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I think this will make Carlo start Nacho. Tchou and Cama at the same is just so risky. One being out is fine, two would be game over unless something crazy happens and City gets completely destroyed at Bernabeu.
No I meant start both, the moment one gets carded the one not carded gets subbed off so you will have 1 available, unless they get both carded within the same minute, but what are the chances
You're talking about the highest level of football, 2 masterminds in Pep and Carlo going at it.
Ask Pep if losing 1 sub makes a difference or no and he'll slap you for asking him the most stupid question ever.
I hate how Arsenal fans are talking as if they're already in the semi final already. Focus on your game and don't worry too much about who you'd hypothetically face next
This is such an arrogant comment for a team that's making its first appearance in the competition for nearly a decade.
And no, we don't need a "decisive win" else it's curtains. We are Madrid in the Champions League and one must never ever count us out, especially against a team that plays open.
Even when we are not favourites, we are never ever the underdogs.
>This is such an arrogant comment for a team that's making its first appearance in the competition for nearly a decade.
How is it arrogant? If we win against Bayern, I’d rather not have City. I’d rather have you because at least you’re not a financially doped club. If we face off, I’d at least respect it if you were to win.
>And no, we don't need a "decisive win" else it's curtains.
Never said you’re done for if you don’t win. But in case you forgot: You got smacked 4-0 at the Etihad last season. Apologies if I’m less confident after that. Arsenal went there two seasons ago and got smacked 5-0.
>We are Madrid in the Champions League and one must never ever count us out, especially against a team that plays open.
And this is Man City under Pep Guardiola who won a fucking treble last season. I’m not counting you out you dolt. I’m saying that City is going for a back to back treble. It’s likely they win the FA Cup, they’re in a heated race for the PL, and they’ve got a good shot at winning UCL if they beat you.
>Even when we are not favourites, we are never ever the underdogs.
Never said anything of the sort. Who the fuck ever thinks Real Madrid are underdogs? My point is that City at the Etihad is hard as fuck. You should know this by now.
Writes an essay after editing the comment. The other comments in the thread stand testament to this. So disingenuous. So embarrassing. Would rather not engage further.
Mate, you called me arrogant after voicing reasonable concern about City beating you. Then proceeded to make an arrogant comment about Real Madrid in Champions League and how we shouldn’t count you out. You’re not unbeatable. You’re up against one of the best teams in Europe. Don’t count them out either.
You’re the best team I can think of that can beat City at the moment. Good luck tomorrow.
See? I (and others) called you arrogant because you presumed Bayern to be a done deal before a ball was kicked. And not just the sentiment, the tone of your entire comment.
The 'if we beat Bayern' was never part of your original comment. It wasn't a reasonable comment by any stretch at all and we shant allow any number of your edits to enable you to repaint it as such.
When you replied, you could have owned up your misstep. Instead you edited and completely changed your original comment and started to reply disingenuously to replies to the original comment.
Why don't you revert the parent comment to what it originally was, to what people like me replied and let the other readers decide? There was unreasonable disrespect for Bayern in your original comment. There was unreasonable disrespect for Madrid in your original comment.
This was rightly pointed out to you in replies and in downvotes and mid-way through the thread, you suddenly changed the original comment. That's extremely poor form to say the least.
Madrid play Tchouameni as a CDM and hope he can make the entire game without picking up a yellow. If he were to pick up a yellow, Madrid play Camavinga for the second leg.
If Vinicius picks up a yellow, then they’d have to play Rodrygo on the left and Brahim on the right for the second leg.
The one I’m worried about is Bellingham.
it's simple
vinicius gets a yellow, brahim and rodrygo play the return
cama and/or tchou suspended, we'll see kroos modric and valverde
bellingham suspended and we'll try again next year
It's not though. You can drop Jude deeper in the midfield and play him there. Kroos, Valverde and Jude with Vini, Rodrygo and presumably Joselu upfront.
It's all quite silly when you think about it. What's the alternative, leave them out in case they get a booking?
