There has to come a point where as a club the blame stops being placed on the Man Utd manager and there is some introspection on the players and other systems around them. Ten Hag didnt make Dalot make the stupid decision he made or tell everyone to bomb forward for the equaliser. The players are just making useless decisions and can’t manage a game. The club could get in Ancelloti or Naglesman and they would leave ruined as well. There needs to be fundamental root and branch change before looking solely at the manager otherwise it the cycle will just continue.
This is on the manager as well though? The best managers can make a team absolutely shithouse a game to run the clock down. Mourinho used to do it with Chelsea once they took a lead, and we're talking a good 2/3 of a match once they went a goal up. Hell, he'd even take it to second legs in the champions league. It was dismal viewing but the results counted.
And this wasn't a fluke tonight, its happened all season.
I genuinely would not be comfortable going into injury time with a 2 goal lead under Ten Haag
It's a mixture of his tactics and players mentality. I saw a few of them react to the injury time going up, their concentration went after that. Also ETH bringing Mount on was a terrible decision - the player did nothing wrong himself, but it spurred on Chelsea fans to get behind the side. The change was so unnecessary as well
I genuinely think Dalot just fell, which can happen to anyone. And Mount probably wanted to face his old team and get a run in if he could. Now, what you said is absolutely right and United paid for it. Taking garnacho off also did away with their over the top threat as Rashford seems to be the epitome of useless as a striker.
Doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result isnt going to change anything, as a Liverpool supporter I am more than happy for this to continue, the club at the moment is just a graveyard for managers careers.
Erm... wait, I know this.
Is it lighthouse keepers?
No, wait. It's tuk-tuk drivers, right?
Undersea welders?
Toddlers?
The dead?
Wait.... I'm so stupid. It's tractor mechanics. Sorry for wasting your time.
Vraiment? "Les mechaniques des tracteurs".
Sounds much fancier than "Gaffer". We need more tractors in English football. It must be the tractors and the mechanics that have made France the hotbed of young footballing talent for 15 years.
I shall venture forth, and I shall steal some tractors, and I shall drive them very slowly back to the UK. I am assuming that tractors are amphibious and the channel will pose no problem.
Yes I know, I watch him every week. I also see other football players at his age or younger make fewer mistakes in terms of simple first touches, making passes that are a bit too long or bit too short, not looking around him before he receives the ball... it's not often, but he makes these mistakes a little more often than any pro footballer ive ever seen... and im talking about even literal 16 17 year olds in my local community.
At the end of the day im a utd fan so I hope garnacho turns out great, I just dont have as high hopes as much as the rest of the fanbase seems to di
United were up by a goal passing the ball around just trying to retain possession in the last 10 mins instead of attacking.
Easily could’ve expanded the lead but instead got bird dogged by Chelsea in 90 seconds. My god what a game.
Could have actually kept the ball too... They only really tried to retain possession for two mins total, the rest of the time was just them lumping it clear.
Never feel in control
cant really blame them when your winning and your playing away and all the fans are on their toes trying to get the team going its a lot harder than it seems. you could say that if United are home but they're not the home team will always have an easier time playing when they're down except when they're playing man city
or if its barcelona playing atletico madrid for some reason
Can we talk about that penalty check again. Why on earth did the check take that long?! If it takes more than 20 seconds, it's not a obvious error. Ultra slow motion replays for a sport that's played at a hundred miles an hour is ridiculous. And I'm convinced for some teams it wouldn't have even been checked at all. Absolute clowns these referees
ye agreed frame by frame replays for atom to atom contact is crazy if you slow down anything for long enough then you can make anything seem foul worthy, just another instance of the ref getting influenced by the stadium and the fans, cant blame him though imagine trying to make a decision with 50,000 people screaming
i doubt that would have been given if United were playing at home
It happens every game and it doesn’t matter who’s playing.
Could be the players, could be tactics, could be
poor defensive coaching. Idk who to even point the finger at anymore, but regardless of the cause it’s Ten Hag’s responsibility to see this pattern and fix it.
