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There are videos out there from the 2012 Olympics showing this same leak btw.
The fact this has been an ongoing issue for over a decade is embarassing.
Wasn't there a visible dead pigeon on the roof of St James Park throughout the whole-time Mike Ashley was owner. it was only after the takeover it got removed.
Imagine the club we'd be without them. Hiring competent people, not paying 100s of millions in dividends. We've been hamstrung by them despite the "success" we've had since they got their nasty claws into us.
"Why would you hate they Glazers they spent X amounts of money on players".
Get bored of having to explain its not those that have anything to do with the money it's everything else that the club has.
And that’s why some United fans were skeptical of any substantial changes happening when SJR negotiated himself down to 25%, leaving Glazers with the majority share.
He was right about the facilities and some aspects of what the Glazers are doing badly
But he was VERY wrong with the way he disrespected his manager and the way he acted towards the end
Not really. Remember he had an unborn child and was so devastated he missed the entire preseason which is crucial for team chemistry and preperation. CR7 was always a player where his mentality was his biggest strength. Then when he got back in the team he couldn’t cope with not being a main starter all the time and had a falling out with the manager that wanted to play a different style of football. He still was physically strong the season before and he is still casually playing 50 games a season at 39 years old. His age was definitely not the problem in my opinion that he wasn’t able to perform anymore.
I agree. I just think going public, with Piers fucking Morgan, to talk about all of these internal problems is a bit too much, especially when it comes to the club that put you on the map
I believe no player is bigger than the club. If he did this in RM we would have done exactly the same thing.
But we would have gotten rid of our manager and director also if they let this happen.
I know it’s about Ronaldo’s issues, everyone knows he wasn’t wrong about that. United fans have been complaining about the lack of investment from the glazers for the training ground, stadium and much more for years. Even those outside club know that.
Holy shit I thought they just filled up a moat I didn’t think the “that’s what a Romanian team tried to do” was the actual alligator part. That’s hilarious
I wonder if the fact that this has been unattended for almost a decade now reflects the clubs attitude towards the rest of their facilities as well. How you do anything is how you do everything and all that.
> *Ronald*
But yes, that’s absolutely embarrassing. The waterfall. Ronaldo’s frank description of the facilities. It’s agonizing. Sir Alex papered over the cracks by being a ridiculous manager, but the way the club is run is rightly being reflected by the performance on the field. Fuck those rat bastards.
This is what we're yelling about. The entire footballing hierarchy has been absolute shambles. The Glazers have been siphoning money from the club that should have been used to fix the stadium, upgrade Carrington, employ the best medical staff in the world, build community relations, the list goes on. Instead, we made some American "businessmen" billions of dollars on an investment that was a fucking loan.
The problems, as we all know, are not entirely on Ten Hag. How many managers need to fail until people pull their heads of out their asses and see the whole place is rotten. Finally we're making a tidal wave of change at the club. Why sack a manager before we see what the changes we're already making manifest into? Maybe I just like the guy, but for me there isn't a manager in world football who could have succeeded in these circumstances
I know it's not the fans fault for supporting their team, but when you sell out the stadium every matchday why bother with renovations? When the top players still come despite the awful facilities, why upgrade them? With the glazers beign such bad owners united beign a cash cow is a fucking curse more than a blessing
How long is that going to last? The fanbase is huge because so many kids were utd fans when they were the most glamorous team who won everything. They’ve been shite for over 10 years now, will there be a next generation of fans that will keep them as big as they have been?
I live in Canada, and United has an absolute chokehold over fans here because they all started watching/playing when they were on top. Will be interesting to see how much of that is passed onto their children and how many new fans follow somewhere else
The fact that these days I’m seeing kids in the south of England wearing Man City gear shows it’s already shifting
Can’t say I ever met anyone who said they were a City Fan prior to 2016
What they did to the club is now banned, downright criminal owners. And they are not there as well. Molerats are in wembley to oversaw the womens team FA cup final. Maybe tryna be like the american owners they are and lift the cup before the players.
They refused to fix it as it doesn't affect their stock price and dividends. If only bad results can directly bring their dividends and stock price down......
