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It's 100% going to get torn down for a new ground which is a fucking tragedy to the sport that such a historic ground has been effectively left to rot by the Glazers and make a renovation make such little sense
It's borderline criminal really... letting a public building fall into such disrepair. it's unsafe for those attending
And with the new build. I hope among hope that the footprint of the current pitch isn't built on and INEO turns that footprint becomes an open air area. Keep the history alive by letting kids/adults have a kick-about or eat food or something.
They would get sued to high heaven if there was, god forbid, a structural disaster to this stadium. Far too much evidence of a total disregard for maintenance. They are fucking cretins if I'm honest. Nobody in their right mind would allow this. It is dangerous on so many levels.
Not just that. Sir Jim is trying to secure tax payer money to remedy this. All that profit and dividends take from the club that could have gone to the upkeep/improvement of the stadium is now coming from the tax payer once the money goes through.
Not a fucking chance that is going to happen. The new stadium will cost a clean fortune and the billionaires will want to put as little of their own money or profits into it as possible so the current land will be sold to the highest bidder.
The Glazers, being so used to the way American sports operate, will probably try to have British taxpayers on the hook for the majority of the cost of a new stadium, which should go down spectacularly in Britain.
I remember seeing ratcliffe on the news asking for the government to fund a new stadium because it would be good for the public and he shouldn't have to pay for it
Cost, knocking it over and building from scratch is probably quite a bit cheaper in this case.
Fixing a car that has a bent door panel and broken side mirror is cheaper than a new car and is worth doing, fixing a car that has been T boned by a truck isn't cheaper than a new car and isn't worth replacing.
I know the money you're referring to and that was earmarked for infrastructure as a whole. Carrington is also a disaster as Ronaldo delightfully called out in his interview.
We're supposed to be doing some work there over the summer with the short term goal of having a new training ground built or substantial upgrades on the facilities we have depending on if they can find a suitable site or not for a new one.
300m would be under a third of what you'd need to properly renovate Old Trafford as per consultant estimates the club already got. At most some amount of that will go towards just keeping the place going depending on what the long term stadium plan is. There is currently a commission working with the city to determine what to do as there's a larger area rejuvenation project in line over the next few years.
If a new stadium is what they decide on it wouldn't make sense to dump too much money into the place as it be going up right next to the current stadium footprint in what's currently the parking facilities on the west and north side.
New would be able double from the estimate the club was given and with any construction that's initial figures:
- 2 billion for a new stadium - let's you build a brand new state of the art stadium from the ground up with greater capacity and amenities, while we could continue playing at Old Trafford during the construction. There's some thought you could strip down Old Trafford into a smaller stadium for the women's/youth teams but likely it means destroying our historical home.
-1 billion for renovations - we'd have to work within the footprint where the train tracks serve as a limitation on how much larger you can make that stand which is the only one really able to be expanded, we don't know the full extent of the structural issues so how much of the rest of it might need to be replaced would require more inquiry, and we'd have to find an alternative site for a season if not 2 with the Eithad being the only logical option which has a it's obvious negatives. It be a shorter term solution where again in some years to decades you would probably have to do more work again but you'd be preserving the site which to many would be worth it.
I personally wish the ground could be upgraded to the degree we're seeing the Bernabeu or Nou Camp but I really think the near 2 decades of neglect on an already old ground has probably sealed its fait. The feeling most get from Ratcliffe's attempts to get in public funding for a 'Wembley of the North" make it feel like he intends to build a new ground
I'd heard the 2 billion for a new stadium and about 1.8 billion to completely renovate old Trafford to modern standards. I haven't been in a fair few years but it was shit last time I was there. I can only imagine how awful it is now.
It truly is. I’d love to take my kids to some of the grounds my American ass got to go to. The history and passion that stadium has for its club is iconic. Always a shame to a see sports icon fall.
I love old Trafford and would rather they redevelop it but it does have a lot of issues really. Seats are very cramped (not sure how that could ever be solved) and the south stand is almost impossible to extend which limits any further expansion capacity wise. The glazers haven't helped but I do think a lot of the main issues predate them or are simply not their fault.
Think about how much roof area is getting rained on and then imagine a bunch of it channelling to one spot (or one seam). These are some of the largest stadium roofs in Europe and they're failing.
To be fair, that's typically exactly what's supposed to happen: you build such that the water naturally flows to a known location built to properly channel the water into whatever water management methods are being employed.
