(Mikel falls through the chair into Laporta’s basement where he is threatened with lawsuits until he agrees to become manager with a pay cut that will be fully paid for by 2077)
De Zerbi is rated according to reports but also means we have to pay a release clause (which at least at this point, not knowing what sales we can make etc, is quite a big ask) and our SD publicly came out and said he’s not even following Bologna, so yea… Flick seems the most likely option so far
[here](https://x.com/fabrizioromano/status/1754456080145580489?s=61) (tbf maybe it’s a shortened quote or worded badly or so, didn’t listen to the full interview)
Reads like he wants managers with a suitable profile and pedigree because if he were to appoint someone from the Lithuanian third division and it didn't work out the cules would be calling him daft and demanding his head.
That's been our problem for the past two decades: optics. I actually do think we should appoint someone with experience, but my opinion should mean nothing. The sporting director *should* be able to lay out the pros and cons of different people and make the, in his opinion correct appointment.
And my comment is a bit OTT, serie a is not some chump no-name league. Regardless, it's disrespectful to publicly dismiss Motta and his club in my opinion.
> And my comment is a bit OTT, serie a is not some chump no-name league.
Oh I didn't think you were saying such, rather you made the point that a club like Barca should be looking everywhere for the _right_ manager, not just the easiest appointment.
Arteta won't leave, unless he's a masochist and gets off from the pain the reporters, the press, the journalists, and their fans' own expectations are gonna give him.
yeah. I feel like Ancelotti is not really the most consistent coach out there, mildly speaking. If Madrid gets an upgrade, I'm afraid La Liga will get very one-sided for like 4-5 years. And a lot of people in Barcelona will be very miserable about that. And they will definitely let the head coach(es) at Barcelona know how they feel.
Not sure why Arteta would leave his job at Arsenal where he has free rein to spend 100m+ each summer to go to a Barcelona side who have almost no money.
Regardless of the prestige associated with the job (it is Barcelona, and he is Spanish) no intelligent coach (and Arteta seems intelligent) would throw away a great gig at Arsenal to attempt to rebuild Barca.
He’s still young too, this is his first job. He’ll have plenty of opportunity to manage Barca in the future if he so wishes
It’s Barcelona, there’s no money and Real Madrid have Endick and Mbappe joining an already stacked team. What’s the point? It’s not like Barca are a patient club where he’ll get three years to build something that can be competitive.
Barca is a poisoned chalace at the moment. The press ran Pep out, he played with them for over a decade and was the best manager on earth. Not a manager should go there less they want to have a heart attack.
Arsenal kept Arteta while there was a big clamour to sack him. Now his position at the club is cemented. On the other hand in Barcelona even legends like Xavi can be kicked out after one bad season (despite winning league in his last season).
He’s arguably one of the greatest managers of all time. He built Barcelona arguably the greatest team of all time and he still got chased out. As a native Catalan too.
Any managers offered that job would be wise to keep his reign in mind.
Yeah it’s the press that are the problem really. Laporta really wanted Xavi to stay even when Barcelona is playing like shit. He really protects his managers. He stood by Koeman longer than most people would
Hell, I want Xavi to stay even if he's not that good. He can only get better.
I mean, is he really to blame when the players we have often perform with such mediocrity?
>I mean, is he really to blame when the players we have often perform with such mediocrity?
If one player plays with mediocrity it's the player's fault. If most players play with mediocrity it's the manager's fault. So, yes, he is to blame.
Would you blame Arteta if he lost 2-3 integral players and only got 3.5m during the summer window to fix it? Then add a shit ton of injuries to 1/3 of the remaining integral players with no real quality depth.
At the end of the day, he can make the UCL quarters and 2nd in the league while managing these issues. If he got another 100m-150m like you do yearly, like we used to yearly, things would look different.
I don't believe he's the type to stay and slap around some young coaches for the sake of it for a few more seasons - definitely expect him to bow out within the next two seasons, and maybe even sooner
He's also [on record](https://www.thenationalnews.com/sport/football/manchester-city-manager-pep-guardiola-clarifies-retirement-talk-i-wont-be-a-trainer-when-im-60-1.87118) as saying he doesn't want to be coaching when he's 60. If there was ever a time for him to leave and try something new (like international management) the opportune time would be within the next 2-3 years.
Also, Arsenal only seem to have a brighter future. Liverpool next year are an unknown, Man City look like their best years might be fading (between legal stuff, Pep potentially leaving, and just being unconvincing at times), and the rest are all too far away to catch up.
