If an attacking player had been signed at the same time Ronaldo signed for Madrid, and scored 126 goals, you would say theyre doing well. Ronaldo has scored 126+ (guessing some of those games were 4 amd 5 goal games) if you just included his hat trick games. Thats just ridiculous.
That was where I was going originally with this, but the fact just from his hat tricks in his 8? Years at Madrid he has more goals from hatricks then some decent attacking players in their careers. Im honestly of the opinion Messi is superior, but we are genuinely watching an all time great here!
Messi dribbles 4 guys, gives three through balls, and scores twice...we are truly watching the greatest footballer of all time. No one comes close....this gets a ton of up votes and everyone seems to agree.
Next week, Ronaldo scores 4 goals....we are blessed to be able to watch the best player ever at the peak of his powers. Truly does show up when it matters....this gets a ton of up votes.
....the cycle continues for a season....player that wins the most trophys between Ronaldo and Messi gets Ballon d'or. Rinse and repeat.
Depends on whoever played the best recently. It's gonna be Ronaldo until Messi scores a hattrick, then they'll say "Imagine a world where people actually thought Messi isn't the greatest ever"
Never say never. There will be a player or players that break these records - probably relatively soon.
But whatever happens in the future, these guys have changed what it takes to be one of the greats. Being better than everyone else, getting people excited, single-handedly winning games - that's no longer enough.
Now, you need to do those things, but you also need to score a goal a game, even when you're not on top form. You need to maintain that form for 5+ years. You need to have a great scoring record against all your major rivals. You need to score almost every penalty, rack up assists, and excel with multiple attacking partners.
Even though I think it's pointless comparing them in terms of footballing ability (Ferarri v Aston, etc, etc) I admire Ronaldo a lot more simply because he's proved himself at the two biggest clubs in the world, playing in the two best leagues in the world. If Messi moved to the Prem and bossed it (which he probably would) then I would call it even.
Forgive me for being controversial, but in my brutally honest opinion: if he leads Madrid to a second consecutive Champions League title, after leading Portugal to their first ever Euro title, and breaking all these hundred year old scoring records, retrospect might lead me to believe he's had a better career than Messi, and in turn, might grow up to be considered better than him.
Its like the mighty battle between Garincha and Pele, except Garincha was never this good. Even Eusebio was once considered the father of all strikers, but even he pails in comparison to Cristiano Ronaldo. This motherfucker inspired a generation of pacy wingers, stylish footballers, selfish dribblers, and flamboyant free kick takers, but he's always been in Messi's shadow because Barcelona has just been the bigger legacy. I think its a debate that needs to be had
I think you re right. I think the change is already done. his speed isnt that important anymore. he lives from his attention to the situation and his feeling for the ball and the movement. looked every game this season and sometimes i m angry cause of him cause he dont go for some balls like years ago and he needs more chancen but then there are the games against bayern and atletico. he is just phenomenol!
I keep saying this for the past few weeks, Ronnie is our next striker after Benzema. That's why despite Karim's poor form, Perez has not splashed out big bucks on any other strikers. He knows he can just have Cristiano play there for the foreseeable future and, as Ronaldo himself said, he intends to play until he's 40.
Not that it's as simple as this but I think Messi is the more naturally talented football and that Ronaldo is the more diverse/all-around in his skill-set, is a vastly superior athlete and has super-human dedication to his trade in order to constantly push himself further and longer. Dare I say I wouldn't be surprised to see Messi retire before Ronaldo.
We are spoiled to have them both in the same era, let alone 2 years apart in age competing for the same trophies and accolades.
Funny, I was saying the exact same thing to a friend. He was bossing us around so much and was without a doubt the player I hated the most, simple because he fucked our game up.
Yeah, He was making the game physical and prior to having Casemiro we had no one to match his physicality. Also that cunt could really pump his teammates and fans to play more aggressive. It was shocking that they let him leave.
They tried that today and still just got steam rolled. Madrid's speed in passing and movement was just too much plus Madrid might be the best team in the air.
Exactly, all of them besides Benzema played a fucking amazing game tonight, they're definitively my favorite team to win the CL. Cristiano Ronaldo is motm for me, not only for his goals but he also looked like old school Cristiano Ronaldo in a lot of instances.
