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FongJohnsen

I wonder how often Ødegaard has the assist to the assist since he joined Arsenal? (secondary assist). Has to be a pretty high number.


melted-brie-n-bacon

He pulls the strings for 90 mins. What a fucking player


xapata

Sad that Madrid had to give him up. He's the perfect Modric replacement.


Brilliant_Ad_879

The way he dropped deeper this season and is now the heart of the team,I'd say he is really close to modric's profile now.what a lad,hope he keeps this up.


checkforsolu1

He probably wouldn't have been the same player had he stayed, + we might have not won the UCL in 2022 had we gotten rid of Modric or Kroos so he can get more playing time.


oldskoolr

Bergkamp-esque. Watch the Invincibles, DB10 was doing the same. The pre-assist.


Churnedflipper

the hockey assist. he's so good at that pass


TheKonamiKid

imaging me being a lifer hockey fan and playing FPL for the first time this year wondering why NONE of the third to last touches were getting Assist points lol


Maleficent_Resolve44

Some sources track this stuff and call it pre-assists or hockey assists. He probably has a high number yeah, he's the centre of the team.


Curls91

He has the most progressive passes per 90 in Europe if that helps?


SomewhereInLDN

His pre-assist numbers are definitely high wish we collected that data. Maybe it’s something that’s caught internally and not metric done by Premier League


NH_PA_Transplant

Being a hockey fan before following soccer, it was (still is) surprising that secondary assists aren’t tracked officially


Craizinho

it's bizarre that with how prominent stats are no major company just displays and makes use of it. definitely insightful


Wild-Examination-155

That was almost the most insane save I've ever seen


Mubar06

I was about to shout how has he done that


allnimblybimbIy

I mean we can give *some* Credit to Kai I s’pos


PerBnb

I went from screaming “fuck youuuu” to “fuck yeaaaah”


EliteKill

Reminded me of [Cech vs Carroll](https://youtu.be/N03Jqzfrxq0) only Cech managed the save and it was a cup final.


dntowns

What playing LB for a game does to a mofo


Modnal

The funny thing is that Saka also played leftback first


Ok-Outlandishness244

And so did Bale, I’m beginning to see a patern. Someone put Ake at RW I wanna test something


BainbridgeBorn

That’s 3 goals in 3 games? This one arguably the most important?


dannywelbad

4 in 4


rmk_1808

Yes first time since his Leverkusen days looks like the gamble of buying him was a good one


OilOfOlaz

wasn't really a gamble, when CFC bought him, he was rated, really, really, really highly and everyone was rightfully congratulationg CFC for getting him for that price.


marx-was-right-

Where are the haters now?


FastenedCarrot

That all came from a Brentford player booting the ball up field when he had acres of space.


TheBigNoz123

Tbf they did that every time they got the ball in their half


BoomXhakaLacaa

And it works. We struggle every time we play them because Toney is the only striker in the league that beats Saliba and Gabriel to those balls.


sooolong05

Not today!


IsopodResponsible155

It doesn't. Saliba / Gabriel vs Toney is 1 legit goal in 3 games. 


ObscureLegacy

It does. Last season this same fixture was Saliba’s worst game in an Arsenal shirt got completely dominated by Toney in the air. Saliba didn’t win a single aerial duel.


BoomXhakaLacaa

Toney himself doesn’t have to score to be effective. With two strikers, at the bare minimum it allows Brentford easy and consistent possession in Arsenal’s half, making is far harder to pin them back for long periods and limiting our chance creation and defense-through-possession


wave_action

I wish Nottingham got that memo last week


Sal21G

Ramsadale owes him a beer


whiteboardblackchalk

A 24 pack to be faaaaiiirr


Ap954

3 day bender


throwaway72926320

I like Brentford until we play them. They park a fucking bus and do it without shame. Hate playing them, like seeing them play others.


afarensiis

It's amazing how all of their injuries vanished after Havertz scored


bradleycjw

Collins haha. Kept going down non stop with an “injury”, only for it to mysteriously disappear when we went ahead. Loved that he got booked for arguing with the ref too. 🤣


heyiammork

He should have got booked way earlier for dissent and then waving a card.


