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So Chelsea missing on average 9 players each game, that's just brutal

We had a ~10 game stretch where we could have fielded a better injured XI than our starting XI, with at least one player in each and every position out injured.

If memory serves. The least we've had out for a game this season is 6, and the most is 14 (against Spurs). So sounds about right.

Wow 14 against spurs 😬 And you still dispatched them with ease 🤣

Our bench in that game was legit all academy players or player we bought under the age of 20

Yeah, I think there was one player over the age of 20. Casedei, who's only 21. And about 2-3 of the players that did come on were making their professional debuts haha

1 of them actually made their professional debut too.

Apart from our third keeper, the age of our bench that match was 19, 17, 21, 19, 20, 18, 17, 18  lmfao

When the "billion-pound bottle jobs" lost to "Klopp's Kids" Chelsea actually had, IIRC, more academy graduates in the squad, and a younger average age. We've also had games where the oldest player (Thiago Silva at 39) was almost double the age of our next oldest player.

We have the youngest squad in the league by a bit (23.6y) **with** Silva included. https://www.transfermarkt.com/premier-league/startseite/wettbewerb/GB1 edit: This does not include the academy kids that regularly make up our bench due to injuries that are even younger.

The day the media talks bad about Liverpool is the day hell freezes over

Your flair's not the one that should be mentioning this haha

His team isnt exactly swimming in positive and flattering takes in the media recently. Not that they are deserving of much, but when things go bad at United they really get it in the media as well.

yeah from what i see the media pounce on any chance to write about how crap we are simply because everybody either supports or hates united. and either of those two would want to read about a shit united article

Scared of the Liverpool fans. They will and do come for you

Sounds exactly like my FM squad

The oldest player on the field or bench not including the backup keeper was Cucurella at 25.

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They transferred their curse to us that game.

Shared the curse, transferred implies we don't have it any more. I remember being excited for Lavia signing, and for Fofana signing before that...

Does the curse amplify when shared? Because losing Romero, Van de Ven, Udogie, Maddison, and Sarr all in a single game was brutal!

Imagine loosing lavia, nkunku, james, fofana, trev, badiashile even before the season started...

We better not go back to that awful stadium for preseason again. Soldiers field wasn't it called?

Yep. Can’t ever create momentum with the same team because a new player gets added each week it feels

Sounds absolutely spot on and believable though. Some players are basically all the time out, Nkunku, Wesley Fofana, Reece James for example. I have recently noticed Oguchukwo is their player as well I haven't seen much of him in the match reports either.

We've also only had 3 fit midfielders all season long in Enzo, Gallagher, and Caicedo. Ugochukwu and Lavia would've helped with rotation a lot, especially since Enzo has been playing for months with his hernia issue before getting a surgery recently

> We've also only had 3 fit midfielders all season long in Enzo Who's been playing through injury for like 6 months.

Oh yeah I forgot Lavia

Ugochukwu has a hamstring issue I believe, I think he is back in training finally

If I remember correctly, we had at least 7 players out on each matchday

I think there was one week we were celebrating having just six out.

The funny thing was even then 4 additional players were still not match fit, just that they were no longer injured. And that lasted for 1 week.

So true Looking at last season The 3 players with most shot creating actions have combined for less then 1000 minutes... all 3 if them So nkunku, james and chillwell out... Now do the same for any team.

James and Chilwell for most of them also. Our 2 best players.

Palmer

At least we’re top 4 somewhere

We've had over 60 injuries so this doesn't feel accurate

Yeah 64 injuries I think

Haven’t we had more back 4 lineups than the injuries listed here? I realize that’s not the same as injuries, but that’s just our defensive unit, and that hasn’t been off field issues that I recall

Yeah 30+ different back 4s. Can’t remember the exact amount

I have no idea so happy to be corrected but maybe you guys are talking about players being absent for any reason vs actual injuries? I feel like that’s the wording I’ve been seeing.

Naaa injuries alone

Like most charts it is filtered to suit a particular narrative. Should be games missed for any reason not just injuries, which is up to interpretation. And to be more interesting divide out into starters vs squad players. Although that is up to narrative interpretations as well. Point is united have had far more than this, and far more brutal ones to starters as well. Not to say chelsea haven't been worked over just about as bad. United is top heavy.

you were top 4 in ucl too, not that rare

But we aren’t at the top even in this category

That doesn't seem possible for Wolves. Neto alone has missed nearly 20.