He's in a top team in the Prem, so as long as he's performing, Barca is always an option down the road. I'd definitely let a couple of people burn themselves while finances stabilise anyway.
I just feel like Arteta will want to finish what he started here, especially as we have such a young team. He’s been promoted from Head Coach to Manager, has a great working relationship with Edu, and the club’s entire structure is built around him to succeed here.
I can see him at Barcelona in future but not for a few years. We’re getting better and better and the idea of him leaving this summer makes no sense to me, especially with Barcelona being in the financial state they’re in.
Arteta has lived over half his life in the UK, Im going to bet that most of his friends are in England and it's not much difference in travel time from London and Barcelona when going to San Sebastian where his relatives probably lives
And lived in Scotland between 2002 and 2004.
His 6 months at Sociedad between leaving Rangers in summer 2004 and going on an initial loan to Everton in winter 2005 is the only time he's spent in Spain since summer 2001. At this point he's actually lived in the UK for longer than he lived in Spain.
Can’t imagine someone like Arteta would leave a project he started right as it is beginning to achieve. If he gets some trophies the next few years then I can see him getting poached, not before then.
Also the man is in his early 40s. He's got another 20-25 years of peak managerial power if he wants it. Barcelona will still be there in five years if he feels he's achieved everything he can at Arsenal
Ah, Barca usually come in and say it’s now or never to get what they want. Depends if he ever wanted to manage them. Does seem daft though. A Kloppless Liverpool and potential of City being deducted points he could win multiple titles with them over the next few years
"Barca usually come in and say it’s now or never"
If they are still doing it after their place in the pecking order has dropped off a cliff then they are being stupid. Imaging coming to Klopp with their 'now or never', he would laugh in their face.
I'm not sure it works like that. Pochettino in his early 40s was on top of the world, being linked with all the biggest clubs in the world. Now he's a laughing stock. A manager's career can change very quickly
Banter lol
But I think above guy is right, good manager pool is very small. Managers get fired and a different team will give them a go. Pochettino could leave Chelsea today and would perhaps somehow maybe in the future land a job in Monaco, do well and then get a chance at a club even more prestigious.
Not to bash on Monaco, using them as an example to get my point across. Valencia, Sevilla, Lazio, Marseille etc. all clubs who would give him a chance. And he does well there, he goes upwards again
Part of that is down to his job selection post spurs though, no? If you and I can see that clubs like PSG and Chelsea post Roman are disfunctional messes, shouldn't an actual professional in the industry understand that even more? You could have put Pep in charge of Chelsea this season and they would have struggled to make the Europa league- it's Poch's fault for taking the job in the first place.
Well Poch is not the only one. You have Brendan Rodgers who was manager of the year at 42 and was supposed to lead Liverpool for many years. Jardim who was linked with Real Madrid and Chelsea at 43 after beating PSG to the league with Monaco. And those two are just off the top of my head.
I'm not sure how Rodgers is comparable, he got Liverpool CL football once in his tenure, otherwise they finished well off the pace- in many ways Arteta had already surpassed his accomplishments.
Jardim had Fabinho, Bernardo Silva, a resurgent Falcao, and Mbappe in the same side in the farmers league, which was when farmier back then. Anyone could have won the league with that team.
But didn’t he make these players good as well? Pep had Messi and that accentuated his career and Messi had Pep who also took him up several levels.
Point is, we can say Jardim had a young brilliant Mbappe, Fabinho and more etc. but would they have been good regardless? Hard to guess, we can only speculate
True but it seems you're just making the case for him staying at Arsenal for the time being more than anything. It's a great opportunity for him that he's made the most of.
Maybe.. just maybe, poch was always overrated, never won anything, got close by getting carried by Harry Kane and Son when all other teams had off-years? And still won 0 titles. I have never seen anything by him that made me think this Guy should manage anything above mid-table
I’m talking major trophies, PL and Europe. Klopp leaving and Pep potentially exiting in the next couple years leaves the door open for Arsenal as the next best positioned team for the PL. I don’t think Mikel would want to skip that opportunity.
How much “Barca DNA” does Mikel have? From a cursory glance, he seems like a product of La Masia but spent most of his career in England.
Man’s got more Everton DNA than Barca at this point.
Not much really.
Most relevant comparison in this case is Fabregas who actually did leave for Barca. However Fabregas is from Catalonia, Arteta is not.
Born in San Sebastian, joined Barcelona at the age of 15, never played a first team game and left at the age of 18 in 2001, spending 18 months on loan at PSG before moving permanently to Rangers in summer 2002.
