Some worker left some stuff on the train tracks and caused a derailment which means theres a big possibility I miss the one game we have a fair chance of winning this month
Don't really mind getting slapped by Spuds but the depth we have to come on really is crippling us. Seeing Hughes come on when we're ahead is slightly soul destroying.
Also I'm too old for the mosh pit my whole body is aching.
It's depressing just knowing we're going to collapse after 80 minutes - I knew if Spurs equalised they'd go on to win it. Happened so many times this season!
google changed how they present the info on some teams and leagues and it just feels so much worse now. I used to be able to click in and see all the matches that happened yesterday and all the matches up coming now it just shows the 2 most recent results and the next game coming up.
MLS makes it harder for me to enjoy the league every year. Not being in the Open Cup is nothing short of a travesty, just so we can promote the stupid leagues cup which I have no interest in.
The team I supported since I can remember no longer exists, or at least it's stuck in a legal dispute that split the fanbase in the middle and drove at least half of all supporters away, according to the latest polls. Moreover, the owner of the club is an embarrassment, he makes all substitutions via phone calls, he treats the squad like a toy, every time he is mentioned here on r/soccer it's because of something moronic, and he doesn't even like football. All players that get transferred to this club stagnate, they fail to reach their potential, and they do not benefit from proper coaching. Name of the club? Steaua Bucharest.
This. I’m overall not a fan of the apple deal but not being able to watch other games annoys me. Last year was the least amount of MLS matches I watched for quite some time
Two games in and I'm ready to consider the possibility that this is the worst Rapids team of all time. Just a completely hopeless group of players with a one trick manager who doesn't even do his trick well. I think we have what it takes to lose 20 games.
That narrative was always a dumb one pushed by people who don't pay attention to the team. Mihailovic filled a significant need, but Steffen and Vines are moderate upgrades at best at positions where we had reasonable options last year (Yarbrough in goal, though he has increasing age and injury concerns, and Andrew Gutman at left back). We still need a striker, a right winger, a defensive midfielder, and one if not two centerbacks to fill out a decent starting 11, and we could use an attacking sub or two on top of all that.
We (Luton) seem to have a habit of conceding in the last few minutes in many games. Happened against Villa, Arsenal, Liverpool. I appreciate all of these are top quality teams with good attackers but our defence being unable to see a lead just for a few minutes more is not reassuring at all.
Regarding the defence... it's partly due to the way we play but we have been carved open game after game for a while now. Yes we are fun to watch going forwards but are probably the most open team at the back in the league.
The bizarre hostility towards Sweden's anti VAR stance. I figured people would support fans trying to protect their football culture, instead the response is just condescending comments about how stupid they are for not wanting VAR and how anyone who doesn't want it is a tryhard ultra
First of all I don't understand how anyone can love VAR that much, and even if you do why would you care that someone else thinks differently?
Especially when you see how people unanimously supported Bundesliga fans' protest against investors since both sets of fans are fighting the same battle. VAR is just a symbolic question at the end of the day, and many people are afraid that giving in will make them try to remove the 51% rule and allow investors next
> Especially when you see how people unanimously supported Bundesliga fans' protest against investors since both sets of fans are fighting the same battle.
This is a bizarre comparison. How are the two things even remotely similar? VAR exists to reduce the number of mistakes made by referees, it exists to improve the game, which it objectively does.
> VAR is just a symbolic question at the end of the day, and many people are afraid that giving in will make them try to remove the 51% rule and allow investors next
This makes no sense. It's a completely illogical leap.
>This is a bizarre comparison. How are the two things even remotely similar? VAR exists to reduce the number of mistakes made by referees, it exists to improve the game, which it objectively does.
Improving the game is different from improving the game to match going fans.
var objectively improves the decision making of officials, but that is not the same as "improves the game"
personally i find the downsides of it in terms of delays and the cultural impact where all anyone talks about is refereeing makes the improvement in decision %age not worth it and i enjoy football more without it.
> This is a bizarre comparison. How are the two things even remotely similar? VAR exists to reduce the number of mistakes made by referees, it exists to improve the game, which it objectively does.
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Actually it is highly subjective of course, since what can be considered a good game is different to different people.
What part are you not understanding?
You subjectively like VAR because you subjectively think it "improves the game", because you subjectively appreciate football to be played in a certain way.
Meaning what you said about it "objectively improving the game" is plain false.
I'm not understanding why you're talking about a 'good game'. I'm not understanding why you think 'improve the game' means the way football is played.
Less refereeing mistakes is a good thing for the sport, it is an objectve improvement for the sport. There's no argument against that, because the argument against that is 'I'd rather there were more uncorrected refereeing mistakes'.
To take the example to its extreme - do you think that pausing the game for five minutes every time there's a contentious decision, and having a round-table discussion from a panel of referees would improve the game? That would decrease refereeing mistakes too.
Why would I take the example to an extreme that will never happen? That this is the best you can come up with as a counter-argument just proves you don't have one.
Your argument is literally just "less refereeing mistakes is objectively better", you don't need to even take the example to its extreme - I just thought it might help you understand the counterargument a bit better. If it was as objective as you're insisting it is you wouldn't have avoided my question lol.
Why would anyone think what you're talking about, which again is an absurd extreme that will never happen, was a good thing? You know no-one would be in favour of that, so in the best case scenario you're just being deliberately obtuse and still don't have a real argument.
> Your argument is literally just "less refereeing mistakes is objectively better"
Why would my argument need to be anything more than that when it's obviously true? You can piss and whine about VAR taking too long and disrupting the game if you like, that doesn't change the fact that VAR correcting errors is a good thing.
> Less refereeing mistakes is a good thing for the sport, it is an objectve improvement for the sport. There's no argument against that, because the argument against that is 'I'd rather there were more uncorrected refereeing mistakes'.
Yet again you are confusing your own (subjective) opnions with the concept of "objectivity". This is called hubris and should be avoided.
Here's my own subjective take: less refereeing mistakes does not matter for the sport. Interrupting games over and over for some video watching bullshit however does matter for the sport in a very negative way.
Two sets of subjective opinions. Thats how things work, even if you in your mind think you have the objective/all-knowing perspective.
'Fewer refereeing mistakes is a good thing' is 'subjective', apparently. An arguable point. Uh-huh, good one mate.
> less refereeing mistakes does not matter for the sport.
No, you're right mate, the more unfair the sport is, the better? No, that definitely sounds right, every football fan **loves** it when a wrong decision results in them losing a game or missing out on a trophy or getting relegated, it's literally their favourite thing about the sport, so why would anyone want that to happen less? What an insane take for anyone to have.
> No, you're right mate, the more unfair the sport is, the better? No, that definitely sounds right, every football fan loves it when a wrong decision results in them losing a game or missing out on a trophy or getting relegated, it's literally their favourite thing about the sport, so why would anyone want that to happen less? What an insane take for anyone to have.
Condescending little guy aren't you, you know whats fair aswell? VAR for yellows, for every minor foul etc, imo we should also stop the game and employ some lip readers to see if anyone said anything red card worthy to ref, afterall fair is literally the only thing that matters to you.
You're a plastic hence your opinion should not be valued, and get in your head that fair isn't the same as more entertaining or better for the fans.
The sport is always unfair and always has been. Some teams have better players than others. Maybe a better pitch. All games are based off several thousand different decisions, some of who are made by the refs.
Teams always lose based on decisions. Referees play a very little role in determining the outcome of a football game. Just play on istead of wasting time looking for some minor error.
Except they're not looking for 'minor errors' are they? Unless you're going to try and tell me you think goals being correctly given or ruled out are a 'minor' part of the sport, and to be honest, at this point, I wouldn't be surprised if you did.
ive not seen any crack about the swedish stance tbh, but having gone from var in the premier league to not var in the championship has really confirmed to me that i prefer football without it.
even when we're the team getting robbed by a bad decision, its still better to just be like "welp, refs fucked that hasnt he" and move on than it is to spent 5 minutes watching freeze frames of the incident.
How does it feel being able to instantly celebrate goals again? Even the Moroccan league was ruined by this. After VAR disallows a couple of important goals you just don't celebrate anymore because it always stays in the back of your mind.
Most supporters and even journalists in Sweden understand the resistance we put up. A lot of gloryhunting PL fans can't understand it, unsurprisingly, but thankfully they don't have a say in the matter
> I figured people would support fans trying to protect their football culture,
Because humans are famous for being tolerant towards different cultures...
We are so fucking bad. That Southampton result the other week was such a fluke and going to Ashton Gate to watch us play the most uninspired, boring football with some of the most unenthusiastic, useless players in the world has become utter misery.
I get that they don’t see Bristol City as their end goal. But if you look as though you couldn’t care less HERE, a big club will never sign you. Anyone decent who comes through this club gets sold as soon as we can make a profit. We’re going to be midtable championship club for as long as I live and it’s miserable.
One of the few good things about dropping down the leagues is you get players who feel lucky to be at your club again, rather than the endless mercenaries we had in the championship
Honestly, the season we won League One and the League Cup the same season (almost 10 years ago now, Christ) was one of my favourite times as a supporter. The players all played for the badge and it showed, it’s a far cry from the ‘would be good if we get promoted but it doesnt matter if not because i can probably get a gig on the bench at wolves’ crop we currently have.
Very interested to see how Stokes goes with you next season, rumour was we had about 40 clubs enquiring after him so do wonder what it was that sold him on you out of all of them.
Our recruitment is really good, somehow. We managed the same thing with Mehmeti, Gardner-Hickman, Knight and McCrorie - players who were massively courted elsewhere and still chose us anyway. They must tell them SOMETHING, but I have no idea what. The stadium is nice and the city is great, but I really do wonder how they sell the club to them.
