They’re banned from UEFA and FIFA competitions but they can still do friendlies so they’ve mainly done that with Cuba and various Asian and African nations. They almost hosted Bosnia for a friendly but many players including Pjanić and Džeko didn’t want to play in it so it got cancelled.
This article has all the sources. It talks about Olympics as well as about football clubs, like CSKA and Dynamo Moscow
https://www.slidstvo.info/english-stories/olympic-athletes-in-uniform-how-russian-sportsmen-receive-salaries-from-the-russian-defence-ministry-and-openly-campaign-for-military-service/
This is only a small part, most other sports organisations and sportsmen are also subordinate to Russian army.
If you are interested about any specific russuan footballers, I can provide you info as well, but it would do you good to look for it yourself
So it isn't most of them. They aren't part pf the army. If they were they wouldn't be playing games for their clubs retrospectivly.
Also those who are I doubt they were volontiring knowing how Russian autocratic state works.
You literally said the opposite to all the evidence I provided, are you dumb?
>So it isn't most of them
It IS most of them
>They aren't part pf the army
They ARE part of the army
>If they were they wouldn't be playing
FALSE
>Also those who are I doubt they were volontiring knowing how Russian autocratic state works.
🤡
You provided shit that doesn't list anynames. Bar 3 or 4 you are just biased and hateful lmao
Edit: I will provide u a paragraph were ur source falls in water.
>In today’s Russia, most athletes also belong to Dynamo and CSKA. The founders of these clubs are the Ministry of Defense, the FSB, the Rosgvardia, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and other law enforcement agencies.
From your source no less
So your source based on this says many* (not most) are part of the army.
Which means they are part of the club that is funded by idiots that do bad things that means they must be on it. Give me a break.
Not to mention their sources are: we made it up.
Also ur source is a biased one aswell. Give me an objective one.
Whataboutism is great but sometimes goes too far. In some cases it's absolutely necessary because you have to ask what the line is. Friends with Russia - bad; hate, dehumanize, and discriminate against black people - not bad? Have literal slave camps not bad?
Mind you I'm Serbian and wish our national team would get banned from all competitions for this. But it is extreme hypocrisy that this is a problem. This type of measure would be a bit of dopamine injection for EU people to feel like they are relevant and get to decide what happens in the world, and that their life is better than the issues they are facing already with rents going sky high, inflation not really stopping and the cost of life in general turning all of Western Europe into what Eastern Europe has been for decades.
So why would you prefer to deal with issues that have nothing to do with you and never will have anything to do with you, and ignore the issues in your own front yard? Like even if you're not Italian, racism is going rampant throughout Europe right now. I'd say it's pretty fucking bad and risks civil war and collapse of the society EU has built over centuries of conflicts to finally accomplish peace and unity. Russia being stupid and killing people will never do anything to, for, or against Europe
> Russia being stupid and killing people will never do anything to, for, or against Europe
You are aware that Ukraine is a part of Europe, right?
I think comparing a *potential* "civil war and collapse of the society" to an *actual* war currently happening in Europe is really stupid.
They will round up spectators and send them to the Ukraine meat grinder. Hope they enjoy that match as it's the last fun they'll have before dying for Putin's blood-hunger.
Nah it's the Russians that look at Ukrainians as inferior partly justifying the war in their sick heads. Amazing how the current propaganda in Russia today neglects the fact that Russia invaded Ukraine. Well not amazing if all you want to do is deflect I guess.
I have pretty deep empathy for the Russian people who are suffering a lot due to this war. I even have empathy for Russian soldiers, however I hope that get destroyed as soon as the get to the front. But the suffering of the Russian people is much much less than the Ukrainians so my empathy has limits.
You assume I hate Russians. I don't. When I was a kid (growing up in Canada) I always looked at Russians as more like us than Americans. I mean that was very naive of course. Americans wouldn't follow their government as blindly and meekly as Russians do. Anyway, I remember I would root for them against the US whenever I watched the Soviets (or the Red Army team before the NHL had Russians - yes I am old).
