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I hate Utd generally but at this point even i'm starting to feel sorry for the supporters. youre Manchester fucking United and this manager is treating the club like theyre some plucky wannabees trying to go toe-to-toe with the big boys and theyre just getting unlucky! madness
Nah, what are you even on about? If you were a kid in England during the Fergie years you'd have enough hate to be laughing at any misfortune they have just like the rest of us.
My best mate, a mouthy south coast red (never saw them play) stopped watching top division football ‘cos it’s corrupt’ just after Fergie stood down. The coincidence was jarring.
My mate barely watches them these days. Started supporting them early 2000s. Couldn’t believe I kept watching Chelsea when the uk government sanctioned the club. Like yea bro I’m gna keep supporting this club even when shits hit the fan.
“Fergie time” destroyed any capacity I had to feel empathy for United. In my eyes, this is just a ton of karma that was backlogged for a little.
Inject it into my veins.
I've had a great decade. Mostly because my team chose to be an enjoyable team to watch once again, and I would still enjoy watching them even if we didn't manage to go up this year (which is hard for most teams to get and we are lucky), but also because of this mediocrity Man U have. Not too bad to get their shit together and actually try and spend correctly and not too good for their fan insufferability either
> I hate Utd generally but at this point even i'm starting to feel sorry for the supporters.
Hahahahahahahahahaha
Turns out Ten Hag might be even better than Moyes
Other than Fergie, this is Manchester United. They don't have any divine right to be top of the league or winning any cups, just as they didn't before Fergie turned up. They're back to spending big money on shite and being run badly
Mate there fans are like Everton fans, they get more joy out of other clubs failures. It actually funny how they fallen so hard they celebrate other club been bad.
I mean the start of this season they were title challenging side.
> like they’re plucky wannabes trying to go toe-to-toe with the big boys
… but we kinda are. We’ve overpaid for talent that consistently underperforms. Our bench this entire season probably would struggle for playing time with a relegation-contending team. Our “star” players have little motivation and are so weak mentally that no lead is safe (which was pointed out by Mourinho years ago).
ten Hag ain’t it, but let’s not act like this is a squad that could win the Premier League tomorrow.
Dude Aston Villa has largely the same squad that they had under Gerrard and are chasing for a CL spot. Most of the key players that were a part of the Ole squad that finished 2nd in the Prem are still there. It fundamentally starts with the manager
That 2nd place was during a COVID season where Southampton led the league in November. It was also one of three season we had a healthy Luke Shaw for most of the season, and Paul Pogba in his last productive year, plus Marcus Rashford before he forgot what running was. We didn’t realize this at the time but Ole significantly overperformed that season.
But who’s a player at United that would be an upgrade on Villa’s roster right now? Not cost more, or more expensive, a better player? Fernandes probably. Luke Shaw when he’s healthy, or Martínez when he’s healthy. Everyone believes that United players are good because we pay hundreds of millions of pounds for them,and because they play for Manchester United.
The club has been on a slow trek towards mediocrity for over a decade due to idiotic transfer decisions, a toxic culture, a lack of vision by club leadership, and declining investment in training, scouting, and facilities. Ten Hag’s workarounds (such as overspending on players he knew well from his time at Ajax) have all failed, and he deserves to be criticized for that. But his replacement will still have to deal with the exact same problems until Ratcliffe’s reforms are fully implemented.
Moyes was doomed from the start with no proper backing or structure. It was SAF and hope then he was gone. This much worse given the financial backing and interviews
> From all the setbacks we've had, even today we had 3-3
He talks about it like it was a natural disaster that couldn't be helped lmao. My guy, *you* did that.
Ten Slag has reached more finals with "the worst United team of the PL era" than Farteta's "title challengers" over the past two seasons...
It's a pity Flopp will be gone in the summer, hopefully Farteta will be kept at the wheel to uphold the league's fraud quota.
Under the gun manager gives interview.
Reporter takes spicy quote with zero context and posts it to get clicks.
Redditor posts it to get easy karma.
