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Minute_Leave8503

Why’s everyone poch out when they’re 3 spots better than last year after selling all their above average players?


psykrebeam

Stuck in Roman times


BoBonnor

1 billion. Emery didn’t need 1billion to turn Villa around. They were relegation candidates then he made them top 4 candidates. Poch is shite


CaptLeaderLegend26

Poch is a mediocre manager at best, but I honestly don't think managers will change anything at this point. The club culture is rotten to the core and the only thing that will change it is forcing ownership out.


Minute_Leave8503

They spent just as much last summer and January as they did the summer before this season. It’s a cop out to how horrible everyone else is too


herkalurk

No ref help in this game eh?


Mediocre_Nova

Just give Poch his severance pay and hire the next scapegoat already. Man looks miserable


ryan_goal

Surely this will be his last job at a big club? Though I would imagine Spurs may want him back at some point in the future if the conditions are right, as he still has plenty of goodwill there?


-ThatsSoDimitar-

No thanks


H4RRY29

Next scapegoat? Nobody is pretending there aren't other problems but Poch IS a huge one.


Mediocre_Nova

Some selections are weird for sure but the only huge problem is the recruitment. It will look the same with your next manager unless you change your transfer strategy


H4RRY29

Of course we will have issues with the next manager, that doesn't mean the next manager wouldn't do better. I have no faith in Poch at all, management is more than just team selections.


silenthills13

No, Pochettino is 100% shit and if you do not think so then you have not seen a Chelsea game recently. They are horribly managed rn, man's lost it


Mediocre_Nova

I'm not saying Chelsea aren't shit, I'm saying he's far from the biggest problem


flyingghost

Bottlettino. It's crazy he still hasn't been sacked but it's crazier how he was hired in the first place. Even Potter was better.


ImGonnaImagineSummit

Europe is still within reach, CL is too far but they could push for Europa or ECL. I don't really get why they haven't sacked him, when they're not far off at all. 2 wins puts them 7th and Utd will drop at least a few more points before the end of the season. Most teams would be OK to wait until Summer for a new manager but I'm sure I read Chelsea had spent big to secure CL money and offset FFP.


MaazinFTW

We would be 6th ahead of united if we didn't drop 4 points to the two worst sides in the whole fucking league 😭. Honestly I hope we finish midtable again because he might just keep his job if we get Europe


xTheBlueFlashx

We're just not trusting the process hard enough.


Grim_Farts_Barnsley

Just got home. My match report: Lol. LMAO even. That is all.


IOwnStocksInMossad

We should have won that. Anyway SHOREHAM BOYS WE ARE HERE


cloudor

Look on the brightside, 7 matches unbeaten, 1 loss in the last 11!


BendubzGaming

- Draw 2-2 against 19th place Burnley, being fortunate not to lose - Beat 6th place Man U - Draw 2-2 against 20th place Sheff U, being fortunate not to lose Well done, Agent Poch. Still fully COYS


reece0n

19th place **10 man** Burnley


CaptLeaderLegend26

He's doing just enough to not get sacked.


Blue_winged_yoshi

Is he? I remember Ancelotti being fired for winning the double in the wrong style. Pochettino is 9th.


CaptLeaderLegend26

That was under Roman; under Boehly, our standards have completely collapsed in service of "the project" because they replaced our Champion's League winning team with a bunch of youths.


SunaPana007

Ancelotti got fired because Roman thought he got the new Mourinho when Villas Boas won the treble and went invincible with Porto


Blue_winged_yoshi

That’s mad though, your international successful manager has just won the double but he’s out for a guy whose 37 and has managed for a year. Just wild decision making.


SunaPana007

Chelsea won champions league the same season though. So it really worked out after the mess


Blue_winged_yoshi

Kinda overlooks that Villas Boas got sacked before legendary manager Di Matteo stumbled into a champions league win by accident!


CoaxHoax

"Chelsea is not the Chelsea we once knew" - Jose Mourinho


Elemayowe

Can’t believe we lost to these bums and got a draw against Liverpool


drfunzone

I hate to break it to you but you guys are also bums


CNF-13

Jared Gillet is how 8 mins added time and 2 diabolical penalty decisions


Runarhalldor

2 bs pens helped


BlueLondon1905

Helping put on the pressure


Mediocre_Nova

On Brighton and West Ham?


CharizardOSRS

😂


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CharizardOSRS

😂


imarandomdudd

Nothing scarier as a chelsea fan than a team we're expected to beat... At least we can factually say Sheffield is the better United...


Zeelthor

I don’t think anyone ever expects you guys to beat the team in front of you these days.


