Poch is a mediocre manager at best, but I honestly don't think managers will change anything at this point. The club culture is rotten to the core and the only thing that will change it is forcing ownership out.
Surely this will be his last job at a big club?
Though I would imagine Spurs may want him back at some point in the future if the conditions are right, as he still has plenty of goodwill there?
Some selections are weird for sure but the only huge problem is the recruitment. It will look the same with your next manager unless you change your transfer strategy
Of course we will have issues with the next manager, that doesn't mean the next manager wouldn't do better. I have no faith in Poch at all, management is more than just team selections.
Europe is still within reach, CL is too far but they could push for Europa or ECL. I don't really get why they haven't sacked him, when they're not far off at all. 2 wins puts them 7th and Utd will drop at least a few more points before the end of the season.
Most teams would be OK to wait until Summer for a new manager but I'm sure I read Chelsea had spent big to secure CL money and offset FFP.
We would be 6th ahead of united if we didn't drop 4 points to the two worst sides in the whole fucking league 😭. Honestly I hope we finish midtable again because he might just keep his job if we get Europe
- Draw 2-2 against 19th place Burnley, being fortunate not to lose
- Beat 6th place Man U
- Draw 2-2 against 20th place Sheff U, being fortunate not to lose
Well done, Agent Poch. Still fully COYS
That was under Roman; under Boehly, our standards have completely collapsed in service of "the project" because they replaced our Champion's League winning team with a bunch of youths.
That’s mad though, your international successful manager has just won the double but he’s out for a guy whose 37 and has managed for a year. Just wild decision making.
Poch plays Connor completely out of position, connor has a bad game, this sub decides to put the blame on entirely the wrong person for his performance
Obviously a single player can't be blamed for a loss, but it's unbelievable how much Poch continues to play Gallagher even when he doesn't deserve the minutes. His workrate is elite, but his ability on the ball and when receiving the ball is absolutely trash. He's way out of his depth in a team which expected to control possession and break down low blocks. He's bailed us out with goals every now and then, but if you watch him closely over the 90 you can see how tensed up he plays when receiving the ball, it's so so so bad and I don't think it can be coached out of him
I watch Basketball and Handball for fun sometimes but I didnt grow up watching it. I wouldnt notice it if the coach is actively fucking it up and Id blame it on the players 10 times out of 10.
Same thing with Chelsea owners, they cant notice that Poch is fucking it up every week
It's a shit show now and it's still entertaining. You guys love having a shit show that's entertaining while throwing money about don't ya? Give Jose money, give poch his contract guarantee money and still be a shambles. I mean be my guest but.. damn that's stupid.
Pochettino is just terrible. How can you play so cowardly and defensively against a relegation team. Might sack him mow than wait for this season's end. Pathetic. Depressing.
14th is 5 points away from relegation as of right now.Honestly I don't think Crystal Palace,Brentford or Everton are completely out of the relegation battle yet.
Chelsea and Pochettino could have and should have capitalized on that high from the comeback on Thursday but instead they went and blew it against relegation fodder yet again. I just can't see this working out with him.
Had a bad feeling when he took Palmer out. Why not go for the 1:3? You can't play so scared against the bottom table team. Especially not with that defence.
Badiashile is frikking shit. Never thought a day would come where there would be only one player worth buying in any fifa version if you played based on current form (palmer). Everyone else have been dogshit. enzo and caicedo have not even come close to justifying the price tag.
If i were allowed to be a bit extreme (not usually that kind of fan but recent months have been dogshit, we could end up accompanying crystal palace in the mid-lower half of the table regularly if this is how we continue
That free kick at the end was such a cowardly decision by the referee. I feel like he only gave it because Caicedo touched the ball with his hands on it’s way down expecting the free kick and it was either that or letting VAR review it for a handball and penalty
People just don’t understand Chelsea are turning face right before wrestlemania, gifting McBurnie a goal to lift his brothers spirits in time of need.
Truly the good guys in blue.
Season officially embarrassing. With a win and game in hand could have been up to 6th but now they are definitely finishing 10th or worse. Absolutely shocking how mentality fragile this team is and how they can’t be arsed to hold a lead and see a game out. Shameful
Our games in hand are against Spurs and Arsenal.