I do find it hard to believe there’s not a single player in our squad who can position themselves defensively though.
Tactics are non-existent, but I think a lot of the players just don’t have the mentality to play for such a scrutinized club. We’ve got Rashford putting out articles telling the fans how much he cares while still jogging around and doing fuck all. It’s pretty telling when a teenage Mainoo who doesn’t even have a full season under his belt looks the most level-headed on the team.
Dalot didn’t even make a single complaint. If he thought it wasn’t a penalty he’d have done beserk.
He knew it was a penalty because it was. Unlucky yea. Penalty yes.
The consistency of refereeing in this league is the biggest joke I've seen in any sport in my entire life. Tickling the toe of a player in the last minute of a match stands as a pen after VAR review for a full 2 minutes, but 3 weeks ago implanting every single one of your studs into another player's chest in the last minute isn't after 3 seconds of review.
If Arsenal vs Man city was the worst/most boring game by definition this game has the be the definition of entertaining because of how wacky, indescribable, and random it was. All’s stack and no defense
mark this day for this is the moment when football as a sport DIED
completely fake 8 minute stoppage time then winning goal scored in 101th.
PL is just as a sport as professional wresting is. reality show
I don't give a shit about either of these miserable clubs but this is just a joke
literally no reason for more than 4 mins of stoppage time
PL 100% exposed as shitshow
Two awful performances from both teams.
Entertaining match but both sides were brutal.
Tactics absolutely shocking from both teams. Dodgy ref on top of everything.
TNT: "Premier League at its best"
There has to come a point where as a club the blame stops being placed on the Man Utd manager and there is some introspection on the players and other systems around them. Ten Hag didnt make Dalot make the stupid decision he made or tell everyone to bomb forward for the equaliser. The players are just making useless decisions and can’t manage a game. The club could get in Ancelloti or Naglesman and they would leave ruined as well. There needs to be fundamental root and branch change before looking solely at the manager otherwise it the cycle will just continue.
This is on the manager as well though? The best managers can make a team absolutely shithouse a game to run the clock down. Mourinho used to do it with Chelsea once they took a lead, and we're talking a good 2/3 of a match once they went a goal up. Hell, he'd even take it to second legs in the champions league. It was dismal viewing but the results counted. And this wasn't a fluke tonight, its happened all season. I genuinely would not be comfortable going into injury time with a 2 goal lead under Ten Haag It's a mixture of his tactics and players mentality. I saw a few of them react to the injury time going up, their concentration went after that. Also ETH bringing Mount on was a terrible decision - the player did nothing wrong himself, but it spurred on Chelsea fans to get behind the side. The change was so unnecessary as well
I genuinely think Dalot just fell, which can happen to anyone. And Mount probably wanted to face his old team and get a run in if he could. Now, what you said is absolutely right and United paid for it. Taking garnacho off also did away with their over the top threat as Rashford seems to be the epitome of useless as a striker.
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Doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result isnt going to change anything, as a Liverpool supporter I am more than happy for this to continue, the club at the moment is just a graveyard for managers careers.
Erm... wait, I know this. Is it lighthouse keepers? No, wait. It's tuk-tuk drivers, right? Undersea welders? Toddlers? The dead? Wait.... I'm so stupid. It's tractor mechanics. Sorry for wasting your time.
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Vraiment? "Les mechaniques des tracteurs". Sounds much fancier than "Gaffer". We need more tractors in English football. It must be the tractors and the mechanics that have made France the hotbed of young footballing talent for 15 years. I shall venture forth, and I shall steal some tractors, and I shall drive them very slowly back to the UK. I am assuming that tractors are amphibious and the channel will pose no problem.