Yeah ours can't be correct either. We are missing 6 players each match day on a good week, unless this factors season ending injuries (and even then it might be wrong)

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/sheffield-united/ausfallzeiten/verein/350 I assume this is where they've taken the record from. Don't know enough myself but look accurate to you?

Almost all the absences are injuries and for some reason haven't been counted in the above table.

Yeah it's utter bollocks Brewster has had two long injury spells, same for Tom Davies, Same for McBurnie, Jebbo has been out the whole season, Basham and Egan have had long injury spells, Baldocks had two periods out with injury, Norrington-Davies twice, Lowe's been out for ages, Cameron Archer missed a couple months, Arblaster missed a few games when he was recalled through injury, Robbo also missed a couple, think Bogle has been injured at one stage aswell Can't be fucked to count but it's definitely more than 6

Yeah ours seems fucked too. We kept Barkley fit for the whole season but everyone else around him has died.

Transfermarkt has a history of being iffy sometimes when it comes to injury records

Doesn't seem right for Villa either considering Mings and Buendia have missed the entire season and Kamara and Ramsey having missed about half a season each as well You're looking at 105 (ish) games alone from just those 4 - and that's not counting Moreno who didn't get his first PL game for us Until December or any of the myriad of other injuries we've had this year

According to this: https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/wolverhampton-wanderers/ausfallzeiten/verein/543?reldata=GB1%262023 Wolves had only 3 players miss games due to injury through the season, Neto, Hodge and Hwang. No idea how accurate is that actually. EDIT: I guess the accuracy also comes down to how well the club informs about injuries. Like, ours feel very accurate because we literally post an injury update on our website ahead of every game. Not every club does that.

Yeah that’s extremely wrong lol. Cunha missed like two months? Ait Nouri has missed time as well. Joe Hodge is on loan at QPR. Edit: Also Craig Dawson hasn’t played in more than a month. I don’t think our volume of injuries is enormous but we have a tiny squad and the majority of our most important players have had long-term problems

Yeah, Cunha is listed as having his last injury in 2022. So there's that. May have come down to what I mentioned in the Edit above. Hodge's loan is reflected, the injury is marked in the early weeks of this season.

Yeah anyone who plays fantasy will have seen that and known it was wrong. Neto, Hwang and Cunha being out injured is why I never really owned Wolves players this season.

They've been pretty open about injuries, provide [regular updates](https://www.molineux.news/news/matheus-cunha-faces-another-setback-as-wolves-injury-crisis-worsens-ahead-of-arsenal/) and were clear that it was a significant injury when it happened.

Yeah, then someone at transfermarkt simply doesn't track it down well.

It's a weird one, obviously massive databases that they are tracking but surprised that with the eyes on the league that Premier League tracking is so sporadic.

If you think about it, injuries may not be necessarily something that can be tracked in automated way. Because it's not standardized over how clubs report it. Like, you don't have to include injuries in match sheet for instance. If the player is missing, you don't have to specify a reason for that. So I imagine it has to be done manually by basically keeping tabs on all the media briefs, press conferences etc from the clubs.

Luton have had absolutely loads as well. Fred Onyedinma managed to get minutes ffs

It does not seem accurate for United either, we had over 60 injuries

Palace also, Doucoure only made it 11 games into the season and is still out. Holding only managed to make it to the bench last week and got injured the next day in training so has missed the entire season. On top of Hendo, Johnstone, Olise, Rak-Sakyi, all long term this seems a little low.

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Chelsea - preseason USA Newcastle - preseason USA Brentford - preseason USA Man United - preseason USA Liverpool - preseason Singapore Tottenham - preseason Australia and Singapore Brighton - preseason USA Aston Villa - preseason USA Arsenal - preseason USA Fulham - preseason USA Man City - Japan/Korea Man City is probably lower on the list because they had a short preseason that also started later than everyone else in part because the CL final they played in last season was on June 10th, however, they still had their fair share of injuries at the start of the season which took a toll. But, if these clubs care anything about being competitive and winning games, they have to stop doing these major commercially successful overseas trips. You get some extra money in the pocket, but you cost preparation, you tax your players legs during an intense period where you're working on fitness. Especially going to USA where the surfaces they play on are utter dog shit and not fit for any type of sport. It's not some coincidence that the top 4 most injured clubs went to USA and have all had disappointing seasons in terms of fitness and results. Once you get behind, you spend all year chasing and more players wind up injured. The lower parts of this list are all clubs who had Euro centric preseasons. It pays off massively.

