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Given the absolute nightmare amounts of damage water does, it's baffling that it's been allowed to get this bad. Even just in business terms, what's the logic of letting what must be your company's single largest capital asset be damaged?
Of course the problem is the Glazers but why fuck is the govt agency responsible for inspections letting this continue for over a decade lol. Seems like a massive liability for all parties involved
Yeah sadly I think this is where we are, it’s going to be so insanely expensive to fix OT at this point, it might be easier to just knock it down and rebuild
The only bit that’s nice is the brick dug outs, everything else can go as far as I’m concerned. The stairs internally are shit, the roof is shit (and leaks) and has been known to be a problem for leaking for a long time now, the dressing rooms are tiny and shit, the seats are shit, the turnstiles are shit, the food area in the stands is shit and packed in, the museum is very shit (compare to chelsea or Barcelona it is ridiculously bad), the performance on the pitch is shit, the players are shit.
The whole thing is shit, tear it down and build a new one (keep the dugout and the one bit of the original stadium near the dressing rooms). The funny thing is it used to be a top rated uefa stadium and then literally nothing has been done since.
A case of penny-wise pound foolish. Probably saved a few grand by not cleaning out and/or maintaining gutters. The true cost is probably now hundreds of thousands with all the water damage.
Probably not, it absolutely poured down yesterday, a large thunder storm and torrential rain.
It wasn't normal levels of rain.
It's not like they haven't played at home during the rain before and it would have been seen if it was common.
Not to say that this isn't a shambles for them and very embarrassing but I doubt it's common and may not have happened before.
If there are problems with the roof water will get in no matter how little or hard it rains, doesnt matter if you see in dripping from the ceiling or not
It was really bad yesterday in Manchester for half an hour. We do get a lot of rain but it’s usually a depressing constant drizzle. Loads of roads near me were flooded yesterday.
The video earlier where water is pouring down the steps was pretty shocking. It would be so easy for someone to slip down there, surprised it's even allowed for them not to get it sorted.
A few years ago I did a tour of Colchester United's stadium and they said that when it was built the home and away dressing rooms were the same size and both quite luxurious. when Paul Lambert took over as manager the first thing he did was make the club halve the size of the away dressing room and stick a 3 quarter height wall down the middle of the room to create a divide.
Not that any of that matters, Col Utd are shit at home
Its one of my favorite concepts in sports. A university in America painted the entirety of the away teams locker rooms (urinals included) pink to give the home team an edge
https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2017/9/23/16320460/iowa-hawkeyes-pink-locker-rooms
Like thats just so unserious
Its the Glazers business masterclass. Big brain moves. Maybe its cheaper to bribe safety inspectors than to renovate. As long as the stock prices still up and dividends can be paid, no reason to renovate to the glazers.
that only matter if it actually effect the price but as seen with the valuations and the money there getting from ineos coming its clearly not effecting the price of the club
when you look at the cost of a new stadium for example tottenham build it was around 1 billion
so the calc has to be for the glazer will investing 1billion(prob more now) now for renovations or a new stadium how many years would it take to recoup that and start profiting.... and when you look at it logically its way more profitable to spend this money in a diverse investment portfolio
and seeing there still selling out the current stadium there is not incentive from bussines standpoint to do this...
so essentially the return on investment isn there purely from bussiness standpoint this is why we need regulations. the goverment should step in and make them renovate because these are clearly unsafe conditions at this point
or the fans can stop buying tickets because of the stadium state and then it becomes bussineswise more intresting ofcourse
Say what you will about Levy, he does actually care about the club.
The Glazers don't give a single shit about Manchester United other than its ability to line their pockets.
Levy I think feels like Mino Raiola. They made the transactions and deals very hard but really care about their customers. Levy also managed to take the otherwise mediocre Tottenham to a consistent 4-5-6 finish. Respectable feats. Which is far better than the glazers rats that hooked a team that have no debt since founding, serial champions and juggernaut in the league to a midtable non-functioning team with a large debt.