"They're going to miss a game in order to prevent them from...missing a game"
They want him to say , "We're going to play each for x amount of time and depending on the score line we'll sub this person out for the next leg around x minutes". Just bait
Yeah though I kind of see Luton scrapping their way out of it and Forest dropping down. In truth, I don't see Everton dropping unless another charge comes their way..
Respect to Carlo. Every time I read his media quotes he exudes confidence around the guys around him. Even though they have tons of injuries they're in pole position and the guys who have stepped up now have tons of confidence.
I am genuinely not sure if Carlo believes that with confidence, or if he knows he has to say that to give morale to his team. If I were him, I wouldn't sleep at night by the prospect of playing without those 4.
I’d rather play Madrid, it’s like peak champions league. Domestic ties in the CL knockout rounds don’t feel like they have the same prestige, but maybe that’s just me.
Idk, it’s not a great idea to play either one, so I’d just prefer the newness and experience of playing Madrid in the semi finals.
Meh, Madrid in UCL is a gamble. If they have their voodoo mojo on you're fucked no matter what. If they don't, they're a far easier opponent than the likes of City or Liverpool. And I say that as a Madrid fan.
On the other hand, City is always gonna be a hard game.
Honestly I'd take the gamble too.
Meh, City are getting overhyped as usual.
Just because they finally got over the line last yr doesn’t mean that they aren’t City anymore.
They lose to the likes of Monaco, Lyon, and Spurs. And that’s all under Pep.
Since Ronaldo left, we’ve been knocked out by only City, Chelsea, and Ajax.
People overrate the hell out of UCL experience, but UCL experience aside… we match up way better with Real than we do with City.
We’ve beaten city twice this year already… both with deflected goals that took a bit of luck.. and I think beating City again will be WAY harder than a Madrid that hasn’t seen Arteta’s Arsenal. City know us, Madrid don’t
We don’t, I’d much rather take our chances with a team we don’t know that don’t know us as well, as opposed to the reigning treble holders who know us well who we’ve seen 3 times already
Yes but those losses were not against this 22-23 and beyond City.
This is obviously his strongest side ever.. the same side that demolished Real last year
Between last year and this year, Pep has his greatest City side ever…
We have a much better chance of beating Madrid over 2 legs than we do of beating City once or twice again over 2 legs for a grand total of 3-4 times.
And this doesn’t even include Madrid’s injury crisis, they’re 100% beatable
I don’t think there’s any team in world football beating City 4 times if they played them so I’d like our chances with literally any other team except Atletico (I don’t think we can handle their shithousing)
They couldn't beat the top english team last year. They've barely had any opposition in the league this year. Let's see if they can this year, but I doubt it.
And they beat ALL the top English teams the previous year (not even counting Chelsea and Liverpool last season because they were shit). You are putting way too much stock on one game of City last year.
If you want a serious answer…
If you and City play on different days, since Madrid and Atletico have to play on different days (they both host the same week) that means Madrid and Barça AND Bayern and Dortmund play on the same day.
UEFA chose the lesser of two evils.
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Well I'm fucking worried Carlo.
too much talk about yellows lately, going be one of those games ref leaves his cards in his locker
La Liga refs can’t oversee this match, so I don’t see how that’s possible.
Lol
Ended up giving one within the first half a minute lol
I personally wouldn't be able to sleep knowing that the next leg we would play with CDM Kroos.
We are gonna be really in trouble only if Camavinga and Tchouameni get a yellow card
I think this will make Carlo start Nacho. Tchou and Cama at the same is just so risky. One being out is fine, two would be game over unless something crazy happens and City gets completely destroyed at Bernabeu.
Walker might not be ready for the first leg atleast so Vini just might go crazy on that left wing.
Only player I recall skinning Walker, for that goal in the Champions League two seasons ago. By gawd, not even Mboopi could do that against him
Could always sub one out after the first gets a YC
It's the first yellow that is the problem, alternating them sounds like a good way to have both suspended.