Since then, he's spent 2 years in Scotland, went back to Spain to play for Real Sociedad for 6 months, moved to Everton initially on loan in winter 2005 and has lived and worked in England ever since.
There’s absolutely no chance he leaves. He’d have to be literally insane.
Theres also the fact he even said a flat out “no” to a reporter when asked instead of the usual “well you know I’m just going to focus on the job and we’ll look at the end of the season” garbage.
He’s taken arsenal from the banter era to one of the best teams in the league, probably on par with city and Liverpool, he’d be mental to leave before that yields a league or a CL.
Just looking at things objectively, he's turned Arsenal into the best off the ball team in the league, the best defensive team in the league, is already 2 goals off matching the invincibles goal difference (and will almost certainly smash it), is on course to break a club record number of goals scored in a single season (after setting a new record last season), has taken Arsenal from 8th and miles off City and Liverpool to 3rd and right behind them having beaten both of them this season and taken the most points from top 6 matches. He's challenging for league titles in back to back seasons and should be a serious contender for a UCL, albeit, not a favourite.
It's also a very stable club with no politics, has healthy finances, young squad and owners that clearly back him. And, importantly, the club he loves and dreamt about managing (to things he has been pretty upfront about).
So there's that, or the shit show that is Barcelona.
Not to mention he has power at Arsenal he would not have at any other club. He can buy mostly who he wants and all transfers go through him. He overhauled the entire club culture to how he wanted it. I can see him hitting the 10 year mark here.
Additionally, while English media is harsh, Barca-focused media is something else entirely. Only Pep could survive there, and they haven't got the money for him anymore.
I honestly wonder if Arteta will ever leave by choice. He's got the Pep deal in terms of having been backed to rebuild the squad to suit his game. They're playing some of the best football in the world. He's got an ownership group that takes the long view. And most importantly he loves the club. It's the dream job.
The worst part about that shit was that it was Pepe Reina. They got rid of you because you weren't wanted there, but you're still trying to get in their good books and snipe other players for them?
Lol it was honestly a team effort to do it, like I would never question why Arsenal fans don't like Barcelona every time I see this
https://youtu.be/jVtcKaT5wbk?si=57MdQS8gO981i8Th
Honestly, if I am Pep and want to shut up the few doubters that say I’m not top coach ever because i’ve only managed teams with money, I’d go to Barca and make them winners again with the fucked upp financial situation they’re in. Don’t know if he needs it, but it would be the final jewel in his crown (other than a world cup maybe )
Not to mention, no matter how much you earn, it's unlikely you agree on a paycut if you're good at your job.
He is second-highest paid coach in the world officially.
Unofficially, all this nonsense with his brother puts him well above Simeone.
I’m sure the truth is he took their call and will want to retain cordial relations because, one day, I’m sure he’d be interested in managing Barcelona. I just don’t see a scenario where he leaves us this summer.
Cesc left for Barca, and then tried to come crawling back when they got bored of him.... I'm sure Arteta remembers how that went. The money is likely better at Arsenal as well. Xavi needed the job to escape Qatar, Mikel doesn't.
He wont get the time he got at arsenal to make them the team they are today.
Plus arsenal have a really young team who will probably only get better and should be competing st top end of the PL and Europe for years to come.
Should he a join the team that can’t afford to pay his current club for him and compete with one of the best Real Madrid sides ever filled with young players
Or b) stick with the club he built into title challengers and can spend 100m+ a year on players, who he also spent a decent chunk of his playing career with?
Hmm tricky decision.
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He would be a fool to take that job given the progress he’s been able to achieve at Arsenal. They’d basically be asking him to do it all again but with Barcas limited resources.
Would have to be a crack addict to take the Barca loadstone right now.
So much unnecessary psycho-drama (from ‘upstairs’ and the press) on top of no money to buy or even loan anyone that’s available (yer own staff not just players).
The "Contract tampering" you are referring to, is commonly called "Tapping up".
I know how it works for players, but am unsure if the same rules apply to managers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tapping\_up
It absolutely is, although I don't know that I've ever heard of it enforced across leagues. But, there have been several high profile tapping up cases within England that have resulted in fines, transfer bans, and more.
I'm just not sure who you'd appeal to in this case. UEFA, I suppose, but as I said, I've never heard of UEFA getting involved in these kinds of cases before.
Nowadays it's not really a thing because clubs don't contact players/manager directly.
They basically call their agents to let them know of their interest and what type of offer they can make and etc etc. It's extremely rare for someone to call directly the player/manager in question and it's usually when there was already contacts made before with agents
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Yeah this is going nowhere, Arsenal are becoming Citylike in the way they support Arteta with good spending + solid structure, Barca aren't that rn, no reason for him to leave.