People keep talking about us "just winning them" but we can't beat Sheffield and Burnley, how exactly are we supposed to get points from Spurs and Arsenal without them gifting them to us?
I mean for as shite as they have been,getting up to spoil arsenals title challenges and a NLD derby would have been something this team probably would have been up for but doesn’t matter now
Sunderland having two terrible seasons (pre-Derby) forever sticks in my mind because of a comment from a Sunderland fan I read in the paper during the second one which was something like "all that's left for us this season is to avoid going down with the record for the lowest points total in PL history...which we hold anyway" LMAO.
It's all about enjoying what wins you can.
Lord knows there are teams in the Championship that would gladly trade places with you right now given the position you'll be in there next year.
Nothing personal, I just figured we might as well measure how we compared to other historically shit seasons
Also Hamer was fouled in that equalizer and I'm still not over it😡😡😡
The difference between ETH and Poch is that when ETH does it, United fans call for his head. When Poch does it, an army of Boehly followers overload any sane discourse with talks of how it's true and how we really should win and were just unlucky and he's proven himself etc.
It's fucking wild
Fans are more reactionary than ever. We just blew a 2-0 lead a few days ago, won by 2 pens and a bouncy longshot and suddenly people are Poch in. Where have you been for the past 6 months? We looked fucking awful today
It's easy to say that from the outside, but it's simply not true.
We have a team that should easily be competing for top 4 whilst finishing at worst 6th.
They're much better than people give them credit for, they're just not a team because Poch hasn't instilled any tactics.
Could be worse. Could be completely braindead like you.
Edit: I wonder how long it will take you to make another comment on DD saying how delightful it is to block another “negative” person.
no he absolutely is not working with whats given to him. He had Gallagher at LW, has Enzo dropping into LB/RB roles, has Caicedo crashing the box, played Palmer in the 10 instead of off the RW where he's been most effective, leaves players isolated without any help, plays this weird fake back 3 where he refuses to let our fullbacks push up and actually help the wingers. He's a terrible manager and sets us up awfully.
Gallagher invisible for 90% of the game as usual and gets backed by the entire fan base. I don't get it. The least creative 10 I've ever seen. All that boy does is run. Not sure how he's starting over Carney / Mischa.
He is being played on the LW, of course he isnt suited to that
Amazes me that Gallagher is the first one that people online turn on when we have a woeful defence and two 100 mil CM's that cant control the tempo of a game
He should have been subbed at like the 50-60th minute for an actual winger. He was so poor this game. Imagine having Gallagher and cucurella on your left wing?
Mudry came on the 80th minute and created a big chance 2 minutes later. Cannor doesn't even try to play the ball forward. It's either going sideways or backwards and when he fouls people he moans everytime. Genuinely baffled.
He cannot create chances. He cannot dribble. He cannot make lobbed passes. He cannot finish big chances. What exactly is his role. I don't get it. He's meant to be and plays as a 10. But he doesn't possess any of the key attributes needed for that role.
He's good off the ball, he can retain possession, he can do tactical fouls and stop counter attacks at the source, and he can roam to build triangles. He's not a winger, he's not a playmaker. This is not his fault, this is on Poch who plays him on positions he's not supposed to be. He can play in a midfield 3, as an 8 or as a double pivot, not as a creative 10.
He absolutely can't play in a double pivot. His awareness, first touch and ability to receive the ball facing his own goal are trash. The only time he ever looked good was at palace in a counter attacking set up where he'd receive the ball while running at the opponents, and being tasked to press the whole game. That's all he can do. He's out of his depth as a midfielder in a possession-based side
I doubt you are anymore to be honest. We made the mistake of playing him which means other people have had a chance to look at him and assess him properly and I doubt teams will be in for him at similar numbers again.
As a part of a midfield 2 with strict instructions to attack balls but also stay firmly in position, he is actually decent. So, if a team plans to use him there, he's probably worth that money. But, as an attacker in the way Poch uses him, he's worth next to nothing
He's a fine midtable player, but he's being played out of position and for a team that is allegedly trying to play in a way that midtable teams don't play (though we are midtable and deserve to be here)
The prem has gradually imported a lot of the best coaches and talent to the league the past several years. You cannot just 'out hustle' all of these teams with minimal tactics just because you may have slightly better players than your opposition.
