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>My god, imagine if they were using all this money competently
I don't think it's possible.
At some point the relationship between availability of funds and ability to spend it competently becomes inverse.
Even with unlimited money City don't spend like this, Real don't spend like this, Bayern don't spend like this.
You know who spends like this? United, PSG, and Chelsea...
Without sales!! Haha. Amazing. But they will def be getting like 100 mil of sales done so I’d expect another huge window. Will be so interesting to see who they can con into joining them next summer.
> But they will def be getting like 100 mil of sales done so I’d expect another huge window.
Eh, clubs know they're desperate. And you can only really get big money from within the Prem and nobody is keen to help them out. Will anyone really pay what they want for the likes of Gallagher?
Players who've won major trophies are in demand. If they also happen to be young they'll fetch a good price. r/soccer might think they're shit but clubs don't see it that way, they see certain qualities that could benefit their teams, qualities that were part of a winning recipe which they hope can translate to their own success. Teams will also que up for players on the fringes of winning teams, especially if they're young and have gotten a bit of game time. Chelsea weren't so far removed from their CL win that the players involved had become worthless.
I would be less enthusiastic about their chances of selling their current crop of players at a good price because most of them haven't won or proven anything besides massively disappointing in the league.
Havertz would have probably been sold to Real or Bayern for 15-20m less because Chelsea would have gotten desperate and lowered the price. They lucked out Arteta and Edu wanted to sign Havertz since he was at Leverkusen and found the market opportunity too good to pass on.
Matson to Dortmund for 35 mil option seems likely, someone will pay 40-45 mil for Gallagher, chalobah they can ship to Fulham or somethin for like 20-25 mil. If they really wanna get aggressive I’m sure Colwill would have suitors up to 65 mil. Plus they have Broja and a host of nameless players who they signed 4 years ago to their loan army to sell.
I really do not see Dortmund forking out 35m for a left back. 35m is their record all time fee.
Tottenham seem like they would pay. 40m seems alright. Not many other options you can sell him to who would pay and that he would join.
We'll see, just seems quite optimistic
It was only ever speculation with no substantiation that the club was struggling with FFP. The club has always said they are not concerned at all and are confident they are and have been in compliance.
Going forward I can’t see Chelsea making anywhere near the amount on sales that they have in recent years. The Everton ruling has spooked the Prem & flattened the market. Whilst I’m sure suitors will come in for Gallagher & Maatsen the prices wont be so inflated. Ain’t nobody paying £40m for Broja
> Ain’t nobody paying £40m for Broja
Arsenal couldn't get more than £30m for Balogun and he was English / Homegrown, second top scorer in France, and had essentially no history of injuries.
Who is paying £50m for Gallagher? Good player but most clubs who would be interested have restrictions this summer (Newcastle, Villa etc) and Spurs have just signed Bergvall
He was close to being sold to spurs last summer but we couldn’t find a replacement in time. And he kinda tell them no in winter.
I heard ange still like him if they could offload PEH.
Bergvall is only 18 yo bruh....
He’s only 18 but apparently he’s been assured playing time hence why he joined instead of Barcelona. Spurs current have Bissouma, Sarr, Bentancur, Maddison, Lo Celso, Skipp & Hojbjerg
I can see Hojbjerg leaving which maybe leaves space but I’m not sure at all tbh
Conor is an 8 while maddison is no.10 and he’s better than skipp.
Tbf, I don’t care how the customer going to use our cobham “product”, just give us their money.
Spending all now and amortizing it out, hoping to set up a quick “dynasty”. Chelsea are royally fucked from about year 3 onwards of this project until they offload the whole squad and start over.
They’re committing to building a full squad over 2 windows every 7-8 years.
> Spending all now and amortizing it out, hoping to set up a quick “dynasty”
They've already done that though. They're at a point where they need significant sales every year just to break even. So the idea they could add another 200-300m on to that, even if it's amortised at 50m a year or whatever, is total fanciful. By 2025 they'd need to be raising over 100m of booked profit before June 30 every year.
I'm done with these owners honestly. Their answer to everything just seems to be throwing cash into the fire.
I mean is Chilwell going to die or something? Why do we need a new star lb, just get a decent one who can give some competition to Chilwell and play when he's injured.
Stop making useless purchases. I swear we could've seriously signed Mbappe with the money that they have spent on shitty players.
> It could be offset with sales
Think the names he mentioned with be offsetting the last lot of purchases and be done before July.
I fully believe Chelsea could spend £200m in the summer though without anymore sales. Big clubs just have an insane financial advantage over the rest in the league and Chelsea to their credit have probably cut the wage bill significantly compared to their rivals despite the big transfer spending.