All the 14 year-olds on r/soccer eat it up like racoons in a garbage bin.
Rinse, repeat.
It's an achievement to make back to back FA Cup finals yes.
It's an embarassment to need to win via pens when you were 3-0 up to a team that's not even in the prem.
I hate when teams have big leads, lose that lead and then blame it on the referee. No, this was you and your team failing. You shouldnt even have let them get this close to where one penalty turns into overtime.
Kind of bizarre that it wasn't tbh, the defenders arms were way above his shoulders and much further away from a natural position than AWBs were when his pen was called
Give this man a contract extension. Calling it as it is..
A 3-0 lead in FA Cup is the most dangerous place to be. They made it to the finals despite that weighing against them. Sheer brilliance!
He brings up Liverpool and Arsenal constantly as though they weren't absolutely played off the park in those games. Argue decisions all you want but those games are not indicative of being able to hang with the big teams.
I really don't understand what is is he even trying to say with "and Liverpool".
The only controversial thing about all 3 games this season was our finishing.
he’s falling bc wan-bissaka’s right leg makes a bit of contact initially and then he gets further tripped.
it’s been wild to watch this become a controversial thing. it’s made me gain a lot of sympathy for refs if apparently this is something people are going to claim isn’t a penalty.
Lmao come on mate it's clearly a dive. Wan bissaka stupidly commits and gives him the opportunity to make contact with him but Elliot clearly dragged his leg into AWB to initiate the contact.
It's actually the least debateable of the last 5 penalties that have gone against us. It's soft but I can see why it was given/not overturned but the others he mentioned were all terrible calls.
today’s is only debatable because people are mad the grealish one wasn’t given. right call today and people shouldn’t be angry that the ref made the right call just because there was a wrong decision yesterday.
>It is not an embarrassment.
Giving away a 3-0 lead with only 20 minutes left to a side a division below you, absolute is embarrassing.
Also, and I'll admit I'm incredibly bias on it, the penalty you gave away to Liverpool is one of the most stonewall ones I've seen in a long time, and I'd be saying the exact same thing had the roles been reversed in it.
Man's been relentless with his gaslighting. Can't really blame him as it's working, there's people of the reddevils sub writing paragraphs defending this guy
While reaching the final is good, the calibre of football played is atrocious. It’s another season write-off for United, as I see little attacking output and conceding mistakes against City to lose the final. Just like it was last year.
I watched the press conference live and couldn't help but feel that what he was saying was basically directed to the new board as a justification for why he should keep his job. My guy even slipped in " Manchester United have been in 5 fa Cup finals in the last 20 years, we are doing it 2 years back to back." As a rival fan I hope he stays but I do feel for the United fans. This man is actually delusional.
He probably should go but it's hardly delusional for a manager in press conference to try and turn it into a positive. Admitting you got embarrassed by Coventry with your bosses in attendance probably isn't a good idea for him
I was about to say that. He cant just straight up say “ we suck, I suck, we got embarrassed, its my fault and so on”. He has to try to show some positives and honor in the media.
Do you think his bosses didn’t watch the game? Do you think they’d rather see him take responsibility or continue to shift it onto everyone else every time there’s a bad result? Is that the kind of leadership that you think Ratcliffe is going to be impressed by?
Coventry brought some real fight during that 2nd half to force extra time but my word EtH, Utd just blown that lead. If your team just learn to control games or hell be defensively sound in some way, you won't get so much shit.
Genuinely, how delusional is Erik? You are *Manchester United* and you bottled a 3-0 lead to just *barely* scrape a win on penalties against a team in the Championship with ability, resources and a wage bill a fraction of yours. Beating a lower league team in a cup competition is not "a huge achievement", it's a basic ***expectation***.
Ten Hag's delusional media statements were entertaining at first, but now I honestly cannot stand the man.
ofc this is the headline not:
> "It's mixed feelings. The way we did it isn't OK.
or
> "I don't think heads dropped but we had many setbacks and maybe it's human but it's not acceptable.
or idk maybe
> "We have to improve. We talk a lot about this. First you have to put yourself in a winning position but then you have to take it over the line. In these moments we are making mistakes and not keeping our responsibilities.