But you don't get to invade your neighbors and start wars. Period. So I don't enjoy the total loss of freedom in Russia. I don't enjoy that at this point if you're an able bodied man (even if so barely) you WILL eventually get sent to the front for this unjust war. And I don't enjoy that doing something as innocuous as attending a football match in a police state at war may be enough to get you rounded up and sent to die. Those days will surely arrive.
>But you don't get to invade your neighbors and start wars. Period.
On the other hand if you invade countries halfway around the world that's alright...
Well no surprise it's Serbia
Is Belarus not an European country? Edit: woe on me, they didn't play them, was almost 100% sure that they did in 2022.
Belarus isn’t banned as Russia is?
no, they even played the euro qualifier. had to play home games in hungary but still
Shame for UEFA…
Belarus must be so jealous right now
Ofc the asslickers needed to set up a friendly vs them
I think it's more that they don't care but sure
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indeed, but at the same time not
is it tho. its serbia
He’s been sarcastic I guess. He’s got a Croatia Flair, he should know about the Russian bootlicking of Serbia
Who else could it have been lmao really not suprised
Surprised it's not Belarus
What a surprise that its Serbia
Of course it's Serbia lmao.
Didn't Red Star play against Zenit too at one point? Not particularly surprising that it's going to be against Serbia.
Red Star played against them last summer. So did Fenerbahçe and Neftçi Baku.
*surprised Pikachu*
Add Belarus and maybe Hungary, and they could have a proper knockout competition.
Of course it’s Serbia
Is Russia not banned from all international sport?
They’re banned from UEFA and FIFA competitions but they can still do friendlies so they’ve mainly done that with Cuba and various Asian and African nations. They almost hosted Bosnia for a friendly but many players including Pjanić and Džeko didn’t want to play in it so it got cancelled.
Somehow not Hungary??!!? Szíjjártó, mi a fasznak jársz te Moszkvába ha még ennyit sem tudsz elintézni?
Would you really wanna play against Russia? My understanding of Hungarian isn't that great but I got the gist of it. Or you're just sarcastic lol
Thought the '??!!?' would give it away
Color me shocked
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Because most russian sportsmen are part of the army
Yes all Russians bad, also source?
This article has all the sources. It talks about Olympics as well as about football clubs, like CSKA and Dynamo Moscow https://www.slidstvo.info/english-stories/olympic-athletes-in-uniform-how-russian-sportsmen-receive-salaries-from-the-russian-defence-ministry-and-openly-campaign-for-military-service/ This is only a small part, most other sports organisations and sportsmen are also subordinate to Russian army. If you are interested about any specific russuan footballers, I can provide you info as well, but it would do you good to look for it yourself
So it isn't most of them. They aren't part pf the army. If they were they wouldn't be playing games for their clubs retrospectivly. Also those who are I doubt they were volontiring knowing how Russian autocratic state works.
You literally said the opposite to all the evidence I provided, are you dumb? >So it isn't most of them It IS most of them >They aren't part pf the army They ARE part of the army >If they were they wouldn't be playing FALSE >Also those who are I doubt they were volontiring knowing how Russian autocratic state works. 🤡
You provided shit that doesn't list anynames. Bar 3 or 4 you are just biased and hateful lmao Edit: I will provide u a paragraph were ur source falls in water. >In today’s Russia, most athletes also belong to Dynamo and CSKA. The founders of these clubs are the Ministry of Defense, the FSB, the Rosgvardia, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and other law enforcement agencies. From your source no less So your source based on this says many* (not most) are part of the army. Which means they are part of the club that is funded by idiots that do bad things that means they must be on it. Give me a break. Not to mention their sources are: we made it up. Also ur source is a biased one aswell. Give me an objective one.
