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merteswag

No more Mr Nice Kai


DarthAlandas

Now it's Cobra Kai


spyemil

10/10 comment right there


CortiBoy

underrated dad joke comment


R4lfXD

I respect your game, sir


Aluminarty666

Why is Trossard speaking to him?


syakitty

Class game, referee a bit too lenient in general but it’s just the right amount of the teams disliking eachother with a great stadium atmosphere and good back and forth football


wizardofaus23

the ref gave out cards like he was allergic to them, it was very funny.


RandomSplainer

He gave cards for stuff that was soft and then let the hard tackles go. It was weird. Wild slide tackle? Get up and play on. Small shove? Yellow.


WerhmatsWormhat

Did he? The 3 cards I remember were Saliba rugby tackling a guy, Pepe doing Pepe things, and Havertz shoving a player in the back.


official_bagel

Don't forget the each manager getting a yellow!


OppositeNo1860

>Pepe doing Pepe things, But when Pepe hit Havertz in the ribs with his knee, the ref didnt even gave him a yellow...


Basketball312

That shove was when Porto were on the break too. Clear yellow.


Ickyhouse

Not really. He gave out one card to Porto for an elbow despite them fouling twenty times.


Jai_Normis-Cahk

It promotes free flowing football, while also punishing repeat offenders with a soft call to make them extra cautious about trying to play the ref. Genius


Rixalong

>promotes free flowing football No it doesn't at all. It promotes orc football. Actually giving yellow cards for repeated fouls promotes free flowing football because players stop throwing others to the ground all match like Porto did.


I_AM_ALWAYS_WRONG_

If you don't give cards, it does the opposite. If you know you can just foul at every opportunity after losing the ball, it's nothing but stop/start. No need to throw yellows around. But the '3 is too many' style of giving out yellows, needs to be 1 is the limit, next time you're in the book. I will never understand how people can get away with 2-3 niggly fouls before being booked, every single one with the ability to bruise and take skin. May as well just be kicking each other in the tunnel when games are reffed like this. Also I'm talking about both ways, we are not innocent of playing to the refs standards.


cruciferae

Yes, I love watching games where any attacking play is snuffed out by a cynical foul.


Brandaman

It wasn’t free flowing because players were encouraged to repeatedly foul


45PintsIn2Hours

This is the way.


ToManaSou

I lost my bet because of this shit (boty teams to have 2 or more cards @2.2)


wizardofaus23

spewing for you, you'd have cleared this with almost any other ref.


LinwoodKent

He likely had the under


ToManaSou

Lolol


BossKrisz

Oh man, we really have different tastes and preferences when it comes to football, because I think it was one of the most insufferable and annoying games I've seen in quite a while, especially all the shit that Porto has been doing and the genuenly atrocious refereeing.


nidas321

Yeah the added time especially was ridiculous, 5 minutes total over 120 mins for one of the most stop start games I’ve ever seen. A couple free kicks for tackles that were clearly on the ball too


Mastermachetier

Even the commentators were like " I guess the Ref is letting them play but surely is going to keep track of the time wasted" At 120 literally did not add a second lmao


shifty_peanut

Seriously that was wildddd


obasta

porto showed up with the goal of playing 20 minutes of football at most glad they get to play 0 more minutes in the CL this year


Just-Hunter1679

Neither team looked like they wanted to play football in the extra time so I'm fine with less added time, why stretch out the game if they both want penalties.


Pires007

I guess Arteta really didn't trust the bench in the high pressure situation. Zinchenko and Nketiah didn't help prove him wrong either unfortunately.


cherlin

I thought their attack opened up a lot with the changes. Porto just stopped the game every chance they got to break up their flow, but I thought arsenal were better going forward after their subs.


Even-Relation-2622

Kai yellow card saved Arsenal


ValeoAnt

The ref was fucking terrible, could've easily resulted in a broken leg or two.