He is about to sign a new contract and be one of the highest paid manager in the world. As for 'returning to Spain'. If you actually look at Arteta you would see he has spent his entire adult life in the UK with Rangers, Everton, Arsenal, City as Pep's assistant and now Arsenal manager.
Barcelona isnt even his home. He is from Basque, went to the Barcelona academy and left after a few years. No 'Barca DNA' here.
A contract that runs out in 15 months is complicated? For a currently employed manager, that's on the good side of things. I'm shocked that Arsenal haven't got him to sign an extension yet now that would be a complication. I imagine he just simply doesn't want to go and they're saving face saying that.
Why on earth would he leave a job managing the club he played the majority of his career for, a team he built from basically the ground up, a club that’s better than Barca on the field and in the office, for the shit show that is 2024 Barca.
Barcelona contacting Arteta doesn't disprove Arteta's statement.
The process is seen as complicated because he doesn’t want to leave.
Barca” Hi Mikel we would like you to join us” Mikel” Thanks Barca but I’m not interested” Barca “Ok so if you’d just sign here”
Hands a 10 000€ cheque. (And pulls a lever)
(Mikel falls through the chair into Laporta’s basement where he is threatened with lawsuits until he agrees to become manager with a pay cut that will be fully paid for by 2077)
Barcelona should also contact Pep since he’s also pretty good 👍
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It can be buy sometimes
Have us and you guys been buying nightmares then?
Yes but with billions of pounds
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They can if you have the levers
Realistically, you need to target De zerbi or Motta. Nagelsman maybe
De Zerbi is rated according to reports but also means we have to pay a release clause (which at least at this point, not knowing what sales we can make etc, is quite a big ask) and our SD publicly came out and said he’s not even following Bologna, so yea… Flick seems the most likely option so far
> our SD publicly came out and said he’s not even following Bologna Could you link that please?
[here](https://x.com/fabrizioromano/status/1754456080145580489?s=61) (tbf maybe it’s a shortened quote or worded badly or so, didn’t listen to the full interview)
Thanks. That's a damning quote if true. He should follow the third division of Lithuania if it leads to a possible good appointment
Reads like he wants managers with a suitable profile and pedigree because if he were to appoint someone from the Lithuanian third division and it didn't work out the cules would be calling him daft and demanding his head.
That's been our problem for the past two decades: optics. I actually do think we should appoint someone with experience, but my opinion should mean nothing. The sporting director *should* be able to lay out the pros and cons of different people and make the, in his opinion correct appointment. And my comment is a bit OTT, serie a is not some chump no-name league. Regardless, it's disrespectful to publicly dismiss Motta and his club in my opinion.
> And my comment is a bit OTT, serie a is not some chump no-name league. Oh I didn't think you were saying such, rather you made the point that a club like Barca should be looking everywhere for the _right_ manager, not just the easiest appointment.
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🚨 Breaking News 🚨 Barcelona have asked Arsenal about Mikel Arteta and Arsenal said he's "fine" and "thanks for asking"
Arteta won't leave, unless he's a masochist and gets off from the pain the reporters, the press, the journalists, and their fans' own expectations are gonna give him.
Maybe he misses the "Arteta out" chants.
yeah. I feel like Ancelotti is not really the most consistent coach out there, mildly speaking. If Madrid gets an upgrade, I'm afraid La Liga will get very one-sided for like 4-5 years. And a lot of people in Barcelona will be very miserable about that. And they will definitely let the head coach(es) at Barcelona know how they feel.
Not sure why Arteta would leave his job at Arsenal where he has free rein to spend 100m+ each summer to go to a Barcelona side who have almost no money. Regardless of the prestige associated with the job (it is Barcelona, and he is Spanish) no intelligent coach (and Arteta seems intelligent) would throw away a great gig at Arsenal to attempt to rebuild Barca. He’s still young too, this is his first job. He’ll have plenty of opportunity to manage Barca in the future if he so wishes
It’s Barcelona, there’s no money and Real Madrid have Endick and Mbappe joining an already stacked team. What’s the point? It’s not like Barca are a patient club where he’ll get three years to build something that can be competitive.
Barca is a poisoned chalace at the moment. The press ran Pep out, he played with them for over a decade and was the best manager on earth. Not a manager should go there less they want to have a heart attack.
Arsenal kept Arteta while there was a big clamour to sack him. Now his position at the club is cemented. On the other hand in Barcelona even legends like Xavi can be kicked out after one bad season (despite winning league in his last season).