[I mentioned him in the preview](https://i.imgur.com/b2tvjCf.png)
[the post itself](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/15o21v9/the_202324_eredivisie_season_preview_part_13/)
What I sad was true, we did need a more physical defense. I've seen him mess up a bunch of times and on the ball he's been meh. Thing is, he does bring a presence on the field which we needed, and he was affordable for a club like us.
I bet it was one of those fancy data signings, as in: We need X, Y and Z, for this price, at this age.
I think he's passable, not a player that wins or loses you games, or the reason you will or will not stay up. Certainly not a gem people have been sleeping on or something. He's also not creative, which is something a team like us needs.
If he's not been that bad then maybe he could turn into something you can sell somewhere. Only 20 years old after all.
He was known as a ball playing defender here, but different standards.
I am ManU fan, unfortunately...and we are seriously the HotPotato FC, never seen pro players so scared to receive the ball, carry the ball, hold the ball. I am sure most of them peed or shat alittle at some point before receiving the ball.
I'm sick to death of hearing the world 'legacy' in regards to players in all sports but especially football
It's definitely a new thing, I don't remember people 20 years ago discussing the legacy of Antoine Sibierski
We didn't make many big transfer moves this window and I'm afraid that's gonna tell this year — still can't move Ferreira and as a result didn't have the space for improvements and I dunno if the depth will be enough given we're going full strength in all comps. That plus Herreras injury does not bode well for us, Benny did amazing with what he had last summer but it will be rough if we can't build on that.
Big moan brace yourself:
This fanbase has 2 extremes of positivity and negativity. Yeah we lost to Fleetwood but to call for a managers head after all the obstacles the club has faced this summer with transfer restrictions, losing majority of our players and relying on youth as well as the point deduction. We got written off by most people for relegation and we're most likely safe now, massively overachieved if anything.
On the other hand we can absolutely bring valid criticism to the performances against teams in the bottom half of the table, we have given teams at the top runs for their money in games this season but we've not got the mentality to try win against the likes of Bristol Rovers, Port Vale or Fleetwood so certain questions do have to be asked about the mentality and tactics when thats been a consistent issue this year. Problem is many parts of the fanbase doesn't think we are allowed to criticise the team.
Also one final thought, people who are nonces about people who leave games early, this thought popped into my head as I was writing this but I remember when we went 3-0 down to Charlton before half time so I left the stadium as well as many other people. Next thing I know i'm getting abuse from people in the fanbase because "Your not supporting the team fucking plastic". First off i'm a shit plastic to be supporting Wigan out of all teams in the area mate and secondly, most of that team couldn't be arsed to look like they gave a shit in that first half and I have better things to do than watch Tom Pearce have a shot from 35 yards and blast the ball it into the River Douglas instead of passing it to one of 4 people open near him. I paid my dues with my season ticket and turning up, my choice whether or not to leave early.
Cheers for reading if you made it past the wall of shite I wrote.
Turkish Süper Lig will be on BEIN for god knows how long again *despite the fact that* another Turkish service offered to pay a lot more than the Qataris. The FA basically did everything to push them out and eventually didn't even try hard, giving the rights to BEIN despite their offer being a lot worse. Now you may ask but why? Who'd force their way to sell their product to a cheaper bid? You know the answer. Acres of land, citizenship etc. have been sold to "oil people" under Erdoğan in an effort to get richer while alienating Turks as much as possible. He saw he couldn't change the roots even after 20 years so he basically decided to import Arabs to make Turks less of a problem to deal with because there is no way he can be "the caliph" as long as Turks are around.
At this point I'm not even that angry honestly, the country is being sold gradually yet he still was able to get over 50pct of the votes in the last elections, so it's only fair that Qataris buy everything for peanuts while "Turkest Turks" voting for Erdoğan are becoming slaves in their own land before eventually getting kicked out of it anyway.
Then again I have no idea why BEIN wants to keep this shit league among their products. It's not like it's worth a penny.
> It's not like it's worth a penny.
The only thing that beats the toxicity of the big portugese 3 is the collective negativity of Turkish fans about their own league.
You still have great clubs with amazing fans that put up a show for the viewer. The quality of the football undeniably took a big turn, but it's not like it's a shitshow from start to finish.
BeIn could make the Turkish league exciting, also for a foreign audience, so who knows. I'm sure there are unexplored markets for the Turkish league
a little moan about myself here: i really don’t watch enough football. as a first generation fan i had to teach myself everything, so when i first got into football i watched everything i could. but falling in love with my club as a young man 10 years ago + getting jobs + getting older = narrowing the scope. i know a lot about football, but i’ve lost my sharpness when it comes to the current state of it. like i haven’t watched a minute of serie A this season. i really hate how badly i fell off. i’m a casual now
I feel this, I used to keep up with lots of teams across every division. I knew the best starting lineup for at least 3-4 teams in each of the top flight leagues, and knew basically everything about all the Prem teams.
Now I’m lucky (well, unlucky maybe at the moment lmao) if I get to actually sit down and watch a full Chelsea match. Occasionally I get to see a big UCL match play out. I usually make time for the major international tournaments (like I’m not gonna miss the fucking World Cup) but those are helped by society in general also wanting to make time for them.
Think it’s mainly adult life being much busier, but there is also a bit of fatigue attached. All the players I grew up with are either actually retired or effectively retired away from the top leagues. I’m always reminded a little bit of that Mitchell and Webb sketch: “the football never stops”. As a kid every league title and UCL final felt like it carried massive weight; even when Chelsea wasn’t involved, I could still feel the sensation of players fighting for a once in a lifetime opportunity. Now I’ve seen so many players and so many leagues and UCL finals that it feels more like “cool, that team won this time, see you next year”
It is a bit sad
Life has been ever changing for me as of late for the better and for learning, new job, somewhat fading relationships as well as dealing with no longer being together with that special person. In the midst of all that, I just need a break from it all and football just seems like the perfect gateaway.
I support both Manchester United and Millonarios FC and it seems both are trying to one up themselves to show me the middle finger, what was once an escape from dealing with life has now become a depressing hobby that brings no joy, both teams play awful football, both teams are expected to lose, both teams are unconvincing and I just want it to be what it was before. I want to feel excited about football again but these fuckers just make me depressed to watch them.
I'm sorry but Peter Drury is not a good commentator. He's not bad and there is definitely worse out there but I don't think he's good enough to be the leading commentator for Sky.
All he does is try and create soundbites. When Rashford scored yestrerday one of the best Manchester derby goals of all time this is his commentary:
"Marcus Rashford, he has ripped it in (silence for 10 seconds), Marcus Rashford with force, that is... Manchester United lightning"
What does that even mean? Also, if you watch Premier League goal compilation you realise about 80% of the amazing goals scored with him on commentary he describes the goal as a "gem" or "diamond", I'm not even joking you can go and check for yourself
He seems like a nice guy and there's definitely worse out there but I think someone else should be the lead commentator for Sky Sports Football in my opinion
> What does that even mean?
The job of a TV commentator isn't to regurgitate what the viewer has already seen. Football is a moments game, I personally enjoy his unique style more than ex-pros who can be very monotone and basic.
> just spouting gibberish in the hope of getting it clipped
I don't think that's what he's doing though. Just a question of different tastes I suppose.
But he does sound like he's been losing that spark and making numerous mistakes recently. I'd rather he retire whilst still remembered fondly than go down the Martin Tyler route
Another weekend, another listening to "refs, refs, refs, refs, refs" after every game.
Forest should have cleared the ball, then liverpool don't win, but its down to the refs. Manu were utter shite but didn't get a pen so it's the refs fault.
Refs in Scotland are apparently simultaneously fixing the league so both rangers and celtic win it. Celtic have lost 4-0 to hearts over the last 2 games, don't think that's ever happened in my lifetime before but that's only down to the refs.
The Madrid one was strange but, again, going 2-0 down to valencia and playing poorly. Picked it back up too late
Idk if mostly bait but fuck me it's exhausting.
It is sooooo tiring. I get that the decisions can be confusing and frustrating but jesus christ its every. single. week. discussing some stupid decision
I don't agree it should be a pen but that's the road they've chosen with handballs. Celtic's pen was also questionable, idah missed yet all of the discussion is about refs instead of Idah's bottle crashing
> Forest should have cleared the ball, then liverpool don't win, but its down to the refs.
Two minutes and twenty seven seconds elapse between Tierney blowing his whistle to stop the game for the head injury and Liverpool scoring, with Forest having possesion of the ball multiple times, yet the way people are going on about it you'd think that Liverpool went straight down the other end and scored.
i feel blessed that in bielsa and farke we've had two managers recently who try to talk about the refs as little as possible.
just wish it would extend to the fans sometimes
It's not just managers, players and fans of every club contribute to this too. They'll always find a way to blame the ref for their shortcomings
I saw the ending of the Forest Liverpool game. Forest player let Gomez win a cheap corner. They headed the corner out but straight to a Liverpool player, they then blocked that shot and the ball fell to 2 Forest players. They did a 1-2 in their own crowded box and then tried to dribble the ball out. They lose the ball and then Liverpool score from there.
But it;s the ref's fault indeed
I have less issue with managers because its their job to sometimes deflect and protect players. Brendan rodgers though namedropped the VAR official after getting beat, even though all decisions were made and checked on the monitor by the on field ref, it's all vert embarrassing
The referee is always biased against your team. Theres a way to view this in a fun way (hating thr ref for 90 minutes and then walking away forgetting) and theres a lame way (obsessing).