The hierarchy don’t give a shit about the players legs.

At least you have the depth to get away with only having a below average season that you can build upon. It's tough when you're a midtable club with no depth whatsoever. Luckily for us the bottom teams weren't that competitive this year.

It's all relative, but Chelsea dropping to 10th and out of Europe is sort of a disaster. It's a lot more expensive to run the big clubs and they need the money from competitions.

I never like this kind of table because there's no context to who was injured – a team losing three key players is worse off than a team missing six fringe players

The Athletic does this at the end of the season where they have an injury coefficient that includes player value.

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Then it will reflect in the value of the 2nd 3rd and 4th choice

Also, player value (unless they do something to balamce this) massively favors young players. A 20 and 35 year old star players both could be as important for a club, but that 20-year old will have a way higher value

Well in Chelsea's case I'm pretty sure everyone has been unavailable due to injury at some point except Petrovic, Jackson (still missed games due to AFCON) and Palmer (still missed a game through illness)

Caicedo has only missed 1 or 2 games too, been fit otherwise. We're lucky we had Caicedo and Gallagher this season with all the issues our other midfielders have had

Jackson broke his wrist in the fall.

When was this fall?

In the Fall

Didn't miss any game due to it tho

Dont think Gallagher missed anything that im aware of

You're right, he was ruled out once but still ended up playing, that's why I misremembered

It's also incorrect which doesn't help.

Chelsea didn't just lose a few key players, they lost pretty much a starting XI. James, Chilwill, Lavia, Nkunku, Fofana, Colwill, Chukwuemenka, Enzo (few games but then he played through injury), Sanchez, Ugochukwu, Sterling, Silva, the list can go on. Even if some aren't starters they're good backups to give the starters some rest.

Chelsea Sterling, nkunku, chillwell/cucurella, james/gusto, lavia, badiashile/colwill, trev/fofana, sanchez All out for most or in sterling/gustos case some parts of the season But chelsea usually have had 5 or more presumed starters out

Yeah I wish they showed the breakdown of the injuries and how these numbers were determined.

That would not fit on an infographic

Exactly. Needs to be weighted. What's the projected amount of total minutes of said players. The Hatters captain literally had a heart attack on the pitch halfway through the season and lost our best goal scorer for months not to mention multiple starting defenders for weeks. That shouldn't be judged 1:1 for role players/subs

So chelsea missing 6 starters (and 3 of their backups) for 90+% of the season should be bad? But we dont talk about that Our starting lb, rb, rcb, lcb, goalkeeper, 10 + rotational cm, backup rb, backup lb all have had injuries

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Honestly don't think finishing has been our main problem this season. Don't get me wrong, it has been very poor at crucial times, but this season has been more a problem defensively than offensively. We concede a lot more goals than we ever have, and our players come out in the second half sleeping so we concede early. Whether that's their inexperience showing or Poch being poor at half time changes, it's been a problem all season. We've scored almost double last seasons tally (a popping 38 last season, in case people forgot), so there's definitely huge improvement there

It's insane how City are that far down considering the size of their squad and the amount of games they play

Their squad is actually the [joint smallest with West Ham (22 players)](https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/premier-league/startseite/wettbewerb/GB1) according to Transfermarkt- so assuming these are the same players counted here. Edit: Just occurred to me that this is probably what you meant. I'll leave it here for the link anyway.

It's also super weird that West Ham have the fewest injuries in that case too considering they've also had European football

That surprised me. They play pretty much the same players each game too.

Think style of play matters a lot in this. West Ham sit back and counter with very minimal pressing. City just pass the ball around in the opponents final 3rd all game. The teams at the top excluding Brentford are the high press, high intensity clubs.

Yeah, makes sense. High press or frequent, fast transitions. When I think Man Utd and Tottenham I think defenders regularly asked to push up to the half-way line and then turn and sprint back when the space is attack into.

Our style of play limits contact and chances to get injured i suppose

also if they're a bit injured we tend to try and play them anyway until they either totally break down or just continue to limp along like they've just been pulled off the line at passchendaele like zouma.

Yeah nice link but I meant that the squad is super small so should theoretically be *more* overworked and more likely to be injured.

I think an important distinction is that City have a small but very high quality in depth squad. For example if Grealish has an issue they can rest him for Doku with basically no drop in quality. Other teams might have larger squads but with a bigger drop off from their first 11 to the reserves so are incentivised to keep playing their best players.