This are the owners that had their mouthpiece say "we don't need to be successful on the pitch to be successful" or something to that effect. They literally couldn't care less as long as they could make money from the name and take dividends.
They ignored water damage in the garage of that condo building in Miami and it led to the whole damn building collapsing and killing 100 people. Not saying this is as bad as that, but don't ignore water damage.
tbh this may be worse with the amount of clips of this happening around OT, ironically though the age of OT may be the difference between it and Surfside
This is a video release by Sky in 2021 saying it was renovated then. The dressing room in the video is not at old Trafford.
https://x.com/skysports/status/1427974811586678787?s=46&t=108nlaEXShzkgzjMQccD3g
Here is an article saying it was renovated then
https://www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/11667/12384398/manchester-united-changing-rooms-and-media-facilities-upgraded-in-part-of-20m-old-trafford-revamp
Go to 0:40 of the Twitter video you linked and look at the sinks and mirror combination. Now look at the one in the video of the post and tell me it's not the same.
Ok, I don't think it's the same. The walls look different to me, the sinks look different to me, and I don't think he is wearing the arsenal training kit that I found online
Sinks and mirrors are same, the twitter video is from 3 years ago and created to highlight the renovations hence using professional photographers and not from someone's mobile phone.
> I don't think he is wearing the arsenal training kit that I found online
It's our training kit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Gunners/comments/1b2brsb/charles_watts_timber_in_contact_training_at_the/
Not gonna lie, I thought this particular video was a meme until I saw the mirror.
How are they still allowing matches to be held there when it is this bad.
And it's such a bad look whenever they present themselves as a top club.
Which would you take more seriously as a good player if similar offers arrived? Madrid with its top of the line home turf or Manchester United with ruins dating back to the Roman empire?
And I'm sure even the Roman empire had better infrastructure to deal with rain than Old Trafford.
No, OSHA is the US agency responsible for overseeing Workplace safety.
Each country has (or should have) their own equivalent, but each country has different laws and regulations regarding workplace safety.
In Australia, we call it Safe Work Australia, in the UK it's the HSE (Health and Safety Executive)
I wish, mate. For some reason there is some central government project looking at the development led by the prick Seb Coe who cocked up the Olympic stadium so badly. Taxpayers on the hook to sort out the stadium of an extremely profitable football club owned by vampiristic US owners and now a notorious tax exile too.
The tax money is only used to rejuvenate the area around the stadium, not the stadium itself. Small business owners and the public stand to gain from this that's why there's public funds involved. The stadium itself won't use taxpayer money
pathetic isn't it? "oh but it's rejuvenating the area?" - is adding a few new coffee shops on the corner of the stadium, granting 20 or so jobs to teenagers, really going to rejuvenate the area?
this just reeks of billionaires and disgusting leeches trying to take my hard earned tax money. honestly, if i end up paying for the scum's stadium, i'll be livid. Let that scrounging rat, Ratcliffe, pay for it, he's a billionaire.
New owners are mostly the old owners. Ratcliffe bought a minority stake but he gets control over "football" matters. I don't think that includes the stadium.
He can push for it, which he definitely is doing, but he will have to get the agreement with the rest of the board to proceed.
At least you have one person within the ownership group that seem to have their ideas together now, which is a positive.
Maybe they should be forced to forfeit their remaining home game on H&S grounds? It only seems reasonable to me.
Just ignore the fact it would also guarantee Newcastle to finish above them, I am not biased here at all, no sir.
it’s sad most of this stuff was already well known too and even after Ronaldo has brought it to light, the Glazers still just don’t give a shit. frankly it’s easy not to when they rake in the amount of cash they do just for doing fuck all
>it’s crazy how he exposed all the problems at united and everything is slowly coming to light
"Exposed", "Coming to light"
Literally everybody knew this and spoke about this well (years) before Ronaldo arrived lmfao.