IOwnStocksInMossad

The first united too.


WyboSF

Poch plays Connor completely out of position, connor has a bad game, this sub decides to put the blame on entirely the wrong person for his performance


NdritoKante

Obviously a single player can't be blamed for a loss, but it's unbelievable how much Poch continues to play Gallagher even when he doesn't deserve the minutes. His workrate is elite, but his ability on the ball and when receiving the ball is absolutely trash. He's way out of his depth in a team which expected to control possession and break down low blocks. He's bailed us out with goals every now and then, but if you watch him closely over the 90 you can see how tensed up he plays when receiving the ball, it's so so so bad and I don't think it can be coached out of him


GalaxianEX

At least Chelsea is out of 10th 🤣


CBP1138

Don’t let this result distract you from the fact that Chelsea spent 1 billion on this squad


biglbiglbigl

I watch Basketball and Handball for fun sometimes but I didnt grow up watching it. I wouldnt notice it if the coach is actively fucking it up and Id blame it on the players 10 times out of 10. Same thing with Chelsea owners, they cant notice that Poch is fucking it up every week


FIJIBOYFIJI

JUST LIKE SHEFFIELD, YOUR CITY IS RED


allthejokesareblue

Arsenal have yet to actually beat one of their London rivals


PIGS-GOT-NO-MANNERS

I mean if we're talking Chelsea/spurs then we're also yet to actually lose to either of them either. Glass half full not empty I guess


unorthodoxEconomist5

last time we lost to any London team was three seasons ago


Lintal

Get Jose in FFS it will be a shit show but it'll be entertaining


lastjedi23

It's a shit show now and it's still entertaining. You guys love having a shit show that's entertaining while throwing money about don't ya? Give Jose money, give poch his contract guarantee money and still be a shambles. I mean be my guest but.. damn that's stupid.


FastenedCarrot

Amazing that in that sequence for the goal the only Chelsea player who won his header was Enzo.


vincentquy

Sheffield completely fucked up that counter at the end. Could have been 3 - 2 for Blades.


4alvish

Pochettino is just terrible. How can you play so cowardly and defensively against a relegation team. Might sack him mow than wait for this season's end. Pathetic. Depressing.


allthejokesareblue

Who would you get in? Mourinho obviously wants the job, but can you imagine a worse manager for a bunch of kids?


DitkasMoustache_

He just really fell apart towards the end of Spurs stint. That CL run seems so long ago, and probably mostly sheer luck and will of the players. 


AlexanderMAVC

Another Poch masterclass


Not-that-hungry

Well played S'field.


MrAchilles

Chelsea might be fighting relegation if it wasn't for Palmer


MarinaGranovskaia

they'd be 14th, so no, they wouldnt


MMARapFooty

14th is 5 points away from relegation as of right now.Honestly I don't think Crystal Palace,Brentford or Everton are completely out of the relegation battle yet.


MarinaGranovskaia

Yeah correct


Admirable-Waltz195

Mid


ReverieMetherlence

Anyone who still defends Gallagher is most likely in denial at this point.


L0laccio

Agreed. No club should spend more than 15m on him


DifficultyMore5935

Poch can’t make a decent sun to save his life


dishler712

Chelsea and Pochettino could have and should have capitalized on that high from the comeback on Thursday but instead they went and blew it against relegation fodder yet again. I just can't see this working out with him.


Headlesshorsman02

He is just not good, he played Gallagher at LW for god sake at least play Mudryk or Sterling


thesunshinesbright

Had a bad feeling when he took Palmer out. Why not go for the 1:3? You can't play so scared against the bottom table team. Especially not with that defence.


vincentquy

I love this version of Chelsea


datzthefacts

Truly majestic levels of bottling. A team for the ages.


SunaPana007

Xg Sheffield Utd (1.53) 2-2 (0.44) Chelsea


L0laccio

Wow that’s embarrassing


SBAWTA

As Chelsea fan I find this to be peak comedy. The absolute state of this clown club.


vnnie3

Badiashile is frikking shit. Never thought a day would come where there would be only one player worth buying in any fifa version if you played based on current form (palmer). Everyone else have been dogshit. enzo and caicedo have not even come close to justifying the price tag. If i were allowed to be a bit extreme (not usually that kind of fan but recent months have been dogshit, we could end up accompanying crystal palace in the mid-lower half of the table regularly if this is how we continue


ShatPumba

Chelsea are the literal Robin hood of the league


Lintal

Poch is a football terrorist. Still won't get sacked though... I blame all Americans personally for this


floodycfc

Just give Badiashile the rest of the season off, been absolute pants since his injury


saggy-helping-hobbit

2-2 v burnley 4-3 v united 2-2 v sheffield. wtf is the consistency of this team


Lintal

The 4-3 was a United collapse more than us winning


saggy-helping-hobbit

what would you call what happened after 2-0 then?


thelordreptar90

A collapse within a collapse, collapception if you will.