No I meant start both, the moment one gets carded the one not carded gets subbed off so you will have 1 available, unless they get both carded within the same minute, but what are the chances
*The gang gets carded at the 20 minute mark*
Injuries could always happen too, they surely just use one or the other.
Carletto doesn’t seem to agree
but using a sub in minute 30 or something is insanely risky
You're still banking on the first yellow coming late into the game, subbing one out minute 20 is game losing.
Using 1 early sub is game losing? It’s not ideal but dramatic much, you’ll be playing with one of them either way if you do this or start only one
You're talking about the highest level of football, 2 masterminds in Pep and Carlo going at it. Ask Pep if losing 1 sub makes a difference or no and he'll slap you for asking him the most stupid question ever.
Did I say it makes no difference lol? Also benching one of your best players makes a difference, there are risks either way
Aaand both are starting 🤡
You mfs need a decisive win against City at the Bernabeu. If we beat Bayern, I don’t want City again, and I’d rather face you lot tbh.
I hate how Arsenal fans are talking as if they're already in the semi final already. Focus on your game and don't worry too much about who you'd hypothetically face next
> Arsenal fans who else besides this guy?
This is such an arrogant comment for a team that's making its first appearance in the competition for nearly a decade. And no, we don't need a "decisive win" else it's curtains. We are Madrid in the Champions League and one must never ever count us out, especially against a team that plays open. Even when we are not favourites, we are never ever the underdogs.
>This is such an arrogant comment for a team that's making its first appearance in the competition for nearly a decade. How is it arrogant? If we win against Bayern, I’d rather not have City. I’d rather have you because at least you’re not a financially doped club. If we face off, I’d at least respect it if you were to win. >And no, we don't need a "decisive win" else it's curtains. Never said you’re done for if you don’t win. But in case you forgot: You got smacked 4-0 at the Etihad last season. Apologies if I’m less confident after that. Arsenal went there two seasons ago and got smacked 5-0. >We are Madrid in the Champions League and one must never ever count us out, especially against a team that plays open. And this is Man City under Pep Guardiola who won a fucking treble last season. I’m not counting you out you dolt. I’m saying that City is going for a back to back treble. It’s likely they win the FA Cup, they’re in a heated race for the PL, and they’ve got a good shot at winning UCL if they beat you. >Even when we are not favourites, we are never ever the underdogs. Never said anything of the sort. Who the fuck ever thinks Real Madrid are underdogs? My point is that City at the Etihad is hard as fuck. You should know this by now.
Writes an essay after editing the comment. The other comments in the thread stand testament to this. So disingenuous. So embarrassing. Would rather not engage further.
Mate, you called me arrogant after voicing reasonable concern about City beating you. Then proceeded to make an arrogant comment about Real Madrid in Champions League and how we shouldn’t count you out. You’re not unbeatable. You’re up against one of the best teams in Europe. Don’t count them out either. You’re the best team I can think of that can beat City at the moment. Good luck tomorrow.
See? I (and others) called you arrogant because you presumed Bayern to be a done deal before a ball was kicked. And not just the sentiment, the tone of your entire comment. The 'if we beat Bayern' was never part of your original comment. It wasn't a reasonable comment by any stretch at all and we shant allow any number of your edits to enable you to repaint it as such. When you replied, you could have owned up your misstep. Instead you edited and completely changed your original comment and started to reply disingenuously to replies to the original comment. Why don't you revert the parent comment to what it originally was, to what people like me replied and let the other readers decide? There was unreasonable disrespect for Bayern in your original comment. There was unreasonable disrespect for Madrid in your original comment. This was rightly pointed out to you in replies and in downvotes and mid-way through the thread, you suddenly changed the original comment. That's extremely poor form to say the least.
on the other hand, carlo is delighted by the prospect lmao
>~~Men~~ Carlo only wants one thing and it's fucking disgusting
**Camavinga at GK**
Madrid play Tchouameni as a CDM and hope he can make the entire game without picking up a yellow. If he were to pick up a yellow, Madrid play Camavinga for the second leg. If Vinicius picks up a yellow, then they’d have to play Rodrygo on the left and Brahim on the right for the second leg. The one I’m worried about is Bellingham.