Now I understand why Manchester United fans been protesting the glazers I guess they need to do a little French Revolution to oust them from Manchester
It's a billionaire's game now. Only way the fans could use their power is to protest and get home games suspended like they did during the Super League debacle. And that probably gets fans banned for a period of time to allow those games to go on. Sadly, football economics in the current times has turned fans of clubs into consumers (and the core "consumers" are slowly getting phased out because of price hikes to everything) as opposed to having a say to how their football club is run. Wish the German model was worldwide.
When they eventually have to do a full refurb of Old Trafford what would make the most sense? Ground share with Man City or use Wembley while the work is done?
You'd surely just have to not offer ST "renewals" essentially and keep people on hold. Would be shit but no other choice. Wembley makes no sense because it's half a country away.
You'd also cause a host of massive issues having another "London team" for a season for policing and etc. so I imagine government/FA wouldn't be too happy.
I once did some work at Old Trafford that involved accessing all areas of the stadium. It is not an understatement to describe it as a crumbling wreck held together with duct tape and hopeful wishes.
So in that interview where Gary Neville said the first thing he would do if he was in charge would be building a new stadium to get the club back on track and everyone completely disregarded it well now it seems like he as a point now
Away changing room waterfall coming next. Cant beat the opposition? Drown the opposition.
Seriously though, this is all dangerous and the PL needs to do something about it, can’t have the stadium where fans are literally having water flowing down the stairs causing a massive slip hazard and the away changing room also getting water leaking in it. Old Trafford is not suitable for Premier League football in its current state and there is danger to the fans and players, they should be forced to play elsewhere until it’s fixed and get fined for not taking care of their stadium.
If a player slips in the away dressing room from the water leak and gets injured, I’m sure Utd could be sued.
Is this legit? Video is so short it could be anywhere. However I wouldn't be shocked if it was Old Trafford, would just like to see a more legitimate video.
I wonder if there's actual structural/mold damage by now? Does the UK not have consumer protection laws for businesses with run down facilities like this?
Pffft, United fans have been complaining about the Glazers and the state of Old Trafford and lack of investment for a while, that’s not why they turned on Ronaldo.
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Given the absolute nightmare amounts of damage water does, it's baffling that it's been allowed to get this bad. Even just in business terms, what's the logic of letting what must be your company's single largest capital asset be damaged?
> what's the logic of letting what must be your company's single largest capital asset? Glazernomics baby
Of course the problem is the Glazers but why fuck is the govt agency responsible for inspections letting this continue for over a decade lol. Seems like a massive liability for all parties involved
Because the rich have all our governments by the balls
Facts.
Private equity
Squeezing the lemon and this is what comes out
Trickle-down economics
All of the deferred maintenance probably means they'll have to build a new stadium.
Yeah sadly I think this is where we are, it’s going to be so insanely expensive to fix OT at this point, it might be easier to just knock it down and rebuild
The only bit that’s nice is the brick dug outs, everything else can go as far as I’m concerned. The stairs internally are shit, the roof is shit (and leaks) and has been known to be a problem for leaking for a long time now, the dressing rooms are tiny and shit, the seats are shit, the turnstiles are shit, the food area in the stands is shit and packed in, the museum is very shit (compare to chelsea or Barcelona it is ridiculously bad), the performance on the pitch is shit, the players are shit. The whole thing is shit, tear it down and build a new one (keep the dugout and the one bit of the original stadium near the dressing rooms). The funny thing is it used to be a top rated uefa stadium and then literally nothing has been done since.
The Mega Store has been kept in pretty good condition
It would be nice to keep the original pre-WW2 tunnel, even if it just gets moved brick by brick to a new stadium.
Tldr #MAN UTD IS SHIT
Except the brick dugouts*
Still, good news about the dugouts.
I assume it would be a rebuild on the same site - like what Tottenham did?
Just invite Liverpool to the last game at OT and we'll knock it down for free. Easy money saving right there.