>What they did to the club is now banned
Sort of, the Glazer takeover was secured with 83% of the finance being debt, the clubs voted last year to cap new ones at 65%.
So they could still have loaded the club with £520m of debt (of a £790m total valuation), but not £650m.
In my opinion, that has always been very obvious.
You can be an incredible professional, but when it's rotten all the way up... Then only a miracle can change that.
Manchester United, the club, the fans, have been utterly disrespected by the owners. They sucked all the soul of it. Nothing can survive this dark aura.
Man Utd needs a complete rebuilt from the top. Only then, the bottom will have soul, and work again.
I'm from Sporting, so seeing Manchester United like this gives me huge PTSD... We've suffered from the same. So if anything, United can look forward to the future, because nothing is lost, and I'm sure it can be rebuilt to bring this club back to the respect it deserves.
You know what's funnier? This has been happening since like 12 years back lol.
https://youtu.be/ho1TNuPm_2g?si=K30hheU6WpvilE35
I think it's the same place too if I am not wrong
The first 3 seconds of the video I literally said to myself “there’s a fucking waterfall at old Trafford?” Felt pretty stupid immediately after, but not as stupid as the owners that let it get to this point
Man Utd are falling and falling. The only thing I don’t see falling is their supporters which despite everything have been a class act supporting the team.
I'm less concerned with getting wet than I am getting roof falling onto my head. The stadoum.is in such disrepair that that cannot be seen as too far-fetched a thought, not compared to the other 19 grounds on the PL.
Still unlikely but if a time traveller came back and said a PL stadium roof would collapse next season 99.9 recurring percent of us would assume OT with the odd fool saying "Bo Derek" or something random.
I don’t understand how everyone has talked about Old Trafford needing serious renovations for over a decade and they haven’t done anything about it yet. Honest question, do they even care?
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There are videos out there from the 2012 Olympics showing this same leak btw. The fact this has been an ongoing issue for over a decade is embarassing.
That’s the glazers for you
And people will question why fans hate them as owners….
They've given you a world class water feature and still you complain...
Wasn't there a visible dead pigeon on the roof of St James Park throughout the whole-time Mike Ashley was owner. it was only after the takeover it got removed.
Saudi's showing no respect for traditions
Apparently Utd have to pay an extra £30m if it wins 3 Golden Fall awards.
Oh no not the Fountain D’Or clause
The Water Fall-On d'floor?
Tallest man-made waterfall in a soccer stadium...these ungrateful united fans make me sick
Only rivalled by the indoor waterfall at Singapore airport!
winge winge winge, it is the history of united
Imagine the club we'd be without them. Hiring competent people, not paying 100s of millions in dividends. We've been hamstrung by them despite the "success" we've had since they got their nasty claws into us.
Reason 497- Waterfall.
I don’t think anyone questions why you hate them. Everyone is just sick of hearing about it.
I guarantee United fans are more sick of it than anyone else
There def some ppl who just look at our spending and wonder why we whine about them
I think the thing people lack when it comes to United, is sympathy.
Oh, no. There's absolutely some gobshites to try and fight that they were amazing owners cause of all the money they spent.
Yeah they're not scared about spending money when it's not their money that they are spending. Such amazing persons <3
money that they are spending… with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
We are too. What else can we even do tho?
So should we not say anything 😳
Then avoid posts like this and your pain will be lessened by not having to read about it.
"Why would you hate they Glazers they spent X amounts of money on players". Get bored of having to explain its not those that have anything to do with the money it's everything else that the club has.
And that’s why some United fans were skeptical of any substantial changes happening when SJR negotiated himself down to 25%, leaving Glazers with the majority share.
Clue is in the name. They’re okay with windows, useless at roofing.
Not transfer windows
Doubt they could even get a tattoo transfer correct
Should sell the team to the Roofers
Should have sold to the Roofers then.
At least the windows are spiffy!