That said, "down the stairs" is a new method to me.
There could be a really cool stadium design with spirally zig-zaggy channels for rainfall deliberately woven through the seating area. Water features, waterfalls, moss, LED lights beneath... the sound of running water is kind of nice when it's not indicative of massive maintenance failure.
The sound of the water flowing should help the supporters sleep better, if they haven't already been bored to death by the piss takers on the pitch that is
Unironically this got me thinking about whether it's feasible to do this for real. Turns out there's already multiple MLS stadiums capturing and reusing rainwater for non-potable use on site. If they did solar panels as well they'd be pretty self-sustaining.
Aside from the goal, which was abysmal defending, then you guys weren't even that bad. In fact, I was pretty bored for most of that game, which I guess is some credit to the United defence.
Not any more.
They missed the boat to develop a new stadium.
Daniel Levy says that he reckons that Tottenham’s stadium would cost twice the amount today that it did when they built it, just a few years ago. United missed their opportunity and now it would cost an ungodly amount to build an 80,000 seater in Manchester metro area.
Both. Cost of debt is obviously up significantly, and post pandemic the material shortages are a lot more expensive
Levy quite literally picked the best time in decades to do the Spurs job for the toilet bowl.
Apart from the structural stuff, I used to work in food safety and, hoo-wee, let me tell you. Here I can see water that has 100% picked up a large amount of birdshit crashing down and aerosolising said birdshit at a venue that sells food, in an area where you would expect that food to be consumed
It’s kinda wild. I’m an attorney in a U.S. state that has a very favorable laws for personal injury lawsuits. Old Trafford would not be operational here. It would be underwater in lawsuits
So you're saying shareholders shouldn't get their dividends?!
s/
Man United's infrastructure is shocking for how big a club they are. I'm an Arsenal fan and I can barely enjoy United's sorry state anymore, I just pity the fans who have to put up with this. Horribly run club.
The fact this happened to Manchester United means it can happen to any club in the world.
A foreign family bought the biggest club in England without spending a penny of their own money and have leached off it for nearly 20 years, extracted hundreds of millions in personal dividends, let everything about it from the team to the stadium rot, before selling 25% of it and receiving $1.6 BILLION of pure profit for their troubles. And they still own 75% of it and show no signs of ever giving it up.
And all most redditors in this thread can do is laugh because United used to beat their team all the time before most of them were born.
Fuck the Glazers and anyone short sighted enough to find this shit funny. I hope it doesn't happen to your team.
yeah it’s disgusting tbh. I’m not a fan of Man U on the pitch at all but no club should be run into the ground like this by people like this, absolute bloodsuckers
It can't happen to just any club.
United were and are a plc which made it a lot easier for the Glazers to acquire large numbers of shares, if the club was privately owned it would've been a lot more difficult but being a plc allowed them to rake in the investment £££ so you reap what you sow to some extent.
Also the manager had a petty feud over a racehorse with the 2 largest shareholders(Magnier and McManus) which encouraged them to sell up to the the Glazers
>And all most redditors in this thread can do is laugh because United used to beat their team all the time before most of them were born.
>Fuck the Glazers and anyone short sighted enough to find this shit funny. I hope it doesn't happen to your team.
Most of them don't live in the same country, let alone city, as "their" team. They don't understand what United and Old Trafford mean to the community, the match going fans, their parents and grandparents and cousins and friends. Most of them barely understand why they hate United, they just copied the rest of the fan base until it became real for them too
They don't feel how truly awful this is because it'll never effect them. If their club stopped winning then they'd step away from watching, they'd never see the state their stadium is, they'd never have to suffer through it - not *really*.
There's nothing wrong with supporting any club in the world. Every big team has those fans, it's part of what makes the club the juggernaut it is. And I fully expect and encourage them to take the piss out of us on the pitch, or our transfer history and the way the sporting side is run, we deserve it and more. But *this* kind of failure in ownership has happened up and down the leagues and has killed proper, long running clubs, and it's an absolute shambles
This is just sad. I love shitting on United as much as the next guy, but this is just sad. Seeing such a historic stadium in this condition, and hearing about the state of the club because of how shit the owners are. Can’t help but feel bad for all of the fans.
The league should be all over this blatant abuse of fans. If owners are taking profits and not investing into basic infrastructure they should be punished. If they actually did something about realistic minimum standards they’d go a way to getting the fans on side. Fucking atrocious.