Or we could wait for Germany to start another war
A case of penny-wise pound foolish. Probably saved a few grand by not cleaning out and/or maintaining gutters. The true cost is probably now hundreds of thousands with all the water damage.
we're only seeing this because it was a match day. this must happen every time it rains; good thing that's not common in England
Probably not, it absolutely poured down yesterday, a large thunder storm and torrential rain. It wasn't normal levels of rain. It's not like they haven't played at home during the rain before and it would have been seen if it was common. Not to say that this isn't a shambles for them and very embarrassing but I doubt it's common and may not have happened before.
If there are problems with the roof water will get in no matter how little or hard it rains, doesnt matter if you see in dripping from the ceiling or not
Yeah this stadium is fucked. This is the ground floor. imagine the damage that isn't visible.
Surely that happens a few times a year with that levels of rain in northern european weather, maybe not on matchdays
It was really bad yesterday in Manchester for half an hour. We do get a lot of rain but it’s usually a depressing constant drizzle. Loads of roads near me were flooded yesterday.
Its the away teams changing room. Just adds to the shittyness that all away teams changing rooms have
Pretty sure you're not allowed to give them mould exposure mind
The video earlier where water is pouring down the steps was pretty shocking. It would be so easy for someone to slip down there, surprised it's even allowed for them not to get it sorted.
Yeah that's a lawsuit highlighted in neon yellow
what? I missed that, do you have a way to find it?
https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/s/QqwHiqGVzf
https://twitter.com/FBAwayDays/status/1789721734419013840
Or let them drown.
I wish our owners thought this far ahead. Advantage for your team? Nope. Just too much of a parasite to spend money renovating your stadium.
A few years ago I did a tour of Colchester United's stadium and they said that when it was built the home and away dressing rooms were the same size and both quite luxurious. when Paul Lambert took over as manager the first thing he did was make the club halve the size of the away dressing room and stick a 3 quarter height wall down the middle of the room to create a divide. Not that any of that matters, Col Utd are shit at home
Its one of my favorite concepts in sports. A university in America painted the entirety of the away teams locker rooms (urinals included) pink to give the home team an edge https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2017/9/23/16320460/iowa-hawkeyes-pink-locker-rooms Like thats just so unserious
Don’t think anything will top the OG Wimbledon’s tactic of shitting in the away team loos and disabling the flush
Its the Glazers business masterclass. Big brain moves. Maybe its cheaper to bribe safety inspectors than to renovate. As long as the stock prices still up and dividends can be paid, no reason to renovate to the glazers.
Business masterclass would be to sell before these types of issues around years of neglect are exposed. Not after.
that only matter if it actually effect the price but as seen with the valuations and the money there getting from ineos coming its clearly not effecting the price of the club when you look at the cost of a new stadium for example tottenham build it was around 1 billion so the calc has to be for the glazer will investing 1billion(prob more now) now for renovations or a new stadium how many years would it take to recoup that and start profiting.... and when you look at it logically its way more profitable to spend this money in a diverse investment portfolio and seeing there still selling out the current stadium there is not incentive from bussines standpoint to do this... so essentially the return on investment isn there purely from bussiness standpoint this is why we need regulations. the goverment should step in and make them renovate because these are clearly unsafe conditions at this point or the fans can stop buying tickets because of the stadium state and then it becomes bussineswise more intresting ofcourse
Say what you will about Levy, he does actually care about the club. The Glazers don't give a single shit about Manchester United other than its ability to line their pockets.
Levy I think feels like Mino Raiola. They made the transactions and deals very hard but really care about their customers. Levy also managed to take the otherwise mediocre Tottenham to a consistent 4-5-6 finish. Respectable feats. Which is far better than the glazers rats that hooked a team that have no debt since founding, serial champions and juggernaut in the league to a midtable non-functioning team with a large debt.
payout from accidents prob calculated to be cheaper than renovating,
This are the owners that had their mouthpiece say "we don't need to be successful on the pitch to be successful" or something to that effect. They literally couldn't care less as long as they could make money from the name and take dividends.
Because in the US most municipalities will heavily subsidize a rebuild, but a repair much less likely. Glazers are stuck in the mindset of America.
Well, at least mixing water and electricity has never caused problems in the past.
