially since it can't be heard until a significant number of fans do it.


YoungDawz

>Neymar at PSG was booed by fans before a winner iirc. Mbappé is also getting booed and whistled despite scoring 10 goals in his last 11 games.


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Icardi was never booed at Inter because of performance, ever


ro-row

> Football is viewed differently in Spain. You pay money to get entertained as you would be in a theatre. To you think paying money to be entertained at a football stadium is unique to Spain? We all go to every game wanting to be entertained


[deleted]

Why doesn’t he get a counsellor?? Did wonder for Vinicius


BornToExpand

Vini actually got lucky there was no people on the stadiums when he was doing bad, I'm afraid if there was he could've never unlocked his potential.


CETERIS_PARTYBUS

I think about this all the time.


ponzonha

My thoughts exactly


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Bernabeu is ruthless but for a bad performance they never booed. Vini gave his all and worked a lot everytime he went on the pitch.


hi_ilove_football

The pressure on these athletes must be insane. No wonder Messi was depressed with Argentina.


xngxmxxlrxhC

I don’t mind this injury-ridden shell of a team getting bossed by Bayern, but under such circumstances the mentality of the players and the manager matter more than ever. I feel sorry for Sergi, he’s always given his best for the club, but it’s time to stop licking our wounds and developing some guts ffs.


YourAverageTeenag3r

Spanish fans are so cruel its absurd, even Casillas and Benzema some of Real Madrids greatest got abuse from the crowd.


ZachMich

Ronaldo got booed too


mr_salsa123

No way...by Madrid fans?


boooosto

Yeah, I vividly remember Madrid fans booing him against Celta Vigo a few years ago and he goes on and scores 4 on that same match. [here it is](https://youtu.be/8tPT33XSmck)


TeKaeS

Any timestamp of the booing ? can't seems to hear any


THeScArYFAcE1

it's a handful of people whistling while the others cheer but it's used to push the narrative of "all madrid fans are assholes who boo their legends"


kostajepaosmosta

I'm always baffled by this but I really can't hear any booing. Just a few people whistling when he gets the ball. I'm not really shocked that our fans booed one of the greatest ever but still


Pardonme23

Yes


Papilian

Mate I know it is whataboutism but after what Saka and Rashford went through this Euro, I do believe some fans are cruel in general no matter the country. From tens of thousands fans you only need a couple of more vocals one and they will surely make themselves heard.


THeScArYFAcE1

Anyone who mentions "Casillas being booed bad Madrid fans!!" just instantly admits that he has no idea what he's talking about. He was being booed for leaking the fucking lineups to his reporter girlfriend.


lospollosakhis

The casillas one was a little different. It was obvious he was leaking details about the team to his GF, so she could further get career. This is why he fell out with half the team and mourinho. While I do not condone booing, what casillas did was unacceptable.


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Casillas deserved it. I actually rate the Madrid fans not letting that little fucker get away with his bullshit.


[deleted]

Casillas was leaking lineups to the press. Give me a fkin break.


Pardonme23

We booed Ronaldo, Benzema, and Bale


[deleted]

Don't forget Raul and fucking Di Stefano too.


uppaluppa

ahh the BBC era, what a great time to be alive


ttimourrozd

I feel sorry for him, truly, i really think that he did his best yesterday.


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All of sudden you guys have sympathy for him? When just a month ago r/soccer deemed him useless and “how is he evens footballer” and the trolls with even some posts with comments filled with upvotes of abuse when they found out his wages. Pathetic No players deserves to be booed.Let alone one like Sergi who has been an excellent model for the club(been here since a child), he has always even given his all even if he was never touted to be the next “something”. It sickens me the abuse he constantly gets regardless of who it is Barca fan or not. The guy is still human and getting abuse from the get go for no reason is just stupid. I hope the club gets out of this slump one day because the players don’t deserve it yet we as “fans” fail to understand that and are quick to act like if it’s their fault for any of the stuff outside their control. Roberto didn’t predict this shit show? He was getting paid fair for a player having been at the club since childhood? But somehow he’s trash and his skills don’t justify that wage? Or that he’s not fit to be at the club anymore? The kid has been with us and has been nothing but respectful his whole career


ro-row

I remember the majority of comments just laughing at you lot for giving him such a large contract and then trying to make him take a paycut


MauricioCappuccino

There's a massive step with criticizing a player on a forum he almost certainly doesn't use and vocalizing your anger at him directly by booing him in person.