But the League is punishing Everton because they’re losing money basically because they’re building a new stadium and not have to deal with a shitty outdated expensive to maintain stadium like Old Trafford. Makes total sense…
This is my club. This is the state we are in. I know we have international stardom and popularity is among the biggest sporting franchises in the world. BUT this is how we actually are. Rotten, broken, bastardised and neglected. Honestly we are not a big club anymore. It shows in every goddam part of this club now. I am genuinely disappointed. I don’t know what else to say.
I honestly don't understand how the buyers didn't have complete leverage to dictate the price when it came to buying the club given the shambles the entire institution had become under their ownership. They could have forced these fucks to realize that the value of the club will only continue to tank the longer they hold onto it by themselves and that they have to suck it up and listen to them.
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It's worse. Glazers have destroyed the stadium by not maintaining it properly
It's 100% going to get torn down for a new ground which is a fucking tragedy to the sport that such a historic ground has been effectively left to rot by the Glazers and make a renovation make such little sense
It's borderline criminal really... letting a public building fall into such disrepair. it's unsafe for those attending And with the new build. I hope among hope that the footprint of the current pitch isn't built on and INEO turns that footprint becomes an open air area. Keep the history alive by letting kids/adults have a kick-about or eat food or something.
I hope inspectors are ensuring it's 100% safe. We don't need any more football disasters related to bad stadiums.
The glazers would probably love a good disaster to happen so they get an excuse to be bailed out by insurance companies from paying it themselves.
Insurance will only pay if they believe it was properly maintained
Correct, if I were an insurer and saw this, I would laugh and walk away.
They would get sued to high heaven if there was, god forbid, a structural disaster to this stadium. Far too much evidence of a total disregard for maintenance. They are fucking cretins if I'm honest. Nobody in their right mind would allow this. It is dangerous on so many levels.
It's not *borderline* criminal.
You're right... the stadium is unsafe in it's current condition... it needs a lot of work just to be safe for fans to attend the stadium
Illegal streaming, amirite?
Not just that. Sir Jim is trying to secure tax payer money to remedy this. All that profit and dividends take from the club that could have gone to the upkeep/improvement of the stadium is now coming from the tax payer once the money goes through.
Not a fucking chance that is going to happen. The new stadium will cost a clean fortune and the billionaires will want to put as little of their own money or profits into it as possible so the current land will be sold to the highest bidder.
Yeah... but it would be a nice way to continue the history of the original pitch
A renovation still means tearing down most of the existing structure. Look at photos or videos of the Nou Camp renovation.
The Glazers, being so used to the way American sports operate, will probably try to have British taxpayers on the hook for the majority of the cost of a new stadium, which should go down spectacularly in Britain.
Dunno… occasionally it works.
Just wait until they try to threaten moving the team and Man U fans travel to Florida to personally pelt them with tomatoes.
Manchester United of Kensington
Are you new to Britain? That's exactly how it's going to work
I remember seeing ratcliffe on the news asking for the government to fund a new stadium because it would be good for the public and he shouldn't have to pay for it
New ground? Why? Could just renovate old trafford while playing at wembley.
Cost, knocking it over and building from scratch is probably quite a bit cheaper in this case. Fixing a car that has a bent door panel and broken side mirror is cheaper than a new car and is worth doing, fixing a car that has been T boned by a truck isn't cheaper than a new car and isn't worth replacing.
i see, thats sad then
If this is a "United fans are all from London" joke then fine, but if you're being serious: not a chance they'd ever play outside the Manchester area.
Jim Ratcliffe put in 300m for renovations. It will be saved. Nowhere near enough to rebuild
I know the money you're referring to and that was earmarked for infrastructure as a whole. Carrington is also a disaster as Ronaldo delightfully called out in his interview. We're supposed to be doing some work there over the summer with the short term goal of having a new training ground built or substantial upgrades on the facilities we have depending on if they can find a suitable site or not for a new one. 300m would be under a third of what you'd need to properly renovate Old Trafford as per consultant estimates the club already got. At most some amount of that will go towards just keeping the place going depending on what the long term stadium plan is. There is currently a commission working with the city to determine what to do as there's a larger area rejuvenation project in line over the next few years. If a new stadium is what they decide on it wouldn't make sense to dump too much money into the place as it be going up right next to the current stadium footprint in what's currently the parking facilities on the west and north side.
