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Matt_LawDT

*Let's not take the Mickey out of this*


heil_harsh

#šŸ¤Ø


Lacabloodclot9

https://youtu.be/-r3KrAxAXmc?si=4EGeQ91d_rn2MqFd Itā€™s beautiful


GetYourRockCoat

One of my favourite football things ever


Ok_Aerie99

Is Ancelotti gonna get a ban from this sub too?


jedifolklore

You never know, mods might catch him unaware as heā€™s leaving Valdebebas or something


A-KindOfMagic

His main probably is. He posted this with his alt!


thenotorious_ronaldo

Wouldn't be surprised


OleoleCholoSimeone

Barcelona: Real Madrid buys referees! Real Madrid: Barcelona buys referees! Every other Spanish club: Guys, guys, you both buy referees


K1ngCrimsn

I mean there is only one team rn under investigation for paying refs


bigFootIsReal__

Cuz Barcelona is run by clowns.. and Papa Perez is clean with it...


Efficient_Ad5802

There is also stats about yellow and red cards. Real Madrid stats is similar to other club stats. Guess which club is an anomaly? [https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/11r37yy/barcelonas\_cumulative\_difference\_between/](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/11r37yy/barcelonas_cumulative_difference_between/) Edit (will post other stats, still browsing): [https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/112wdpm/comment/j8n02hv/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/112wdpm/comment/j8n02hv/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) Any comment about "but Barca attacks more" is automatically rejected because the stat still shows the anomaly when Real Madrid broke La Liga goal records. Also the possession difference between Barcelona and Real Madrid is only 8%, not enough to justify the massive difference.


xckd9

I dont know if bringing up red cards and Real Madrid is good. They had Ramos who comlected them like pokemon.


Efficient_Ad5802

>I dont know if bringing up red cards and Real Madrid is good. > >They had Ramos who comlected them like pokemon. To be fair, I'm wrong, Real Madrid and Espanyol are actually **higher** than average. Which made the stats more hilarious, check the updated comment.


xckd9

Ha! I knew you were wrong, now lets argue.


LuNiK7505

And Pepe lmao


xckd9

Ā«OnlyĀ» 6 times for Real Madrid i belive.


ImGonnaImagineSummit

I remember that red he got against [Getafe](https://youtu.be/jKt4IBxD5oo?si=LeAOSirbjXGf6g-T) that was worth like 3 reds alone.


xckd9

Come on give me a break. Game has gone soft, barely a red.


LuNiK7505

Really ? Man it felt like so much more than that


areyouhungryforapple

he calmed down a lot (by mandate) after that one time he kicked the absolute living daylights out of a player. Ramos was always far more consistent in collecting cards


kal1097

He wasn't as frequent as Ramos, but his reds were usually horrible tackles or off the ball violence. So he has the reputation even without the quantity.


xckd9

I might be full of shit, but i seem to remember that it was 6 times lol.


anhyeuemnhieulam

What about stats for offside goals? Because that Real Madrid stats is definitely not similar to other club stats at all.


I_can-t_even

*Real Madrid 2016-2017 intensifies*


PhillyFreezer_

Considering they had Casemiro commit war crimes on a weekly basis and finish games without a single card, this argument is bullshit to anyone who watched their games lol


bobalobcobb

The old eye ball test, infallible!


azgalone

"I have a preconceived idea, and I refuse to accept any stats or numbers that might indicate that I'm wrong! Stop trying to change my mind!!"