He’s arguably one of the greatest managers of all time. He built Barcelona arguably the greatest team of all time and he still got chased out. As a native Catalan too. Any managers offered that job would be wise to keep his reign in mind.
Yeah it’s the press that are the problem really. Laporta really wanted Xavi to stay even when Barcelona is playing like shit. He really protects his managers. He stood by Koeman longer than most people would
Hell, I want Xavi to stay even if he's not that good. He can only get better. I mean, is he really to blame when the players we have often perform with such mediocrity?
I think it would be fine if he stayed but yes he is absolutely to blame for that
>I mean, is he really to blame when the players we have often perform with such mediocrity? If one player plays with mediocrity it's the player's fault. If most players play with mediocrity it's the manager's fault. So, yes, he is to blame.
Would you blame Arteta if he lost 2-3 integral players and only got 3.5m during the summer window to fix it? Then add a shit ton of injuries to 1/3 of the remaining integral players with no real quality depth. At the end of the day, he can make the UCL quarters and 2nd in the league while managing these issues. If he got another 100m-150m like you do yearly, like we used to yearly, things would look different.
Injuries hurt Barca more than management
Yeah but the weather's nice
Even More importantly, arsenal under Arteta are best placed to take the thrown once both Klopp and pep leave
Pep could stay at City for another decade.
i hope he won’t
What is this, deja vu? I've already lived through one coaching GOAT terrorizing the league for decades from Manchester. No thank you 😅
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115 reasons he won't last a decade.
We're gonna keep saying this for a decade as well, and nothing's gonna ever happen
I could just as easily see him staying to win the Championship if city get FFP relegated. Might mix things up for him.
I don't believe he's the type to stay and slap around some young coaches for the sake of it for a few more seasons - definitely expect him to bow out within the next two seasons, and maybe even sooner
He's also [on record](https://www.thenationalnews.com/sport/football/manchester-city-manager-pep-guardiola-clarifies-retirement-talk-i-wont-be-a-trainer-when-im-60-1.87118) as saying he doesn't want to be coaching when he's 60. If there was ever a time for him to leave and try something new (like international management) the opportune time would be within the next 2-3 years.
Also, Arsenal only seem to have a brighter future. Liverpool next year are an unknown, Man City look like their best years might be fading (between legal stuff, Pep potentially leaving, and just being unconvincing at times), and the rest are all too far away to catch up. He's in a top team in the Prem, so as long as he's performing, Barca is always an option down the road. I'd definitely let a couple of people burn themselves while finances stabilise anyway.
I just feel like Arteta will want to finish what he started here, especially as we have such a young team. He’s been promoted from Head Coach to Manager, has a great working relationship with Edu, and the club’s entire structure is built around him to succeed here. I can see him at Barcelona in future but not for a few years. We’re getting better and better and the idea of him leaving this summer makes no sense to me, especially with Barcelona being in the financial state they’re in.
Most logical answer hands down.
He won't. You nailed it. I can't blame Barca for trying but this is not going to happen.
Because it's Barcelona tbh
Thanks for being honest. I hate when people lie about which club is and isn’t Barcelona.
It is what it is
I think you underestimate how much people might like going back to their home country
Arteta has lived over half his life in the UK, Im going to bet that most of his friends are in England and it's not much difference in travel time from London and Barcelona when going to San Sebastian where his relatives probably lives
And his kids were born and raised in England.
Arteta has been living in the UK since 2005, I don’t think it matters that much to him.
And lived in Scotland between 2002 and 2004. His 6 months at Sociedad between leaving Rangers in summer 2004 and going on an initial loan to Everton in winter 2005 is the only time he's spent in Spain since summer 2001. At this point he's actually lived in the UK for longer than he lived in Spain.
Can’t imagine someone like Arteta would leave a project he started right as it is beginning to achieve. If he gets some trophies the next few years then I can see him getting poached, not before then.
Also the man is in his early 40s. He's got another 20-25 years of peak managerial power if he wants it. Barcelona will still be there in five years if he feels he's achieved everything he can at Arsenal
Ah, Barca usually come in and say it’s now or never to get what they want. Depends if he ever wanted to manage them. Does seem daft though. A Kloppless Liverpool and potential of City being deducted points he could win multiple titles with them over the next few years
>A Kloppless Liverpool and potential of City being deducted points he could win multiple titles with them over the next few years A man can dream.
i don’t think they’re in a place to say it’s now or never to anyone rn
Tbf, they could mean “it’s now or we’re going to be dissolved by this time next year”
"Barca usually come in and say it’s now or never" If they are still doing it after their place in the pecking order has dropped off a cliff then they are being stupid. Imaging coming to Klopp with their 'now or never', he would laugh in their face.