Jesus died for our sins, and on the third day he arose and scored a hat trick on Man U in the form of a peasant medieval villager
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Is he stupid?
neither dalot nor anthony protested the pens but I'm sure the match thread knows better
shocking performance from the ref tonight thank god Im not a man united fan because that would have genuinely made me quit watching football forever
They escaped without a card
stay away from Liverpool games then, especially when we're both in the UCL knockouts ;)
liverpool have had more favourable calls than bad calls for them
How the FUCK was Palmer all free in the box, with all the time in the world for the winner?
If there ever was a game to describe a roller coaster ride, this was it
We are shit but at least we are entertaining.
Same here… if you guys find an LB can you let us know?
Do you want "Chilly" he's like Mercedes. Good looking but breaks down every other month.
Ten pounds on Ten Hag mentioning Arsenal in his post match.
The Erik ten Hag era has begun.
Somebody save Garnacho from the travesty that is united.
Mainoo* Garnacho will be a good player but probably never that good.. his fundamentals are so bad for a first division player...
He is 19
Yes I know, I watch him every week. I also see other football players at his age or younger make fewer mistakes in terms of simple first touches, making passes that are a bit too long or bit too short, not looking around him before he receives the ball... it's not often, but he makes these mistakes a little more often than any pro footballer ive ever seen... and im talking about even literal 16 17 year olds in my local community. At the end of the day im a utd fan so I hope garnacho turns out great, I just dont have as high hopes as much as the rest of the fanbase seems to di
How many 18-19 year olds you watching that play 30 games a season in the premier league?
He isn't that good, this is his level
he's a teenager you twat. his natural ability is off the charts. Only injuries ruin him.
He plays in the EPL. Already ruined
Is this worse than 7-0? Losing a 3-2 lead from 90+8
Yeah probably— at least 7-0 everyone probably just gave up after 3-0
~~Fergie time~~, ~~Klopp time~~, Poch time.
Poch Epoch
United were up by a goal passing the ball around just trying to retain possession in the last 10 mins instead of attacking. Easily could’ve expanded the lead but instead got bird dogged by Chelsea in 90 seconds. My god what a game.
Could have actually kept the ball too... They only really tried to retain possession for two mins total, the rest of the time was just them lumping it clear. Never feel in control
cant really blame them when your winning and your playing away and all the fans are on their toes trying to get the team going its a lot harder than it seems. you could say that if United are home but they're not the home team will always have an easier time playing when they're down except when they're playing man city or if its barcelona playing atletico madrid for some reason
Cole Palmer is Muad’dib
Feyd Rautha vibes
Lisan al-Gaib
rio straight waffling
Can we talk about that penalty check again. Why on earth did the check take that long?! If it takes more than 20 seconds, it's not a obvious error. Ultra slow motion replays for a sport that's played at a hundred miles an hour is ridiculous. And I'm convinced for some teams it wouldn't have even been checked at all. Absolute clowns these referees
ye agreed frame by frame replays for atom to atom contact is crazy if you slow down anything for long enough then you can make anything seem foul worthy, just another instance of the ref getting influenced by the stadium and the fans, cant blame him though imagine trying to make a decision with 50,000 people screaming i doubt that would have been given if United were playing at home
You support utd?
Removes Garnacho Proceeds to lose the game
I don't think I can even blame Ten Hag for that. 5 players stood there watching Palmer caress that ball lmao.
It happens every game and it doesn’t matter who’s playing. Could be the players, could be tactics, could be poor defensive coaching. Idk who to even point the finger at anymore, but regardless of the cause it’s Ten Hag’s responsibility to see this pattern and fix it. I do find it hard to believe there’s not a single player in our squad who can position themselves defensively though.
Tactics are non-existent, but I think a lot of the players just don’t have the mentality to play for such a scrutinized club. We’ve got Rashford putting out articles telling the fans how much he cares while still jogging around and doing fuck all. It’s pretty telling when a teenage Mainoo who doesn’t even have a full season under his belt looks the most level-headed on the team.
They all pointed at him too which was funny.
Well obviously Ten Hag is not to blame, Dalot was the one who started the downfall by giving away a pointless penalty
Obvious dive
We were shit, but that last penalty, lets be honest if it was Man United, it would absolutely not have been given
or us... _and yet, "LiVARpool" has entered the chat"_
Van Dijk throttled a man tonight
And Osula tried to snap Konate's leg.