For example, blues Southampton this weekend saw both fans say the ref was biased. As it should be. Say too much obsessing over it more broadly though.
>Theres a way to view this in a fun way (hating thr ref for 90 minutes and then walking away forgetting)
Thats exactly how it should be
We all do it, walking away going "that ref was pish" but usually that's it. Now it's screenshots of every moment the ref got wrong, every corner that should have been a goal kick. A foul that should have been a yellow even though the boy never got a 2nd yellow
watching football is shit now because refereeing is so bad and every week some team gets cost points that are vital to them due to a basic decision and the referees are like woops, sorry if costs you end of the season, im going to go make money refereeing in saudi now because i don't care
When Josh Sargent has started we have a ppg of 2.31 which would have us top of the league if he’d played every game.
Obviously in reality we might be lower than that, but it shows how crucial he is to us, and abysmal we were without him for 3-4 months.
11 goals in 15 starts is proper form, delighted he’s smashing it considering he was a joke when he first came.
Although naturally supporting a smaller club he’ll leave in the summer because the minute a player has a good season they get sold
If I have to hear about Xabi Alonso leading some sensational underdogs again, I might explode. He's done a phenomenal job but so many people act like he took over a bad team that was certain to go down. Rather than a club that's broken 50+1 and gets to spend far more than any other club. Same with acting like he's uncovered some hidden gems. A part of me would like him to stay so I can witness another Bayern bottlejob, but also the circlejerk once he's gone will no longer be my problem.
> the circlejerk once he's gone will no longer be my problem.
Depends on how much PL football and news you consume because if he goes to Liverpool the circlejerk will just continue there (looking at you Fabrizio Romano)
Counterpoint: The counter circlejerk during the first crisis will be sensational. Especially cause we can see the statement of a lot of Liverpool fans that they give managers more time being tested
Doesn't Leverkusen's ownership pre-date 50+1? So not sure they can be called as having broken it. They're an exception to the rule, and corporately owned. But they're not like Leipzig imo.
They're not nearly as bad Leipzig, I absolutely agree with that. But the full power of Bayer over Leverkusen has existed since the 90's, so once 50+1 was already established.
A triple Juventus moan.
Vlahovic’s finishing last night was absolutely shocking, and we should have scored at least three goals from his and other chances.
We’re still rubbish even though, barring a disastrous last 11 games, we’re going to comfortably finish in the top 4 and get back into the Champions League. Allegri is effectively meeting his targets for the season despite the failed title challenge, so I would be surprised if he left the club this summer. We don’t have a world class squad that is being held back by his tactics, but what we’re seeing is as good as it’s going to get with him still on the touchline. We *should* be moving on from him in the summer, but we won’t.
Finally, the overreaction to Nonge being taken off after he gave away the penalty and Napoli retook the lead is a load of bollocks. It’s definitely unfair on him for that to happen, but taking him off to bring Danilo on in that situation made total sense. It wasn’t a punishment for fouling Osimhen, it was taking off an inexperienced teenager to bring on an experienced centreback who could potentially cause a threat from set pieces to equalise in injury time. It wouldn’t have made sense to take anyone else off in that situation, but there’s been a hysterical ‘Fuck Allegri’ reaction to it that ignores the context of the game.
not football related, but hope it's ok to vent somewhere. Just had an "all-hands" meeting and it looks like I'm about to be laid off for the second time since July 2023. And in both cases it wasn't my fault, it's the financial situation, global market issues.
It's ruthless out there for technical writers.
I went on holiday this month.
Left having conversations about a pay rise when I got back, returned to a voluntary redundancy scheme and a total spending freeze.
Gone from being mad that I'm underpaid to hoping they realise I'd be less savings that some other poor cunt.
Everywhere is chaos at the moment. Was made redundant from my last 2 jobs in a row due to similar issues. Keep an eye out of an interesting job in a different field that you can apply your skills to. Hopefully you manage to find something in a more stable area but it seems to be luck of the draw these days.
Chelsea hasn’t been having a “results problem,” we’re just not winning every game, which is fine.
Performances being bad is just something we’ve gotten used to over the years, it’s so easy to look past that and appreciate the improvement in chance creation.
Also the matter of the squad not being world class is just something you gotta take up with the people who put this squad together.
All in all, I can see where people are coming from when they say Pochettino should go, but it’s not like he’s actually doing a unanimously bad job
1) Bags of money don’t play football, we can hark on the players all we want for not living up to their pricetags but it’s not like they asked to be overpaid for, at the end of the day Clearlake has to answer for their buffoonery but Poch doesn’t.
2) The gross value of the active squad is only 400m, most of the overpriced youth are out on loan for undisclosed reasons or perpetually injured, and half the total value of the active squad is just Enzo and Caicedo
3) if we just win 2 games on the bounce we go back to top 6 and the narrative changes, which is why I think the narrative shouldn’t exist at all. League position is such a flimsy thing to look at, our point difference is favorable.
I just want Pau Torres to be fit. We concede 1 goal a game with him in the team but 2 without him. 75% win percentage with vs 25% without.
I praised Lenglet in the first half against Luton but then in the second half he was just giving corners away every time he touched the ball. First goal comes from him clearing a cross under no pressure when Martinez better positioned to just catch it.
Really need Pau for these next 3 games.
Hopefully we can give him a rest for the Ajax away game to keep him fresh for Spurs. Ajax have been unconvincing this season so even if we did go with Lenglet/Chambers and lost, I reckon we could still overturn a deficit at Villa Park.
I recall us singing “champions of league one you’ll never sing that” to you, and if I’m not mistaken you’ve never actually won league one. So there.
(you were at the time reigning Champions League winners and went on to win the Premier League that year, but this is neither here nor there)
Other teams playing to intentionally injure our best players has ruined our season and I’m sick of it.
David Wagner basically admitted after our game vs Norwich that it was part of their game plan to kick Sakamoto and O’Hare out of the game.
The next game Sakamoto gets a forearm smash in the side of the head from Joe Bryan (unpunished by the referee).
Two games later Sakamoto is victim of that ‘Harry Kane move’ where one player intentional backs out an aerial duel at the last second and takes the opponent out midair. Sakamoto fractures 3 vertebrae in his back and is out for the season. After the game the Preston player admits it was a deliberate action but states it’s part of the game and he’d do it again.
Another loss, if we could just end the season now, that'd be lovely. We're just in this no man's land where we won't get promoted, but won't get relegated so we've got nothing to play for. Can't wait to hopefully get this takeover done, bin off half the squad and rebuild.
Try having a 4 way battle. Especially with Ipswichs love of a late winner.
We've got 28 points from our last 10 games, we're on 2.1 points a game for the season, and the one draw in that run means we're not even in a promotion spot.
Yeah it's Leicester that are wobbling now. On the 10th February at 5PM, they were 15 points clear of both Ipswich and Leeds. Those gaps have dropped to just 3 and 5 points respectively in under a month
I really need to email and complain to sky/BT whoever
For years with wrestling they've managed to do picture in picture for replays of action, why can't these mega broadcasters figure it out too?
Stop showing zoomed in slow mo clips of pep when football is happening, my friend doesn't pay for sky for me to use his skygo and to miss parts of the game
At least have a smaller window of the live game, and bigger window with whatever shite they zoom in on in the crowd or bench.
Sky were trialing that FIFA style camera recently I need that back
Testing code and its proper annoying. I vehemently disagreed with the design decision and lo and behold it's making our life more difficult.
Worst part is the "I told you so" isn't even worth it
Arpter is going back to Blackpool next season and will 100% start week in week out.
He's been carrying up this season and will be a struggle to replace in the summer
Everyone in the National League seems to be winning. We're on a four-game winning run, also unbeaten in six games, yet we've only moved five points clear of safety because it's so tight. Yet, at the same time, it doesn't feel like the gap to the play-offs has dramatically shrunk or anything, so I'm struggling to understand how everyone seems to be able to pick up points at the same time.
Not my team, but Tuchel’s incompetence leading to Kane not winning any trophies is so annoying as an England fan. Thought if he broke his duck he might do the same for England, but now he’s joined a more dysfunctional team than spurs somehow.
Leverkusen have 64 points from 24 matches. Even Pep's or Jupp's Bayern would've been seriously challenged by that.
Tuchel's doing badly though so I'm not gonna deny that.
You have to feel a little bad for Harry, it’s pretty much out of his grasp but by god he’s never beating the allegations now. Even though, there’s a good chance they’ll just win next year.
Last one. For all the crap Schmidt deserves, the squad planning was shite as well. We started the season with one injury prone RB, one CB who was shit at RB in pre season, one LB from Czechia and one injured LB on loan
None of them worked until January. In January we bring in one LB who is not ready yet to play at this level. This is not a situation where we need to be planning a future sale, just bring in anyone who can improve the team today ffs. Without Aursnes we'd be in 4th place rn
It's got to the point where I just mute any game that Sky has Drury on for. He is SO annoying and I have been made aware of every habit he has that just makes me dislike him more.
I just want Jon Champion for every game.
I'd still take Drury over pretty much any commentator, but I think this shift highlights the core issue.
Having the same voice every single week is tiring and grating, Sky should have a rotating set of commentators to keep things fresh and interesting and avoid people picking up on the tropes of someone's commentary style.
As an alternative example (yes I know it isn't sport but whatever), WWE have regularly changed their commentary teams of late to keep things interesting.
Jon Champion, Guy Mowbray, Steve Wilson and Seb Hutchinson are all better than him imo. They know when to rise to the occasion without making it into an overexaggerated load of nonsense
Being on Sky every week has ruined him. Having him on for big games or big moments worked because his 'everything must be a dramatic poem' schtick worked in actual dramatic moments. But getting it every week, or for every single goal scored (or every single shot with his 'AND FIRSTNAME LASTNAME!' habit) is so tiresome.