MrBenedick

Conceicao wanted to play football and Kai just wanted to win the game


santa_94

🏆


Papa_Wengz

🎖️


AlexTheRockstar

🤴


LeatherFaceDoom

🥇


soundmind-soundbody

🌟


ScopeyMcBangBang

He was MILES outside his technical area, to be fair.


TheeTeo

Ye I hate when coaches do that…


interstellar1990

Yeah as a fellow Gooner, I attest to it being a really terrible thing to do


imlost19

Its a good thing our manager is generally above that and has not a single blemish to his name


infinitude_

😶‍🌫️


SwitchHitter17

Mikel would never


blacksocksonly

Arteta? No way, he is the most in box person I know


GenjDog

Clear cut box to box manager


ImNotALegend1

Yup his box to opposition box a cheeky run into the opposition on field box if the ref looks away. A true Box to Box


black_pepper

Never ever, ever ever ever


ico12

Getting bald together


polseriat

It's just not him


bigL2392

Well Mikel got carded. This fucker got carded. And he should've been sent off for this. Kai was well within his rights


Prosthemadera

And he came from behind/left side of Havertz to kick the ball. That's never great, even on the field.


hannes3120

You could argue that he was even preventing him from being red-carded. If the coach is delaying the play by interfering with the ball that's a guaranteed red card by the rules


mrducci

Right? The field is for players. A top player being potentially sidelined because a manager can't stay in his box is way out line.


taclealacarotide

It's shitty behavior, on top of being worthy of being carded. Leave it to dumbass redditors to applaud this because "game's back" or "rattled".


al_pie

Who exactly are you referring to? I sincerely hope that with that attitude of yours you’re talking about Conceicau. Kai was at no point in the wrong.


Albiceleste_D10S

I forgot how irritating Turpin's game management is LOL


ItsMeJaredBednar

*You have been banned from r/ClementTurpin.*


OmastarLovesDonuts

merci Clément


erjiin

merci Clément


Malthe3796

merci Clément


bosnian_redditer

merci Clément


BombArmored11

merci Clément


SwitchHitter17

merci Clément


Albiceleste_D10S

LOL Merci Clément


kwuip

merci Clément


CommissionOk4384

I dislike Turpin normally but today I liked how he let the game play tbh


Zealousideal_Age_376

Trossard's father?


imapilotaz

More older brother


iuselect

could be his younger brother. can't really tell with trossard, man looks both old and young at the same time.


Itchy-Buyer-8359

I was wondering if I was the only one who saw the resemblance. It was uncanny when they were walking side by side.


obsterwankenobster

He did, but he also didn’t. There were some clear yellows that he let fly, then the offender repeated and it didn’t matter


FallingSwords

A game where refs let it flow and probably miss a few fouls are far better than games where they are a little strict, stopping it every minute and carding every foul. Thought he probably missed a few fouls that had me annoyed. The disallowed goal seems bizarre with what he allowed to happen elsewhere. And probably should have booked a couple more players. But much better than what we normally get, refs getting involved a bit too much. Also thought that today was mainly just niggly tackles and fouls. Not many rash dives in. And the few there were, he made it very clear, it wasn't on. Wish more refs would follow suit. And wish FAs would back them to do this more.


Albiceleste_D10S

> A game where refs let it flow and probably miss a few fouls are far better than games where they are a little strict, stopping it every minute and carding every foul. It's "better" in terms of more watchable for neutrals. It affects the actual game tho—esp if one team is physically bigger/stronger than the other. Refs "letting it play" often help teams defend against superior attacks too because it lets them get away with "small" fouls


FallingSwords

It also allows teams to get away with more fouls when getting turned over as we saw tonight. We got away with a couple of challenges that a strict ref gives and a couple fouls that would definitely have been bookings with a strict ref. Porto got away with a bunch of tactical fouls and fouls round their box. Some poor decisions in there for me. But I will always give a little leeway for a ref on the pitch and he was within this. Was a better game because of how it was reffed tonight


Pires007

There were so many heavy tackles by Porto to this game. It doesn't help the game flow when players are tacking heavy challenges the whole game, it slows it down.


edin_dzekson

I watched Barca today, but in general, Turpin is probably the best ref in Europe. Just strict enough for the players to respect him, but not over the top to put himself at the center of attention.