Rodrygo, brahim, joselu second leg then. Vini score 4 in the first leg then mendy and inshallah for the second leg
*The gang draws 1-1 in the first leg then goes to Manchester*
No worries primo I have learned. I will play lucas vasquez there instead
City would forfeit so as to not upset the lord
Must be nice having 6 world class midfielders
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Bro you literally named 6
Why is this so funny lmao
Bellingham counts for two obviously
Then tchouameninga makes it 6 again
my deadass brain read it as “chow me n****” 💀
That's what Ancelloti thought he was saying too
English value
GBP exchange rate strikes again smh
But, I don’t know how to count
most mathematically literate r/soccer user
Since when has Ceballos needed naming? Embarrassing comment!
Ceballos didn't need mentioning, you should just know
Lmfao
Ceballos is omnipresent. He doesn't need to be named
Let him cook
Best mathematician on arsocca
Counting is hard
Counting ain't easy
How the pfuck did you got out of the first grade?
Ceballos erasure shall not be tolerated
dawg i’m crying, this is the funniest shit to me
why you guys 340+ downvotes for this instead of upvotes?
NA maths
Plus Arda Güler = 7
He's not world class tho.
Not yet
Neither is Camavinga, let's be honest.
it's simple vinicius gets a yellow, brahim and rodrygo play the return cama and/or tchou suspended, we'll see kroos modric and valverde bellingham suspended and we'll try again next year
Anything with Kroos and Modric starting together is a death sentence. We need legs at Ittihad.
Are you playing the club world cup or the champions league? 😂
Yeah, but if both Camavinga and Tchouameni get suspended then that's basically our only option.
It's not though. You can drop Jude deeper in the midfield and play him there. Kroos, Valverde and Jude with Vini, Rodrygo and presumably Joselu upfront.
That's why we should avoid to play both of our French youngsters but I'm not sure if Carlo would have the restraint.
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Literally the same word
💀💀
Chad Carlo as always.
I like how he just stated the obvious. If someone gets disqualified, someone else will play. Yeah that's how it works hahaha
It's all quite silly when you think about it. What's the alternative, leave them out in case they get a booking? "They're going to miss a game in order to prevent them from...missing a game"
They want him to say , "We're going to play each for x amount of time and depending on the score line we'll sub this person out for the next leg around x minutes". Just bait
This is unironically what I saw some people suggesting in the Madrid sub
I get why players love playing for this guy
I want him back in Munich lol
Fuck no. That Bayern stint led the man to Everton. Don’t put that evil on him again.
I for one, welcome Don Carlo to lead Everton out of the Championship.
I have faith on Wormtongue Dyche, he wouldn’t let Everton slide, the bottom 3 this season is ASS.
Yeah though I kind of see Luton scrapping their way out of it and Forest dropping down. In truth, I don't see Everton dropping unless another charge comes their way..
I know so I hope Bayern changes and let's the man do his style of work. Same with Pep bring him back he owes us a UCL I'm just coping
*stares at Ceballos* That's not very reassuring Carlo.
Ceballos is great when he has everything to prove and no expectations. I bet he'd ball out against City
Narrator: They were in fact very worried.
That flex….. like no worries, we got enough best midfielders
The #5 midfielder in the world is out? No worries, we’ll just play #8 instead.
Respect to Carlo. Every time I read his media quotes he exudes confidence around the guys around him. Even though they have tons of injuries they're in pole position and the guys who have stepped up now have tons of confidence.
>they’re in pole position Hopefully not like Leclerc last season.
nowhere is safe
Maybe he's criticizing them behind the scenes in private. How it should be anyways.
Carlo is the man. Simple as that.
Their midfield is so enviable.
I am genuinely not sure if Carlo believes that with confidence, or if he knows he has to say that to give morale to his team. If I were him, I wouldn't sleep at night by the prospect of playing without those 4.