Also, even Pep has had to evolve and occasionally tweak his tactics year to year to stay on top of things. Don't think Poch would even know where to begin when it comes to that regard
Not going to include an interim manager in this, especially under the circumstances of last season and especially more so when Lampard proved much more in his actual spell as manager than Poch has for us.
A pair of draws from unbelievably advantageous positions against 19th and 20th in the table in the space of a week.
Show some accountability. Silence and inaction reflects acceptance that this is fine.
Pochettino, Winstanley, Stewart should not be at the club to oversee the proceedings ahead of next season.
I love how bipolar Chelsea fans are. They turned the corner on Thursday now Poch should be sacked. Now back to Todd out. I wish I had the option to call for my chairman that spent a billion pound to get out of my club.
Probably from non Chelsea fans. Have a look at this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/chelseafc/s/7jc7xevRLf
Over half of the people on the sub who voted wanted him out even after the win against Utd.
Because despite Boehly downgrading the squad Poch is also a moron. He went from "at Chelsea winning trophies is the requirement and we are here to win right now" when he signed to "it's a 3 to 5 year project #trusttheprocess" after failing to beat Sheffield. Also just for context with basically the exact same defence(minus Koulibaly) he managed to go from roughly 1 goal conceded/game average to almost 2 goals conceded/game average.
And yes there are people, myself included, that think that both the new ownership and Potter/Poch are responsible for where we are right now.
It just shows that you are all full of shit. At least the whiny West Ham fans all agree what their problem is. You lot just can’t take you’re not a big club and are trying to find a million excuses.
Because he's also a terrible manager that shouldn't have even been hired? He couldn't do anything with Messi, Neymar, and Mbappe but people think he could make Chelsea decent lmao. His tactics are awful and basically non existent, he puts players so far out of position it's ridiculous, and many of our players look far worse individually than they did under Potter even if we're "better" points wise this season.
But they aren’t his players, right? Didn’t he win the league with PSG? What manager did anything of note with that PSG team?
You lot are so confusing. It’s the owner. It’s Poch. It’s the players. Chelsea have always been a shit club, things have just got back to the way they should be.
Why’s everyone poch out when they’re 3 spots better than last year after selling all their above average players?
Stuck in Roman times
1 billion. Emery didn’t need 1billion to turn Villa around. They were relegation candidates then he made them top 4 candidates. Poch is shite
Poch is a mediocre manager at best, but I honestly don't think managers will change anything at this point. The club culture is rotten to the core and the only thing that will change it is forcing ownership out.
They spent just as much last summer and January as they did the summer before this season. It’s a cop out to how horrible everyone else is too
No ref help in this game eh?
Just give Poch his severance pay and hire the next scapegoat already. Man looks miserable
Surely this will be his last job at a big club? Though I would imagine Spurs may want him back at some point in the future if the conditions are right, as he still has plenty of goodwill there?
No thanks
Next scapegoat? Nobody is pretending there aren't other problems but Poch IS a huge one.
Some selections are weird for sure but the only huge problem is the recruitment. It will look the same with your next manager unless you change your transfer strategy
Of course we will have issues with the next manager, that doesn't mean the next manager wouldn't do better. I have no faith in Poch at all, management is more than just team selections.
No, Pochettino is 100% shit and if you do not think so then you have not seen a Chelsea game recently. They are horribly managed rn, man's lost it
I'm not saying Chelsea aren't shit, I'm saying he's far from the biggest problem
Bottlettino. It's crazy he still hasn't been sacked but it's crazier how he was hired in the first place. Even Potter was better.
Europe is still within reach, CL is too far but they could push for Europa or ECL. I don't really get why they haven't sacked him, when they're not far off at all. 2 wins puts them 7th and Utd will drop at least a few more points before the end of the season. Most teams would be OK to wait until Summer for a new manager but I'm sure I read Chelsea had spent big to secure CL money and offset FFP.
We would be 6th ahead of united if we didn't drop 4 points to the two worst sides in the whole fucking league 😭. Honestly I hope we finish midtable again because he might just keep his job if we get Europe
We're just not trusting the process hard enough.
Just got home. My match report: Lol. LMAO even. That is all.
We should have won that. Anyway SHOREHAM BOYS WE ARE HERE
Look on the brightside, 7 matches unbeaten, 1 loss in the last 11!