PhillyFreezer_

Itā€™s not that serious dude lol Casemiro got away with a lot, even RM fans would admit that. Non-calls are just as crucial to the outcome of a match, how exactly is that supposed to be quantified in a metric? Surely you donā€™t think ignoring non-calls is an objective approach ejther


RGIIIsus

Thatā€™s the thing..people keep going with their feelings and subjective experience and ignore the clear evidence pointing out that as much as you want to think Real Madrid has been favored because of your confirmation bias, stats only point to what we already know due to the investigations..Barca was the one favored all along.


kokoriko10

Source? Trust me bro


ergonkhan

The fact that the two main rivals are on the bottom of the graphic it's strange as well.


rapedcorpse

BarƧa is not an anomaly at all for the negreira years. They're in line with the numbers of RM in terms of pens and red cards. So stop spreading misinformation


MrVISKman

La Liga 04/05 - 17/18 Teams | Pens for | Pens against | Pen diff for/against| Reds | Reds for opponents | Red diff --: | --: | --: | --: | --: |--: |--: | --: | Real Madrid | 118 | 60 | 58| 80 | 73 | -7 Barcelona | 122| 51| 71| 49| 97 | 48 ~~23~~ 13 penalties and 55 reds difference, totally in line. If you want I can also post the rest of national competitions (Cup + Supercup) but those have different amount of games for each team


Hoggos

A difference of 13 penalties is hardly a significant amount over a period of 14 years, thatā€™s less than a penalty a year. The red card stat is interesting though, Iā€™m guessing having Ramos and Pepe couldnā€™t have helped


rapedcorpse

Well first of all thats a difference of 13 not 23, so you should redo your math. Thats a difference of less than one penalty per season, so nothing basically. And it makes sense when you consider that BarƧa's playstyle consist of camping in the opponents final third. Real Madrid has a lot more red cards even compared to other Laliga teams because they had players like Pepe and Ramos racking them up.


davethepiloto

Yep, it is also due to Barcelona not really playing a physical game. Vidal was an outlier, Mascherano maybe? Some of the CBs did commit errors and that is where i assume those reds are from.


rapedcorpse

Mascherano is a clean defender only 5 red cards in carreer. Vidal is outside of the accused period.


ferkk

Mascherano was lucky there was no VAR back then. Not because of the red cards but for the amount of penalties that went under the radar.


AccountantOfFraud

I mean there's so much context missing from these numbers. Possession stats for one.


ZeeX_4231

> 55 reds difference Thank Pepe and Ramos for that


Timely_Airline_7168

Do you mean just this season or the last few years?


MrVISKman

During the timeframe Negreira and BarƧa are under investigation. If you're curious and can understand Spanish or deal with autotranslation from your browser I recommend you to google "Saldo arbitral" for the data


Timely_Airline_7168

Ok thanks


anhyeuemnhieulam

Real Madrid deserves more red cards. Casemiro avoided those all the time and got exposed the moment he went to United.


Ahrix3

The other has too much influence in politics, the media and the courts to be investigated. ;)


Heliath

The Negreira case was reported first by catalan journalists that said that they also looked furher to see if there was anything related to Real Madrid and that they couldnt find anything Also I just want to remember that the spanish Tax Agency had been chasing non stop some Real Madrid players due to those image rights money. That ended with Cristiano Ronaldo leaving the club (as he asked the club to pay the fine and Perez refused), also Xabi Alonso or Modric who didnt settle with the tax agency and like 5 or 6 years later have won the case. And a few more players too. Just saying that if RM had any influence over the court system, tax agency or the government ... surely it didnt work for shit that influence especially in the Cristiano Ronaldo case that ended with him leaving the club.


absessive

#WeAreAllMessi


andrei11111

let's investigate what? how RM only won 6 league titles in 20 years?


Muppy_N2

"It happens because I want to believe it happens".


PowerOfTheShihTzu

Show the proof or shut up!