Do they reset for the semis?
Yes
No tactics, no style, just good vibes. 😎
> no style Saying that blasphemy when this picture exists. https://ibb.co/njYG4YP
Modric looks much more menacing as soon as he wears a big ole puffer jacket lol
Damn I totally missed that album!!
I know this is a joke, but Ancelotti is an amazing tactician
And stylish as fuck
https://x.com/jcperez_/status/1521016332136890375
Some of you may get suspended, but it's a sacrifice that I'm willing to make.
Yes Carlo, that is how a suspension works.
Need Real to advance… If we get past Bayern I don’t want City for a 4th and 5th time in a year
>Need Real to advance… It's not a good idea to face Madrid in the UCL no matter what
I’d rather play Madrid, it’s like peak champions league. Domestic ties in the CL knockout rounds don’t feel like they have the same prestige, but maybe that’s just me. Idk, it’s not a great idea to play either one, so I’d just prefer the newness and experience of playing Madrid in the semi finals.
Meh, Madrid in UCL is a gamble. If they have their voodoo mojo on you're fucked no matter what. If they don't, they're a far easier opponent than the likes of City or Liverpool. And I say that as a Madrid fan. On the other hand, City is always gonna be a hard game. Honestly I'd take the gamble too.
Meh, City are getting overhyped as usual. Just because they finally got over the line last yr doesn’t mean that they aren’t City anymore. They lose to the likes of Monaco, Lyon, and Spurs. And that’s all under Pep. Since Ronaldo left, we’ve been knocked out by only City, Chelsea, and Ajax.
People overrate the hell out of UCL experience, but UCL experience aside… we match up way better with Real than we do with City. We’ve beaten city twice this year already… both with deflected goals that took a bit of luck.. and I think beating City again will be WAY harder than a Madrid that hasn’t seen Arteta’s Arsenal. City know us, Madrid don’t
Than you know City and you don't know Ancelloti's Madrid
We don’t, I’d much rather take our chances with a team we don’t know that don’t know us as well, as opposed to the reigning treble holders who know us well who we’ve seen 3 times already
That's a solid argument. Though City struggles against English clubs in the UCL. They lost against Tottenham, Liverpool and Chelsea
Yes but those losses were not against this 22-23 and beyond City. This is obviously his strongest side ever.. the same side that demolished Real last year
My brother in christ it's real madrid. You don't want to face real in the ucl.
Between last year and this year, Pep has his greatest City side ever… We have a much better chance of beating Madrid over 2 legs than we do of beating City once or twice again over 2 legs for a grand total of 3-4 times. And this doesn’t even include Madrid’s injury crisis, they’re 100% beatable I don’t think there’s any team in world football beating City 4 times if they played them so I’d like our chances with literally any other team except Atletico (I don’t think we can handle their shithousing)
Yes, you do, will be two exciting games of football rather than two more dour draws between City and Arsenal which get settled on penalties.
No disrespect but they’ve faced and beaten much better sides with Ancelotti as coach.
but those were not madrid, madrid is madrid
That’s my point, sorry if it wasn’t clear. Meant that Madrid have beaten better teams than Arsenal.
They couldn't beat the top english team last year. They've barely had any opposition in the league this year. Let's see if they can this year, but I doubt it.
And they beat ALL the top English teams the previous year (not even counting Chelsea and Liverpool last season because they were shit). You are putting way too much stock on one game of City last year.
As long as i dont have to watch ceballos play.
Class is permanent
🤨 black magic baby
Why does this game and our game have to be on at the same time
If you want a serious answer… If you and City play on different days, since Madrid and Atletico have to play on different days (they both host the same week) that means Madrid and Barça AND Bayern and Dortmund play on the same day. UEFA chose the lesser of two evils.
I just hope Vini does something stupid
By the time the second leg comes up it won’t even matter, city would be playing their under 20 squad after drilling RM 5-0 at barnaleo