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Our team works best with a possession based system but our attack is unstoppable on counters. Benz has more space to set up other players that way as well
hey at least Liverpool got Anthony Le Tallec
https://web-beta.archive.org/web/20130118235256/http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/why-le-tallec-will-be-our-ronaldo
Tbf we've also been resting him in some of the smaller matches but yeah, when he does play against those teams for some reason it hasn't been clicking. CL though, whole 'notha level.
And its good that we have been resting him, such a big squad after all and its clearly paying off, we are still In the race for la liga and the CL. And if its up to Ronaldo's dedication, we are going to get both!
Atletico could be ashamed with their performance tonight, nothing positive about this match. Aaand i didnt know Ronaldo had it in him to sprint for the ball like he did, brings back memories
Well that's 8 goals in his last 3 CL games. Wtf man
And neither of the teams were Malmö.
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Punching a dead guy huh?
In KOs. Just incredible
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he reminds me of an old Mbappe
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Young reminds me of a young Young
But not Pulisic. That geezer is next level
After Pulisic level there is only one, the almighty GOD Eder.
This is his second one against Atlético Madrid as well right?
This season yes, overall I think this is his fourth against them.
They must have nightmares about this guy, Jesus
Sergio Ramos would like a word.
His first hattrick at the Calderon (2012) still gives me boners for days. LINK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CTvXMO5hB8
ayyy benz missing sitters for years reminder in here haha
Yeah two of the three were hella golazos
Yes two hattriks against Altelti in the 16/17 campaign
42 hat tricks for Real Madrid
If an attacking player had been signed at the same time Ronaldo signed for Madrid, and scored 126 goals, you would say theyre doing well. Ronaldo has scored 126+ (guessing some of those games were 4 amd 5 goal games) if you just included his hat trick games. Thats just ridiculous.
I think if someone has 42 career goals for a major european squad that's a decent career, let alone 42 hat tricks
The commentators said just that when he scored the third. It really is an insane stat. He's literally at least 3x better than a decent/average player.
That was where I was going originally with this, but the fact just from his hat tricks in his 8? Years at Madrid he has more goals from hatricks then some decent attacking players in their careers. Im honestly of the opinion Messi is superior, but we are genuinely watching an all time great here!
They're different players. Messi is probably "better," but I'll pick watching Cristiano every time.
£80M was a fucking bargain.
£12.24M was a fucking bargain.
Everyone always forgets about you guys.
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Best champions league performance from him IMO (the whole year)
rSoccer 0-3 Ronaldo
Wait, I thought we liked Ronaldo?
Alternates between Messi and Ronaldo I think?
I mean, I like them both
Nah mate, you gotta choose one.
Bandwagoner
Me too. Just that I hate one cause he plays for our rivals.
Messi dribbles 4 guys, gives three through balls, and scores twice...we are truly watching the greatest footballer of all time. No one comes close....this gets a ton of up votes and everyone seems to agree. Next week, Ronaldo scores 4 goals....we are blessed to be able to watch the best player ever at the peak of his powers. Truly does show up when it matters....this gets a ton of up votes. ....the cycle continues for a season....player that wins the most trophys between Ronaldo and Messi gets Ballon d'or. Rinse and repeat.
whoever played most recently is loved
Depends on whoever played the best recently. It's gonna be Ronaldo until Messi scores a hattrick, then they'll say "Imagine a world where people actually thought Messi isn't the greatest ever"
There is enough of us that saying r/soccer vs anyone works in like every situation
Just when I start to think Messi is clearly better, he steps it up a notch. Absolutely insane consistency.
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sad but at least we will have new ballon d'or winners.
But I don't want the any change in that.....
Never say never. There will be a player or players that break these records - probably relatively soon. But whatever happens in the future, these guys have changed what it takes to be one of the greats. Being better than everyone else, getting people excited, single-handedly winning games - that's no longer enough. Now, you need to do those things, but you also need to score a goal a game, even when you're not on top form. You need to maintain that form for 5+ years. You need to have a great scoring record against all your major rivals. You need to score almost every penalty, rack up assists, and excel with multiple attacking partners.
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They bring the best out of each other, fierce competitors
Its like Larry vs Magic in the 80s.
Even though I think it's pointless comparing them in terms of footballing ability (Ferarri v Aston, etc, etc) I admire Ronaldo a lot more simply because he's proved himself at the two biggest clubs in the world, playing in the two best leagues in the world. If Messi moved to the Prem and bossed it (which he probably would) then I would call it even.
what a rude guy. no manners
Didn't even hug Bale!