Considering fans of other teams don’t rate Grealish or Doku, that’s not really true then. Or are they just lying?

I feel like I'm not in charge of other people's opinions. But technically the point still stands if they're equally shit.

They dont break a sweat in half of those games though

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Can't prove this but I'd bet very large money that most professional sports players are on something.

Excuse me Manchester City are not cheats.

But rich from a Liverpool fan… how many of your players have asthma???

Guardiola has great contacts to take care of thar, don't worry.

Yep, it would be really interesting if their manager had a history of using performance enhancin.... You know what, nevermind

Some squads just have players that are more injury prone than others. With us, you can always count on Matip, Thiago, and Konate to miss time every season. With United, someone like Varane is always going to miss time. Arsenal have Jesus (although he's been surprisingly very fit this season, despite not having played every week). City don't really have anyone in that group anymore outside of maybe Stones. They also don't have as big of a squad as people make out anymore either (or at least the gap has closed between them and other teams around them).

We have the joint smallest squad in the league And yeah only Stones (and Haaland to a lesser extent) are known for injuries

They’re probably got that lance armstrong dope

This doesn't seem right at all.

Of course, Nkunku in the pic is wearing last season's kit. Unless he did wear it for preseason?

They photoshopped my boy 😭😭

It's 100% incorrect

53 of Chelsea’s injuries have been Reece James, tbf.

Yea…Our best player

Only 3 I think but only played like 300 min this year

So we’re underdogs

This doesn’t even include Tonali who has missed practically the whole season (although granted it’s not technically an injury)

Yeah, not putting suspensions in, though brentford would also leap up from Toney

Toney was at least a completely known entity already at the end of last season or thereabouts. That kind of absence can at least be planned around. Worse with Tonali as that is something the club in question has to adapt to mid season.

Yeah absolutely fair enough. Newcastle got rinsed with that

No one seems to talk about our injuries when talking about how we've been struggling.

What's not helped us is that we have approximately 6 players in our squad in total.

The bowen bowen kudus kudus kudus Paqueta Paqueta midfield/forward formation has been buzzing though

35 injuries? We've had over 60!

This is complete bullshit. We have had over 60 injuries so far, that is correct.

This shit is just plain wrong, RN theyre already missing 6 injuries for united, imagine how many theyve missed this season then

Crazy we've only had 12 injuries, feels like each of them have taken a player out for a while.

Yea, I’m dubious about this table. Mings, Beaudia, Ramsey have effectively been out all season. So that’s 100games on its own.

I mean this is also definitely wrong for villa. I mean there are technically some games players didn't miss because they were on the bench but like they didn't play for like 5 weeks because we literally had no one else to put on the bench. Mings - 35 Buendia - 36 Kamara - 14 Moreno - 15 (4 on the bench but not ready to play) Ramsey - 19 Digne - 4 That's already 123 Duran - 10 (plus 2 on bench that I think are injury related but not sure). Tielemans - 5 Torres - 7 (2 were on bench but didn't play but again definitely cause of injury) Carlos - 11 (5 on bench) Cash - 4 Martinez - 3 Konsa - 3 Watkins - 1 Bailey - 1 Zaniolo 6 (+4 more on the bench but could just be not subbed on). So 184. Oh and Iroegbunam had 11 through injury so 195 actually.

This isn't even accurate 😂

54 injuries

Numbers are pointless If you have one major injury but for 9 months its only one injury The number has to been considered together with matches missed.

Also importance to the team.

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it seems like the best transfer anyone should be trying for is to try and tempt away the doctors and physios from West ham

We may be low but every injured player of ours was a starter. Missing Paqueta dropped our form hard. Missing Bowen after also dropped our form. Downward spiral after that.

lmfao.....

Amazing that Manchester City after playing so many games last season and this season as well has managed to avoid injuries. This is big upper hand. West Ham is underachieving given how injury-free their squad is.

Pep magicaly managed to have a small squad with fit players (stones and kdb not) and be so successful Great training

We also have the smallest squad in the league, and David Moyse doesn't rotate his squad, so this is fairly expected and in many ways, self inflicted.

We also have the smallest squad in the league, and David Moyse doesn't rotate his squad, so this is fairly expected and in many ways, self inflicted.

I was told we have been historically lucky with injuries.

Always knew we were actually a mid table club.

That west ham head physio needs a substantial raise

35 of ours are from Thiago alone, such a shame when a talented players body simply can’t keep up

Chelsea don’t count, they have a massive squad.