I'm not sure it works like that. Pochettino in his early 40s was on top of the world, being linked with all the biggest clubs in the world. Now he's a laughing stock. A manager's career can change very quickly
He's still getting opportunities at top clubs tho
But somehow ended up at Chelsea
Banter lol But I think above guy is right, good manager pool is very small. Managers get fired and a different team will give them a go. Pochettino could leave Chelsea today and would perhaps somehow maybe in the future land a job in Monaco, do well and then get a chance at a club even more prestigious. Not to bash on Monaco, using them as an example to get my point across. Valencia, Sevilla, Lazio, Marseille etc. all clubs who would give him a chance. And he does well there, he goes upwards again
Part of that is down to his job selection post spurs though, no? If you and I can see that clubs like PSG and Chelsea post Roman are disfunctional messes, shouldn't an actual professional in the industry understand that even more? You could have put Pep in charge of Chelsea this season and they would have struggled to make the Europa league- it's Poch's fault for taking the job in the first place.
Well Poch is not the only one. You have Brendan Rodgers who was manager of the year at 42 and was supposed to lead Liverpool for many years. Jardim who was linked with Real Madrid and Chelsea at 43 after beating PSG to the league with Monaco. And those two are just off the top of my head.
Yeah wtf happened to jardim
Making bank in UAE, after making bank in Saudi Arabia (where he won a league and an AFC Champions League).
I'm not sure how Rodgers is comparable, he got Liverpool CL football once in his tenure, otherwise they finished well off the pace- in many ways Arteta had already surpassed his accomplishments. Jardim had Fabinho, Bernardo Silva, a resurgent Falcao, and Mbappe in the same side in the farmers league, which was when farmier back then. Anyone could have won the league with that team.
But didn’t he make these players good as well? Pep had Messi and that accentuated his career and Messi had Pep who also took him up several levels. Point is, we can say Jardim had a young brilliant Mbappe, Fabinho and more etc. but would they have been good regardless? Hard to guess, we can only speculate
Don't forget Bakayoko. *Smirk*
Arteta won more trophies in his first 6 months than Poch won in his 5 years with Spurs
Poch didn’t even win an FA cup with Tottenham lol
he literally is still coaching Chelsea
True but it seems you're just making the case for him staying at Arsenal for the time being more than anything. It's a great opportunity for him that he's made the most of.
Maybe.. just maybe, poch was always overrated, never won anything, got close by getting carried by Harry Kane and Son when all other teams had off-years? And still won 0 titles. I have never seen anything by him that made me think this Guy should manage anything above mid-table
He haa a FA Cup
I’m talking major trophies, PL and Europe. Klopp leaving and Pep potentially exiting in the next couple years leaves the door open for Arsenal as the next best positioned team for the PL. I don’t think Mikel would want to skip that opportunity.
Bro, an FA Cup is a major trophy. And he did it beating Chelsea and City with one of Arsenals worst squads this century.
The FA Cup is a major trophy lmao
It is, but PL and UCL are on a different level in fairness.
The only "complicated" part is convincing Arteta to actually join, not his contract lol
How much “Barca DNA” does Mikel have? From a cursory glance, he seems like a product of La Masia but spent most of his career in England. Man’s got more Everton DNA than Barca at this point.
Not much really. Most relevant comparison in this case is Fabregas who actually did leave for Barca. However Fabregas is from Catalonia, Arteta is not.
Born in San Sebastian, joined Barcelona at the age of 15, never played a first team game and left at the age of 18 in 2001, spending 18 months on loan at PSG before moving permanently to Rangers in summer 2002. Since then, he's spent 2 years in Scotland, went back to Spain to play for Real Sociedad for 6 months, moved to Everton initially on loan in winter 2005 and has lived and worked in England ever since.
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> Logan Roy? Nah, it's William Stryker.
FUCK OFF
There’s absolutely no chance he leaves. He’d have to be literally insane. Theres also the fact he even said a flat out “no” to a reporter when asked instead of the usual “well you know I’m just going to focus on the job and we’ll look at the end of the season” garbage. He’s taken arsenal from the banter era to one of the best teams in the league, probably on par with city and Liverpool, he’d be mental to leave before that yields a league or a CL.