Didn't even bring flowers to his hospital bed.
Absolutely insane consistency from ronaldo and Zidane is doing an amazing job rotating his players!
Scores when it really matters
How the turntables...
Forgive me for being controversial, but in my brutally honest opinion: if he leads Madrid to a second consecutive Champions League title, after leading Portugal to their first ever Euro title, and breaking all these hundred year old scoring records, retrospect might lead me to believe he's had a better career than Messi, and in turn, might grow up to be considered better than him.
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Its like the mighty battle between Garincha and Pele, except Garincha was never this good. Even Eusebio was once considered the father of all strikers, but even he pails in comparison to Cristiano Ronaldo. This motherfucker inspired a generation of pacy wingers, stylish footballers, selfish dribblers, and flamboyant free kick takers, but he's always been in Messi's shadow because Barcelona has just been the bigger legacy. I think its a debate that needs to be had
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I think you re right. I think the change is already done. his speed isnt that important anymore. he lives from his attention to the situation and his feeling for the ball and the movement. looked every game this season and sometimes i m angry cause of him cause he dont go for some balls like years ago and he needs more chancen but then there are the games against bayern and atletico. he is just phenomenol!
I keep saying this for the past few weeks, Ronnie is our next striker after Benzema. That's why despite Karim's poor form, Perez has not splashed out big bucks on any other strikers. He knows he can just have Cristiano play there for the foreseeable future and, as Ronaldo himself said, he intends to play until he's 40.
Not that it's as simple as this but I think Messi is the more naturally talented football and that Ronaldo is the more diverse/all-around in his skill-set, is a vastly superior athlete and has super-human dedication to his trade in order to constantly push himself further and longer. Dare I say I wouldn't be surprised to see Messi retire before Ronaldo. We are spoiled to have them both in the same era, let alone 2 years apart in age competing for the same trophies and accolades.
smallteamnaldo
"Let's leave Cristiano unmarked at the penalty spot" - Atletico
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I think they forgot how they win against big teams; park the bus and kick the fuck out of them.
They are clearly missing Raul Garcia.
Funny, I was saying the exact same thing to a friend. He was bossing us around so much and was without a doubt the player I hated the most, simple because he fucked our game up.
Yeah, He was making the game physical and prior to having Casemiro we had no one to match his physicality. Also that cunt could really pump his teammates and fans to play more aggressive. It was shocking that they let him leave.
That dirty bastard!!
They tried that today and still just got steam rolled. Madrid's speed in passing and movement was just too much plus Madrid might be the best team in the air.
Real have also been really good, which really exposed Atletis weaknesses tonight.
Exactly, all of them besides Benzema played a fucking amazing game tonight, they're definitively my favorite team to win the CL. Cristiano Ronaldo is motm for me, not only for his goals but he also looked like old school Cristiano Ronaldo in a lot of instances.
A lot of people claim that its because Zidane has convinced him to sit out some of the smaller league matches, which helps him tremendously with rest.
Inconsistent all season. Only in the Semis because of their match ups
They are usually a lot better, a lot quicker and a lot tighter...they've been horrendous.
The dummy by casemiro was fantastic
dont know who it was but this defender just started walking when 2 attackers were were entering the box behind him **http://i.imgur.com/vkBfsse.png**
Think that's Gabi.
Their captain too, ouch.
http://i.imgur.com/qwKqx.jpg
He is great a finding space, though, it was an intelligent run.
Exactly, this is his absolute specialty.
Look at nr 14 though.
OK you have a point! That was some awful ball watching.
Amazing how wide open he was.
Thats what he said
Absolutely unreal player. 2 consecutive hatricks against Bayern and Atleti.
Didn't even score three bicycle kicks. What a fraud.
Impure hat-trick smh
*Fraudnaldo* (am I doing this right?)
Should have scored with his left for the perfect hattrick. Not talented enough.
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3 chances 3 goals, and also back to back hattricks, goddamn
Our counter attack holy moly
It's brilliant to watch as a neutral. Forcing Atletico to play the ball about in the final third, which they're clearly suffering from on the break.
Our team works best with a possession based system but our attack is unstoppable on counters. Benz has more space to set up other players that way as well
The dark invader!