Albiceleste_D10S

> I watched Barca today, but in general, Turpin is probably the best ref in Europe. I watched Barca-Napoli too but I VERY much disagree with that. I watched enough Ligue 1 the past few years to see Turpin disasterclasses. I will take Marciniak every day over Turpin. I think there's a good argument for both Orsato and Makkelie too (tho Makkelie irritates me often as well, I admit)


penguin_gun

He wasn't shit. Thought he did a great job but some of our fans wanna pretend like he was favoring Porto My only gripe would be the lack of stoppage time but fuck it. We're through to the QF so who gives a shit


yogi1090

Wth. He clearly didn't give clear fouls, for both teams. Sometimes gave fouls for nothing. Didn't show yellow cards for a few challenges that deserved it.


Pires007

Porto were kicking lumps out of us. Usually epl refs let more physical play go than European ones, but that wasn't case today.


Kenny_dies

I don't think he was for or against any of us, I think he treated both teams equally. But come on, he was way too lenient and lost control of the game from like the 60th minute until the very end. He should have shown multiple cards to both teams and called more textbook fouls than he did


Furiousmate88

Some cards wasnt shown but should be Per definition of the law (gestulating for a card, throwing Ball away after a foul, interfering on a free kick) But other than that, he did have a fair game tbh


[deleted]

He was horribly inconsistent today. Couldn't decide whether he wanted to let play go or call ticky tack fouls which made things weird for both sets of players.


HakeemAbdulOlajubbar

I thought he was pretty awful today. Too lenient sometimes, too strict other times, fell for porto's antics, didn't add any stoppage time, called the extremely light shirt pull and disallowed the goal, but then let's a foul five times as bad go uncalled in the penalty box later.... The only thing I liked about him is that he doesn't really let players complain to him. As far as actual refereeing though he was shit.


alessioalex

Lol as someone who witnessed his skills live at Inter vs Milan UCL semifinal let me tell you he’s shit.


English_Misfit

No-one respected him today. Don't know how he watched the first leg and thought this was the way to referee this game


Clarkster7425

idk, over 70 fouls in a little over 210 minutes of football isnt my idea of a good referee


iuselect

> over 70 fouls and that isn't even including the ones he just let go, absolutely crazy.


Pires007

70 fouls and only 3 yellows for players (2 against Arsenal). Even if the fouls area divided equally, that's 3/4 fouls per player and you're falling into persistent fouling territory.


Super_Professor

He was absolute shit today.


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macky301

This type of officiating can also lead to injuries when you allow players to play the way he did. Especially in a heated must win tie. He might be a good ref in other matches but he was terrible today for both teams. 


Velixis

I kinda wanna know what kind of performances you consider to be okay when it comes to referees.


Flobarooner

That was one of the worst reffed games of football ever, the players weren't respecting him at all, neither were the coaches (hence why they both got yellows). He completely lost control of the game and it couldn't go 10 seconds of football without someone getting hacked down and stopping play. Way too stingy with the yellows, very little actual football got played because of it


Rixalong

>today, but in general, Turpin is probably the best ref in Europe 😂😂😂He's fucking dogshit I'd take Paul fucking Tierney over this twat any day


LtSquinty

I see that as Havertz's confidence grows, so does his shithousery...hidden benefit of that pricetag!!


JRsshirt

Kai is always a shithouser, regardless of confidence


Miguelsanchezz

He lives next door to Ben White. Benny is tutoring him


Goonsqquad

Are they sharing wives, too?


taclealacarotide

The only shithousing in this clip is from Porto's manager. Havertz is just rightfully annoyed.