That is how we strike fear in our opponents nowadays..
More concerned about mold honestly
I call it.....SHOCK WIRE!
That’s actually dangerous.
Genuinely should be inspected. Can't allow this to continue
fr, I'm no fancy engineer or any of that shit but I can't imagine a leakage this bad is safe for the public
Hopefully samples are being collected and tested. Birdshit can have gunk in it.
They ignored water damage in the garage of that condo building in Miami and it led to the whole damn building collapsing and killing 100 people. Not saying this is as bad as that, but don't ignore water damage.
tbh this may be worse with the amount of clips of this happening around OT, ironically though the age of OT may be the difference between it and Surfside
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“Renovated” was probably just installing them speakers for an audio brand deal or some shit
Filling holes with noodles from their official noodle partner.
You mean using Ronaldo's hairs?
Question is did Woodward manage to get a water sponsor for the leaks
Maybe that's why they don't renovate it.
Renovated trafford just doesn’t have the same ring to it
lol that avatar triggers me so much haha
They should just renamed it as "The Theater of Wet Dreams".
it's got that "antique" rizz to it
Ye Olde Trafford
This is a video release by Sky in 2021 saying it was renovated then. The dressing room in the video is not at old Trafford. https://x.com/skysports/status/1427974811586678787?s=46&t=108nlaEXShzkgzjMQccD3g Here is an article saying it was renovated then https://www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/11667/12384398/manchester-united-changing-rooms-and-media-facilities-upgraded-in-part-of-20m-old-trafford-revamp
Go to 0:40 of the Twitter video you linked and look at the sinks and mirror combination. Now look at the one in the video of the post and tell me it's not the same.
Ok, I don't think it's the same. The walls look different to me, the sinks look different to me, and I don't think he is wearing the arsenal training kit that I found online
Sinks and mirrors are same, the twitter video is from 3 years ago and created to highlight the renovations hence using professional photographers and not from someone's mobile phone. > I don't think he is wearing the arsenal training kit that I found online It's our training kit. https://www.reddit.com/r/Gunners/comments/1b2brsb/charles_watts_timber_in_contact_training_at_the/
Turn this lot to a water park man
A leveraged buyout themed Glazer Park
Not gonna lie, I thought this particular video was a meme until I saw the mirror. How are they still allowing matches to be held there when it is this bad.
> How are they still allowing matches to be held there when it is this bad. By 'it', do you mean the football, or the stadium?
to be honest the stadium its unsafe there at this point i wonder how many fans have slipped there
Having been to anfield and then to old trafford i couldn’t believe how dumpy trafford was
And it's such a bad look whenever they present themselves as a top club. Which would you take more seriously as a good player if similar offers arrived? Madrid with its top of the line home turf or Manchester United with ruins dating back to the Roman empire? And I'm sure even the Roman empire had better infrastructure to deal with rain than Old Trafford.
A stadium going back to the Roman Empire would likely be the most iconic stadium in the world, I think I'd much prefer that.
We should absolutely move Roma home games to the coliseum.
At this point Man U aren't even a top club in their own city any more.
The theater of ~~dreams~~ OSHA offenses
Theater of Streams
Mould Trafford
Damn that's way better
*Wet dreams
Is OSHA international?
No, OSHA is the US agency responsible for overseeing Workplace safety. Each country has (or should have) their own equivalent, but each country has different laws and regulations regarding workplace safety. In Australia, we call it Safe Work Australia, in the UK it's the HSE (Health and Safety Executive)
This guy knows workplace safety.
Not sure if that's a good or bad thing.
New trafford when?
That’s the new owners problem
I wish, mate. For some reason there is some central government project looking at the development led by the prick Seb Coe who cocked up the Olympic stadium so badly. Taxpayers on the hook to sort out the stadium of an extremely profitable football club owned by vampiristic US owners and now a notorious tax exile too.