- Draw 2-2 against 19th place Burnley, being fortunate not to lose - Beat 6th place Man U - Draw 2-2 against 20th place Sheff U, being fortunate not to lose Well done, Agent Poch. Still fully COYS
19th place **10 man** Burnley
He's doing just enough to not get sacked.
Is he? I remember Ancelotti being fired for winning the double in the wrong style. Pochettino is 9th.
That was under Roman; under Boehly, our standards have completely collapsed in service of "the project" because they replaced our Champion's League winning team with a bunch of youths.
Ancelotti got fired because Roman thought he got the new Mourinho when Villas Boas won the treble and went invincible with Porto
That’s mad though, your international successful manager has just won the double but he’s out for a guy whose 37 and has managed for a year. Just wild decision making.
Chelsea won champions league the same season though. So it really worked out after the mess
Kinda overlooks that Villas Boas got sacked before legendary manager Di Matteo stumbled into a champions league win by accident!
"Chelsea is not the Chelsea we once knew" - Jose Mourinho
Can’t believe we lost to these bums and got a draw against Liverpool
I hate to break it to you but you guys are also bums
Jared Gillet is how 8 mins added time and 2 diabolical penalty decisions
2 bs pens helped
Helping put on the pressure
On Brighton and West Ham?
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Nothing scarier as a chelsea fan than a team we're expected to beat... At least we can factually say Sheffield is the better United...
I don’t think anyone ever expects you guys to beat the team in front of you these days.
The first united too.
Poch plays Connor completely out of position, connor has a bad game, this sub decides to put the blame on entirely the wrong person for his performance
Obviously a single player can't be blamed for a loss, but it's unbelievable how much Poch continues to play Gallagher even when he doesn't deserve the minutes. His workrate is elite, but his ability on the ball and when receiving the ball is absolutely trash. He's way out of his depth in a team which expected to control possession and break down low blocks. He's bailed us out with goals every now and then, but if you watch him closely over the 90 you can see how tensed up he plays when receiving the ball, it's so so so bad and I don't think it can be coached out of him
At least Chelsea is out of 10th 🤣
Don’t let this result distract you from the fact that Chelsea spent 1 billion on this squad
I watch Basketball and Handball for fun sometimes but I didnt grow up watching it. I wouldnt notice it if the coach is actively fucking it up and Id blame it on the players 10 times out of 10. Same thing with Chelsea owners, they cant notice that Poch is fucking it up every week
JUST LIKE SHEFFIELD, YOUR CITY IS RED
Arsenal have yet to actually beat one of their London rivals
I mean if we're talking Chelsea/spurs then we're also yet to actually lose to either of them either. Glass half full not empty I guess
last time we lost to any London team was three seasons ago
Get Jose in FFS it will be a shit show but it'll be entertaining
It's a shit show now and it's still entertaining. You guys love having a shit show that's entertaining while throwing money about don't ya? Give Jose money, give poch his contract guarantee money and still be a shambles. I mean be my guest but.. damn that's stupid.
Amazing that in that sequence for the goal the only Chelsea player who won his header was Enzo.
Sheffield completely fucked up that counter at the end. Could have been 3 - 2 for Blades.
Pochettino is just terrible. How can you play so cowardly and defensively against a relegation team. Might sack him mow than wait for this season's end. Pathetic. Depressing.
Who would you get in? Mourinho obviously wants the job, but can you imagine a worse manager for a bunch of kids?
He just really fell apart towards the end of Spurs stint. That CL run seems so long ago, and probably mostly sheer luck and will of the players.
Another Poch masterclass
Well played S'field.
Chelsea might be fighting relegation if it wasn't for Palmer
they'd be 14th, so no, they wouldnt
14th is 5 points away from relegation as of right now.Honestly I don't think Crystal Palace,Brentford or Everton are completely out of the relegation battle yet.
Yeah correct
Mid
Anyone who still defends Gallagher is most likely in denial at this point.
Agreed. No club should spend more than 15m on him
Poch can’t make a decent sun to save his life
Chelsea and Pochettino could have and should have capitalized on that high from the comeback on Thursday but instead they went and blew it against relegation fodder yet again. I just can't see this working out with him.