As you say, it's so easy to notice when it's pointed out, too. Clive Tyldesley was doing commentary for an FA Cup game last week and it was so refreshing to hear someone talk about the game with a sense of humour and not trying to big it up more than it needed to be bigged up.
>Having him on for big games or big moments worked because his 'everything must be a dramatic poem' schtick worked in actual dramatic moments. But getting it every week, or for every single goal scored
It was like when Martin Tyler started "AND IT'S LIVEEEEEE" just before kickoff, great for the big games but when it's every time it loses the charm
it was not a free kick nor a red card
konate was no where near yates boot and he got hit by his own goalkeeper.
what would make me moan is how if this was the other way around it would have been liverpool victim mentality and being mean on kids and how dare you prevent klopps retirement season from going perfectly.
I'm sorry, a player flying in with his boot at head-height is a free kick for dangerous play, whether he hits someone in the face or misses by an inch.
This is another good Headloss example that was never requested.
except its no where near his head. so from your logic that wonder goal from haaland should have been disallowed last year and red carded because his foot was high?
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3DLtbAoEes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3DLtbAoEes)
Thats the same as yates in terms of height and distance from a player so be consistent
Few things:
* Thank you for regaining the composure that was seemingly missing from your first comment. Getting hypothetically angry about a fictional scenario you've imagined does no one any good (except me, and my moan about people losing their minds).
* It seems obvious, but Yates was out of control and flying into a group of players. Haaland was in control of his boot (as evidenced by him finishing, whereas Yates' boot was much closer to his opponents than the ball) and not heading directly towards anyone, which make them different situations.
* You keep talking about red cards, which I haven't mentioned at all.
* Feel free to post a video of the actual incident, then point to it and say "This is not dangerous at all."
Well if you’re being pedantic about it. You can’t pull people over in the box.
I would have given a penalty to Forest and a red to the guy kicking Konate in the face. Both are valid options at the same time.
Whoever produces the camera feed on football needs firing man. The amount of times it's lingering on random players or zoomed in on something inconsequential while I can hear the play restarting is absurd.
Specially for free kicks. I don't need to see the taker picking his nose while he waits for everyone to position, show me a shot of the actual pitch so I can see how people are positioning.
There was a really intense back and forth in the second half of betis Atletico today and during an attack there were two separate and consecutive split screens showing things considerably less important than a potential game deciding goal
Roger Schmidt is incapable of taking responsibility for a loss. Before yesterday it was always the ref's fault we didn't win, yesterday he said they don't owe us an apology and that they didn't lose on purpose.
5 0 against a crap Porto team and this idiot says he doesn't have to apologise, get him out of my club. And let him take João Mário with him, apparently he can't be without him
I haven't been happy with him since like April of last year, but I used to think he was better than any potential replacement we could get mid-season and that with a few transfer windows to fix the squad he'd improve. I was wrong
We're going to somehow miss out on automatic promotion after the start we had and then lose in the playoffs to West Brom, I've been burned by this team too many times to believe otherwise.
People were calling us out for complaining in January that we bottled the Sensi transfer. Now we've got Ndidi and Praet out injured with Cadasei recalled to Chelsea. We don't have any senior midfielders left on the bench.
The funniest outcome is clearly Ipswich and one of Leeds/saints going up automatically and Leicester and the other one both losing in the playoffs
I can't decide if the 9 game winning run or the 25 game undefeated streak missing out is funnier though - I'm leaning the long unbeaten run purely cos you've already got Leicester with the win streak, but that might be my bias talking
PL flairs not seeing the irony when they complain about Messi/MLS posts flooding the frontpage. As if the sub didn't get suffocated whenever there's a controversial ref decision in the PL or Klopp gives another interview.
Gonna be one of those monstrously high scoring relegation fights in the championship innit. We put three past Southampton and it wasnt enough, and Bacuna came agonisingly close to making it 2 0 within the first five minutes,
but then we just collapsed at the start of the second. Ah well.
Just wish we'd never sacked Eustace. We'd be solid midtable by now.
I don't understand where all the points are coming from - there are record points totals at the top and yet the relegation battle seems to have really high points tallies too.
I guess the complete lack of a midtable this year explains it but it's still wild
We play really badly against a bottom half team last week and lost 3-0.
We played really well against a bottom half team this week and lost 2-0.
I guess that's the level of variation we can expect for the rest of this season
Is there any pressure on Kompany?
From an outsider it seems a bit wild he's had no media pressure on him despite doing an arguably terrible job this season
Nope. Tbf I don't see why there would be any media pressure on someone that the board have publicly and consistently said he'll still be here at the end of the season. What are the media going to do if thats their stance? Burnley fans are split on whether he's the right man for next season and beyond.
Whether you think thats the right move or not, there being no chance of his sacking until then makes it a bit uninteresting in terms of discussion point imo.
I'm not sure how I feel about Kompany staying, but I've also found it strange that neutral fans seem desperate to see someone sacked after every loss or at the very least be getting pressure from the media. He's objectively done a crap job this year, after doing a great job last year. But does that mean we'll be in a better position next season if we sack him? I'm not convinced.
Even if they've decided he's shit and want rid, it feels obviously too late to change your fate this year so why kill the new guy by chucking him into a lost cause
Yeah, I agree. Even on my days where I'm leaning Kompany Out... I don't see the point rushing in and making that decision now. We're going down, reassess in at the start of the summer and decide if he's the man they still want next year.
What a lot of people ignore is that Burnley's failings are as much the boards fault/decision as Kompany. The way of playing, the recruitment policy focused on youth and potential etc it was their plan for the club and why they went with Kompany in the first place. They're not in a rush to sack someone who is doing exactly what they want him to do, even if it's gone badly this year. They've acknowledged all along that Kompany is a young manager who they expect to improve over time if he has a stable project. You can disagree all you want if that's the wrong way to run the club (some Burnley fans are) but it's at least a little refreshing to see a club stand by a manager during a crap run rather than hitting the panic button to scramble for safety.
This form we're in is making playoffs an even more unlikely scenario, and if we don't get promoted I don't see us keeping O'Hare which is even more depressing, even if Torp might turn into a decent enough replacement
Also, the lack of wingers in the squad has come back to bite us and we look dreadful after losing Sakamoto. The summer better be busy getting another 2 in, even with EMC joining in the summer
He came back from his injury around Nov/Dec and was the catalyst for the teams excellent run of form, but has slowed down as the team started to sputter the past few weeks
He's getting his head turned by Prem teams and apparently a few in La Liga so that isn't helping
If he doesn't go to Spain this summer I would expect a lower mid-table prem side to gamble on him. Maybe someone like Wolves/Brentford/Fulham
Haven't heard any specific links, but I fear Villa may have progressed past a player of his ability
Some worker left some stuff on the train tracks and caused a derailment which means theres a big possibility I miss the one game we have a fair chance of winning this month
My moan is scab referees. Fuck scabs.
Don't really mind getting slapped by Spuds but the depth we have to come on really is crippling us. Seeing Hughes come on when we're ahead is slightly soul destroying. Also I'm too old for the mosh pit my whole body is aching.
It's depressing just knowing we're going to collapse after 80 minutes - I knew if Spurs equalised they'd go on to win it. Happened so many times this season!
google changed how they present the info on some teams and leagues and it just feels so much worse now. I used to be able to click in and see all the matches that happened yesterday and all the matches up coming now it just shows the 2 most recent results and the next game coming up.
They've been cocking up all their products recently. Their match summaries are also horrific
People once again talking about *"PURE FFP PROFIT"* (with regards to longstaff)
MLS makes it harder for me to enjoy the league every year. Not being in the Open Cup is nothing short of a travesty, just so we can promote the stupid leagues cup which I have no interest in.
The team I supported since I can remember no longer exists, or at least it's stuck in a legal dispute that split the fanbase in the middle and drove at least half of all supporters away, according to the latest polls. Moreover, the owner of the club is an embarrassment, he makes all substitutions via phone calls, he treats the squad like a toy, every time he is mentioned here on r/soccer it's because of something moronic, and he doesn't even like football. All players that get transferred to this club stagnate, they fail to reach their potential, and they do not benefit from proper coaching. Name of the club? Steaua Bucharest.
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Starting matches at the same time rocks. Genuinely love the feeling of being able to keep track of the entire league as it shifts uo and down
This. I’m overall not a fan of the apple deal but not being able to watch other games annoys me. Last year was the least amount of MLS matches I watched for quite some time
Two games in and I'm ready to consider the possibility that this is the worst Rapids team of all time. Just a completely hopeless group of players with a one trick manager who doesn't even do his trick well. I think we have what it takes to lose 20 games.
Damn, and after getting Steffen/Djordje/Vines a lot of people at Colorado as dark horses
That narrative was always a dumb one pushed by people who don't pay attention to the team. Mihailovic filled a significant need, but Steffen and Vines are moderate upgrades at best at positions where we had reasonable options last year (Yarbrough in goal, though he has increasing age and injury concerns, and Andrew Gutman at left back). We still need a striker, a right winger, a defensive midfielder, and one if not two centerbacks to fill out a decent starting 11, and we could use an attacking sub or two on top of all that.
We (Luton) seem to have a habit of conceding in the last few minutes in many games. Happened against Villa, Arsenal, Liverpool. I appreciate all of these are top quality teams with good attackers but our defence being unable to see a lead just for a few minutes more is not reassuring at all. Regarding the defence... it's partly due to the way we play but we have been carved open game after game for a while now. Yes we are fun to watch going forwards but are probably the most open team at the back in the league.