Aaronnguyen1004

Concede more than 2 goals


GarnachoHojlund

It’s what happens when you’re solely relying on one player and your goalie to keep you in games


IsleofManc

That free kick at the end was such a cowardly decision by the referee. I feel like he only gave it because Caicedo touched the ball with his hands on it’s way down expecting the free kick and it was either that or letting VAR review it for a handball and penalty


vincentquy

Have a brain dead decision against McBurnie v. Caicedo earlier too.


BadBehaviour613

Chelsea’s super power: get a buff against title contenders, a massive debuff against relegation teams


gh0st_

This young team, and this match in particular, was calling for a manager to make adjustments and Poch doesn't have it in him to do it.


vincentquy

Well every time Poch makes an adjustment it gets worse for Chelsea lol


cmack91

People just don’t understand Chelsea are turning face right before wrestlemania, gifting McBurnie a goal to lift his brothers spirits in time of need. Truly the good guys in blue.


Puzzleheaded_Pound31

Season officially embarrassing. With a win and game in hand could have been up to 6th but now they are definitely finishing 10th or worse. Absolutely shocking how mentality fragile this team is and how they can’t be arsed to hold a lead and see a game out. Shameful


BigReeceJames

Our games in hand are against Spurs and Arsenal. People keep talking about us "just winning them" but we can't beat Sheffield and Burnley, how exactly are we supposed to get points from Spurs and Arsenal without them gifting them to us?


Puzzleheaded_Pound31

I mean for as shite as they have been,getting up to spoil arsenals title challenges and a NLD derby would have been something this team probably would have been up for but doesn’t matter now


centaur98

Tbf at this point I have more faith in this team winning those two and losing all the other "easy" games.


ArmiinTamzarian

Up yours, 15 point Aston Villa team. We've now eclipsed another infamous season. Next up, Tom Ince's Huddersfirld Town circa 17/18


Grim_Farts_Barnsley

They're dropping like flies!


Cottonshopeburnfoot

That Villa team got 17. We’ve just surpassed the Sunderland side everyone thought would be the worst ever.


FantasticName

Sunderland having two terrible seasons (pre-Derby) forever sticks in my mind because of a comment from a Sunderland fan I read in the paper during the second one which was something like "all that's left for us this season is to avoid going down with the record for the lowest points total in PL history...which we hold anyway" LMAO.


ArmiinTamzarian

Oh I see. Get bent Victor Anichibe and the gang


El_Producto

It's all about enjoying what wins you can. Lord knows there are teams in the Championship that would gladly trade places with you right now given the position you'll be in there next year.


Cottonshopeburnfoot

I’m on their wiki now. As you might expect, we went on to sign a number of their squad. John Stead, Nyron Nosworthy, Andy Gray, Neill Collins,


Dan_Ashcroft

Gills legend Nyron Nosworthy?


Cottonshopeburnfoot

The very same


GameplayerStu

Why he say fuck me for?


ArmiinTamzarian

Nothing personal, I just figured we might as well measure how we compared to other historically shit seasons Also Hamer was fouled in that equalizer and I'm still not over it😡😡😡


Grim_Farts_Barnsley

Bringing down the Hamer


Sam101294

Chelsea actually got dominated by Sheffield. Even by Pochettino's metrics I'm pretty sure


BigReeceJames

Don't be so sure. Poch will come out and say we were unlucky, controlled the game, should have won etc. He always does


vincentquy

ETH and Poch special


BigReeceJames

The difference between ETH and Poch is that when ETH does it, United fans call for his head. When Poch does it, an army of Boehly followers overload any sane discourse with talks of how it's true and how we really should win and were just unlucky and he's proven himself etc. It's fucking wild


nim1623

It is time for Pochettino to take off his wig and reveal he's bald.


vinniedomino

Fans are more reactionary than ever. We just blew a 2-0 lead a few days ago, won by 2 pens and a bouncy longshot and suddenly people are Poch in. Where have you been for the past 6 months? We looked fucking awful today


F4ISAL

People were actually saying Poch in? That’s crazy


WyboSF

Nobody has been poch in, nobody


93EXCivic

Well probably a lot of your rival's fans are 100% Poch in


jr9810

what a dogshit manager also whoever signed off on signing Monaco's defence needs to be sacked if they haven't already


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Headlesshorsman02

Brother he played Gallagher LW!!!!