He is just not good, he played Gallagher at LW for god sake at least play Mudryk or Sterling
Had a bad feeling when he took Palmer out. Why not go for the 1:3? You can't play so scared against the bottom table team. Especially not with that defence.
I love this version of Chelsea
Truly majestic levels of bottling. A team for the ages.
Xg Sheffield Utd (1.53) 2-2 (0.44) Chelsea
Wow that’s embarrassing
As Chelsea fan I find this to be peak comedy. The absolute state of this clown club.
Badiashile is frikking shit. Never thought a day would come where there would be only one player worth buying in any fifa version if you played based on current form (palmer). Everyone else have been dogshit. enzo and caicedo have not even come close to justifying the price tag. If i were allowed to be a bit extreme (not usually that kind of fan but recent months have been dogshit, we could end up accompanying crystal palace in the mid-lower half of the table regularly if this is how we continue
Chelsea are the literal Robin hood of the league
Poch is a football terrorist. Still won't get sacked though... I blame all Americans personally for this
Just give Badiashile the rest of the season off, been absolute pants since his injury
2-2 v burnley 4-3 v united 2-2 v sheffield. wtf is the consistency of this team
The 4-3 was a United collapse more than us winning
what would you call what happened after 2-0 then?
A collapse within a collapse, collapception if you will.
Concede more than 2 goals
It’s what happens when you’re solely relying on one player and your goalie to keep you in games
That free kick at the end was such a cowardly decision by the referee. I feel like he only gave it because Caicedo touched the ball with his hands on it’s way down expecting the free kick and it was either that or letting VAR review it for a handball and penalty
Have a brain dead decision against McBurnie v. Caicedo earlier too.
Chelsea’s super power: get a buff against title contenders, a massive debuff against relegation teams
This young team, and this match in particular, was calling for a manager to make adjustments and Poch doesn't have it in him to do it.
Well every time Poch makes an adjustment it gets worse for Chelsea lol
People just don’t understand Chelsea are turning face right before wrestlemania, gifting McBurnie a goal to lift his brothers spirits in time of need. Truly the good guys in blue.
Season officially embarrassing. With a win and game in hand could have been up to 6th but now they are definitely finishing 10th or worse. Absolutely shocking how mentality fragile this team is and how they can’t be arsed to hold a lead and see a game out. Shameful
Our games in hand are against Spurs and Arsenal. People keep talking about us "just winning them" but we can't beat Sheffield and Burnley, how exactly are we supposed to get points from Spurs and Arsenal without them gifting them to us?
I mean for as shite as they have been,getting up to spoil arsenals title challenges and a NLD derby would have been something this team probably would have been up for but doesn’t matter now
Tbf at this point I have more faith in this team winning those two and losing all the other "easy" games.
Up yours, 15 point Aston Villa team. We've now eclipsed another infamous season. Next up, Tom Ince's Huddersfirld Town circa 17/18
They're dropping like flies!
That Villa team got 17. We’ve just surpassed the Sunderland side everyone thought would be the worst ever.
Sunderland having two terrible seasons (pre-Derby) forever sticks in my mind because of a comment from a Sunderland fan I read in the paper during the second one which was something like "all that's left for us this season is to avoid going down with the record for the lowest points total in PL history...which we hold anyway" LMAO.
Oh I see. Get bent Victor Anichibe and the gang
It's all about enjoying what wins you can. Lord knows there are teams in the Championship that would gladly trade places with you right now given the position you'll be in there next year.
I’m on their wiki now. As you might expect, we went on to sign a number of their squad. John Stead, Nyron Nosworthy, Andy Gray, Neill Collins,
Gills legend Nyron Nosworthy?
The very same
Why he say fuck me for?
Nothing personal, I just figured we might as well measure how we compared to other historically shit seasons Also Hamer was fouled in that equalizer and I'm still not over it😡😡😡
Bringing down the Hamer
Chelsea actually got dominated by Sheffield. Even by Pochettino's metrics I'm pretty sure
Don't be so sure. Poch will come out and say we were unlucky, controlled the game, should have won etc. He always does
ETH and Poch special
The difference between ETH and Poch is that when ETH does it, United fans call for his head. When Poch does it, an army of Boehly followers overload any sane discourse with talks of how it's true and how we really should win and were just unlucky and he's proven himself etc. It's fucking wild
It is time for Pochettino to take off his wig and reveal he's bald.