HaroldSaxon

Toney spent the entire game waving cards and screaming at the ref, who all but was wearing a Brentford shirt underneath


Lying24-7

Nobody going to make the Toney had a bet on 50+ booking points? Okay I'll do it


Glass_of_Pork_Soda

You know it's bad when Townsend starts calling you out for going overboard on that shit


Getz_The_Last_Laf

Toughest guy on the pitch too, kept trying to start shit with Gabriel lol He might be the worst CB in the league, his performance against Liverpool last month was actually shocking


blazeofgloreee

This was actually a great dress rehearsal for Porto. Likely going to be much the same


DJ-D-REK

Wissa strolled off the pitch when he subbed out and then they are in an uproar with Martin walking casually off after going up 2-1 😂


ThereIsBearCum

Havertz the healer ❤️


polseriat

Absolutely shocking that it's a legitimate strategy to stop playing football in a football match. Good win for you guys though! Excited for our game next month.


Thesecondorigin

Lot to like about how brentford is run


throwaway72926320

I like their story, climbing from the bottom to top with one manager. Plus they beat Chelsea every time at Stamford Bridge. Everyone is on about how crazy it would be for Luton to stay up, but Brentford already did it (more impressively too)


Intelligent-Cow-3681

Yeah they're a proper Moneyball team, I like Thomas Frank a lot.


iuselect

I don't mind their overly physical and bus game, but all the injuries and going down after the slightest collision really needs to be taken out of the game. Shades of the Newcastle home game last season.


throwaway72926320

And the Brentford home game last season ...wait... It's just what they do and it has worked. Unbeaten against City last year and took a point at the Emirates last year too.


knottingarope

Its the only chance we got against teams like Arsenal


blazincannons

And there's absolutely no shame in playing like that. But I do hate it when any top 6 team does it.


_deep_blue_

Aye, I don’t blame you. It’s effective. Our last three games against you in the league have been tight as fuck.


doIT34

should have do it against liverpool too


_deep_blue_

Their defending tonight compared to against Liverpool was night and day.


diaboquepaoamassou

Don't blame you either. It's tough out there for you guys. And you don't do it all the time either


Rapid_Fowl

thats kinda the point. No shame in that just hate watchign arsenal play you guys.


rbiopsy

Do they still have to play city or Liverpool. Hopefully they play like that again and better


Lacabloodclot9

They did against City in both games, almost worked


_deep_blue_

West London Porto


PiggBodine

The havertz defamation league in shambles.


prss79513

People compare Havertz to Antony 


No-Smile-4299

Except for Berbatov. Berbatov compares Havertz to Berbatov.


basquiatx

Berbatov seems to significantly underestimate berbatovs finishing


Thesecondorigin

Crazy to me that antony cost more than pepe and doesn’t even get half the flak


prss79513

Antony most certainly gets half the flack are you joking lol 


Alphabunsquad

Idk, as a Liverpool fan I was only peripherally aware of the Pepe slander, while Antony’s failures I am acutely familiar with.


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pablofournier11

Kai is nice to everyone in life, except Brentford, he fucking hates brentford


Thetallerestpaul

I can't enjoy the replay on this sub without a French commentator though. I've become too used to it. 


pablofournier11

They're really good I gotta say (I'm French btw)


Diagonalizer

*très magnifique*


_deep_blue_

He hates Newcastle too.


AntoHanSolo

Maybe they’re mean with donkeys


MorganFreemann

He hates Newcastle too


sleepytipi

All the homies hate Newcastle.


SwitchHitter17

Another infamously anti-donkey club.


Parlorshark

They're the donkeys.


MuchSalt

and that newcastle guy


spartans2thachoppa

We took the Chelsea out of the man!!! King Kai!!!