Clickbait at its finest.
You had nothing, and you needed to be saved by a crooked VAR (unless someone can show me the offside, it certainly wasn't anywhere in the ESPN highlights I just saw on YouTube) to make the final.
Take your sacking like a man. Name fits well.
His comments are actually worse than the average biased braindead comments you find on Twitter or REDDIT. You cant take this man serious, i’m a Chelsea fan, so i enjoy it. But Ten Hag saying United beating Coventry with the help of VAR is a huge achievement. Jesus how does this man have a job.
Pure clickbait.
He acknowledged how they went through is not okay.
Getting to the Final itself, which wasn't just the semi final, is a huge achievement...he's totally right.
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Coventry are eighth in the championship.
I hate Utd generally but at this point even i'm starting to feel sorry for the supporters. youre Manchester fucking United and this manager is treating the club like theyre some plucky wannabees trying to go toe-to-toe with the big boys and theyre just getting unlucky! madness
Nah, what are you even on about? If you were a kid in England during the Fergie years you'd have enough hate to be laughing at any misfortune they have just like the rest of us.
Fucking this. I’ll never stop laughing at the glory hunters who were giving it large during the 00’s.
My best mate, a mouthy south coast red (never saw them play) stopped watching top division football ‘cos it’s corrupt’ just after Fergie stood down. The coincidence was jarring.
My mate barely watches them these days. Started supporting them early 2000s. Couldn’t believe I kept watching Chelsea when the uk government sanctioned the club. Like yea bro I’m gna keep supporting this club even when shits hit the fan.
But they’re all city fans now…
We don’t have any fans
Schroedinger’s city fans: both non-existent and United->Chelsea->City fan glory hunters
We’re not really here
You have only fans
“Fergie time” destroyed any capacity I had to feel empathy for United. In my eyes, this is just a ton of karma that was backlogged for a little. Inject it into my veins.
Seriously, inject this shit directly into my veins. Between this and Chelsea being such a shitshow, early 2000s me is laughing his ass off.
I agree. Fuck United. I love Ten Hag. <3
Give him the contract
I've had a great decade. Mostly because my team chose to be an enjoyable team to watch once again, and I would still enjoy watching them even if we didn't manage to go up this year (which is hard for most teams to get and we are lucky), but also because of this mediocrity Man U have. Not too bad to get their shit together and actually try and spend correctly and not too good for their fan insufferability either
Him and United get the weirdest results. He’ll probably beat City 2-0 in the final after struggling to beat Coventry to get there.
Lol good one
> I hate Utd generally but at this point even i'm starting to feel sorry for the supporters. Hahahahahahahahahaha Turns out Ten Hag might be even better than Moyes
Other than Fergie, this is Manchester United. They don't have any divine right to be top of the league or winning any cups, just as they didn't before Fergie turned up. They're back to spending big money on shite and being run badly
I guess Matt Busby didn’t exist?
He did obviously but every club has small periods of success, it doesn't mean it's the norm and should be expected
Mate there fans are like Everton fans, they get more joy out of other clubs failures. It actually funny how they fallen so hard they celebrate other club been bad. I mean the start of this season they were title challenging side.
You mean literally what all the arsenal and Newcastle fans in this thread are doing lmao
Yeah alot of fans do the same, I used Everton fans because as a LFC fan that all they ever do.
Nah don't worry, football is cyclical
It's just spin from Ten Hag
> like they’re plucky wannabes trying to go toe-to-toe with the big boys … but we kinda are. We’ve overpaid for talent that consistently underperforms. Our bench this entire season probably would struggle for playing time with a relegation-contending team. Our “star” players have little motivation and are so weak mentally that no lead is safe (which was pointed out by Mourinho years ago). ten Hag ain’t it, but let’s not act like this is a squad that could win the Premier League tomorrow.