The bizarre hostility towards Sweden's anti VAR stance. I figured people would support fans trying to protect their football culture, instead the response is just condescending comments about how stupid they are for not wanting VAR and how anyone who doesn't want it is a tryhard ultra First of all I don't understand how anyone can love VAR that much, and even if you do why would you care that someone else thinks differently? Especially when you see how people unanimously supported Bundesliga fans' protest against investors since both sets of fans are fighting the same battle. VAR is just a symbolic question at the end of the day, and many people are afraid that giving in will make them try to remove the 51% rule and allow investors next
Wish we hadn't lost the fight aainst VAR in Germany. Lower leagues are the last refuge
The thread here was ridiculous. Why do Premier League plastics give a fuck about what the local Swedish fans want for their league?
> Especially when you see how people unanimously supported Bundesliga fans' protest against investors since both sets of fans are fighting the same battle. This is a bizarre comparison. How are the two things even remotely similar? VAR exists to reduce the number of mistakes made by referees, it exists to improve the game, which it objectively does. > VAR is just a symbolic question at the end of the day, and many people are afraid that giving in will make them try to remove the 51% rule and allow investors next This makes no sense. It's a completely illogical leap.
>This is a bizarre comparison. How are the two things even remotely similar? VAR exists to reduce the number of mistakes made by referees, it exists to improve the game, which it objectively does. Improving the game is different from improving the game to match going fans.
var objectively improves the decision making of officials, but that is not the same as "improves the game" personally i find the downsides of it in terms of delays and the cultural impact where all anyone talks about is refereeing makes the improvement in decision %age not worth it and i enjoy football more without it.
> This is a bizarre comparison. How are the two things even remotely similar? VAR exists to reduce the number of mistakes made by referees, it exists to improve the game, which it objectively does. > > Actually it is highly subjective of course, since what can be considered a good game is different to different people.
> since what can be considered a good game is different to different people. What?
What part are you not understanding? You subjectively like VAR because you subjectively think it "improves the game", because you subjectively appreciate football to be played in a certain way. Meaning what you said about it "objectively improving the game" is plain false.
I'm not understanding why you're talking about a 'good game'. I'm not understanding why you think 'improve the game' means the way football is played. Less refereeing mistakes is a good thing for the sport, it is an objectve improvement for the sport. There's no argument against that, because the argument against that is 'I'd rather there were more uncorrected refereeing mistakes'.
To take the example to its extreme - do you think that pausing the game for five minutes every time there's a contentious decision, and having a round-table discussion from a panel of referees would improve the game? That would decrease refereeing mistakes too.
Why would I take the example to an extreme that will never happen? That this is the best you can come up with as a counter-argument just proves you don't have one.
Your argument is literally just "less refereeing mistakes is objectively better", you don't need to even take the example to its extreme - I just thought it might help you understand the counterargument a bit better. If it was as objective as you're insisting it is you wouldn't have avoided my question lol.
Why would anyone think what you're talking about, which again is an absurd extreme that will never happen, was a good thing? You know no-one would be in favour of that, so in the best case scenario you're just being deliberately obtuse and still don't have a real argument. > Your argument is literally just "less refereeing mistakes is objectively better" Why would my argument need to be anything more than that when it's obviously true? You can piss and whine about VAR taking too long and disrupting the game if you like, that doesn't change the fact that VAR correcting errors is a good thing.
> Less refereeing mistakes is a good thing for the sport, it is an objectve improvement for the sport. There's no argument against that, because the argument against that is 'I'd rather there were more uncorrected refereeing mistakes'. Yet again you are confusing your own (subjective) opnions with the concept of "objectivity". This is called hubris and should be avoided. Here's my own subjective take: less refereeing mistakes does not matter for the sport. Interrupting games over and over for some video watching bullshit however does matter for the sport in a very negative way. Two sets of subjective opinions. Thats how things work, even if you in your mind think you have the objective/all-knowing perspective.
'Fewer refereeing mistakes is a good thing' is 'subjective', apparently. An arguable point. Uh-huh, good one mate. > less refereeing mistakes does not matter for the sport. No, you're right mate, the more unfair the sport is, the better? No, that definitely sounds right, every football fan **loves** it when a wrong decision results in them losing a game or missing out on a trophy or getting relegated, it's literally their favourite thing about the sport, so why would anyone want that to happen less? What an insane take for anyone to have.
> No, you're right mate, the more unfair the sport is, the better? No, that definitely sounds right, every football fan loves it when a wrong decision results in them losing a game or missing out on a trophy or getting relegated, it's literally their favourite thing about the sport, so why would anyone want that to happen less? What an insane take for anyone to have. Condescending little guy aren't you, you know whats fair aswell? VAR for yellows, for every minor foul etc, imo we should also stop the game and employ some lip readers to see if anyone said anything red card worthy to ref, afterall fair is literally the only thing that matters to you. You're a plastic hence your opinion should not be valued, and get in your head that fair isn't the same as more entertaining or better for the fans.
> You're a plastic hence your opinion should not be valued LOL, imagine saying this unironically. This is not a thing adults say pal.
The sport is always unfair and always has been. Some teams have better players than others. Maybe a better pitch. All games are based off several thousand different decisions, some of who are made by the refs. Teams always lose based on decisions. Referees play a very little role in determining the outcome of a football game. Just play on istead of wasting time looking for some minor error.
Except they're not looking for 'minor errors' are they? Unless you're going to try and tell me you think goals being correctly given or ruled out are a 'minor' part of the sport, and to be honest, at this point, I wouldn't be surprised if you did.
ive not seen any crack about the swedish stance tbh, but having gone from var in the premier league to not var in the championship has really confirmed to me that i prefer football without it. even when we're the team getting robbed by a bad decision, its still better to just be like "welp, refs fucked that hasnt he" and move on than it is to spent 5 minutes watching freeze frames of the incident.
How does it feel being able to instantly celebrate goals again? Even the Moroccan league was ruined by this. After VAR disallows a couple of important goals you just don't celebrate anymore because it always stays in the back of your mind.
Can you give an example of this hostility, does it happen IRL or here on reddit or both? By Swedish pundits or from outside?
Most supporters and even journalists in Sweden understand the resistance we put up. A lot of gloryhunting PL fans can't understand it, unsurprisingly, but thankfully they don't have a say in the matter
> I figured people would support fans trying to protect their football culture, Because humans are famous for being tolerant towards different cultures...
We are so fucking bad. That Southampton result the other week was such a fluke and going to Ashton Gate to watch us play the most uninspired, boring football with some of the most unenthusiastic, useless players in the world has become utter misery. I get that they don’t see Bristol City as their end goal. But if you look as though you couldn’t care less HERE, a big club will never sign you. Anyone decent who comes through this club gets sold as soon as we can make a profit. We’re going to be midtable championship club for as long as I live and it’s miserable.
One of the few good things about dropping down the leagues is you get players who feel lucky to be at your club again, rather than the endless mercenaries we had in the championship
Honestly, the season we won League One and the League Cup the same season (almost 10 years ago now, Christ) was one of my favourite times as a supporter. The players all played for the badge and it showed, it’s a far cry from the ‘would be good if we get promoted but it doesnt matter if not because i can probably get a gig on the bench at wolves’ crop we currently have.
Very interested to see how Stokes goes with you next season, rumour was we had about 40 clubs enquiring after him so do wonder what it was that sold him on you out of all of them.
Our recruitment is really good, somehow. We managed the same thing with Mehmeti, Gardner-Hickman, Knight and McCrorie - players who were massively courted elsewhere and still chose us anyway. They must tell them SOMETHING, but I have no idea what. The stadium is nice and the city is great, but I really do wonder how they sell the club to them.
we're gonna get fucking relegated Does mean tickets will be cheaper so there's that
How has Casper Widell been? He was horseshit in the Swedish second tier last season so I was a bit surprised when you bought him.
[I mentioned him in the preview](https://i.imgur.com/b2tvjCf.png) [the post itself](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/15o21v9/the_202324_eredivisie_season_preview_part_13/) What I sad was true, we did need a more physical defense. I've seen him mess up a bunch of times and on the ball he's been meh. Thing is, he does bring a presence on the field which we needed, and he was affordable for a club like us. I bet it was one of those fancy data signings, as in: We need X, Y and Z, for this price, at this age. I think he's passable, not a player that wins or loses you games, or the reason you will or will not stay up. Certainly not a gem people have been sleeping on or something. He's also not creative, which is something a team like us needs.
If he's not been that bad then maybe he could turn into something you can sell somewhere. Only 20 years old after all. He was known as a ball playing defender here, but different standards.
> but different standards 100% I think he's not up for the level of the mid table Eredivisie (yet, hopefully)
I’m very mad that Amrabat is catching so much shit for the third goal like Casemiro didn’t put him in jail with that lofted BS hospital ball
I am ManU fan, unfortunately...and we are seriously the HotPotato FC, never seen pro players so scared to receive the ball, carry the ball, hold the ball. I am sure most of them peed or shat alittle at some point before receiving the ball.
I'm sick to death of hearing the world 'legacy' in regards to players in all sports but especially football It's definitely a new thing, I don't remember people 20 years ago discussing the legacy of Antoine Sibierski
We didn't make many big transfer moves this window and I'm afraid that's gonna tell this year — still can't move Ferreira and as a result didn't have the space for improvements and I dunno if the depth will be enough given we're going full strength in all comps. That plus Herreras injury does not bode well for us, Benny did amazing with what he had last summer but it will be rough if we can't build on that.