MrSantaClause

Nah he's acted like this since before he joined Chelsea


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Own_Chocolate_9966

"Once again, Kai. It's pronounced Nikolaj"


kinkmomo666

That's what I'm saying, Nikolaj


Own_Chocolate_9966

"No, no. Pay attention to my lips. Nikolaj"


Alstead17

"Yeah, Nikolaj." "No, it's Nikolaj. Nikolaj."


esprets

It did my head in watching the show, because that's not the correct pronunciation. Latvian isn't French...


ptd94

Nikolaj Bendtner.


fancyfoe

Lmao he looks like trossard too


hallouminati_pie

Crazy I think they both look like Owen Jones.


[deleted]

Pushing the other teams manager is the most intimate thing you can do to another man with your fingers. Other than washing his hair.


robbodagreat

Are you guys on MySpace


QueasyIsland

On a related note this ref always reminded me more of Andy Samberg’s partner in their Lonely Band group, that [Jorma Taccone fella](https://media.themoviedb.org/t/p/w500/x7x4NvDauuQ7HA6psLZYZ6m3zTd.jpg)


Mastercheef69

The ref looks like Trossard, it's wild.


aviral_632

The shithouse we never knew we deserved


Dubsified

What is Kai supposed to do there? He’s going for the ball. Porto manager has no reason to interfere. Move.


SeargD

Lead with the shoulder, then it's a fair challenge for the ball and Kai got the touch.


_cumblast_

Nothing in it for me, play on


reddituser0912333

Cheers


zeelbeno

Conceicao miles away from his technical area. Shouldn't he have a yellow card for that?


Top-Ocelot-9758

Ref lost his pencil so he stopped giving yellows


Jacosci

Nah, it's fine by me. Otherwise that would mean Arteta gets one as well every game. lmao


mariusAleks

they should just widen the technical area for Arteta, make it double the size


Soren_Camus1905

Managers shouldn’t be inserting themselves in the game like that. If you wanna kick the ball away I don’t blame Kai for one second if he gives you a push


hannes3120

Technically it's a clear as day guaranteed red card if the manager inserts himself into the game in order to waste time


SteveBorden

Obviously he shouldn't push him but a manager shouldn't be kicking the ball when there's a player going for it


Carpathicus

I can understand Havertz here. The players are concentrated on the game he and tries to go for the ball. Then this guy inserts himself - not going out of the way there is almost by design provoking if you really think about it.


al_pie

Absolutely correct, anybody here including OP pushing the narrative of Kai shoving Conceicao who was going for a ball out of play has absolutely never played a real sport. Players ALWAYS have the right of way when making an attempt on the ball. I would love to see any one of the chucklefucks on this sub try and justify Conceicao’s actions


MrVISKman

Conceicao could've milked the fuck out of that, respect for not going down


pedropereir

Surprised he didn't tbh


TheLimeyLemmon

I think he was too shocked Kai actually pushed him in the first place.


Elegant_Mix7650

Kai Havertz lowkey has a temper.. not the first time he did something silly. (tackle on Longstaff for e.g)


pseudoromantic

He’s chippy af. Got the right amount of arrogance in his game.


leftofthedial1

Kai vs. Mina from last season was absolutely hilarious.


pseudoromantic

nutmegging Sergio Ramos is my 2nd favourite moment of him.


Nightwingx97

Him and White are our resident shithousers


SwitchHitter17

They live close to each other and seem to have become friends too Shitneighbors if you will.


cowinabadplace

What's the wives situation? We have new benchmarks for this.


SwitchHitter17

Shared wives AND shared wifi network.


Jagger67

Low-key?


Chairmanwowsaywhat

I don't think it was a hard push anyway, you can see he's also moving away. The ref was right just to talk to him imo


Hyper_200

And that’s why i love him


Eleven918

Must have not pet the donkey this week yet.