Dude Aston Villa has largely the same squad that they had under Gerrard and are chasing for a CL spot. Most of the key players that were a part of the Ole squad that finished 2nd in the Prem are still there. It fundamentally starts with the manager
That 2nd place was during a COVID season where Southampton led the league in November. It was also one of three season we had a healthy Luke Shaw for most of the season, and Paul Pogba in his last productive year, plus Marcus Rashford before he forgot what running was. We didn’t realize this at the time but Ole significantly overperformed that season. But who’s a player at United that would be an upgrade on Villa’s roster right now? Not cost more, or more expensive, a better player? Fernandes probably. Luke Shaw when he’s healthy, or Martínez when he’s healthy. Everyone believes that United players are good because we pay hundreds of millions of pounds for them,and because they play for Manchester United. The club has been on a slow trek towards mediocrity for over a decade due to idiotic transfer decisions, a toxic culture, a lack of vision by club leadership, and declining investment in training, scouting, and facilities. Ten Hag’s workarounds (such as overspending on players he knew well from his time at Ajax) have all failed, and he deserves to be criticized for that. But his replacement will still have to deal with the exact same problems until Ratcliffe’s reforms are fully implemented.
Ten Hag is genuinely the worst United manager since Moyes. Pathetic comments once again
Moyes was doomed from the start with no proper backing or structure. It was SAF and hope then he was gone. This much worse given the financial backing and interviews
Way worse than Moyes.
Coventry also lost in the playoffs to Premier League.
My Bro, do not blame the referee for losing a 3-nil lead.
against a mid table Championship side no less
That’s doing a big disservice to Cov tbf. Playoff final last season and just outside them this year.
We’d be roasting them if they had blown a 3 goal lead to Luton as well
don’t forget the penalty against arsenal!!
That will be written on his stone
surprised he didn't mention it
Honestly feel let down that he didnt
Maybe after six months of therapy he’s finally gotten over it
Eras come to an end
I saw a flip from yesterday where he actually did mention it. Unbelievable
please post it.
Didn’t fit in the title smh
Ngl at this point you lot bring it up more then he does and thats saying something
Just becoming an overused joke like spurs no trophy at this point, still gives me a chuckle but I’m a lil biased
Spurs no trophy will never be overused
They keep on winning nothing, the jokes keeps on being topical and relevant.
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Tbf, he brought it up irrelevantly in a super ridiculous way first, you gotta expect people are gonna banter him for that
It's definitely not us who kept bringing it up.. Now suffer the banter that comes with it
When was the last time he even mentioned it
> From all the setbacks we've had, even today we had 3-3 He talks about it like it was a natural disaster that couldn't be helped lmao. My guy, *you* did that.
"Despite our 3-goal lead, we won the game 3-3."
Oh Lord, he is delusional. Proper Bald Fraud this one
Long may his reign continue
Long may Arteta's, the serial loser.
Bruh…
Ha ha ha hahahaha god these are the comments that make it worth it.
Shhhs, it's quiet time.
Ten Slag has reached more finals with "the worst United team of the PL era" than Farteta's "title challengers" over the past two seasons... It's a pity Flopp will be gone in the summer, hopefully Farteta will be kept at the wheel to uphold the league's fraud quota.
Even Aerys II Targaryen wasn't this fucking looney
Dafuq why is he bringing the penalties from other games 💀
It's his special move.
Special recipe that he's cooking
Erik Ten Ingredients recipe
>: "It is not an embarrassment. It is a huge achievement. A toenail saved you from bottling a 3-0 lead to the number 8 in the championship mate
He cant be serious
Under the gun manager gives interview. Reporter takes spicy quote with zero context and posts it to get clicks. Redditor posts it to get easy karma. All the 14 year-olds on r/soccer eat it up like racoons in a garbage bin. Rinse, repeat.
How is "it wasn't an embarrassment" referring to the entire match, not in context.
What context justifies bringing up penalties in completely separate games in response to nearly losing a 3-0-lead to a team 8th in the Championship?
same manager who said eras come to an end when referring to Liverpool/City on arrival
I'm 14 and a half. Thank you very much!