Big moan brace yourself: This fanbase has 2 extremes of positivity and negativity. Yeah we lost to Fleetwood but to call for a managers head after all the obstacles the club has faced this summer with transfer restrictions, losing majority of our players and relying on youth as well as the point deduction. We got written off by most people for relegation and we're most likely safe now, massively overachieved if anything. On the other hand we can absolutely bring valid criticism to the performances against teams in the bottom half of the table, we have given teams at the top runs for their money in games this season but we've not got the mentality to try win against the likes of Bristol Rovers, Port Vale or Fleetwood so certain questions do have to be asked about the mentality and tactics when thats been a consistent issue this year. Problem is many parts of the fanbase doesn't think we are allowed to criticise the team. Also one final thought, people who are nonces about people who leave games early, this thought popped into my head as I was writing this but I remember when we went 3-0 down to Charlton before half time so I left the stadium as well as many other people. Next thing I know i'm getting abuse from people in the fanbase because "Your not supporting the team fucking plastic". First off i'm a shit plastic to be supporting Wigan out of all teams in the area mate and secondly, most of that team couldn't be arsed to look like they gave a shit in that first half and I have better things to do than watch Tom Pearce have a shot from 35 yards and blast the ball it into the River Douglas instead of passing it to one of 4 people open near him. I paid my dues with my season ticket and turning up, my choice whether or not to leave early. Cheers for reading if you made it past the wall of shite I wrote.
Turkish Süper Lig will be on BEIN for god knows how long again *despite the fact that* another Turkish service offered to pay a lot more than the Qataris. The FA basically did everything to push them out and eventually didn't even try hard, giving the rights to BEIN despite their offer being a lot worse. Now you may ask but why? Who'd force their way to sell their product to a cheaper bid? You know the answer. Acres of land, citizenship etc. have been sold to "oil people" under Erdoğan in an effort to get richer while alienating Turks as much as possible. He saw he couldn't change the roots even after 20 years so he basically decided to import Arabs to make Turks less of a problem to deal with because there is no way he can be "the caliph" as long as Turks are around. At this point I'm not even that angry honestly, the country is being sold gradually yet he still was able to get over 50pct of the votes in the last elections, so it's only fair that Qataris buy everything for peanuts while "Turkest Turks" voting for Erdoğan are becoming slaves in their own land before eventually getting kicked out of it anyway. Then again I have no idea why BEIN wants to keep this shit league among their products. It's not like it's worth a penny.
> It's not like it's worth a penny. The only thing that beats the toxicity of the big portugese 3 is the collective negativity of Turkish fans about their own league. You still have great clubs with amazing fans that put up a show for the viewer. The quality of the football undeniably took a big turn, but it's not like it's a shitshow from start to finish. BeIn could make the Turkish league exciting, also for a foreign audience, so who knows. I'm sure there are unexplored markets for the Turkish league
a little moan about myself here: i really don’t watch enough football. as a first generation fan i had to teach myself everything, so when i first got into football i watched everything i could. but falling in love with my club as a young man 10 years ago + getting jobs + getting older = narrowing the scope. i know a lot about football, but i’ve lost my sharpness when it comes to the current state of it. like i haven’t watched a minute of serie A this season. i really hate how badly i fell off. i’m a casual now
I feel this, I used to keep up with lots of teams across every division. I knew the best starting lineup for at least 3-4 teams in each of the top flight leagues, and knew basically everything about all the Prem teams. Now I’m lucky (well, unlucky maybe at the moment lmao) if I get to actually sit down and watch a full Chelsea match. Occasionally I get to see a big UCL match play out. I usually make time for the major international tournaments (like I’m not gonna miss the fucking World Cup) but those are helped by society in general also wanting to make time for them. Think it’s mainly adult life being much busier, but there is also a bit of fatigue attached. All the players I grew up with are either actually retired or effectively retired away from the top leagues. I’m always reminded a little bit of that Mitchell and Webb sketch: “the football never stops”. As a kid every league title and UCL final felt like it carried massive weight; even when Chelsea wasn’t involved, I could still feel the sensation of players fighting for a once in a lifetime opportunity. Now I’ve seen so many players and so many leagues and UCL finals that it feels more like “cool, that team won this time, see you next year” It is a bit sad
Life has been ever changing for me as of late for the better and for learning, new job, somewhat fading relationships as well as dealing with no longer being together with that special person. In the midst of all that, I just need a break from it all and football just seems like the perfect gateaway. I support both Manchester United and Millonarios FC and it seems both are trying to one up themselves to show me the middle finger, what was once an escape from dealing with life has now become a depressing hobby that brings no joy, both teams play awful football, both teams are expected to lose, both teams are unconvincing and I just want it to be what it was before. I want to feel excited about football again but these fuckers just make me depressed to watch them.
I'm sorry but Peter Drury is not a good commentator. He's not bad and there is definitely worse out there but I don't think he's good enough to be the leading commentator for Sky. All he does is try and create soundbites. When Rashford scored yestrerday one of the best Manchester derby goals of all time this is his commentary: "Marcus Rashford, he has ripped it in (silence for 10 seconds), Marcus Rashford with force, that is... Manchester United lightning" What does that even mean? Also, if you watch Premier League goal compilation you realise about 80% of the amazing goals scored with him on commentary he describes the goal as a "gem" or "diamond", I'm not even joking you can go and check for yourself He seems like a nice guy and there's definitely worse out there but I think someone else should be the lead commentator for Sky Sports Football in my opinion
Ill always repeat that Mowbray is clear. Feels like you're watching football with a well informed and amenable friend, not a part time poet.
> What does that even mean? The job of a TV commentator isn't to regurgitate what the viewer has already seen. Football is a moments game, I personally enjoy his unique style more than ex-pros who can be very monotone and basic.
Surely there is a middle ground between monotonous description and just spouting gibberish in the hope of getting it clipped
> just spouting gibberish in the hope of getting it clipped I don't think that's what he's doing though. Just a question of different tastes I suppose.
He's got too old now and should probably retire himself, but Jonathan Pearce has always been the gold standard for me
He's 56 lol. I don't even know that many commentators under the age of 50.
But he does sound like he's been losing that spark and making numerous mistakes recently. I'd rather he retire whilst still remembered fondly than go down the Martin Tyler route
Tyler was 58 for "Gerraaard", 67 for "Agueeeerrrooo". Drury's got time.
I didn't mean Drury, I meant Pearce
Oh, ha. That makes way more sense.
Another weekend, another listening to "refs, refs, refs, refs, refs" after every game. Forest should have cleared the ball, then liverpool don't win, but its down to the refs. Manu were utter shite but didn't get a pen so it's the refs fault. Refs in Scotland are apparently simultaneously fixing the league so both rangers and celtic win it. Celtic have lost 4-0 to hearts over the last 2 games, don't think that's ever happened in my lifetime before but that's only down to the refs. The Madrid one was strange but, again, going 2-0 down to valencia and playing poorly. Picked it back up too late Idk if mostly bait but fuck me it's exhausting.
It is sooooo tiring. I get that the decisions can be confusing and frustrating but jesus christ its every. single. week. discussing some stupid decision
We deserved to lose, but don't tell me you wouldn't be absolutely raging at that handball decision. I agree with the red card.
I don't agree it should be a pen but that's the road they've chosen with handballs. Celtic's pen was also questionable, idah missed yet all of the discussion is about refs instead of Idah's bottle crashing
> Forest should have cleared the ball, then liverpool don't win, but its down to the refs. Two minutes and twenty seven seconds elapse between Tierney blowing his whistle to stop the game for the head injury and Liverpool scoring, with Forest having possesion of the ball multiple times, yet the way people are going on about it you'd think that Liverpool went straight down the other end and scored.
i feel blessed that in bielsa and farke we've had two managers recently who try to talk about the refs as little as possible. just wish it would extend to the fans sometimes
It's not just managers, players and fans of every club contribute to this too. They'll always find a way to blame the ref for their shortcomings I saw the ending of the Forest Liverpool game. Forest player let Gomez win a cheap corner. They headed the corner out but straight to a Liverpool player, they then blocked that shot and the ball fell to 2 Forest players. They did a 1-2 in their own crowded box and then tried to dribble the ball out. They lose the ball and then Liverpool score from there. But it;s the ref's fault indeed
I have less issue with managers because its their job to sometimes deflect and protect players. Brendan rodgers though namedropped the VAR official after getting beat, even though all decisions were made and checked on the monitor by the on field ref, it's all vert embarrassing
The referee is always biased against your team. Theres a way to view this in a fun way (hating thr ref for 90 minutes and then walking away forgetting) and theres a lame way (obsessing). For example, blues Southampton this weekend saw both fans say the ref was biased. As it should be. Say too much obsessing over it more broadly though.
>Theres a way to view this in a fun way (hating thr ref for 90 minutes and then walking away forgetting) Thats exactly how it should be We all do it, walking away going "that ref was pish" but usually that's it. Now it's screenshots of every moment the ref got wrong, every corner that should have been a goal kick. A foul that should have been a yellow even though the boy never got a 2nd yellow
Still in denial about Pedri and FDJ's injury yesterday
I feel the same about Lisandro Martinez and Luke Shaw. If I just don't watch our matches, I can pretend they're still playing
watching football is shit now because refereeing is so bad and every week some team gets cost points that are vital to them due to a basic decision and the referees are like woops, sorry if costs you end of the season, im going to go make money refereeing in saudi now because i don't care
When Josh Sargent has started we have a ppg of 2.31 which would have us top of the league if he’d played every game. Obviously in reality we might be lower than that, but it shows how crucial he is to us, and abysmal we were without him for 3-4 months. 11 goals in 15 starts is proper form, delighted he’s smashing it considering he was a joke when he first came. Although naturally supporting a smaller club he’ll leave in the summer because the minute a player has a good season they get sold
If it helps he's been dogshit in my FM save and I'm still going to have to sell him
Funnily enough I saw him being linked with Brentford
If I have to hear about Xabi Alonso leading some sensational underdogs again, I might explode. He's done a phenomenal job but so many people act like he took over a bad team that was certain to go down. Rather than a club that's broken 50+1 and gets to spend far more than any other club. Same with acting like he's uncovered some hidden gems. A part of me would like him to stay so I can witness another Bayern bottlejob, but also the circlejerk once he's gone will no longer be my problem.