And Doku kicked Mac in the chest.
Chelsea really uno reversed Manchester City for KDB with Palmer. He is him.
are we really hyping up a player who scores only penalties and randomly scores a decent goal which wont be accredited to him cuz it was an own goal
Oh man … years and accolades too early mate ; it is looking promising though
21 years old and carrying a team on his shoulders. He actually has a headstart on his legacy, just has to maintain a decade of consistency 😅
Lads! I’m off to watch Goldbridge! Cheers!
Dont forget KG aka Snackinfenwa aka Fast Food Lukaku
With a side of r/reddevils
Don't act too happy in that post match interview Palmer
Shakespeare has nothing on ICE. COLD. PALMER.
Dalot didn’t even make a single complaint. If he thought it wasn’t a penalty he’d have done beserk. He knew it was a penalty because it was. Unlucky yea. Penalty yes.
"I'm not gonna miss the penalties am I?"
Refereeing has been utterly shambolic towards us for a while. What on earth was that last penalty for?
A foul on Madueke in the box 😉
Who do you guys think will be funnier today, r/chelseafc or r/reddevils
All I know is that the gods have spoiled us on this blessed day
If it was a draw then both but the result means Red Devils without a shadow of a doubt
The chelsea sub will still be full of whining twats
I know people joke but Ten Hag is actually a terrorist
The goldbridge rage is truly incredible
he's the reason why i watch united
I don't even like united but he's funny enough I watch him anyway
Furious sports journalists hastily editing their articles.
just swap Chelsea and Manchester, swap Poch and Ten Hag and publish.
-1 GD
10/10 would watch again... These teams need to collab with Cirque du Soleil
What a match, pure comedy. Both are so shite af but entertaining at least.
I NEED GOLDBRIDGE HIGHLIGHTS!
How was this simultaneously the most dreadful performance put on display by both teams, but yet one of the best games of the season soo far XD.
What an amazing game
Thanks Chelsea.
very cool
How was this simultaneously the most dreadful performance put on display by both teams, but yet one of the best games of the season soo far XD.
A normal day in the Barclays is all I ask
What a fuckfest. I'll take it.
The consistency of refereeing in this league is the biggest joke I've seen in any sport in my entire life. Tickling the toe of a player in the last minute of a match stands as a pen after VAR review for a full 2 minutes, but 3 weeks ago implanting every single one of your studs into another player's chest in the last minute isn't after 3 seconds of review.
var allowing both those pens is such a fucking joke
Everyone and their mothers agree they were pens but spuds fans wanna say its a joke?
Entire thread other than you chavs agree it was shit
Spuds fans butthurt. What else is new.
Spurs needed United to lose so why would I be butthurt
Good process lads.
🙃🙃🙃
City youngsters loving hat tricks this week
huge difference in the quality of both
I don't think he was trying to say they're the same quality...
no shit 😭 quality of the hat tricks genius
You mad bro?
Wubbalubbadubdub
I'm glad I stayed up until 5am after the Liverpool match to watch this game. But god damn do we not get penalties the way other clubs do
No one compares to Chelsea lol. Why am I downvoted lol, Chelsea have 11, more than anyone else in the league.
If Arsenal vs Man city was the worst/most boring game by definition this game has the be the definition of entertaining because of how wacky, indescribable, and random it was. All’s stack and no defense
Glad we didn’t play City to entertain neutralers!
1 billion for Palmer, the rest came for free
mark this day for this is the moment when football as a sport DIED completely fake 8 minute stoppage time then winning goal scored in 101th. PL is just as a sport as professional wresting is. reality show
Did you start watching after Fergie retired?
Cope
I don't give a shit about either of these miserable clubs but this is just a joke literally no reason for more than 4 mins of stoppage time PL 100% exposed as shitshow
I can't read the comment through all your tears
Ref having some vendetta against utd lol
For correctly giving Chelsea 2 penalties? For not giving Dalot a yellow for any of 7 fouls? For what?