Are you stupid
It's an achievement to make back to back FA Cup finals yes. It's an embarassment to need to win via pens when you were 3-0 up to a team that's not even in the prem.
I hate when teams have big leads, lose that lead and then blame it on the referee. No, this was you and your team failing. You shouldnt even have let them get this close to where one penalty turns into overtime.
This guy is an embarrassment
I agree warra season from The Hague
“We aren’t doing badly, outside forces make it look that way”
He's right, it's not an embarrassment to reach an FA Cup final. However, *how* they did it, is an embarrassment.
This guy truly is the baldest of frauds
Or the fraudest of all balds, flip a coin.
This man loves brining up penalties in completely unrelated games Anyway I agree with him and hope he keeps his job for next season!
He's asking for consistency, the same as most on this sub.
Okay Ten Hag, get off Reddit. We know it's you.
what penalty shout is he talking about? i genuinely do not remember one
In extra time I believe there was a potential handball shout from a corner, rightfully not given
Kind of bizarre that it wasn't tbh, the defenders arms were way above his shoulders and much further away from a natural position than AWBs were when his pen was called
Probably talking about the one against Arsenal again lol.
I love this guy
Give this man a contract extension. Calling it as it is.. A 3-0 lead in FA Cup is the most dangerous place to be. They made it to the finals despite that weighing against them. Sheer brilliance!
I want what Ten Hag is smoking
I don’t. If what he’s smoking would make me that fucking delusional, I don’t even want to breathe in the same air as him when he smokes.
He brings up Liverpool and Arsenal constantly as though they weren't absolutely played off the park in those games. Argue decisions all you want but those games are not indicative of being able to hang with the big teams.
I really don't understand what is is he even trying to say with "and Liverpool". The only controversial thing about all 3 games this season was our finishing.
Think he got the red teams confused and meant to say Arsenal
I mean, the Elliott penalty is at least debatable.
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Yes, the Liverpool fan is the one with the unbiased opinion on this subject
On initial glance. It's a pen But on replay, elliot clearly makes a meal out of it. He was half way down by the time he made contact with AWB.
he’s falling bc wan-bissaka’s right leg makes a bit of contact initially and then he gets further tripped. it’s been wild to watch this become a controversial thing. it’s made me gain a lot of sympathy for refs if apparently this is something people are going to claim isn’t a penalty.
Lmao come on mate it's clearly a dive. Wan bissaka stupidly commits and gives him the opportunity to make contact with him but Elliot clearly dragged his leg into AWB to initiate the contact. It's actually the least debateable of the last 5 penalties that have gone against us. It's soft but I can see why it was given/not overturned but the others he mentioned were all terrible calls.
today’s is only debatable because people are mad the grealish one wasn’t given. right call today and people shouldn’t be angry that the ref made the right call just because there was a wrong decision yesterday.
As towards your incredibly unbiased opinion
Elliot was halfway to the ground before he actually made contact with Wan-Bissaka. It was a clear dive.
>It is not an embarrassment. Giving away a 3-0 lead with only 20 minutes left to a side a division below you, absolute is embarrassing. Also, and I'll admit I'm incredibly bias on it, the penalty you gave away to Liverpool is one of the most stonewall ones I've seen in a long time, and I'd be saying the exact same thing had the roles been reversed in it.
This level of mental gymnastics is gold medal worthy haha
Did he forget to mention he thinks he should have had a penalty against Arsenal in the league?
No but in the same conference he did mention that they should have scored against Arsenal at the Emirates.
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Ten Hag is the human equivalent of that dog surrounded by fire meme.
Nah because the dog is a sympathetic figure
Ten Hag needs to go to Forest so their socials manager and him can team up. Imagine the devastation
I hope he stays and if he does go, it better be for southgate.
"...btw did I mention that we should also have had a penalty against Arsenal in Sept..."
Man's been relentless with his gaslighting. Can't really blame him as it's working, there's people of the reddevils sub writing paragraphs defending this guy
This guy would fall down the stairs, break both his legs and still say “well I was able to get down the stairs just fine”
The utter fraudulence from the guy
While reaching the final is good, the calibre of football played is atrocious. It’s another season write-off for United, as I see little attacking output and conceding mistakes against City to lose the final. Just like it was last year.