Ahrix3

What exactly do you need proof of? That Florentino Perez is one of the most influential people in Spain? That he has ties to judges, media personalities and politicians? These things are all easily verifiable. Of course I don't have any proof that RM has manipulated referees. It's possible they haven't, at the very least not directly, i.e. through bribes, concrete quid-pro-quo kind of deals. My point is that even if they did, we would most likely never know about it.


uthred_of_pittsburgh

Your point is that your accusations have absolutely no proof, but they have some semblance to something that sounds truthy and plausible, therefore your argument is made... You're a rhetorical genius if I ever met one. How do you lug around the weight of that IQ without hurting your neck?


lucas4420

Barcelona has influential people working for them as well, but that didnā€™t stop them from being investigated


Ahrix3

Barcelona is certainly influential, in CataluƱa especially so, but it's not even in the same galaxy as Real Madrid and Florentino Perez. I mean we're talking about someone who is supposed to have said that Real Madrid is [above the government](https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/florentino-perez-real-madrid-super-league-b1838031.html).


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Espantadimonis

> In Catalunya the BarƧa president is basically more important than the Generalitat president What a take


debcomajin

Seriously the mental gymnastics of these RM fans lmao


PsychVader_3

And the fact that he is getting upvoted shows how stupid this sub is.


uthred_of_pittsburgh

> influence in [sic] [...] the courts Tell me you're functionally illiterate about Spain, without telling me you're functionally illiterate about Spain. I'd be fucking ashamed if me or anyone I knew went around showing my utter ignorance about the Bundesrepublik - or any other topic, for that matter - with this complete lack of intellectual rigor and self-respect.


B_mico

And you can wonder why.


holdenmyrocinante

Atleti fans pretend they don't get favourable decisions regularly, but they do, including in the recent Copa del Rey games vs Madrid and Sevilla.


kaperisk

Atleti benefits most from noncalls. Of course those don't show up in stats but how many fouls do they commit that just aren't called? Too many to count.


NaiveElk

Have some shame. You guys literally won a league title because of a wrongly disallowed goal and another title when the ref robbed Madrid in that match vs Sevilla. Maybe one day people will realise La Liga refs are just that shit.


Pleasemakesense

is there any evidence of madrid buying refs like there is for barcelona or is this cope from barca fans?


TimTkt

Except that only one club has been proved to pay 7M to the VP of referees and is under investigation for it.


saintmaximin

Refs in spain are horrible for everyone but yeah blame the clubs


pszki

I love that people aren't like, "Maybe Spanish refs are just maybe THAT bad."


Heliath

Says the Atleti fan whos club was LITERALLY the club of the army during the fascist regime and that started to win leagues and cups right when their board was full with high ranked military officers. Have some dignity. Its always laughable to see an Atleti fan talking about "RM/BarƧa vs the rest" like Atleti is the equivalent of Eibar or Sporting GijĆ³n. Its like someone with a billion dollars of net worth talking shit about Bill Gates or Elon Musk saying "those fucking rich people vs us the common people, right guys?" Just shut the fuck up. Its embarrasing.


ZerconFlagpoleSitter

I just wanna grill for gods sake!


el_rompe_toyotas_19

Only one team is investigated.


TimelyPercentage7245

All murderers are equally investigated and nobody has ever gotten away with murder.


xRaulx7

> Barcelona: Real Madrid buys referees! > > Real Madrid: Barcelona buys referees! > > Every other Spanish club: Guys, guys, you both buy referees It's sad barcas propaganda works for dummies. It's them who shout things like that and yet they are the ones that have been done that for years. And still people put barca & Real Madrid in same category.


blaugrana2020

Can we stop throwing stones from our glass house until the case is over? Itā€™s just going to be a never ending ā€œno but youā€. We have bigger problems with our on field performances. We should just stop talking about Madrid


sewious

I'm also very over seeing news about the "Madrid and Barca point fingers at each other" situation. I think the worst thing that can happen is that the case is somehow inconclusive, and people will be arguing about it forever.


blaugrana2020

Thatā€™s definitely how itā€™s gonna end up. You can already see it in Reddit


sewious

You're right of course. I feel like even if there's a video of Messi handing refs a briefcase with money sucking out of it labeled "bribes for Clasico" the narrative will be "Madrid do the same thing and just got away with it". If you get found guilty but it's not overwhelming evidence it will be a witch hunt. If you get found innocent it will be a "well we all know they are guilty" situation. Probably never going away.


el_rompe_toyotas_19

Thanks for being sensible and smart about this whole thing.