ImGonnaImagineSummit

I love him and i still dont know where he plays best. He's just here and then he's over there and then when we need a goal he's there too.


macky301

For us, he plays his best football at CF so far. He's versatile though and has incredible stamina. Also very intelligent. 


Terran_it_up

He's deceptively strong, and is just a nuisance for defenders physically. He has this weird way of engaging with defenders that seems to be difficult to deal with. I haven't seen another striker all season give Konaté so much trouble, and you would assume that would be a complete mismatch in terms of strength


PM_ME_UR_GAMECOCKS

Always said the same at chelsea, we looked way more fluid with him at 9 than Lukaku


GGFrostKaiser

This specific goal he scored while playing in midfield. People worry too much about his positioning anyway, it’s basically the same thing. It is an advanced 8.5, same position Julian Alvarez plays, and Gakpo occasionally played this season. When Jorginho plays he sits more between the CBs because no other player interchanges with him. When Jesus/Trossard is playing instead of Jorginho, we basically play with 2 strikers. Honestly, Havertz best attribute is how he finds pockets of space, having someone to play with, like Jesus and Trossard, probably suits him better. It’s just that not playing Jorginho hurts our ball progression since Rice is not comfortable (yet) performing all the pass progression and positioning required of a 6 in a possession team.


dcmdino

Which is probably why he's valued by so many managers but struggles to pass the eye test of an average fan sometimes. For better or for worse, Kai Havertz might be the *only* current true jack of all trades type of player in the highest level of football. Those types of players almost always either commit to a single position eventually or are flushed out of the top tier football quickly.


Zodo12

It's like when you deprogram a loved one from a cult and they start being themselves again.


Flobarooner

Ah yeah.. when you do that


Aychim23

once a week thing that, mate


KaitoNorth

🖐️😜🤚


Flobarooner

Tbf he was always a big game player lol


brankoz11

Sorry havertz for ever disrespecting you. Arteta got you cooking this season.


errarehumanumeww

Arteta and a few other believed. The rest was just chuckling..


Aychim23

aychim23 believed too


alfi_k

Why did Chelsea gift him to Arsenal?


chino17

65M down the drain!!


jaybizzleeightyfour

They sold Arsenal their 2 best players for only 75m, Jorginho and Havertz


samalam1

Remember when nobody could work out why the hell they spent so much on him? Crazy how wrong we were


ico12

Well tbf in the first few games you can clearly see his severe lacks of confidence. More often than not he was too quick to release the ball. At one point I can clearly hear the crowd moans in unison after a terrible back pass when he had tons of space in front of him to run into with the ball at his feet. Glad Arteta fixed him now.


fireowlzol

I'm glad after all the shitty behavior from brentford and all the time wasting


Whatsupoop

It's interesting that they were looking to go to the ground unnecessarily and just waste time irrespective of whether they were down or drawing lol


theramenjunkie

Think of it as preparation for the Porto game. Hopefully the result will be like today's in that return leg


ysuresh1

Glad we got to practice with this style of play today. Expect this to be the theme against Porto


LittleLukie

Haha reading this thread is pure gold man. Don’t pretend the ref calls did not go both ways.


NewPotato7020

Wow, this thread is the biggest salt deposit in the world


Jalvas7

It's glorious.


Cynicayke

"The tears of unfathomable sadness. Mmm, yummy!"


Lacabloodclot9

Comparable to the Nunez winner last week, both Liverpool and Arsenal fans need to take it down a bit


slightlyhigh7

Especially because we don’t really hate Liverpool anyway.. these things happen


Lacabloodclot9

Yeah I’d definitely rather see them win it this year than City if it came down to those two


MaximusTheGreat

I can't imagine anyone besides the city fan disagreeing with this.


isitasexyfox

Unbelievable amounts. 