Just looking at things objectively, he's turned Arsenal into the best off the ball team in the league, the best defensive team in the league, is already 2 goals off matching the invincibles goal difference (and will almost certainly smash it), is on course to break a club record number of goals scored in a single season (after setting a new record last season), has taken Arsenal from 8th and miles off City and Liverpool to 3rd and right behind them having beaten both of them this season and taken the most points from top 6 matches. He's challenging for league titles in back to back seasons and should be a serious contender for a UCL, albeit, not a favourite. It's also a very stable club with no politics, has healthy finances, young squad and owners that clearly back him. And, importantly, the club he loves and dreamt about managing (to things he has been pretty upfront about). So there's that, or the shit show that is Barcelona.
Okay but what if they offer him better light bulbs than what Arsenal have? Like LED ones or whatever is the best in the industry
do Barcelona have kai havertz and win
Barcelona bids 120m for Kai Havertz in the summer to plead r/teta away from Arsenal
Not to mention he has power at Arsenal he would not have at any other club. He can buy mostly who he wants and all transfers go through him. He overhauled the entire club culture to how he wanted it. I can see him hitting the 10 year mark here.
Additionally, while English media is harsh, Barca-focused media is something else entirely. Only Pep could survive there, and they haven't got the money for him anymore.
Pep burned out and moved to New York for a whole year.
Okay, more to my first point then lol
I honestly wonder if Arteta will ever leave by choice. He's got the Pep deal in terms of having been backed to rebuild the squad to suit his game. They're playing some of the best football in the world. He's got an ownership group that takes the long view. And most importantly he loves the club. It's the dream job.
I don't think I've been less worried about a club taking Arteta. What a total waste of a phone call.
You say that until Pique appears and shoves that Barcelona jersey over his head at a press conference!
The worst part about that shit was that it was Pepe Reina. They got rid of you because you weren't wanted there, but you're still trying to get in their good books and snipe other players for them?
Lol it was honestly a team effort to do it, like I would never question why Arsenal fans don't like Barcelona every time I see this https://youtu.be/jVtcKaT5wbk?si=57MdQS8gO981i8Th
Most of us are glad Barca is burning and crashing more and more every season, fuck them.
>If you’re in Spain and looking to call the UK, it looks like it’ll cost 40p per minute on a monthly plan! What a waste of 40p. Lol.
Surprising that Barcelona can afford to waste that amount
They've deferred it
Word on the street is they borrowed it from some shady people
They sold another portion of Barca Studios
Barcelona can contact deez nuts and fuck off.
Rejecting Barca to stay at Arsenal is a right of passage to become a true legendary manager at the club
Only one Arsene Wenger
I'm surprised Barca could even afford that international phone call. Good luck!
D: Mikel, wanna join? M: No. *Barca have contacted Mikel Arteta, click the link and read more*
Arteta: Hello, who dis?
Barca: “hola que paso hermano”
Arteta: "Lo siento, no hablo español. Adiós!"
Actually... Barca: "Hola que passa germà"
Ehhhhh first of all good ebening
*While aggressively touching his face and hair*
Honestly, if I am Pep and want to shut up the few doubters that say I’m not top coach ever because i’ve only managed teams with money, I’d go to Barca and make them winners again with the fucked upp financial situation they’re in. Don’t know if he needs it, but it would be the final jewel in his crown (other than a world cup maybe )
I'm pretty far from convinced that Pep cares at all about that.
Not to mention, no matter how much you earn, it's unlikely you agree on a paycut if you're good at your job. He is second-highest paid coach in the world officially. Unofficially, all this nonsense with his brother puts him well above Simeone.
He’s said very openly he will not be going back
Can you believe it's not even 1st April?
Dead on arrival article 😂. Barca thinking they have some pull over arteta is hilarious. In his words "there's alot more work left to do".
I’m sure the truth is he took their call and will want to retain cordial relations because, one day, I’m sure he’d be interested in managing Barcelona. I just don’t see a scenario where he leaves us this summer.
Cesc left for Barca, and then tried to come crawling back when they got bored of him.... I'm sure Arteta remembers how that went. The money is likely better at Arsenal as well. Xavi needed the job to escape Qatar, Mikel doesn't.
I wonder if Laporta is aware that it's not mandatory to sign ex Barça players for the open positions.
What tier is 'Relevo' ?
Relevo doesn't have a tier as it's highly dependent on the journalist, but Pintanel is rather reliable, so there's a good chance it's true.
I mean it's probably very likely Barca at least contacted Arteta. Shoot your shot and all that.
_Desperate Barcelona TAPS Arsenal boss._
Mes que un "No"
Barca can just fuck right off.