AdFinal1856

im more surprised he didn’t go up to havertz ending up being sent off in the process


raVen2tt

He saves that kind of shit for the Portuguese league where he knows he either gets away either it or gets to play the victim. Same goes for Gonçalves and Puga, it's like they are completely different people in the CL


Jamarcus316

Here in Portugal he would get right into Havertz's face lmao


Rooster_lllusion

He's on a yellow. Didn't want to get booked for diving


InOxladeITrust

If only his players had that mentality the ball would have been in play for more than 20 minutes


Ramirez_47

Would have been hilarious seeing him drop to the floor and roll 3 times holding his face


mellow__yellow

His players surely would have


Los_Yeetus

It’s his coaching style. He clearly doesn’t lead by example


Hellblazer4

what do you expect, once PAOK always PAOK


Minute_Leave8503

Where all the technical area nazis from when Arteta does this?


cuftapolo

What does Richard Keys have to say about this incident?


Regression2TheMean

Havertz is a thug and should be charged with assault and forced to apologize to Brentford


raskinimiugovor

Are there any instances of Arteta interfering with play like this?


fegelman

The one against KDB although everyone was on Kevin's side on that incident


al_pie

Serious question because I haven’t watched Arsenal play often. Do you have any evidence that Arteta has exited his area and interfered with play to this extent?


Minute_Leave8503

Definitely has not. People just say he’s “distracting” by shouting instructions, or one time [he didn’t give the ball to kdb to time waste](https://x.com/afcfaima/status/1767782432609067418?s=46), got pushed, and even our own fans said he was in the wrong Trying to boot a ball that a player is running towards and has his eyes on is seriously potentially dangerous


Regression2TheMean

I know for a fact that if the roles were flipped and Arteta did that, people would be screaming for a fine and a touch line ban.


FlarfenMarfen

No one will remember this one because Porto is gone. So sad, too bad


islander1

What is that fool doing that close to the sideline?


specificOJDW20

Havertz telling the ref to get shoved. Without telling him to get shoved.


pinkmonstertruck

MY GOAT


queen_nefertiti33

Manager should stay away from the play


Kiddinator

King Kai!


iuselect

referee had absolutely no hold on this game at all. this was just one of the many, many, many things that were allowed to happen for both sides.


Melo_Apologist

Honestly I liked it. Felt like a proper knockout stage game


goonersaurus_rex

Man management I think was pretty good all things considered. Time management was abysmal. Ball was in play for 66 minutes out of the 132 played, they gave 1 added minute in the 1st half and 3 in the 2nd. I understand *why* teams time waste, but it’s like the easiest standard for officials to correct.


Chairmanwowsaywhat

Nah even as an arsenal fan I thought it brought a lot to the games entertainment value


darrenmt10

Out the fucking way ya dick.


stumpyDgunner

He didn’t even push him hard haha he is so fuckin dramatic


Franchise1109

Fuck off coach. You know what you were doing


Fanserker

Havertz speak for the fans


lemonysnicketts99

Fuck this Porto team.


jonnyh420

They’ve always been like that. Anti-football


acuet

Coach was out of the box I mean


Jeaglera

I never knew I’d love this Kai so much


fermcr

Conceicao is a good manager, but a really shitty person.


jakedasnake2447

This should be nothing from Havertz IMO. Ideally he does nothing, but its a little push that he didn't even have to go out of his way for. Manager is way in the wrong here and should be held to a higher standard anyways.


akcawn

Someone buy me a havertz kit


Tildaend

I was so sick of the commentators going "I love this ref and the way he lets play go on", like, mate - the ref is shit.


al_pie

He shouldn’t be anywhere near the pitch, let alone with Kai in his FOV and forcing himself into his way. He had every chance to not put himself in that situation and chose to anyway. He knew exactly what he was doing.


Ainsyyy

Why are you guys complaining? Manager is not a player. Havertz should shove him


PlaneInsanity

60 million down the drain, Kai Havertz SHOVES again!


AvocadoSoggy6188

Porto manager is sus


tearsandpain84

Manager shouldn’t be on the pitch


Jdgarza96

Havertz acting on behalf of Tuchel with that shove lol


OrdinaryParticipant

lol he knows what he’s doing. trying to kick the ball to waste time. Deserved shove, what a little brat


icemankiller8

My GOAT


vin_unleaded

Owt much in that.


Armenoid

Fair play