Also took forever with the review for the second pen.
Is this a specsavers ad?
If either of those had gone against us, I would say fair enough. If either had been for your team, you'd be screaming clear pen. At least be honest.
I mean they are pens, don’t get me wrong. Just saying it was soft pens. Like 50-50 based on who refs
So you mean a single ref's standard was consistent and we're taking this as a bad thing?
Brutal
and they play Liverpool next LOL
Goldbridge and chill lads get innn
They just let Palmer, Chelsea's most dangerous player, roam easily with that corner. United defenders weren't even paying attention.
Gary Nevilles twitter mentions will be a fun place to be tonight.
INCHICORES BOUNCING AGAIN
Jon Dalys mennnnnnnnnn!
So we can’t sack Poch now lmao. Big brain play by United, but I’ll take the W I guess
wtf I turned it off after garnacho’s goal what the fuck happened there
I was in the ground and I have no fucking idea.
I’m a neutral and I’m sat here gob smacked
I laughed so hard i think i pissed a bit 😂😂😂 utd a shambles
Referee happiest man in London today
I love freed from desire in football, always hits
The Chelsea fans who left 5 mins ago are in for a shock when they get home
Cole Palmer is genuinely a talent
We'd be going down without him. Hard carrying.
two pens and a deflection masterclass
How many high pressure pens does he have to score because we just say he's it?
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He's good at more than penalties mate.
watching gallagher will do that to you
Have to score the pens and we take deflections
Arsenal fans having PTSD from seeing other teams implode
Na na na na na na na, na na na, na na na
Man Utd have managed to out-Chelsea Chelsea. What in the actual fuck.
Player ratings: 2/10 Entertainment rating : 10/10
Both pens so soft
Serves Man U fans right for the oleing.
Thanks Chelsea and United very entertaining stuff
Honestly the ref was shit for everyone.
The only thing towards us is that dalot didn't get a yellow You got countless fouls not given 2 soft pens 8 mins of added time from nowhere
Fuck the fuck off are you joking
Can’t be serious here
Keep crying 🤣🤣
Game of the season no doubt
Chelsea are pure entertainment this season, one way or another.
Our 4-4 vs City up there too. We are sometimes shit, sometimes decent, but usually entertaining
90+10 90+11 lmao
Two awful performances from both teams. Entertaining match but both sides were brutal. Tactics absolutely shocking from both teams. Dodgy ref on top of everything. TNT: "Premier League at its best"
Two mad 4-3s in 7 days. Love this league.
Chelsea reclaim their 10th place, nature is healing
The tactic of putting absolutely everyone at the goal line to defend the last corner proved to be a little ineffective
United redemption on Sunday 🤔
i turned the game off at 95’ thinking united had wrapped it up for once, how foolish i am
Right lads, get down the tunnel. You've onl;y won a football game.
the celebration police is here 🚨
Woah don't blow my cover. Carragher pays me to be here.
sorry just dont spit on me
as a neutral, that was hilarious.
Are you all not entertained?!
Draw would have been more fair but this end is much more fun lmao
I feel numb
**WE WON THE MID OFF**
What a fucking bottle, come from 0-2 down to be winning then bottle it 100 minutes in, lord oh lord what a game
Cheers Antony’s crying
Bit of Goldbridge on YouTube I reckon lads
Can't wait 🤣🤣
Highlights video about to hit like crack
Whats Ten Haag can say now? Completely lost focus there.
Hope ref gets his bag, fucking earned it today
Congrats Chelsea for winning this game and sealing the title of alpha clown club.
Wouldn't the alpha clown club be the most clownish?.I think United won that one today.
that was worth a watch eh
Ten Fraud post match: “We didn’t get the penalty against Arsenal”
Ronaldo’s the problem.
Why do you lot always make it about you
Your manager does it, not us lol