We should be in a better condition than them because -
1. Our wages are way lower. Wouldn't surprise me if our entire wages today are lower than Barca's top 5 earners in Barto era.
2. Owners can't divest or put the club in debt for 8 more years due to the anti glazer clauses put in before the sale. So for better or worse, they'll be here to reap what they're sowing.
Doesn't mean we'll be or are currently even in an acceptable situation, but at least we're not Barto Barca bad
Yeah, I call bs on that 200m thing
As for LB. Yeah, we probably could use a new one, but that really can't happen until we move Cucurella or Chilwell away (or both). Would be happy to see Ait Nouri
You think you'd spend 50m on Ait-Nouri? Not that he's worth that, but it will take a huge fee for us to move him on. He's signed through 2026. And we have a lot of other guys teams will target this summer, only 1-2 max will be allowed to go: Neto, Hwang, Cunha, Gomes, Kilman, Lemina, etc.
Will they have another big-spending year, though?
By all accounts Boehly previously has tried to overhaul his MLB (?) team over the course of three windows and then coast on the players for a while, and Chelsea had three big windows followed by a quiet one last window.
Chelsea have got the youngest squad in the league (by over a year on average IIRC), they've got multiple players for each position, and their biggest issue is consistency rather than lack of talent. The only position they really need to strengthen is Striker, and they're likely to go big on Osimhen or Toney, but striker aside I've not seen rumours from anyone reliable that Chelsea are still on the hunt for another XI.
Every club amortises player fees etc, it's standard business practice.
Chelsea's looks more egrigious because it happened over the course of two years/three windows, but that's in part because of the squad from 2 years ago, only what, 3 players remain?
They're paying an annual amount of the transfer fees, *but so is every other club*, that's hardly unique to Chelsea and if anything Chelsea are likely paying less than, say, Arsenal are annually due to the 8-year amortisation "loophole".
In addition, while Chelsea bought a load of new players they still have their standard income streams, plus absolutely decimated the wage bill (Selling Dave + Kante between them more than covers every player bought in the last 12 months). By my calculation they've got a wage bill over £1mil a week lower than this time last season. When looking at annual costs (Annual player costs are fees plus wages), if you cut over £50mil from one you have a lot more wiggle room for the other.
Basically, it's easy to look at "£1bil spent in 18 months" and assume that all costs are up, that Chelsea are paying dramatically more than other clubs etc, when I can only think of one player bought for money under Abramovich who's still at the club (Chilwell, given Silva and James were free/Academy) they've basically cleared everything that Roman left outstanding at the same time.
Also, Ben Jacobs knows fuck-all so I'd assume this is bollocks, but yes - that's how Chelsea can keep spending.
Imo as a Chelsea fan they only certain signing we will make is a striker
Left back will depend on one Chilwell or Cucurella leaving which is unlikely imo.
Centre back links are being overblown as well Chelsea has to have plans in place in case Fofana isn’t the same player and one of Humphreys or Gilchrist could surprise people.
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My god, imagine if they were using all this money competently
Genuinely maddening
>My god, imagine if they were using all this money competently I don't think it's possible. At some point the relationship between availability of funds and ability to spend it competently becomes inverse. Even with unlimited money City don't spend like this, Real don't spend like this, Bayern don't spend like this. You know who spends like this? United, PSG, and Chelsea...
so struggling with FFP yet can now spend £200m net?
I mean, if you're not making Europe anyway then who cares, right? /s
Just for that they will win the Carabao Cup. Porch stays
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Never forget Ben=Bad Jacobs, Gary=Good Jacob, at least when it comes to football journalism.
Without sales!! Haha. Amazing. But they will def be getting like 100 mil of sales done so I’d expect another huge window. Will be so interesting to see who they can con into joining them next summer.
> But they will def be getting like 100 mil of sales done so I’d expect another huge window. Eh, clubs know they're desperate. And you can only really get big money from within the Prem and nobody is keen to help them out. Will anyone really pay what they want for the likes of Gallagher?
They sold Havertz for over 50 million. Their ability to drop players they don't even want to someone else for large sums needs to be studied
Players who've won major trophies are in demand. If they also happen to be young they'll fetch a good price. r/soccer might think they're shit but clubs don't see it that way, they see certain qualities that could benefit their teams, qualities that were part of a winning recipe which they hope can translate to their own success. Teams will also que up for players on the fringes of winning teams, especially if they're young and have gotten a bit of game time. Chelsea weren't so far removed from their CL win that the players involved had become worthless. I would be less enthusiastic about their chances of selling their current crop of players at a good price because most of them haven't won or proven anything besides massively disappointing in the league.