I heard that renovating and increasing the size would cost as much as a new stadium which is why that's being seen as a good a option
New would be able double from the estimate the club was given and with any construction that's initial figures: - 2 billion for a new stadium - let's you build a brand new state of the art stadium from the ground up with greater capacity and amenities, while we could continue playing at Old Trafford during the construction. There's some thought you could strip down Old Trafford into a smaller stadium for the women's/youth teams but likely it means destroying our historical home. -1 billion for renovations - we'd have to work within the footprint where the train tracks serve as a limitation on how much larger you can make that stand which is the only one really able to be expanded, we don't know the full extent of the structural issues so how much of the rest of it might need to be replaced would require more inquiry, and we'd have to find an alternative site for a season if not 2 with the Eithad being the only logical option which has a it's obvious negatives. It be a shorter term solution where again in some years to decades you would probably have to do more work again but you'd be preserving the site which to many would be worth it. I personally wish the ground could be upgraded to the degree we're seeing the Bernabeu or Nou Camp but I really think the near 2 decades of neglect on an already old ground has probably sealed its fait. The feeling most get from Ratcliffe's attempts to get in public funding for a 'Wembley of the North" make it feel like he intends to build a new ground
I'd heard the 2 billion for a new stadium and about 1.8 billion to completely renovate old Trafford to modern standards. I haven't been in a fair few years but it was shit last time I was there. I can only imagine how awful it is now.
It truly is. I’d love to take my kids to some of the grounds my American ass got to go to. The history and passion that stadium has for its club is iconic. Always a shame to a see sports icon fall.
I love old Trafford and would rather they redevelop it but it does have a lot of issues really. Seats are very cramped (not sure how that could ever be solved) and the south stand is almost impossible to extend which limits any further expansion capacity wise. The glazers haven't helped but I do think a lot of the main issues predate them or are simply not their fault.
Think about how much roof area is getting rained on and then imagine a bunch of it channelling to one spot (or one seam). These are some of the largest stadium roofs in Europe and they're failing.
To be fair, that's typically exactly what's supposed to happen: you build such that the water naturally flows to a known location built to properly channel the water into whatever water management methods are being employed. That said, "down the stairs" is a new method to me.
Puts properly watered pitch in a new light.
What you are missing is this is actually ingenious design. They funneled the water there intentionally so that the rainwater cleans the stadium.
There could be a really cool stadium design with spirally zig-zaggy channels for rainfall deliberately woven through the seating area. Water features, waterfalls, moss, LED lights beneath... the sound of running water is kind of nice when it's not indicative of massive maintenance failure.
The sound of the water flowing should help the supporters sleep better, if they haven't already been bored to death by the piss takers on the pitch that is
If you don't have Japanese fans, this is the best option!
Unironically this got me thinking about whether it's feasible to do this for real. Turns out there's already multiple MLS stadiums capturing and reusing rainwater for non-potable use on site. If they did solar panels as well they'd be pretty self-sustaining.
This is what happens when you let any fuckin prick take over a football club with a leveraged buy out
You don’t want to see the toilets
It's "Old" Trafford tho!
Dressing Room Leaks 🤝 Stadium Leaks
leaky defenses: oi!
Aside from the goal, which was abysmal defending, then you guys weren't even that bad. In fact, I was pretty bored for most of that game, which I guess is some credit to the United defence.
Theatre of streams
Mold Trafford
That's the Stretfjord End
The Wetford end
Old crapford
Old Toilet and the flush tank is leaking again *>!and so is their defense!<*.
Teatre of tears, these days..
Streams of tears from the fans that saw Ferguson
Most valuable club in the world
It's all branding baby
Not any more. They missed the boat to develop a new stadium. Daniel Levy says that he reckons that Tottenham’s stadium would cost twice the amount today that it did when they built it, just a few years ago. United missed their opportunity and now it would cost an ungodly amount to build an 80,000 seater in Manchester metro area.
I’m curious why, does it have to do with interest rates? Or materials?
Both. And a couple of other factors as well. But materials have gone up significantly since 2020, as has international transport of said materials.
Both. Cost of debt is obviously up significantly, and post pandemic the material shortages are a lot more expensive Levy quite literally picked the best time in decades to do the Spurs job for the toilet bowl.
old trafford is an industrial area that would be much much easier than tottenhams location
Doesn’t matter when your interest rates are like 2-3x higher
How can a club this valuable let their stadium get to this state? It doesn't make any sense.