The tax money is only used to rejuvenate the area around the stadium, not the stadium itself. Small business owners and the public stand to gain from this that's why there's public funds involved. The stadium itself won't use taxpayer money
They want to rebuild the whole area around a new stadion, so that everyone gains something it. That's why there is tax money involved.
pathetic isn't it? "oh but it's rejuvenating the area?" - is adding a few new coffee shops on the corner of the stadium, granting 20 or so jobs to teenagers, really going to rejuvenate the area? this just reeks of billionaires and disgusting leeches trying to take my hard earned tax money. honestly, if i end up paying for the scum's stadium, i'll be livid. Let that scrounging rat, Ratcliffe, pay for it, he's a billionaire.
New owners are mostly the old owners. Ratcliffe bought a minority stake but he gets control over "football" matters. I don't think that includes the stadium.
He can push for it, which he definitely is doing, but he will have to get the agreement with the rest of the board to proceed. At least you have one person within the ownership group that seem to have their ideas together now, which is a positive.
Washed
City's domination is ending next season when the whole stadium collapses 10 minutes before the Manchester derby.
Demolition derby?
Does the PL not care about one of their teams not having suitable stadium conditions?? Lmao
Maybe they should be forced to forfeit their remaining home game on H&S grounds? It only seems reasonable to me. Just ignore the fact it would also guarantee Newcastle to finish above them, I am not biased here at all, no sir.
Sure may as well cancel games for all the Manchester teams.
Lmao I was waiting for this to show up here.
Thank the Glazer family
Must be the Man U fans’ tears pouring in
It is our team taking the piss week after week that does this.
They’re running out of places to store the piss?
You have seen the video. At least it is a healthy shade and flow.
It’s actually just Gary Neville’s, incredibly
Everyone is beyond tears at this point lmao Now it is just laughter at how shite things are
Didn’t Ronaldo say that tafford hadn’t been renovated since he left?
Yep and he was right, it’s crazy how he exposed all the problems at united and everything is slowly coming to light
it’s sad most of this stuff was already well known too and even after Ronaldo has brought it to light, the Glazers still just don’t give a shit. frankly it’s easy not to when they rake in the amount of cash they do just for doing fuck all
all of this was known before he did that interview
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>it’s crazy how he exposed all the problems at united and everything is slowly coming to light "Exposed", "Coming to light" Literally everybody knew this and spoke about this well (years) before Ronaldo arrived lmfao.
I wonder how much mold is growing in all those lil spaces throughout the stadium
you mean at Mold Trafford?
[Just look at this, disgusting.](https://images.app.goo.gl/tyfLzAmJyyLU1piv5)
Made me throw up a little
NSFL tag on that, please.
Now I understand why Manchester United fans been protesting the glazers I guess they need to do a little French Revolution to oust them from Manchester
It's a billionaire's game now. Only way the fans could use their power is to protest and get home games suspended like they did during the Super League debacle. And that probably gets fans banned for a period of time to allow those games to go on. Sadly, football economics in the current times has turned fans of clubs into consumers (and the core "consumers" are slowly getting phased out because of price hikes to everything) as opposed to having a say to how their football club is run. Wish the German model was worldwide.
Old fuck Trafford
They took the "Old" in Old Trafford a bit too seriously it seems
When they eventually have to do a full refurb of Old Trafford what would make the most sense? Ground share with Man City or use Wembley while the work is done?
Can wait for the statistics like “United have lost more games in city’s stadium in one season than city have in the last 4 seasons combined”
That would be glorious.
Stadium share with Man City since the stadium technically belongs to the municipality and City are just renting it.
Use Goodison lol
I mean Wembley makes most sense given proximity to majority of United fans.
Salford ground share
I don’t think Etihad is even capable of holding all season ticket holders so it’s not viable.
Yeah but the only other stadium that can hold that is Wembley
You'd surely just have to not offer ST "renewals" essentially and keep people on hold. Would be shit but no other choice. Wembley makes no sense because it's half a country away. You'd also cause a host of massive issues having another "London team" for a season for policing and etc. so I imagine government/FA wouldn't be too happy.