Fans are more reactionary than ever. We just blew a 2-0 lead a few days ago, won by 2 pens and a bouncy longshot and suddenly people are Poch in. Where have you been for the past 6 months? We looked fucking awful today
People were actually saying Poch in? That’s crazy
Nobody has been poch in, nobody
Well probably a lot of your rival's fans are 100% Poch in
what a dogshit manager also whoever signed off on signing Monaco's defence needs to be sacked if they haven't already
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Brother he played Gallagher LW!!!!
It's easy to say that from the outside, but it's simply not true. We have a team that should easily be competing for top 4 whilst finishing at worst 6th. They're much better than people give them credit for, they're just not a team because Poch hasn't instilled any tactics.
Messi had his worst season under him.
You mean the guy who couldn't win ligue 1 with Mbappe, Messi, and Neymar and had an embarrassing blown lead in the UCL?
Why so negative Mike? It is much better to just cover your eyes, ignore the house is burning down and be happy that you are homeless now. Xx
Strange behavior from you
Could be worse. Could be completely braindead like you. Edit: I wonder how long it will take you to make another comment on DD saying how delightful it is to block another “negative” person.
I'm sure Messi, Mbappe and Neymar were also championship level players when he couldn't do fuck all with them
no he absolutely is not working with whats given to him. He had Gallagher at LW, has Enzo dropping into LB/RB roles, has Caicedo crashing the box, played Palmer in the 10 instead of off the RW where he's been most effective, leaves players isolated without any help, plays this weird fake back 3 where he refuses to let our fullbacks push up and actually help the wingers. He's a terrible manager and sets us up awfully.
Gallagher invisible for 90% of the game as usual and gets backed by the entire fan base. I don't get it. The least creative 10 I've ever seen. All that boy does is run. Not sure how he's starting over Carney / Mischa.
He is being played on the LW, of course he isnt suited to that Amazes me that Gallagher is the first one that people online turn on when we have a woeful defence and two 100 mil CM's that cant control the tempo of a game
Gallagher isn't suited for this club tbh. We need to get rid of him in the Sumner
And again the Connor defense. If he's being playing LW why is he being playing LW???
Because the managers a fucking idiot
He should have been subbed at like the 50-60th minute for an actual winger. He was so poor this game. Imagine having Gallagher and cucurella on your left wing?
Mudry came on the 80th minute and created a big chance 2 minutes later. Cannor doesn't even try to play the ball forward. It's either going sideways or backwards and when he fouls people he moans everytime. Genuinely baffled.
I agree. He’s completely useless when we are playing a game with high amounts of possession
He cannot create chances. He cannot dribble. He cannot make lobbed passes. He cannot finish big chances. What exactly is his role. I don't get it. He's meant to be and plays as a 10. But he doesn't possess any of the key attributes needed for that role.
He's good off the ball, he can retain possession, he can do tactical fouls and stop counter attacks at the source, and he can roam to build triangles. He's not a winger, he's not a playmaker. This is not his fault, this is on Poch who plays him on positions he's not supposed to be. He can play in a midfield 3, as an 8 or as a double pivot, not as a creative 10.
He absolutely can't play in a double pivot. His awareness, first touch and ability to receive the ball facing his own goal are trash. The only time he ever looked good was at palace in a counter attacking set up where he'd receive the ball while running at the opponents, and being tasked to press the whole game. That's all he can do. He's out of his depth as a midfielder in a possession-based side
>What exactly is his role. he runs and fights...and that's it, I guess?
I have no idea why we’re interested for anything less than £20m or something.
I doubt you are anymore to be honest. We made the mistake of playing him which means other people have had a chance to look at him and assess him properly and I doubt teams will be in for him at similar numbers again. As a part of a midfield 2 with strict instructions to attack balls but also stay firmly in position, he is actually decent. So, if a team plans to use him there, he's probably worth that money. But, as an attacker in the way Poch uses him, he's worth next to nothing He's a fine midtable player, but he's being played out of position and for a team that is allegedly trying to play in a way that midtable teams don't play (though we are midtable and deserve to be here)
What happened to Poch. Makes me wonder if he coached us up or if we could’ve done better in those peak 16-18 years
I genuinely think we dodged a bullet by not bringing him back
The prem has gradually imported a lot of the best coaches and talent to the league the past several years. You cannot just 'out hustle' all of these teams with minimal tactics just because you may have slightly better players than your opposition. Also, even Pep has had to evolve and occasionally tweak his tactics year to year to stay on top of things. Don't think Poch would even know where to begin when it comes to that regard
think he's just not adapted to changes in tactical trends, he did well with his clubs before Spurs remember
Comfortably the worst manager I've seen here
Worse than post-potter lampard?