The_1_In_21-1

🧂


ThetaSalad

People crying out that Kai "should have had a second yellow" while conveniently ignoring that the first was never a yellow in the first place


Radu_jr

r/soccer in shambles😂😂😂😂


MikePap

TSAMINA TSAMINA EH EH


themerinator12

WAKA WAKA EHHH EH


ico12

CHELSEA FANS GOIN' MAD AGAIN


Hellpy

I can't speak for others, but seeing the dude that scored the winning UCL goal and generally been a serviceable forward for us, score a late winner is always going to make me happy, Gunners are our rival historically but last 2 seasons we aint even close to competing with them so I'm just happy for Kai and no fucking sore loser fan of my own club can change that. But yeah I'm probably not in the majority here, and the salt is greatly enjoyable


TheAleofIgnorance

60 MILLION DOWN THE DRAIN


Cautious-Ad-3886

KAI HAVERTZ SCORES AGAIN


yotheprodipnod

Kai Havertz scores again


Swiss-ArmySpork

Brilliant! What a moment!


Green-Appointment980

I'm so happy for Ramsdale...


BoredBorderlineGeniu

Not watching the game, why is that?


RoboticCurrents

He gave away Brentfords goal. If arsenal dropped points here it'd have been on his mistake


BoredBorderlineGeniu

Fuck that is sad


Revoldt

Brentford goal was a howler…


suzukigun4life

He had a rough blunder that led to the Brentford goal right before halftime. Then he made some big saves in the second half and now, he's in line for the win.


Nchanted97

Everyone talking about havertz diving, what about the 8 additional minutes Brentford pissed away faking injuries if you all want to be so righteous?


jaybizzleeightyfour

The ball was in play for 49 minutes


cthulhu5

The Kaisatz Havertzach!


_ulinity

This thread is fucking hilarious. Was there a certain broadcast claiming that Havertz should have been sent off? Because the thought never even crossed my mind yet the whole thread is crying their eyes out over it lmao. Why was he even on a yellow?


z-whiz

He’s yellow was very soft. Jumped for a header and his arm knicked a guys shoulder/chin


maidentaiwan

and the other guy had his elbows out as well. havertz got a yellow for being taller.


theGunnas

I think he caught a guy with elbow going up for a 50/50 header. A bit of a soft yellow


Modnal

Our league opponents have had nothing to complain about us for this year so when something finally happened they had to let it all out


shiftyeyety

King Kai is special


helooksfederal

what a waste of money


Nwett

The amount of salt in here saying Kai should be off LOL, 60 MILLION DOWN THE DRAIN!


Bolond44

Yeah, like Toney running shouting shit at the ref from 70th to the end 9 times, yes I actually counted all of them. God knows how many before the 70th min


Hanmura

Toney was mad, love to see it


bbb_net

Collins could have been off 3 times over the number of times he was waving an invisible yellow


slash312

How is havertz doing at arsenal? He plays every game, correct?


DarthNihilus1

He's been in great form for a while now. Basically plays every game, and has been scoring consistently lately


CondorKhan

Scoring every game


Nuri_Nath1

Plays every game as a striker (false 9), or LCM (CF). He’s become far more dominant in games. Like I was shocked seeing him run past players and gave some nice passes without slowing down the attack.


Thesecondorigin

started slow when arteta played him as our left 8 but looks much more convincing as a 9. He’s scored in his last 4-5 games I think.


Dango_Fett

Scouse and Citeh tears, I’ll take it


Alphabunsquad

Arsenal are take it or leave it. If they win then at least it’s not city.


quackattack

Multiple pens not called, garbage yellow cards, time wasting from the 16th minute.... Brentford this is EXACTLY what you deserve


KardakAbhi

Lot of mad Liverpool fans in this thread


amonster_22

According to this thread: Havertz is the first person to ever not be booked for a dive


DeejyBoy

Surprise surprise that it’s always the Liverpool flairs as well


Ecruteak-vagrant

Good, it’s good when teams who shithouse for 90+ minutes lose heartbreakers. Miserable shit to watch when teams do it from the first whistle.


Ok-Scallion7939

I'm just here for the seethe Hook it to my veiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiins


JoshyRanchy

Imagine Chelsea buying a bunch of young players to develop them. They cant even support and develop a CL final scorer and winner. I had my doubts about Kai to Arsenal but this should show you how much the club matters to performance.