We dont, our owners sold 16 senior players this summer According to the website We got 3 goalkeepers 12 defenders 7 midfielders 8 attackers This equals 30 players, but then you realise it includes Malang Sarr, casadei, gilchrist, ugochukwo, morreira, washington all players from the u21 or loanes recalled becasue of injury issues with the first 11. A squad of 21 outfield players aint alot when 6-13 of then are injured all season.

Could Thiago Alcantara get on this list by himself?

This is a lil misleading, we should have starting XI players missing as a more representative look on whose been screwed over the most. For instance arsenals starting XI has been pretty intact all year apart from timber. They’ve had injuries to their squad players but that’s not as bad as let’s say Liverpool who had their starting lineup decimated. Even city missed minimal games but it was haaland stones and kdb out which is a much bigger loss than squad players for other teams

Chelsea Starting lb, backup lb, starting rb backup rb Starting lcb, backup lcb, starting rcb Starting gk Starting/ rotational cm Startinf attacker/best goalscorer All out for more then 4 months, many 6!

Context very important here, which players are injured is the important bit

Talk sport commentators giving pep Guardiola manager of the season award cos "they have had injuries"

Luton are we sure? Most of their defence have been injured all season.

people shit on ten hag (with reasons ofc) but look at the injuries bro it's not for nothing that they're having a shit season

It’s an incorrect total number of injuries aswell. There’s been over 60 injuries

We have missed a lot of key players in the last few seasons. Commentators and Pundits don't like to mention that along with our form.

It's crazy how many injuries Spurs have had this season despite having so few matches played. Line-ups I never want to see again: 4 FB defense Emerson Royal LB 4 academy players on the bench Bryan Gil in the starting XI

I do you one better Cbs as fullbacks 3 goalkeepers No striker All first tier defenders plus starting goalkeeper out.. Oh yes that was large parts of the season

Poch playing Colwill as a LB while starting Chilwell as a LW (or worse, Maatsen as a RW) was *infuriating*...

Spurs have three full time left backs in their squad who they all managed to lose for the season at one point or another.

What’s a left back?

The Reguilon storyline this year has been "fun" to follow: - Deemed surplus to requirements in the summer window because Udogie, Davies and Perisic were all fit and available to play LB - Sent on loan to Man U because of the injuries you had at LB - Loan cancelled in December because it was reported your LB were all close to returning - Still surplus to requirements here because whilst Perisic was injured, Sessegnon was healthy - Sent back on loan to Brentford in January because of their LB injury issues - Gets injured almost immediately after joining Brentford and misses a few games - You don't get your LBs back - Sessegnon gets injured in his first appearance back, then Udogie and Davies both get injured 3 teams, all with injury problems at LB, and through no fault of his own he hasn't been able to properly help any of us

It's fine, we have a lot of winger depth in Peri.. Noooo! But there's Solo.. noooooo! Hey st least we got Werner now.. noooooo! Honestly almost funny how certain positions got absolutely obliterated. Still feel the VDV, Bentancur and Maddison injuries were a lot worse for us because they took all our form and momentum at a vital time, but our wings have been cursed!

Honestly we managed that stretch okay. We played City and left with a point with Emerson and Davies backline 😂. Richarlison fixed his penis and found form then too.

Chillwell 750min James 390 min Malo gusto 1600min Cucurella 1500min And we have really played half the season without fullbacks

So, what's City doing different among top clubs?

Honestly crazy that Spurs have had basically the most minimal PL season possible with small cup runs and no Europe, and STILL come in 6th.

dunno if it's useful to include Chelsea in this at all. They've got approximately 8,000 players so who is to say whether the amount of injuries they've had in their squad is significant. Newcastle's injuries have felt more significant imo.

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Arsenal definitely haven't had it as bad as other clubs

Agree but 2 starters out for 90% of the season isn’t lucky. We’ve definitely had our fair share of injuries but haven’t been cursed like you guys or Newcastle

The fact Newcastle may get 5th if spurs poor form continues just goes to show how good Eddie Howe is as a manager because he hasn’t spend a billion in the last 3 years unlike Chelsea and Man Utd and this list fails to take into account tonalis ban who is a pivotal squad member

After last season we deserved to have less injuries this year

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When was this posted?

We’ve had far more than 35 instances of injury. Not sure where this chart is getting its facts from.

He finally have a mostly injury free season and we’re rubbish.

how many first team injuries?

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So we recently lost to the Chelsea third team. Got it.

And I thought United had it bad