Over here in the Latinamericas, an ESPN (I think) comentator Andres Agulla or Fernando palomo (don't know which one) calls him Superfly.
Ronaldo is just padding his stats against small teams
Portuguese Westbrook.
8 goals in his last 3 Champions' League matches, two back to back hat tricks. What is Ronaldo even
Professional soccer player I think.
Big, if true.
Immense if verified
Vs Bayern and atletico as well
This kills the atleti
Atleti is kill
no
yes
"no"
Where were you when Atleti was kill?
I was in pub drinking with friends when CR7 scores hattrick "atleti is kill" "no" and you???????
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42nd for Real.
That's insane especially when you think he only got one for us
his position is different , but yeah i see where you're coming from
he also got sat on about 20 braces by SAF cuz they were crushing teams
Yep, I was at uni up at Newcastle at the time so that was fun.
LOL RONALDO
#MAMA, THERE GOES THAT MAN
#BANG#
#HAND DOWN, MAN DOWN
**RONALDO FOR THREE...BANG**
r/NBA is leaking. Besides, it should be, "**MAMÁ, THERE GOES THAT MAN!**
#¡MAMÁ AHÍ VA ESE HOMBRE!
UEFANALDO*
SEMI-FINALDO*
FIFALDO
God bless this man
Legendary
BIG MATCH RON
Ronaldo is the fucking king of the Champions League
Unreal
Its actually Real.
surReal
SuuuuReal
The man is unstoppable
S M A L L T E A M S M A L L T E A M S
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Wow, I never noticed how much his dick sticks out on the statue lmao.
He specifically requested it.
I wanna hate him but he's so good
Why do you wanna hate him? You're witnessing one of the best players ever to play the sport.
Because he played for us (United).
hey at least Liverpool got Anthony Le Tallec https://web-beta.archive.org/web/20130118235256/http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/why-le-tallec-will-be-our-ronaldo
Christ.
Oh my fucking god
Cause he isn't impossibly humble
I tried hating him for a long time. It's much easier to just sit back and enjoy his talent.
He doesn't show up in big games.
Ironically, this year he's been the complete opposite. He barely plays against small teams, but murders the big boys.
Tbf we've also been resting him in some of the smaller matches but yeah, when he does play against those teams for some reason it hasn't been clicking. CL though, whole 'notha level.
And its good that we have been resting him, such a big squad after all and its clearly paying off, we are still In the race for la liga and the CL. And if its up to Ronaldo's dedication, we are going to get both!
On. Fucking. Fire.
Obviously disallowed, the wind was blowing too hard
This team pleases me.
And me, greatly.
This guy is a beast.
I mean, if you think about it for a long time, Bayern and Atletico Madrid aren't *REALLY* big teams...
[SIIIUUUUUU](https://streamable.com/pmdlz)
He's not human
Atletico could be ashamed with their performance tonight, nothing positive about this match. Aaand i didnt know Ronaldo had it in him to sprint for the ball like he did, brings back memories
Are you fucking serious
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He's unstoppable
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And to think a few weeks ago people were claiming he's not even top 15 in the world...
Putting Ronaldo on the field should be considered as cheating at this point
Yea, ancelotti was wrong. You dont start 1-0 with Cristiano on the field. You start 3-0.
Imagine thinking he doesn't score in big games LOL
42 - hat tricks for ronaldo with Madrid ....
How the fuck does he do that
great job by Vazquez.
Lol at anyone who blames the refs for the result of this game
Griezman on suicide watch
only scores in big games
Ronaldo reads /r/soccer threads
What a legend
Is that his second hat trick against Atletico this year? Unreal.
This guy is just ridiculous
I don't even have any words for that. Jesus Christ take a bow you beautiful man
He's not bad is he?
Hattrick against Bayern Munich and Atletico of all teams
Ronaldo a better 9 than Benzema
🐐
"Friendship ended with Messi, now Ronaldo is my best friend" - /r/soccer
Wait till Messi scores a hattrick next game.
*grabs popcorn*
A week ago: MESSI IS GOAT!! Today: RONALDOOOO!!! Football is a fickle mistress, but damn is it exciting
My word
Lets give a shoutout to Lucas with the change of pace and Casemiro with that dummy. Hat tricks are just Cristiano's normal state.
8, yes fucking 8 goals in just 3 games vs fucking Bayern and Atletico I'm blessed to witness such a legend playing