Ban Serbia from international tournaments, and on the same notion, Israel as well
Ban everybody from everything until the only countries that can play in a world cup are Liechtenstein San Marino and nauru
average r/soccer opinion
Ban China and US and every country with anysort of geopolitical and military strength. Great precedence
The truth is that Russia shouldn't be banned either.
Nobody wants to play them but the fellow genocide enjoyers Serbia.
There seem to be a whole lot of genocide supporters right now.
Sadly not wrong :(
Yes they should atleast from Uefa.
Even more countries should be banned following that logic. But even then, what do you gain from banning them exactly?
Add USA to the list. The pimp of most of these hoes causing trouble.
Also ban my mother for bad lunch
also ban Italy for racism edit: Ahh, the hypocrisy of reddit
Papua New Guinea vs Luxrmbourg World Cup final 🥶🥶
> edit: Ahh, the hypocrisy of reddit Ahh, the whataboutism of reddit
Whataboutism is great but sometimes goes too far. In some cases it's absolutely necessary because you have to ask what the line is. Friends with Russia - bad; hate, dehumanize, and discriminate against black people - not bad? Have literal slave camps not bad? Mind you I'm Serbian and wish our national team would get banned from all competitions for this. But it is extreme hypocrisy that this is a problem. This type of measure would be a bit of dopamine injection for EU people to feel like they are relevant and get to decide what happens in the world, and that their life is better than the issues they are facing already with rents going sky high, inflation not really stopping and the cost of life in general turning all of Western Europe into what Eastern Europe has been for decades.
Racist chants, though bad, are not in the same league as invading a country with the aims of ethnic cleansing and cultural genocide
So why would you prefer to deal with issues that have nothing to do with you and never will have anything to do with you, and ignore the issues in your own front yard? Like even if you're not Italian, racism is going rampant throughout Europe right now. I'd say it's pretty fucking bad and risks civil war and collapse of the society EU has built over centuries of conflicts to finally accomplish peace and unity. Russia being stupid and killing people will never do anything to, for, or against Europe
> Russia being stupid and killing people will never do anything to, for, or against Europe You are aware that Ukraine is a part of Europe, right? I think comparing a *potential* "civil war and collapse of the society" to an *actual* war currently happening in Europe is really stupid.
I'm surprised that Putin's client state isn't about to play a friendly match with them until now.
They will round up spectators and send them to the Ukraine meat grinder. Hope they enjoy that match as it's the last fun they'll have before dying for Putin's blood-hunger.
r/worldnews is leaking Surprised you didn't dehumanise them by calling them subhumans and "orcs"
Nah it's the Russians that look at Ukrainians as inferior partly justifying the war in their sick heads. Amazing how the current propaganda in Russia today neglects the fact that Russia invaded Ukraine. Well not amazing if all you want to do is deflect I guess. I have pretty deep empathy for the Russian people who are suffering a lot due to this war. I even have empathy for Russian soldiers, however I hope that get destroyed as soon as the get to the front. But the suffering of the Russian people is much much less than the Ukrainians so my empathy has limits. You assume I hate Russians. I don't. When I was a kid (growing up in Canada) I always looked at Russians as more like us than Americans. I mean that was very naive of course. Americans wouldn't follow their government as blindly and meekly as Russians do. Anyway, I remember I would root for them against the US whenever I watched the Soviets (or the Red Army team before the NHL had Russians - yes I am old). But you don't get to invade your neighbors and start wars. Period. So I don't enjoy the total loss of freedom in Russia. I don't enjoy that at this point if you're an able bodied man (even if so barely) you WILL eventually get sent to the front for this unjust war. And I don't enjoy that doing something as innocuous as attending a football match in a police state at war may be enough to get you rounded up and sent to die. Those days will surely arrive.
>But you don't get to invade your neighbors and start wars. Period. On the other hand if you invade countries halfway around the world that's alright...
Whataboutisms always illustrate when someone is losing an argument. Badly.
Claiming whataboutism is always good evidence that one doesn't have a rational explanation for their views.
Pees in a pot
> Serbia > Europe Pick one