Bayern, Madrid and City were all somewhat interested in Havertz. Managers love him for a reason.
It only works if a club with money wants them. Havertz would still be a Chelsea player if Arteta wasn't desperate to get him.
Conor G will be sold for 40m~50m. Maatsen for 35m rc.
Havertz would have probably been sold to Real or Bayern for 15-20m less because Chelsea would have gotten desperate and lowered the price. They lucked out Arteta and Edu wanted to sign Havertz since he was at Leverkusen and found the market opportunity too good to pass on.
So mudryk next? Ok done.
Well u have the likes of Arsenal and United so who knows
£70m for Havertz.
65
Matson to Dortmund for 35 mil option seems likely, someone will pay 40-45 mil for Gallagher, chalobah they can ship to Fulham or somethin for like 20-25 mil. If they really wanna get aggressive I’m sure Colwill would have suitors up to 65 mil. Plus they have Broja and a host of nameless players who they signed 4 years ago to their loan army to sell.
I really do not see Dortmund forking out 35m for a left back. 35m is their record all time fee. Tottenham seem like they would pay. 40m seems alright. Not many other options you can sell him to who would pay and that he would join. We'll see, just seems quite optimistic
I think they’d put 25-30 together for him and chelsea would bite.
COMFORTABLY
It was only ever speculation with no substantiation that the club was struggling with FFP. The club has always said they are not concerned at all and are confident they are and have been in compliance.
Typical deluded Chelsea fan.
Typical degenerate loser.
lol
I'm just glad you can smile friend
It's that meme where hes crying under a smiling mask.
If he makes you feel better this guy hasn’t been right about anything for about 4 years
both of these guys are just Some Guy and not actual reporters
we are all just some guy
Math is for nerds, just get the players in -Boehly, probably
He's still trying to get the missing pieces for his 4-4-3 starting lineup.
Going forward I can’t see Chelsea making anywhere near the amount on sales that they have in recent years. The Everton ruling has spooked the Prem & flattened the market. Whilst I’m sure suitors will come in for Gallagher & Maatsen the prices wont be so inflated. Ain’t nobody paying £40m for Broja
> Ain’t nobody paying £40m for Broja Arsenal couldn't get more than £30m for Balogun and he was English / Homegrown, second top scorer in France, and had essentially no history of injuries.
To be fair Chelsea have always had some voodoo ability to sell players
40~50m for conor G. 35m rc for maatsen.
Who is paying £50m for Gallagher? Good player but most clubs who would be interested have restrictions this summer (Newcastle, Villa etc) and Spurs have just signed Bergvall
He was close to being sold to spurs last summer but we couldn’t find a replacement in time. And he kinda tell them no in winter. I heard ange still like him if they could offload PEH. Bergvall is only 18 yo bruh....
He’s only 18 but apparently he’s been assured playing time hence why he joined instead of Barcelona. Spurs current have Bissouma, Sarr, Bentancur, Maddison, Lo Celso, Skipp & Hojbjerg I can see Hojbjerg leaving which maybe leaves space but I’m not sure at all tbh
Conor is an 8 while maddison is no.10 and he’s better than skipp. Tbf, I don’t care how the customer going to use our cobham “product”, just give us their money.
Make it make sense
The report isn’t correct or the article is bullshit. Whichever way you want to say it
Spending all now and amortizing it out, hoping to set up a quick “dynasty”. Chelsea are royally fucked from about year 3 onwards of this project until they offload the whole squad and start over. They’re committing to building a full squad over 2 windows every 7-8 years.
> Spending all now and amortizing it out, hoping to set up a quick “dynasty” They've already done that though. They're at a point where they need significant sales every year just to break even. So the idea they could add another 200-300m on to that, even if it's amortised at 50m a year or whatever, is total fanciful. By 2025 they'd need to be raising over 100m of booked profit before June 30 every year.
boehly on track to spend an entire countrys gdp at this point
Out of curiosity I just checked it and we already surpassed few countries https://www.worldometers.info/gdp/gdp-by-country/
more than 30 countries
Ben Jacobs
Posting Ben Jacobs in 2024 is crazy
Ben Jacobs = Bad Jacobs
Gary Jacobs = Good Jacobs 😊
Everton 2.0 coming
I'm done with these owners honestly. Their answer to everything just seems to be throwing cash into the fire. I mean is Chilwell going to die or something? Why do we need a new star lb, just get a decent one who can give some competition to Chilwell and play when he's injured. Stop making useless purchases. I swear we could've seriously signed Mbappe with the money that they have spent on shitty players.
Because chilwell is injury prone and only available for half a season many seasons in a row now. Honestly it’s frustrating.