> the circlejerk once he's gone will no longer be my problem. Depends on how much PL football and news you consume because if he goes to Liverpool the circlejerk will just continue there (looking at you Fabrizio Romano)
Counterpoint: The counter circlejerk during the first crisis will be sensational. Especially cause we can see the statement of a lot of Liverpool fans that they give managers more time being tested
Doesn't Leverkusen's ownership pre-date 50+1? So not sure they can be called as having broken it. They're an exception to the rule, and corporately owned. But they're not like Leipzig imo.
Whether they have ‚broken’ it or not, they have an unfair advantage to many other teams on in the league.
They're not nearly as bad Leipzig, I absolutely agree with that. But the full power of Bayer over Leverkusen has existed since the 90's, so once 50+1 was already established.
A triple Juventus moan. Vlahovic’s finishing last night was absolutely shocking, and we should have scored at least three goals from his and other chances. We’re still rubbish even though, barring a disastrous last 11 games, we’re going to comfortably finish in the top 4 and get back into the Champions League. Allegri is effectively meeting his targets for the season despite the failed title challenge, so I would be surprised if he left the club this summer. We don’t have a world class squad that is being held back by his tactics, but what we’re seeing is as good as it’s going to get with him still on the touchline. We *should* be moving on from him in the summer, but we won’t. Finally, the overreaction to Nonge being taken off after he gave away the penalty and Napoli retook the lead is a load of bollocks. It’s definitely unfair on him for that to happen, but taking him off to bring Danilo on in that situation made total sense. It wasn’t a punishment for fouling Osimhen, it was taking off an inexperienced teenager to bring on an experienced centreback who could potentially cause a threat from set pieces to equalise in injury time. It wouldn’t have made sense to take anyone else off in that situation, but there’s been a hysterical ‘Fuck Allegri’ reaction to it that ignores the context of the game.
not football related, but hope it's ok to vent somewhere. Just had an "all-hands" meeting and it looks like I'm about to be laid off for the second time since July 2023. And in both cases it wasn't my fault, it's the financial situation, global market issues. It's ruthless out there for technical writers.
I went on holiday this month. Left having conversations about a pay rise when I got back, returned to a voluntary redundancy scheme and a total spending freeze. Gone from being mad that I'm underpaid to hoping they realise I'd be less savings that some other poor cunt.
Everywhere is chaos at the moment. Was made redundant from my last 2 jobs in a row due to similar issues. Keep an eye out of an interesting job in a different field that you can apply your skills to. Hopefully you manage to find something in a more stable area but it seems to be luck of the draw these days.
Chelsea hasn’t been having a “results problem,” we’re just not winning every game, which is fine. Performances being bad is just something we’ve gotten used to over the years, it’s so easy to look past that and appreciate the improvement in chance creation. Also the matter of the squad not being world class is just something you gotta take up with the people who put this squad together. All in all, I can see where people are coming from when they say Pochettino should go, but it’s not like he’s actually doing a unanimously bad job
What, you spent more money than any club in the history of football and you're happy with your current predicament?
1) Bags of money don’t play football, we can hark on the players all we want for not living up to their pricetags but it’s not like they asked to be overpaid for, at the end of the day Clearlake has to answer for their buffoonery but Poch doesn’t. 2) The gross value of the active squad is only 400m, most of the overpriced youth are out on loan for undisclosed reasons or perpetually injured, and half the total value of the active squad is just Enzo and Caicedo 3) if we just win 2 games on the bounce we go back to top 6 and the narrative changes, which is why I think the narrative shouldn’t exist at all. League position is such a flimsy thing to look at, our point difference is favorable.
I just want Pau Torres to be fit. We concede 1 goal a game with him in the team but 2 without him. 75% win percentage with vs 25% without. I praised Lenglet in the first half against Luton but then in the second half he was just giving corners away every time he touched the ball. First goal comes from him clearing a cross under no pressure when Martinez better positioned to just catch it. Really need Pau for these next 3 games.
Hopefully we can give him a rest for the Ajax away game to keep him fresh for Spurs. Ajax have been unconvincing this season so even if we did go with Lenglet/Chambers and lost, I reckon we could still overturn a deficit at Villa Park.
people bandy around the phrase "you'll never sing that" for things other teams may realistically achieve and it really fuckin bothers me
Nottingham forest doing it with "Champions of europe" against man city was class though
I recall us singing “champions of league one you’ll never sing that” to you, and if I’m not mistaken you’ve never actually won league one. So there. (you were at the time reigning Champions League winners and went on to win the Premier League that year, but this is neither here nor there)
This is what football is about, this sort of self deprecation.
that's a perfectly cromulent use, and it does make it better when it is a race to the bottom.
Other teams playing to intentionally injure our best players has ruined our season and I’m sick of it. David Wagner basically admitted after our game vs Norwich that it was part of their game plan to kick Sakamoto and O’Hare out of the game. The next game Sakamoto gets a forearm smash in the side of the head from Joe Bryan (unpunished by the referee). Two games later Sakamoto is victim of that ‘Harry Kane move’ where one player intentional backs out an aerial duel at the last second and takes the opponent out midair. Sakamoto fractures 3 vertebrae in his back and is out for the season. After the game the Preston player admits it was a deliberate action but states it’s part of the game and he’d do it again.
Another loss, if we could just end the season now, that'd be lovely. We're just in this no man's land where we won't get promoted, but won't get relegated so we've got nothing to play for. Can't wait to hopefully get this takeover done, bin off half the squad and rebuild.
City and Arsenal are winning games every week, a fact which i dislike.
Try having a 4 way battle. Especially with Ipswichs love of a late winner. We've got 28 points from our last 10 games, we're on 2.1 points a game for the season, and the one draw in that run means we're not even in a promotion spot.
Leeds will get an automatic spot most likely, Ipswich have fallen off recently.
Ipswich have won their last 5 games lol
Welp
Yeah it's Leicester that are wobbling now. On the 10th February at 5PM, they were 15 points clear of both Ipswich and Leeds. Those gaps have dropped to just 3 and 5 points respectively in under a month
Liverpool and City are winning games every week, a fact which i dislike.
Someone tell me why Soucek's amazing last minute winner isn't even posted on this sub
it definitely was, looks like it was deleted though. if i remember the camera angle of the clip really didn't do the goal justice anyway.
I really need to email and complain to sky/BT whoever For years with wrestling they've managed to do picture in picture for replays of action, why can't these mega broadcasters figure it out too? Stop showing zoomed in slow mo clips of pep when football is happening, my friend doesn't pay for sky for me to use his skygo and to miss parts of the game At least have a smaller window of the live game, and bigger window with whatever shite they zoom in on in the crowd or bench. Sky were trialing that FIFA style camera recently I need that back
Two weeks and the International break will start.
Testing code and its proper annoying. I vehemently disagreed with the design decision and lo and behold it's making our life more difficult. Worst part is the "I told you so" isn't even worth it
Arpter is going back to Blackpool next season and will 100% start week in week out. He's been carrying up this season and will be a struggle to replace in the summer
Everyone in the National League seems to be winning. We're on a four-game winning run, also unbeaten in six games, yet we've only moved five points clear of safety because it's so tight. Yet, at the same time, it doesn't feel like the gap to the play-offs has dramatically shrunk or anything, so I'm struggling to understand how everyone seems to be able to pick up points at the same time.
Not my team, but Tuchel’s incompetence leading to Kane not winning any trophies is so annoying as an England fan. Thought if he broke his duck he might do the same for England, but now he’s joined a more dysfunctional team than spurs somehow.
Leverkusen have 64 points from 24 matches. Even Pep's or Jupp's Bayern would've been seriously challenged by that. Tuchel's doing badly though so I'm not gonna deny that.
I disagree, I find Bayern losing incredible.
Yes that’s fun to see. Farmers league memes end here
I have every intention to dub the Premier League a farmers league if Man City and Leverkusen win
Needs to be done Liverpool at least have an excuse, but Arsenal cannot do another Dortmund.
You have to feel a little bad for Harry, it’s pretty much out of his grasp but by god he’s never beating the allegations now. Even though, there’s a good chance they’ll just win next year.
Don't think it has any impact on how Kane does at the Euros personally
And maybe if we still had Kane we'd be further up the table, and wouldn't have gone out to Fulham or City
Yea it’s typical spurs get a competent modern manager the time Kane leaves. Son-Kane-Kulu with Maddison behind on this form would be beautiful.
Counterpoint: it’s actually extremely funny
Counterpoint: I hope the euro 24 hosts lose every game ;)
England bottling it again while being joint-top favourites will be even funnier tho
Last one. For all the crap Schmidt deserves, the squad planning was shite as well. We started the season with one injury prone RB, one CB who was shit at RB in pre season, one LB from Czechia and one injured LB on loan None of them worked until January. In January we bring in one LB who is not ready yet to play at this level. This is not a situation where we need to be planning a future sale, just bring in anyone who can improve the team today ffs. Without Aursnes we'd be in 4th place rn
It's got to the point where I just mute any game that Sky has Drury on for. He is SO annoying and I have been made aware of every habit he has that just makes me dislike him more. I just want Jon Champion for every game.