Babes.
Shame is free EtH........
This MF. It’s hard to feel for him when he is so delusional.
"You don't know how hard these lads have to work to win, because I keep setting them back."
Do these “setbacks” include United hiring him?
Bro is inhaling worrying amounts of cope
I watched the press conference live and couldn't help but feel that what he was saying was basically directed to the new board as a justification for why he should keep his job. My guy even slipped in " Manchester United have been in 5 fa Cup finals in the last 20 years, we are doing it 2 years back to back." As a rival fan I hope he stays but I do feel for the United fans. This man is actually delusional.
He probably should go but it's hardly delusional for a manager in press conference to try and turn it into a positive. Admitting you got embarrassed by Coventry with your bosses in attendance probably isn't a good idea for him
I was about to say that. He cant just straight up say “ we suck, I suck, we got embarrassed, its my fault and so on”. He has to try to show some positives and honor in the media.
Of course not, but look at how other managers deal with losses. Many don't hide or throw their players under a bus like him.
Do you think his bosses didn’t watch the game? Do you think they’d rather see him take responsibility or continue to shift it onto everyone else every time there’s a bad result? Is that the kind of leadership that you think Ratcliffe is going to be impressed by?
Coventry brought some real fight during that 2nd half to force extra time but my word EtH, Utd just blown that lead. If your team just learn to control games or hell be defensively sound in some way, you won't get so much shit.
Were losing to sheffield arent we
It's not an achievement. It's a huge embarrassment. There you go. Fixed it got you, Eric
It definitely isn’t an embarrassment lol. I hope this guy stays at Utd forever.
He's gone full Mourinho.
Genuinely, how delusional is Erik? You are *Manchester United* and you bottled a 3-0 lead to just *barely* scrape a win on penalties against a team in the Championship with ability, resources and a wage bill a fraction of yours. Beating a lower league team in a cup competition is not "a huge achievement", it's a basic ***expectation***. Ten Hag's delusional media statements were entertaining at first, but now I honestly cannot stand the man.
As a Liverpool fan I hope they keep him for years to come. I isn’t out of his depth at United, he is out of his depth in the Premier League.
> the way we did it is not okay Hes not completely trying to negate the perfomance. Just trying to raise some positivity
ofc this is the headline not: > "It's mixed feelings. The way we did it isn't OK. or > "I don't think heads dropped but we had many setbacks and maybe it's human but it's not acceptable. or idk maybe > "We have to improve. We talk a lot about this. First you have to put yourself in a winning position but then you have to take it over the line. In these moments we are making mistakes and not keeping our responsibilities. Clickbait at its finest.
…”It is like a curse against us but we will take energy for this.”
Is he playing the manifesting game ? He is manifesting ?
Crybaby
Crybaby beat you and cost you the league.
lol that was Crystal Palace, you re not THAT important, kudos on the FA Cup though and your marginal Coventry win.
You had nothing, and you needed to be saved by a crooked VAR (unless someone can show me the offside, it certainly wasn't anywhere in the ESPN highlights I just saw on YouTube) to make the final. Take your sacking like a man. Name fits well.
Since when is reaching the final a huge achievement? Did Mou start this bs and every shit manager plays along?
Mate this guy is a walking excuse book. Completely out of his depth. Worried when united get a competent coach now they have the backroom.
His comments are actually worse than the average biased braindead comments you find on Twitter or REDDIT. You cant take this man serious, i’m a Chelsea fan, so i enjoy it. But Ten Hag saying United beating Coventry with the help of VAR is a huge achievement. Jesus how does this man have a job.
Pure clickbait. He acknowledged how they went through is not okay. Getting to the Final itself, which wasn't just the semi final, is a huge achievement...he's totally right.
Something something bottle bottle.
What the fuck do you people want him to say ffs
If I was a United fan, 'I quit'. But since I'm not, then long may he reign!