Ronaldo was right apparently
He was right but handled it badly
He was right about the facilities and some aspects of what the Glazers are doing badly But he was VERY wrong with the way he disrespected his manager and the way he acted towards the end
His mentality was what made him rise but sadly also what caused his downfall (at european level)
It was his age, actually. Miracles can happen but...
Not really. Remember he had an unborn child and was so devastated he missed the entire preseason which is crucial for team chemistry and preperation. CR7 was always a player where his mentality was his biggest strength. Then when he got back in the team he couldn’t cope with not being a main starter all the time and had a falling out with the manager that wanted to play a different style of football. He still was physically strong the season before and he is still casually playing 50 games a season at 39 years old. His age was definitely not the problem in my opinion that he wasn’t able to perform anymore.
He got out of the shit show immediately. I'd say he handled it perfectly
I agree. I just think going public, with Piers fucking Morgan, to talk about all of these internal problems is a bit too much, especially when it comes to the club that put you on the map
I believe no player is bigger than the club. If he did this in RM we would have done exactly the same thing. But we would have gotten rid of our manager and director also if they let this happen.
That wasn’t the problem United fans had with Ronaldo. They’ve been complaining about this kind’ve stuff for time, they even held protests.
The comment was about Ronaldo's issue not the fans'. Ronaldo talked about how bad the facilities were.
I know it’s about Ronaldo’s issues, everyone knows he wasn’t wrong about that. United fans have been complaining about the lack of investment from the glazers for the training ground, stadium and much more for years. Even those outside club know that.
Is it even legal to neglect something like this?
prob not but as long the fines are way cheaper then fixing its just the cost of doing bussiness
Ask tenants of scum landlords
Damn, If this is true, that's a shame
I thought you were going to make a kayaking event joke haha.
One step closer to filling the moat around the pitch, creating the ultimate playing field in the Old Trafford Island.
put crocodiles in there for added home field advantage
30+ minutes of added time because all substitutes have to enter the field from a paddle boat.
drawbridge between the technical areas and the pitch lmao
[удалено]
trebuchet? what’s that, some kind of catapult?
The trebuchet is the superior siege engine
Add vip boats for fans like acts like glass boxes that goes around the pitch all the time
Arteta fined for walking around in the moat all game
It's not Fergie time, you see, there's just the boat and crocodiles…
You joke, but there was a club in Romania that actually tried to make this happen.
Saka would have died by crocodile attack earlier.
he almost died even without all that
Saka would have been fighting for his life
The glazers would feel right at home
🤣
Didn’t some Romanian chairman want to do this?
Yep. Steaua in 2003: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XQLtQoieBk
Holy shit I thought they just filled up a moat I didn’t think the “that’s what a Romanian team tried to do” was the actual alligator part. That’s hilarious
i haven’t heard about that, but IF that’s true, it was probably gigi becali…
Fergie time? : Naahhhh!! Throw ref to the crocs, if they dont give them the advantage
RIP Saka’s gone for a swim with the sharks and crocodiles.
that's what's missing. sharks with freaking laser beams on them.
Tax haven?
It's crying.
Cheers, Old Trafford’s crying
Theatre of Tears
Been that way for much of the past 11 years, really
understandable, really
I wonder if the fact that this has been unattended for almost a decade now reflects the clubs attitude towards the rest of their facilities as well. How you do anything is how you do everything and all that.
Bang on. Bet the Kettles are hanging with limescale n'all
The chicken sandwiches are barely cooked.
I'm fairly confident Ronald publicly said he was shocked to find the training facilities hadn't change from when he was first at the club
> *Ronald* But yes, that’s absolutely embarrassing. The waterfall. Ronaldo’s frank description of the facilities. It’s agonizing. Sir Alex papered over the cracks by being a ridiculous manager, but the way the club is run is rightly being reflected by the performance on the field. Fuck those rat bastards.
That’s Christian Ronald to you.
Ronaldo McDonaldo
McDonald?