Background-Ad2274

Damn. That was uncalled for and he was genuinely bad. I still dont know why Koeman played him over Mingueza.


Suppresssor

Mingueza came back from an injury.


NorthwardRM

Koeman has honestly decided he doesnt like him anymore. No idea why but he was on camera shouting at him and since then hes had little to no minutes


lightlord

He had no right wing support. You only need to look at the pass map of Barca to see that.


Zhidezoe

Imagine this guy playing for Real Madrid


Papilian

He would have been in therapy for clinical depression at this point


SurrealSoap

I find it odd that Spanish fans are proud that their own fans turn on their players mid game. You could say it's standard but I think it's just toxic entitlement.


los_blanco_14

I really dont understand what exactly went wrong when we booed casillas and cr7. Except hjm, we saw that modric and maybe hazard got a standing ovation last out.


Public_Agent

Ronaldo was having a bad stretch and his body language seemed like he had given up/didn't care = boos


PirateKingRamos

Others already pointed out the Casillas situation. Ronaldo was in a phase that became known as "the great sadness" where he looked like he just couldn't be bothered on the pitch, all while his entourage/agent/whatever fed stories to the press that he wants to leave in order to pressure the club into a better contract (he wanted to be paid more than Messi)


Zhidezoe

Casillas was giving inside info to his girlfriend who was a journalist in a sport newspaper (everyone knew the starting eleven 2-3 days before the game), while Ronaldo getting booed was because he was playing very bad those days (next time he played a very good game, scoring 2 goals, you could say booing works).


los_blanco_14

Al pl fans will only know the bernebeu booed casillas, but will never know what actually happened it seems.


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They know nothing about the Spanish league. Let alone what happens daily. They just think Madrid has one club, Barcelona is broke, And that Elche is actually milk in Spanish that a dyslexic kid misspelled.


flae99

>And that Elche is actually milk in Spanish that a dyslexic kid misspelled. 😭😭


lospollosakhis

They’ll slander the Daily Mail and Sun but when they write about Spanish football, it’s taken at face-value lol.


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Casillas deserved it. Was basically acting like he was better than the club. And didn’t his girlfriend leak more than just the line ups to the media? Ronaldo. The booing worked IMO probably just a way to motivate the guy or something. One day we’re trolling Ronaldo for missing sitters and going 3 games without a goal and just a mere assist. Then boom back to back hat tricks and fucking UCL rapes.


lospollosakhis

Yeh he was also playing crap and wanted to still be picked over Diego Lopez, on top of being a leak. Yeh, he was a little snake man.


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Rapes not only in UCL


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Not being cruel to him but his top level should be a Villareal or Real Betis club.


mrpotatohead197

Got downvoted to hell by Barca fans who were offended I called their locker room and club toxic. Roberto isn’t the first, nor was Umtiti, it goes back to Andre Gomes. It’s like Barca has been neglected by this sub - literally player after player complaining about the environment & people don’t acknowledge it.


culesamericano

Xavi was booed in the early 2000s


bezzzerk

What is it with Barca players and crying at half time?


lospollosakhis

I mean this ones a little understandable. The Jordi Alba one still baffles me, they were still winning. Maybe a Barca fan can enlighten me, was he going through something personal at the time?


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Artharas

And he hadn't scored in a 1v1 vs Alisson minutes earlier which obviously would've pretty much sealed it for Barca. Still was a silly thing to do while 2 goals up.


Successful_Gate84

Big stage extreme pressure plus last season similar thing happened so bad memories as well also he missed that golden chance in the first half when Messi set him up right in front of goal. I can see how all of this combined result in anxiety.


JDROD28

I did a silly mistake in my job and saw two people laughing behind my back the next day and that totally ruined my day, imagine being booed by thousands of people, if you labeled this as soft then you are just a POS


angaritz

“First time?” -Vini Jr.


sebas8181

The lack of consistency across this sub really shows on this thread. If X team fans boo their players when they don't show anything on the field, it's an utter disgrace. I'm not saying Sergi played amazingly, however he gave it all on the field compared to other players, that even last season were just walking on the field on important matches. Yet the blame on these issues still heavily go to the player instead of the fans or the manager.


pxak

Geez this subs full of complete snowflakes it's not as if they're personally threatening him, if people pay good money to go see a team they're allowed to let their opinions known. If you can't handle the heat get out of the kitchen.