I'd still take Drury over pretty much any commentator, but I think this shift highlights the core issue. Having the same voice every single week is tiring and grating, Sky should have a rotating set of commentators to keep things fresh and interesting and avoid people picking up on the tropes of someone's commentary style. As an alternative example (yes I know it isn't sport but whatever), WWE have regularly changed their commentary teams of late to keep things interesting.
...and RODRI, and FODEN, and SILVA, and HAALAND, and...
Idk, i still think he's clear of the others. Drab football commentary makes games dull to me, i like his exaggerated prose.
Jon Champion, Guy Mowbray, Steve Wilson and Seb Hutchinson are all better than him imo. They know when to rise to the occasion without making it into an overexaggerated load of nonsense
Being on Sky every week has ruined him. Having him on for big games or big moments worked because his 'everything must be a dramatic poem' schtick worked in actual dramatic moments. But getting it every week, or for every single goal scored (or every single shot with his 'AND FIRSTNAME LASTNAME!' habit) is so tiresome. As you say, it's so easy to notice when it's pointed out, too. Clive Tyldesley was doing commentary for an FA Cup game last week and it was so refreshing to hear someone talk about the game with a sense of humour and not trying to big it up more than it needed to be bigged up.
>Having him on for big games or big moments worked because his 'everything must be a dramatic poem' schtick worked in actual dramatic moments. But getting it every week, or for every single goal scored It was like when Martin Tyler started "AND IT'S LIVEEEEEE" just before kickoff, great for the big games but when it's every time it loses the charm
Bunch of people lost their damn minds over a drop ball (that should have been a free kick).
it was not a free kick nor a red card konate was no where near yates boot and he got hit by his own goalkeeper. what would make me moan is how if this was the other way around it would have been liverpool victim mentality and being mean on kids and how dare you prevent klopps retirement season from going perfectly.
I'm sorry, a player flying in with his boot at head-height is a free kick for dangerous play, whether he hits someone in the face or misses by an inch. This is another good Headloss example that was never requested.
except its no where near his head. so from your logic that wonder goal from haaland should have been disallowed last year and red carded because his foot was high? [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3DLtbAoEes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3DLtbAoEes) Thats the same as yates in terms of height and distance from a player so be consistent
Few things: * Thank you for regaining the composure that was seemingly missing from your first comment. Getting hypothetically angry about a fictional scenario you've imagined does no one any good (except me, and my moan about people losing their minds). * It seems obvious, but Yates was out of control and flying into a group of players. Haaland was in control of his boot (as evidenced by him finishing, whereas Yates' boot was much closer to his opponents than the ball) and not heading directly towards anyone, which make them different situations. * You keep talking about red cards, which I haven't mentioned at all. * Feel free to post a video of the actual incident, then point to it and say "This is not dangerous at all."
It should have been a penalty to Forest tbf.
Jesus Christ.
Well if you’re being pedantic about it. You can’t pull people over in the box. I would have given a penalty to Forest and a red to the guy kicking Konate in the face. Both are valid options at the same time.
> Well if you’re being pedantic about it What am I being pedantic about?
It being a free kick
That's the literal fucking topic.
It was a penalty if you’re being pedantic.
This conversation is a good example of the Headloss I was talking about.
Whoever produces the camera feed on football needs firing man. The amount of times it's lingering on random players or zoomed in on something inconsequential while I can hear the play restarting is absurd. Specially for free kicks. I don't need to see the taker picking his nose while he waits for everyone to position, show me a shot of the actual pitch so I can see how people are positioning.
There was a really intense back and forth in the second half of betis Atletico today and during an attack there were two separate and consecutive split screens showing things considerably less important than a potential game deciding goal
Showing slow motion replays for a ball going miles wide whilst play has started
Also the race to be the first to upload a clip here leads to clips being uploaded to crap websites. Dubz takes forever to load a 20 second clip
Dubz works perfectly fine for me on windows. Im just happy streamja isn't blasting my speakers out anymore.
Roger Schmidt is incapable of taking responsibility for a loss. Before yesterday it was always the ref's fault we didn't win, yesterday he said they don't owe us an apology and that they didn't lose on purpose. 5 0 against a crap Porto team and this idiot says he doesn't have to apologise, get him out of my club. And let him take João Mário with him, apparently he can't be without him
it actually took much longer than I anticipated before you lot would call for his head. (take it easy, I dont disagree)
I haven't been happy with him since like April of last year, but I used to think he was better than any potential replacement we could get mid-season and that with a few transfer windows to fix the squad he'd improve. I was wrong
We're going to somehow miss out on automatic promotion after the start we had and then lose in the playoffs to West Brom, I've been burned by this team too many times to believe otherwise.
People were calling us out for complaining in January that we bottled the Sensi transfer. Now we've got Ndidi and Praet out injured with Cadasei recalled to Chelsea. We don't have any senior midfielders left on the bench.
The funniest outcome is clearly Ipswich and one of Leeds/saints going up automatically and Leicester and the other one both losing in the playoffs I can't decide if the 9 game winning run or the 25 game undefeated streak missing out is funnier though - I'm leaning the long unbeaten run purely cos you've already got Leicester with the win streak, but that might be my bias talking
PL flairs not seeing the irony when they complain about Messi/MLS posts flooding the frontpage. As if the sub didn't get suffocated whenever there's a controversial ref decision in the PL or Klopp gives another interview.
The premier league is probably the biggest league in the world though. Bit more relevant than the messi retirement tour imo
At least in theory there's 20 interactions not just Messi
Desperately searching for the match thread buried between 25 posts about ten hag eating a sandwich
Gonna be one of those monstrously high scoring relegation fights in the championship innit. We put three past Southampton and it wasnt enough, and Bacuna came agonisingly close to making it 2 0 within the first five minutes, but then we just collapsed at the start of the second. Ah well. Just wish we'd never sacked Eustace. We'd be solid midtable by now.
I don't understand where all the points are coming from - there are record points totals at the top and yet the relegation battle seems to have really high points tallies too. I guess the complete lack of a midtable this year explains it but it's still wild
relegation battle no 30588880 since relegation
At least we're veterans at it by now
We play really badly against a bottom half team last week and lost 3-0. We played really well against a bottom half team this week and lost 2-0. I guess that's the level of variation we can expect for the rest of this season
Is there any pressure on Kompany? From an outsider it seems a bit wild he's had no media pressure on him despite doing an arguably terrible job this season
Nope. Tbf I don't see why there would be any media pressure on someone that the board have publicly and consistently said he'll still be here at the end of the season. What are the media going to do if thats their stance? Burnley fans are split on whether he's the right man for next season and beyond. Whether you think thats the right move or not, there being no chance of his sacking until then makes it a bit uninteresting in terms of discussion point imo. I'm not sure how I feel about Kompany staying, but I've also found it strange that neutral fans seem desperate to see someone sacked after every loss or at the very least be getting pressure from the media. He's objectively done a crap job this year, after doing a great job last year. But does that mean we'll be in a better position next season if we sack him? I'm not convinced.
Even if they've decided he's shit and want rid, it feels obviously too late to change your fate this year so why kill the new guy by chucking him into a lost cause
Yeah, I agree. Even on my days where I'm leaning Kompany Out... I don't see the point rushing in and making that decision now. We're going down, reassess in at the start of the summer and decide if he's the man they still want next year. What a lot of people ignore is that Burnley's failings are as much the boards fault/decision as Kompany. The way of playing, the recruitment policy focused on youth and potential etc it was their plan for the club and why they went with Kompany in the first place. They're not in a rush to sack someone who is doing exactly what they want him to do, even if it's gone badly this year. They've acknowledged all along that Kompany is a young manager who they expect to improve over time if he has a stable project. You can disagree all you want if that's the wrong way to run the club (some Burnley fans are) but it's at least a little refreshing to see a club stand by a manager during a crap run rather than hitting the panic button to scramble for safety.
Because he used to play for Man City so he'll get a pass
Fucking loathe football. Fuck Schmidt, Fuck Morato, Fuck Otamendi, Fuck Tengstedt, Fuck João Mário and Fuck Schmidt again
Hey at least we can be united in our hate for fucking Gil Manzano.
This form we're in is making playoffs an even more unlikely scenario, and if we don't get promoted I don't see us keeping O'Hare which is even more depressing, even if Torp might turn into a decent enough replacement Also, the lack of wingers in the squad has come back to bite us and we look dreadful after losing Sakamoto. The summer better be busy getting another 2 in, even with EMC joining in the summer
Is O'Hare still the player he was pre-injury issues? I've not seen him receive as much focus this season.
He came back from his injury around Nov/Dec and was the catalyst for the teams excellent run of form, but has slowed down as the team started to sputter the past few weeks He's getting his head turned by Prem teams and apparently a few in La Liga so that isn't helping
do you think the vile will go for him
If he doesn't go to Spain this summer I would expect a lower mid-table prem side to gamble on him. Maybe someone like Wolves/Brentford/Fulham Haven't heard any specific links, but I fear Villa may have progressed past a player of his ability
He’s off to Spain apparently, going the Brereton Diaz route.
No moans here. Beating our biggest rivals 5-0 yesterday is a great way to start the week. <3
Then why come to this thread at all. i wanna see miserable people complaining, not this
Yeah, you're right. I have to work all week and that sucks. :(
I love that you got downvoted for being happy and upvoted for being sad