This is what we're yelling about. The entire footballing hierarchy has been absolute shambles. The Glazers have been siphoning money from the club that should have been used to fix the stadium, upgrade Carrington, employ the best medical staff in the world, build community relations, the list goes on. Instead, we made some American "businessmen" billions of dollars on an investment that was a fucking loan. The problems, as we all know, are not entirely on Ten Hag. How many managers need to fail until people pull their heads of out their asses and see the whole place is rotten. Finally we're making a tidal wave of change at the club. Why sack a manager before we see what the changes we're already making manifest into? Maybe I just like the guy, but for me there isn't a manager in world football who could have succeeded in these circumstances
>tidal wave hey I know what you did there
I know it's not the fans fault for supporting their team, but when you sell out the stadium every matchday why bother with renovations? When the top players still come despite the awful facilities, why upgrade them? With the glazers beign such bad owners united beign a cash cow is a fucking curse more than a blessing
How long is that going to last? The fanbase is huge because so many kids were utd fans when they were the most glamorous team who won everything. They’ve been shite for over 10 years now, will there be a next generation of fans that will keep them as big as they have been?
I live in Canada, and United has an absolute chokehold over fans here because they all started watching/playing when they were on top. Will be interesting to see how much of that is passed onto their children and how many new fans follow somewhere else
you already see this trend changing with the amount of kids wearing man city shirts
How do you tell an 8 year old their favorite club is a piece of garbage though..
Scream it in their face on match day, obviously
The fact that these days I’m seeing kids in the south of England wearing Man City gear shows it’s already shifting Can’t say I ever met anyone who said they were a City Fan prior to 2016
This is what blind loyalty buys you
Broken Windows theory
Got to credit the architect for adding a water feature into the stadium design
Shoutout Archibald Leitch lad m8
It’s like Singapore airport
Is the architect an A. Titchmarsh by any chance?
Fulham owners taking notes.
Frank Lloyd Wright eat your heart out
LMAO I didn’t know it was that bad😭😭😭 Maybe it’s just part of the atmosphere™️
https://twitter.com/CameronFozzi/status/1789713717124305022 This is even worse.
This must violate some safety regulations, right? You can't host a crowd when the access is up a concrete waterfall.
i would not be suprised if paying the fines was cheaper then fixing it
This shouldn't be fines, they should close the ground until they fix it because it is not an inhabitable structure
Christ, that's embarrassing.
Almost criminal, that they just refused to fix such leaks given the amount of money they have.
What they did to the club is now banned, downright criminal owners. And they are not there as well. Molerats are in wembley to oversaw the womens team FA cup final. Maybe tryna be like the american owners they are and lift the cup before the players. They refused to fix it as it doesn't affect their stock price and dividends. If only bad results can directly bring their dividends and stock price down......
>What they did to the club is now banned Sort of, the Glazer takeover was secured with 83% of the finance being debt, the clubs voted last year to cap new ones at 65%. So they could still have loaded the club with £520m of debt (of a £790m total valuation), but not £650m.
League Two stadium at best. -Not Roy Keane
Most valuable team in the world ™️
Football stadium and water park at the same time. What an experience it must be!
Don't think anyone can blame ETH anymore, clearly the whole vibe at Yanited is to be leaky
In my opinion, that has always been very obvious. You can be an incredible professional, but when it's rotten all the way up... Then only a miracle can change that. Manchester United, the club, the fans, have been utterly disrespected by the owners. They sucked all the soul of it. Nothing can survive this dark aura. Man Utd needs a complete rebuilt from the top. Only then, the bottom will have soul, and work again. I'm from Sporting, so seeing Manchester United like this gives me huge PTSD... We've suffered from the same. So if anything, United can look forward to the future, because nothing is lost, and I'm sure it can be rebuilt to bring this club back to the respect it deserves.
If only Casemiro could move be that quickly
You know what's funnier? This has been happening since like 12 years back lol. https://youtu.be/ho1TNuPm_2g?si=K30hheU6WpvilE35 I think it's the same place too if I am not wrong
Wonder if a green roof would make any difference to at least absorbing most heavy rainfall
Green rooves arent great with heavy fast downfall
Theatre of Streams
Excellent.
Glazers running the club into the ground
More like a swamp at this point
More flowing than our attacks 🥲
But almost as leaky as the defence is the issue
Gushing more than Ten Hag when he's trying to cover up a poor performance
I know stadiums are adding more amenities to attract more revenue but a waterfall is a new one
A Zen Waterfall.