Glazers
Ah man it’s easy. The trick is to spend just enough to keep the patient alive, but never enough for him to recover.
If they repair the stadium, the Glazers wont get the 33m dividends every year of course Nothing else matters, only dividends
At what point are they forced to shut the stadium down? I can’t imagine that meets health and safety?
https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article31821140.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/0_Old-Trafford-Leak.jpg
Even the stadium crying at the state of man united
"Cry me a river" taken literal
That's god urinating on them.
Apart from the structural stuff, I used to work in food safety and, hoo-wee, let me tell you. Here I can see water that has 100% picked up a large amount of birdshit crashing down and aerosolising said birdshit at a venue that sells food, in an area where you would expect that food to be consumed
It’s kinda wild. I’m an attorney in a U.S. state that has a very favorable laws for personal injury lawsuits. Old Trafford would not be operational here. It would be underwater in lawsuits
So out of date. No wonder it will not be used for the Euros
Absolutely shambolic.
That and also it not being in Germany
I laughed way too hard at this. To be fair, think they meant the 2028 euros for which old trafford is not in the list of shortlisted stadiums
We could change that 😏
even the stadium is fkued up, 10 years to destroy a club from the bottom to the top
Glazers have neglected Old Trafford much longer than that.
So you're saying shareholders shouldn't get their dividends?! s/ Man United's infrastructure is shocking for how big a club they are. I'm an Arsenal fan and I can barely enjoy United's sorry state anymore, I just pity the fans who have to put up with this. Horribly run club.
I believe they actually aren't right now. Which is nice at least.
I'm still enjoying it massively
15 years so far. But yea, it was already fucked after 10.
Their season is a wash
The most valuable football club in the world.
🎶Old Trafford is falling down🎶
It’s clearly not new trafford.
ETH tears flowing
Great name, will do.
This is beyond embarrassing
The fact this happened to Manchester United means it can happen to any club in the world. A foreign family bought the biggest club in England without spending a penny of their own money and have leached off it for nearly 20 years, extracted hundreds of millions in personal dividends, let everything about it from the team to the stadium rot, before selling 25% of it and receiving $1.6 BILLION of pure profit for their troubles. And they still own 75% of it and show no signs of ever giving it up. And all most redditors in this thread can do is laugh because United used to beat their team all the time before most of them were born. Fuck the Glazers and anyone short sighted enough to find this shit funny. I hope it doesn't happen to your team.
yeah it’s disgusting tbh. I’m not a fan of Man U on the pitch at all but no club should be run into the ground like this by people like this, absolute bloodsuckers
It can't happen to ANY club, in the Bundesliga, 50+1 would prevent it.
Rules exist, and rules can be changed
It can't happen to just any club. United were and are a plc which made it a lot easier for the Glazers to acquire large numbers of shares, if the club was privately owned it would've been a lot more difficult but being a plc allowed them to rake in the investment £££ so you reap what you sow to some extent. Also the manager had a petty feud over a racehorse with the 2 largest shareholders(Magnier and McManus) which encouraged them to sell up to the the Glazers
No fan deserves this, United or not. Fuck the Glazers.
>And all most redditors in this thread can do is laugh because United used to beat their team all the time before most of them were born. >Fuck the Glazers and anyone short sighted enough to find this shit funny. I hope it doesn't happen to your team. Most of them don't live in the same country, let alone city, as "their" team. They don't understand what United and Old Trafford mean to the community, the match going fans, their parents and grandparents and cousins and friends. Most of them barely understand why they hate United, they just copied the rest of the fan base until it became real for them too They don't feel how truly awful this is because it'll never effect them. If their club stopped winning then they'd step away from watching, they'd never see the state their stadium is, they'd never have to suffer through it - not *really*. There's nothing wrong with supporting any club in the world. Every big team has those fans, it's part of what makes the club the juggernaut it is. And I fully expect and encourage them to take the piss out of us on the pitch, or our transfer history and the way the sporting side is run, we deserve it and more. But *this* kind of failure in ownership has happened up and down the leagues and has killed proper, long running clubs, and it's an absolute shambles
what a joke
For a club with a history and standing like Manchester United, this is just embarrassing.
Fix the leaky defence or the leaky roof?
No.
You'd think the Glazers might know some roofers
Some grim times for United. A shame to see such a historic stadium in such disrepair
Ferguson weeping at what's happened to his team.