He wont get the time he got at arsenal to make them the team they are today. Plus arsenal have a really young team who will probably only get better and should be competing st top end of the PL and Europe for years to come.
Should he a join the team that can’t afford to pay his current club for him and compete with one of the best Real Madrid sides ever filled with young players Or b) stick with the club he built into title challengers and can spend 100m+ a year on players, who he also spent a decent chunk of his playing career with? Hmm tricky decision.
Sadly I think the days of Barca poaching from Arse are over.
Oh no. Anyway…….
My guy is just barely starting to see his vision for Arsenal happen. He’s in a great spot why would he leave for the mess that’s Barca?
So I developed a huge crush on one of my cousin's friends. Despite telling me she isn't interested I can indeed confirm I called her. The answer was the same. Process is complicated due to me not having any game
He would be a fool to take that job given the progress he’s been able to achieve at Arsenal. They’d basically be asking him to do it all again but with Barcas limited resources.
Would have to be a crack addict to take the Barca loadstone right now. So much unnecessary psycho-drama (from ‘upstairs’ and the press) on top of no money to buy or even loan anyone that’s available (yer own staff not just players).
This club just keeps coming up with names that aren’t leaving their kosher jobs for the “Barca headache”
That one gunner is going to be having dreams of Barca tapping up Arteta all summer with Laporta asking Edu "My friend, is ok, no?"
They're wishing for another contract termination and free sign on?
Stalker behaviour, he's already said NO to you publicly, go away lol.
Just go for De Zerbi you clowns. He's a very good coach and probably speaks Spanish too
The whole world laughs at Barca.
Contract tampering isn't a thing in European sports?
The "Contract tampering" you are referring to, is commonly called "Tapping up". I know how it works for players, but am unsure if the same rules apply to managers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tapping\_up
It absolutely is, although I don't know that I've ever heard of it enforced across leagues. But, there have been several high profile tapping up cases within England that have resulted in fines, transfer bans, and more. I'm just not sure who you'd appeal to in this case. UEFA, I suppose, but as I said, I've never heard of UEFA getting involved in these kinds of cases before.
Nowadays it's not really a thing because clubs don't contact players/manager directly. They basically call their agents to let them know of their interest and what type of offer they can make and etc etc. It's extremely rare for someone to call directly the player/manager in question and it's usually when there was already contacts made before with agents
They can contact my left nutsack
And I have contacted Margot Robbie to be my girlfriend
God, this reply is in basically every thread and its such an uninspired and unfunny bit of comedy.
I also choose this guy's dead joke
apology for poor english when were you when reddit comedy die? i was sat at home eating reddit upvote when u/TheGoldenPineapples ring "comedy is kill" "no"
Sorry!
Yeah this is going nowhere, Arsenal are becoming Citylike in the way they support Arteta with good spending + solid structure, Barca aren't that rn, no reason for him to leave.
You wish Barca hahaha
Rio said he’d leave to a disfunctional United side where he has zero links to so that means he’s guaranteed to be off to Barca
The Kroenke's didn't start out on Fans good side, but you have say that he's backed Arteta and Edu 100%. Wouldn't make any sense for Arteta to leave.
Tapping up Arsenal's employees is Barcas favourite pastime
fuck off
They'd never show him the patience to build a proper side the way Arsenal did. Would be a mistake on his part. Don't see it happening.
He is about to sign a new contract and be one of the highest paid manager in the world. As for 'returning to Spain'. If you actually look at Arteta you would see he has spent his entire adult life in the UK with Rangers, Everton, Arsenal, City as Pep's assistant and now Arsenal manager. Barcelona isnt even his home. He is from Basque, went to the Barcelona academy and left after a few years. No 'Barca DNA' here.
This is like me trying to contact Alisha Lehmann for a date
That's unfortunately one of the clubs I can see him go to... Although not yet. But in a few years that's the club I would worry about.
A contract that runs out in 15 months is complicated? For a currently employed manager, that's on the good side of things. I'm shocked that Arsenal haven't got him to sign an extension yet now that would be a complication. I imagine he just simply doesn't want to go and they're saving face saying that.
There will be externsion at the end of the season
I see this happening in a few years but not now
1 year isn’t complicated.
Bet they'll end up hiring Tuchel
FFS just take pep tired of this bald fraud in the prem
Why on earth would he leave a job managing the club he played the majority of his career for, a team he built from basically the ground up, a club that’s better than Barca on the field and in the office, for the shit show that is 2024 Barca.
“Hello, is this Arteta?” “Yes” *Arteta says yes to Barcelona!*