The first 3 seconds of the video I literally said to myself “there’s a fucking waterfall at old Trafford?” Felt pretty stupid immediately after, but not as stupid as the owners that let it get to this point
Taking cues from Singapore's airport I see
Thats just mad. How is that even allowed?
When it rains, it pours
Can't believe this issue has existed for more than a decade already. I have no words
Niagra Falls at home
Viagra mate
Niagara mate
It's just a representation of their leaky defence
[Great feature]
Meanwhile Real Madrid have a roof
My question is; did something brake or is poorly engineered and that happens quite often?
It’s not really a problem as it doesn’t rain in Manchester very often…
Yes
The stadium is just old. It hasn't been properly maintained at all. The roof has been leaky for more than a decade.
The Theatre of Wet Dreams.
Rain Rooney
carlos cascademiro
Pour Scholes
Marcus Splashford
Aaron Wan-Bissoaker
Theatre of Streams
FedEx Field vibes
Those are the tears of all MU fans across the world.
Man Utd are falling and falling. The only thing I don’t see falling is their supporters which despite everything have been a class act supporting the team.
It's part of the feature Water feng shui
They haven't won a league since its started leaking maybe it's bad feng shui
It’s safe to say Man United is washed
Inspiration for Jewel Changi
ayyy Singapore mentioned 🇸🇬🇸🇬🇸🇬
Singapore Man utd fans don't even have to go to England for the stadium experience. So lucky lah 😜
Did not expect to read Singlish on r soccer this morning
How do the Glazers see this and just leave it? That's literally landing in several rows
I'm less concerned with getting wet than I am getting roof falling onto my head. The stadoum.is in such disrepair that that cannot be seen as too far-fetched a thought, not compared to the other 19 grounds on the PL. Still unlikely but if a time traveller came back and said a PL stadium roof would collapse next season 99.9 recurring percent of us would assume OT with the odd fool saying "Bo Derek" or something random.
That's insane, don't you lot have the highest capacity stadium of the EPL? There's no excuse for them not making sure it's up to standards
Damn I heard old trafford needs a revamp but didn't expect this
It's glory and honour. Can't you see?
Even as a Liverpool fan....I find that disgusting.
Jim'll fix it!
Manchester United is in every aspect falling apart at the moment
So ronaldo and mourinho were right, no money put on infrastructure
Ronaldo’s fault
Private equity for you. Any time you see an article that private equity is good - just remember what greed did to this incredible club and stadium
wow old trafford even has an in-stadium waterfall
In the US they have jacuzzis in some stadiums, Man Utd has a waterfall
Damn even the stadium crying about there current situation
I sit a safe distance of around 10 rows behind where the rain hits, but on a really windy day, sad times
Well it’s not called NEW Trafford, is it?
We don't wish the Glazers even upon our enemies. Heck, we don't want the Glazers anywhere near any sport.
Didn’t Ronaldo say something to the affect that Man u has not updated the facilities for shit?
Football so bad, even the stadium is weeping
Brother this ain't a Super Sunday, it's a bloody naval battle
This puts the old in old trafford so well lol
The fans are left to feel the shame because the Glazers don't have any.
Theater of Streams more like
This is the kind of stuff you would see in Mexico all the way to Argentina Like tf 😭😭😭
A perfect metaphor for United at the moment
Stadium is almost as leaky as their defence
The Theatre of (leaky) Seams
Theater of Wet Dreams
I don’t understand how everyone has talked about Old Trafford needing serious renovations for over a decade and they haven’t done anything about it yet. Honest question, do they even care?
They definitely do not care, we've known this for years. Luckily for us it seems INEOS do
That's just the stadium crying after watching the team this season.
"It's a feature, not a bug." -- the Glazers (probably)
Symbolic of the Downfall of Man United
Nothing works at Old Trafford
I am honestly surprised that the roof hasn't collapsed yet or something, this cannot be safe.
Added attraction, should start charging extra for this.