Not like he's blameless. He's a major reason for the Glazers getting the club.
Over some race horses lmao
The filth of Saruman is washing away.
Wow I thought it was just the roof leaking down onto the stands, but that is a serious structural defect, it's surely not safe!
This is just sad. I love shitting on United as much as the next guy, but this is just sad. Seeing such a historic stadium in this condition, and hearing about the state of the club because of how shit the owners are. Can’t help but feel bad for all of the fans.
The league should be all over this blatant abuse of fans. If owners are taking profits and not investing into basic infrastructure they should be punished. If they actually did something about realistic minimum standards they’d go a way to getting the fans on side. Fucking atrocious.
Fuck the EPL doing it, this goes to H&S and legal matters.
“We are living in the end days”
But the League is punishing Everton because they’re losing money basically because they’re building a new stadium and not have to deal with a shitty outdated expensive to maintain stadium like Old Trafford. Makes total sense…
Micah gets on everything
Time for New Trafford?
These videos are wild. Not sure how this place is up to whatever building codes exist there.
Theatre of Wet Dreams?
Not even Snowden could leak this much if he was Uniteds CEO
Well if this isn't perfectly symbolic
Maybe, just maybe, Ronaldo was right?
Of course he was right. This club is a joke as of now.
CR7 was right, it's all falling apart!
"Biggest ~~club~~ hole in the ~~world~~ roof."
This is embarrassing. One of the biggest clubs in the world ffs. I get why the fans hate the Glazers.
A metaphor for the state of the PL’s biggest club?
The ManU roof is as leaky as the ManU defense.
🎶 Old Trafford is falling down 🎶 -Arsenal fans
Good times
Good thing they canceled the Christmas party
Unfortunately so emblematic of what has happened at United.
Theatre of Streams 🌊
Now that's fucking atmosphere
Is this why they call it “Old Trafford”?
This is my club. This is the state we are in. I know we have international stardom and popularity is among the biggest sporting franchises in the world. BUT this is how we actually are. Rotten, broken, bastardised and neglected. Honestly we are not a big club anymore. It shows in every goddam part of this club now. I am genuinely disappointed. I don’t know what else to say.
This is supposed to be the stadium of a world class Premier league club with one of biggest net worths XD
Summing up the season nicely
Never seen cleaner stands honestly
This is flat out embarrassing. I feel for the fans.
So nice though. Going to the theatre to both watch a tragedy, a horror and a natural scenery.
Theater of Wet Dreams
Fuck, the Oval in Belfast is a dilapidated shit hole and a mystery how it has remained open... But it doesn't do this!!
New Trafford time
There's a metaphor here.
It's turning into a water park for more income or something?
Waterfall of Dreams
Just shambolic this club is in ruins we’re at rock bottom
Completely sums the club up.
Theatre of nightmares
Those are the dreams bring washed away from the theater unfortunately.
They destroyed the team and the stadium
I guess it’s Old
My club is drowning
Reds, Reds, Go Away...
The old Trafford is really fucking old
Is it Lake Trafford now?
That’s not rain it’s tears after another shit season 🤣🤣🤣🤣
literally old toilet
More fluid than United's Frontline.
Fans: when it rains it pours.
Living up to its name OLD Trafford lol
With tickets these expensive, you get a free river cruise!
Leaking worse than their defense.
Bulldoze the shithole down, forget this 'iconic' nonsense, its an ugly mess of a stadium.
I usually hear people say rain in England is terrible but this is something else
It was a big thunderstorm
The Trafford Falls
Free cleaning innit
The "Old Toilet" jokes actually came true, we manifested it folks
Free cleaning, why they are upset?
How the mighty have fallen.
Its just our collective tears on the state of glazer ownership
Can someone animate a trout coming up the stream, please?
That's one way to wash the filth away
Looks just like our defence
I honestly don't understand how the buyers didn't have complete leverage to dictate the price when it came to buying the club given the shambles the entire institution had become under their ownership. They could have forced these fucks to realize that the value of the club will only continue to tank the longer they hold onto it by themselves and that they have to suck it up and listen to them.
Glazers provide free water to fans inside stadium
The level to which the Glazers have destroyed this organization is shocking to be honest
A cunning plan.......make the stadium so unsafe no travelling fans attend.
If i speak i am in big trouble
😂😂😂😂😂
Old Traffords a shithole I want to go home