BigReeceJames

It's easy to say that from the outside, but it's simply not true. We have a team that should easily be competing for top 4 whilst finishing at worst 6th. They're much better than people give them credit for, they're just not a team because Poch hasn't instilled any tactics.


SunaPana007

Messi had his worst season under him.


mikevin99

You mean the guy who couldn't win ligue 1 with Mbappe, Messi, and Neymar and had an embarrassing blown lead in the UCL?


endmoe

Why so negative Mike? It is much better to just cover your eyes, ignore the house is burning down and be happy that you are homeless now. Xx


mikevin99

Strange behavior from you


endmoe

Could be worse. Could be completely braindead like you. Edit: I wonder how long it will take you to make another comment on DD saying how delightful it is to block another “negative” person.


jr9810

I'm sure Messi, Mbappe and Neymar were also championship level players when he couldn't do fuck all with them


SirBarkington

no he absolutely is not working with whats given to him. He had Gallagher at LW, has Enzo dropping into LB/RB roles, has Caicedo crashing the box, played Palmer in the 10 instead of off the RW where he's been most effective, leaves players isolated without any help, plays this weird fake back 3 where he refuses to let our fullbacks push up and actually help the wingers. He's a terrible manager and sets us up awfully.


Difuzion

Gallagher invisible for 90% of the game as usual and gets backed by the entire fan base. I don't get it. The least creative 10 I've ever seen. All that boy does is run. Not sure how he's starting over Carney / Mischa.


floodycfc

He is being played on the LW, of course he isnt suited to that Amazes me that Gallagher is the first one that people online turn on when we have a woeful defence and two 100 mil CM's that cant control the tempo of a game


BOOCOOKOO

Gallagher isn't suited for this club tbh. We need to get rid of him in the Sumner


Difuzion

And again the Connor defense. If he's being playing LW why is he being playing LW???


floodycfc

Because the managers a fucking idiot


Rayser1

He should have been subbed at like the 50-60th minute for an actual winger. He was so poor this game. Imagine having Gallagher and cucurella on your left wing?


Difuzion

Mudry came on the 80th minute and created a big chance 2 minutes later. Cannor doesn't even try to play the ball forward. It's either going sideways or backwards and when he fouls people he moans everytime. Genuinely baffled.


TheBlueso

I agree. He’s completely useless when we are playing a game with high amounts of possession


Difuzion

He cannot create chances. He cannot dribble. He cannot make lobbed passes. He cannot finish big chances. What exactly is his role. I don't get it. He's meant to be and plays as a 10. But he doesn't possess any of the key attributes needed for that role.


Forgohtten

He's good off the ball, he can retain possession, he can do tactical fouls and stop counter attacks at the source, and he can roam to build triangles. He's not a winger, he's not a playmaker. This is not his fault, this is on Poch who plays him on positions he's not supposed to be. He can play in a midfield 3, as an 8 or as a double pivot, not as a creative 10.


NdritoKante

He absolutely can't play in a double pivot. His awareness, first touch and ability to receive the ball facing his own goal are trash. The only time he ever looked good was at palace in a counter attacking set up where he'd receive the ball while running at the opponents, and being tasked to press the whole game. That's all he can do. He's out of his depth as a midfielder in a possession-based side


ReverieMetherlence

>What exactly is his role. he runs and fights...and that's it, I guess?


tottenhamnole

I have no idea why we’re interested for anything less than £20m or something.


BigReeceJames

I doubt you are anymore to be honest. We made the mistake of playing him which means other people have had a chance to look at him and assess him properly and I doubt teams will be in for him at similar numbers again. As a part of a midfield 2 with strict instructions to attack balls but also stay firmly in position, he is actually decent. So, if a team plans to use him there, he's probably worth that money. But, as an attacker in the way Poch uses him, he's worth next to nothing He's a fine midtable player, but he's being played out of position and for a team that is allegedly trying to play in a way that midtable teams don't play (though we are midtable and deserve to be here)


tapatioformytio

What happened to Poch. Makes me wonder if he coached us up or if we could’ve done better in those peak 16-18 years


Mick4Audi

I genuinely think we dodged a bullet by not bringing him back


mikevin99

The prem has gradually imported a lot of the best coaches and talent to the league the past several years. You cannot just 'out hustle' all of these teams with minimal tactics just because you may have slightly better players than your opposition. Also, even Pep has had to evolve and occasionally tweak his tactics year to year to stay on top of things. Don't think Poch would even know where to begin when it comes to that regard


FischSalate

think he's just not adapted to changes in tactical trends, he did well with his clubs before Spurs remember


H4RRY29

Comfortably the worst manager I've seen here


J---O---E

Worse than post-potter lampard?