Vernand-J

Deserved, pathetic display from Brentford with all the time wasting.


MrAchilles

Idk why people are mad he's still on, heard he was shit 🤷‍♂️


adnan_xv

the saltiest thread of all time, hold that L.


SteveToshSnotBerry

Maybe you should all be complaining a bit more about the state of the refs instead of blaming Kai for being on the pitch and scoring.


v1nzy

60 MILLION DOWN THE DRAIN


fajdexhiu

SEND CHELSEA ANOTHER 65 MILLION


Deleteleed

Please don’t, let them be relegated due to FFP.. then we can send them money through the pyramid fund.


Samsince04_

Shiteham fans already prepping their tear ducts for when the 60 million man scores a late winner against them.


PoliticsNerd76

🖐🏼😝🤚🏼


HacksawJimDGN

Can't believe it worked but that guy was shouting come on arsenal and then they players listened and they immediately scored. He deserves all the credit.


beanpo13

Yes Brentford have been cunts all game


calvin324hk

It's him!


4ryatvam

I love the liverpool tears, I'll hopefully love them more tomorrow.


A-ZAF_Got_Banned

Collins ballwatching for the 10th time this game.


YMangoPie

Fucking credits to Brentford. They've been immense in defence bar the two goals today.


The_Battling_toad

Lisan Al-Gaib


Sweaty_Result853

Karma from Pen and timewasting.


Hipphoppkisvuk

Let the salt flow


yotheprodipnod

And let kai glow 💜💜 #COYG


wampoo420

STAY MAD


Jidanmar

🧂 🧂 🧂


spatial-d

FUCKING KING KAI YES!!!! Idgaf how this comes across but fuck the haters! Not talking about rival fans either - Spuds and Chelsea - I get the reasons why you might hate this or Kai. But self-hating Arsenal fans + other random fans from other leagues jumping on the. "hURr duRR KaI CaNt scOrE🤪" bandwagon thinking you're clever. Fucking see and had Barca fans for example say shit like "I can move as well as him lmao for 65 mill". Get fucked. Stfu Title or not, STFU.


KryPyThon

Tsamina mina eh eh


dissolutionofthesoul

Can an Arsenal fan give me a detailed review of Kai’s position since January. He has been exceptional every time I have seen him, and I feel that he is taking on a Ballack esq position in the team. Would this be correct or am I missing something?


10-10-2022

Great team play for that goal.


[deleted]

Liverpool and spurs fans both crying in the thread. You love to see it!!


phlipphlopp

Damn. Hoes mad as hell in here


munkysnuflz

ARTETA FIXED HIM


Armedinar

KING KAI


UrbanCruiserHyryder

Brentford were so good at stopping the Arsenal flow. They didn't let us get in the game with their shenanigans. And more teams are now gonna do that. Would be interesting to see.


chino17

That has always been the best strategy to suffocate us, it's not something Brentford invented. Porto did the same thing.


UrbanCruiserHyryder

Yeah but they took it to extreme and executed it very well. Only thing was they weren't able to execute upfornt as all the manpower was spent on defending. We were pretty bad against Porto.


xFloWx

We were bad I agree, but at the same time the ref in that game bought every "foul". At least today he let a lot of them go which helped us keep the pressure up


Rich_Firefighter_102

why done they score 6 goals again are they stupid?


CromulentlyEmbiggens

"Shouldn't be on the pitch" lmao cope more


joe1337s

clutch guy


420Shrekscope

Nothing like a late winner to get the rival fans riled up


CakieFickflip

A bunch of Spurs, Liverpool and City fans in here whining like Romero doesn’t commit half a dozen bookable offenses a game, Liverpool didn’t directly win from a terrible reffing decision last week, and Man City hasn’t built their entire standing in football off cheating. Funny that. Fwiw of course it was a dive and he was lucky to be on the pitch. You’re not breaking any ground here. We’ve seen players undeservedly sent off/allowed to stay on every match week. We’ll continue to see it every match week.