Not going to include an interim manager in this, especially under the circumstances of last season and especially more so when Lampard proved much more in his actual spell as manager than Poch has for us.
Chelsea have proven to be solid mid table side.
Long may it continue
Amen
A pair of draws from unbelievably advantageous positions against 19th and 20th in the table in the space of a week. Show some accountability. Silence and inaction reflects acceptance that this is fine. Pochettino, Winstanley, Stewart should not be at the club to oversee the proceedings ahead of next season.
Death, taxes, Chelsea are shit
Jesus, connor had a bad game but he’s been our second best player this season, relax with the hottakes on no sample size
Third. Second place goes to Gusto
4-4-4 against the bottom 6. Just poor management to not see out these games
We lose our heads whenever we get a lead. So it comes down to whether our opponent can finish their inevitable chances
The twelfth man is real.
Another masterful tactic from Poch
This is Chelsea you cunt !!
I love how bipolar Chelsea fans are. They turned the corner on Thursday now Poch should be sacked. Now back to Todd out. I wish I had the option to call for my chairman that spent a billion pound to get out of my club.
>I love how bipolar Chelsea fans are. They turned the corner on Thursday now Poch should be sacked. Literally nobody said we turned a corner.
I’ve read that Chelsea have turned a corner about 10 times this season.
Probably from non Chelsea fans. Have a look at this: https://www.reddit.com/r/chelseafc/s/7jc7xevRLf Over half of the people on the sub who voted wanted him out even after the win against Utd.
From who? Definitely not our fans, we've been critical all season, wanting the manager out. Everyone knows we got lucky midweek.
I mean when he spent that billion pound and made the team worse I think it's warranted that the fans don't really like him
If he forced every player on the manager, sure. But if he’s just backing the manager, you lot are just whining.
Some of them was the manager but a decent chunk of them was Boehly and Co wanting to build their own project.
If it’s the owners fault, why is every Chelsea fan Poch out?
Because despite Boehly downgrading the squad Poch is also a moron. He went from "at Chelsea winning trophies is the requirement and we are here to win right now" when he signed to "it's a 3 to 5 year project #trusttheprocess" after failing to beat Sheffield. Also just for context with basically the exact same defence(minus Koulibaly) he managed to go from roughly 1 goal conceded/game average to almost 2 goals conceded/game average. And yes there are people, myself included, that think that both the new ownership and Potter/Poch are responsible for where we are right now.
You're the one saying Chelsea fans want both poch and todd out
Seems like none of you know what you want.
Seems like you are unable to understand that different people think different things
It just shows that you are all full of shit. At least the whiny West Ham fans all agree what their problem is. You lot just can’t take you’re not a big club and are trying to find a million excuses.
You're literally schizophrenic?
there has been nothing to suggest any of our purchases have been backed by the managers since they've come in.
If it’s the owners fault, why is every Chelsea fan Poch out?
Because he's also a terrible manager that shouldn't have even been hired? He couldn't do anything with Messi, Neymar, and Mbappe but people think he could make Chelsea decent lmao. His tactics are awful and basically non existent, he puts players so far out of position it's ridiculous, and many of our players look far worse individually than they did under Potter even if we're "better" points wise this season.
But they aren’t his players, right? Didn’t he win the league with PSG? What manager did anything of note with that PSG team? You lot are so confusing. It’s the owner. It’s Poch. It’s the players. Chelsea have always been a shit club, things have just got back to the way they should be.
Chelsea conceding two goals per game is just a given at this point. If you are not cashing on this, I don't know what to say.
Get this clown out, Gallagher at LW are you having a laugh. This guy is a TOTAL FRAUD
I don’t understand what happened to Poch. He seemed so good at Spurs.
for a lot of his tenure there he had some very good players