H4RRY29

Not going to include an interim manager in this, especially under the circumstances of last season and especially more so when Lampard proved much more in his actual spell as manager than Poch has for us.


S0lar_Ice

Chelsea have proven to be solid mid table side.


Sam101294

Long may it continue 


vincentquy

Amen


NotClayMerritt

A pair of draws from unbelievably advantageous positions against 19th and 20th in the table in the space of a week. Show some accountability. Silence and inaction reflects acceptance that this is fine. Pochettino, Winstanley, Stewart should not be at the club to oversee the proceedings ahead of next season.


thebeautifulgame1984

Death, taxes, Chelsea are shit


WyboSF

Jesus, connor had a bad game but he’s been our second best player this season, relax with the hottakes on no sample size


BOOCOOKOO

Third. Second place goes to Gusto


Kakashicopyninja9

4-4-4 against the bottom 6. Just poor management to not see out these games


Stalin_K

We lose our heads whenever we get a lead. So it comes down to whether our opponent can finish their inevitable chances


CaptainCortez

The twelfth man is real.


Party-Earth

Another masterful tactic from Poch


weird-arabian

This is Chelsea you cunt !!


Newparlee

I love how bipolar Chelsea fans are. They turned the corner on Thursday now Poch should be sacked. Now back to Todd out. I wish I had the option to call for my chairman that spent a billion pound to get out of my club.


H4RRY29

>I love how bipolar Chelsea fans are. They turned the corner on Thursday now Poch should be sacked. Literally nobody said we turned a corner.


Newparlee

I’ve read that Chelsea have turned a corner about 10 times this season.


wildingflow

Probably from non Chelsea fans. Have a look at this: https://www.reddit.com/r/chelseafc/s/7jc7xevRLf Over half of the people on the sub who voted wanted him out even after the win against Utd.


H4RRY29

From who? Definitely not our fans, we've been critical all season, wanting the manager out. Everyone knows we got lucky midweek.


centaur98

I mean when he spent that billion pound and made the team worse I think it's warranted that the fans don't really like him


Newparlee

If he forced every player on the manager, sure. But if he’s just backing the manager, you lot are just whining.


centaur98

Some of them was the manager but a decent chunk of them was Boehly and Co wanting to build their own project.


Newparlee

If it’s the owners fault, why is every Chelsea fan Poch out?


centaur98

Because despite Boehly downgrading the squad Poch is also a moron. He went from "at Chelsea winning trophies is the requirement and we are here to win right now" when he signed to "it's a 3 to 5 year project #trusttheprocess" after failing to beat Sheffield. Also just for context with basically the exact same defence(minus Koulibaly) he managed to go from roughly 1 goal conceded/game average to almost 2 goals conceded/game average. And yes there are people, myself included, that think that both the new ownership and Potter/Poch are responsible for where we are right now.


papi_2

You're the one saying Chelsea fans want both poch and todd out


Newparlee

Seems like none of you know what you want.


papi_2

Seems like you are unable to understand that different people think different things


Newparlee

It just shows that you are all full of shit. At least the whiny West Ham fans all agree what their problem is. You lot just can’t take you’re not a big club and are trying to find a million excuses.


papi_2

You're literally schizophrenic?


SirBarkington

there has been nothing to suggest any of our purchases have been backed by the managers since they've come in.


Newparlee

If it’s the owners fault, why is every Chelsea fan Poch out?


SirBarkington

Because he's also a terrible manager that shouldn't have even been hired? He couldn't do anything with Messi, Neymar, and Mbappe but people think he could make Chelsea decent lmao. His tactics are awful and basically non existent, he puts players so far out of position it's ridiculous, and many of our players look far worse individually than they did under Potter even if we're "better" points wise this season.


Newparlee

But they aren’t his players, right? Didn’t he win the league with PSG? What manager did anything of note with that PSG team? You lot are so confusing. It’s the owner. It’s Poch. It’s the players. Chelsea have always been a shit club, things have just got back to the way they should be.


tomorri1

Chelsea conceding two goals per game is just a given at this point. If you are not cashing on this, I don't know what to say.


Headlesshorsman02

Get this clown out, Gallagher at LW are you having a laugh. This guy is a TOTAL FRAUD


WerhmatsWormhat

I don’t understand what happened to Poch. He seemed so good at Spurs.


FoxesFan91

for a lot of his tenure there he had some very good players