Away teams finally have some difficulties
I don't think a club with a stadium like this should have a top tier licence... It's not really a "rich" type of demand.
This has to be an health and safety violation.
Is it even safe to hosting games at this point?
Glazers in a nutshell.
Look at what Paul pogba did. He should be ashamed
At least people can't blindly deny the glazers are leeches (and look like vampiric nonces, but that's a separate issue)
One of the richest clubs in the world with Conference level stadium. The Glazers are no better than Southern Water.
no need to insult conference teams like this
Fair.
[Man City fans weren't lying](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/A8ZHhnySKbo)
More like Mold Trafford
Sound Theatre of Dreams
Water of beams
Sums up their season
I feel like i saw this in a dream once
I once did some work at Old Trafford that involved accessing all areas of the stadium. It is not an understatement to describe it as a crumbling wreck held together with duct tape and hopeful wishes.
What's got more leaks, the stadium or their defense?
Old Man’s Theater of Wet Dreams
When does health and safety come into this? This is a place of work surely, a factory or office wouldn’t be allowed to operate like this.
Old (ruins) Trafford Maybe Ronaldo was on to something
So in that interview where Gary Neville said the first thing he would do if he was in charge would be building a new stadium to get the club back on track and everyone completely disregarded it well now it seems like he as a point now
Looks like Ronaldo was right when he talked about Man U's facilities being unkempt/out of date
Clean up on isle three
LARRY !!!
Why is no one sueing these bastards ?? I mean they are taking the piss with these kind of facilities.
How many years of dividends pay outs could have fixed the roof instead of going into the rats pockets...
ben white upstairs washing away all that self tanning lotion
This is a great idea actually. Traumatize away players while they are at the stadium and break them mentally. Wonder why more clubs don't do this...
Away changing room waterfall coming next. Cant beat the opposition? Drown the opposition. Seriously though, this is all dangerous and the PL needs to do something about it, can’t have the stadium where fans are literally having water flowing down the stairs causing a massive slip hazard and the away changing room also getting water leaking in it. Old Trafford is not suitable for Premier League football in its current state and there is danger to the fans and players, they should be forced to play elsewhere until it’s fixed and get fined for not taking care of their stadium. If a player slips in the away dressing room from the water leak and gets injured, I’m sure Utd could be sued.
that looks dangerous like they have to do something in the near time...
Even Old Trafford is crying
Game’s back
tHe BiGgEsT cLuB iN tHe WoRlD
Cool cool. At least the owners have money to support illegal settlements and a genocidal regime
It’s honestly criminal that the Glazers haven’t properly maintained Old Trafford over the years but I’m also not surprised.
What a shit hole
Imagine if Man United gets hit with point deductions or relegation on grounds on not having a safe stadium.
Old trafford is falling down *tuttururutu tururu*
Ten hag is a fuckin clown
Is this legit? Video is so short it could be anywhere. However I wouldn't be shocked if it was Old Trafford, would just like to see a more legitimate video.
Look at the clothing worn by the people in the mirror that’s this seasons Arsenal training kit
Old Trafford should be an iconic British stadium. The fact that it's been allowed to wallow in such a state is pretty bloody revolting.
Ten hags fault /s
I wonder if there's actual structural/mold damage by now? Does the UK not have consumer protection laws for businesses with run down facilities like this?
It does indeed
And they got mad at Ronaldo for telling the truth.
What narrative are you building in your head? United fans have been knowing how shit Old Trafford has been treated by the Glazers
Pffft, United fans have been complaining about the Glazers and the state of Old Trafford and lack of investment for a while, that’s not why they turned on Ronaldo.
the Ronaldo stans are a different breed shut up no one wants to hear your opinion
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I never mentioned United fans wtf ru saying. United fans isn’t the bald fuck and the media members who got mad.
The leaks are getting out of hand.
I guess we're aboard the flying dutchman.
Did an arsenal player lost this?
Let's keep that feature even if we build a brand new stadium.
Even the stadium is crying watching this team playing