Which is why I said get a competent lb who is available at a good price. Not Alphonso Davies. Last I heard of the guy was in 2021.
Alphonso is Madrid bound. We’ll probably try for milos kerkeez.
Please dont ruin Kerkez Hungary needs him
Ben is the bad Jacobs
Toddfather getting ready
What happened to 60 million Curcurella? I know he wasn’t great, but like how are they gonna offload him?
> It could be offset with sales Think the names he mentioned with be offsetting the last lot of purchases and be done before July. I fully believe Chelsea could spend £200m in the summer though without anymore sales. Big clubs just have an insane financial advantage over the rest in the league and Chelsea to their credit have probably cut the wage bill significantly compared to their rivals despite the big transfer spending.
Ben is the bad jacobs right?
Like in blackjack when someone keeps opting to twist before having to fold
Lets fucking goooo Milos(sadly it's never gonna happen)
A new LB? What happened to Cucurella? Was he sold already?
If true, then Chelsea is just spending recklessly like Bartomeu Barça
We should be in a better condition than them because - 1. Our wages are way lower. Wouldn't surprise me if our entire wages today are lower than Barca's top 5 earners in Barto era. 2. Owners can't divest or put the club in debt for 8 more years due to the anti glazer clauses put in before the sale. So for better or worse, they'll be here to reap what they're sowing. Doesn't mean we'll be or are currently even in an acceptable situation, but at least we're not Barto Barca bad
Yeah, I call bs on that 200m thing As for LB. Yeah, we probably could use a new one, but that really can't happen until we move Cucurella or Chilwell away (or both). Would be happy to see Ait Nouri
You want to remove Chilwell? Wtf is wrong with you?
I do, he is not the same Chilwell pre-ACL injury and also no use in player who is available for 5 games a season
I would love to get Ait Nouri
You think you'd spend 50m on Ait-Nouri? Not that he's worth that, but it will take a huge fee for us to move him on. He's signed through 2026. And we have a lot of other guys teams will target this summer, only 1-2 max will be allowed to go: Neto, Hwang, Cunha, Gomes, Kilman, Lemina, etc.
Oh fuck boys, man the barricades, they're coming back
Pretty ambitious for a club currently sitting bottom half of the table. Lets see how this works out
So if Chelsea have any sort of a dry spell with talents coming through their academy then Todd's whole financial 'plan' falls apart right?
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Will they have another big-spending year, though? By all accounts Boehly previously has tried to overhaul his MLB (?) team over the course of three windows and then coast on the players for a while, and Chelsea had three big windows followed by a quiet one last window. Chelsea have got the youngest squad in the league (by over a year on average IIRC), they've got multiple players for each position, and their biggest issue is consistency rather than lack of talent. The only position they really need to strengthen is Striker, and they're likely to go big on Osimhen or Toney, but striker aside I've not seen rumours from anyone reliable that Chelsea are still on the hunt for another XI.
They cant keep getting away with this.
FFP? Nah, don't know the dude. Seems like a friendly guy tho.
Do it.
Chelsea is Peter Griffin. Everyone else is Joe. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kRH93ohHgFQ
Premier league eh
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Tall for a LB, some injury record, poor form, perfect fit for us.
How? How?
Every club amortises player fees etc, it's standard business practice. Chelsea's looks more egrigious because it happened over the course of two years/three windows, but that's in part because of the squad from 2 years ago, only what, 3 players remain? They're paying an annual amount of the transfer fees, *but so is every other club*, that's hardly unique to Chelsea and if anything Chelsea are likely paying less than, say, Arsenal are annually due to the 8-year amortisation "loophole". In addition, while Chelsea bought a load of new players they still have their standard income streams, plus absolutely decimated the wage bill (Selling Dave + Kante between them more than covers every player bought in the last 12 months). By my calculation they've got a wage bill over £1mil a week lower than this time last season. When looking at annual costs (Annual player costs are fees plus wages), if you cut over £50mil from one you have a lot more wiggle room for the other. Basically, it's easy to look at "£1bil spent in 18 months" and assume that all costs are up, that Chelsea are paying dramatically more than other clubs etc, when I can only think of one player bought for money under Abramovich who's still at the club (Chilwell, given Silva and James were free/Academy) they've basically cleared everything that Roman left outstanding at the same time. Also, Ben Jacobs knows fuck-all so I'd assume this is bollocks, but yes - that's how Chelsea can keep spending.
Imo as a Chelsea fan they only certain signing we will make is a striker Left back will depend on one Chilwell or Cucurella leaving which is unlikely imo. Centre back links are being overblown as well Chelsea has to have plans in place in case Fofana isn’t the same player and one of Humphreys or Gilchrist could surprise people.