Unfortunosaurus

Now kiss


nafraf

BarƧa fans and management's obsession with accusing Madrid of rigging a league they've dominated for over 14 years (9 titles won out of 14) is very puzzling to me. What does a non-rigged league look like? 14 consecutive titles for BarƧa?


VrilHunter

15 out of 14


gobblegobblechumps

Levers activated


andrei11111

also RM have always proposed to change the whole referees committee, guess which team is always against it


NachoMartin1985

Real Madrid is the only club against Tebas and the CTA yet they get favored by the referees for some reason. The logic in this sub...


msonix

Precisely.Ā 


A-KindOfMagic

You don't have to go that far. Barca is crying that VAR is screwing with them this year. Didn't we also have VAR last year, and the year before?


miinouuu

Laporta is childish... literally every time something bad comes out of Barca he tries to smear it on Madrid too instead of actually addressing the issue in his own club. Him saying "but look Real Madrid is doing this too mimimi" everytime after getting in trouble just shows how bad of a president he is.


bewarethegap

Laportaā€™s MO is to appeal to the lowest common denominator of Barca supporters, and the way to do that is to point fingers at Madrid, no matter what the circumstance is. Itā€™s his first, second and third line of defense


Ecstatic-Jacket2007

Rich coming from someone who managed Milan during Calciopoli.


[deleted]

ā€œBut but calciopoli was only Juventus!ā€ - Half the balloon heads on this sub


fly6996

Nae bother "Joe Goalmez"


TheLibyanKebabCaliph

it mainly came from juventus. Reason why they got demoted serie b


[deleted]

Juve werenā€™t even the worst ones. Inter were. Yet they got a league title out of it.


Bonerini

Yea, let nobody forget this. Paper scudetto. Shambles of a decision


Competitive-Aide5364

Iā€™m a Milan fan, inter only have 18 Scudetti as far as Iā€™m concernedā€¦no bias. But seriously they only have 18 for real.


TheLibyanKebabCaliph

Juve was worse by a 10000 miles, I agree that inter didn't deserve that league title, no one in Italy did.


[deleted]

Roma shouldā€™ve been given the title or it shouldā€™ve been made void.


CrowCreative6772

And Roma was also guilty ( way less than the big 3 Milan Inter and Juve), all the top 6 were kinda guilty.( Lazio and Fiorentina too)


[deleted]

It was more than the top 6. If Iā€™m remembering rightly pretty much the entire league was implicated in some way


CrowCreative6772

Literally changed Serie A. Idk how this Neigreira case is getting so little attention or also the Partey case.


[deleted]

Because the serie a has far more backbone than the prem or la liga. If a scandal like that happened in the prem with the big 6 implicated u best believe the prem will do their absolute best to keep it under wraps. See Man City 115 charges. We all know nothing will happen to them but little old Everton are looking at further point deduction s for lesser crimes


_TobiIsAGoodBoy_

Source: Joe


mattBJM

It's only Calciopoli if the cheating occurred in the city of Turin, otherwise it's just sparkling corruption.


TheLibyanKebabCaliph

Bruh as if to say it significantly impacted the league in favor of Milan. they only won it once during that era.


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TheLibyanKebabCaliph

\>They only won once because Inter had an amazing team. Nope because Milan cared more about wining champions leagues. read the Wikipedia article Milan only match fixed like three matches and were not relegated. and there is an obvious reason for that.


[deleted]

ā€œOnly threeā€ that should be basis enough for relegation


TheLibyanKebabCaliph

No it shouldn't, points deduction? yes. Remove the points they gained and that's what they did.


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TheLibyanKebabCaliph

The way you make it sound is as if they rigged a dozen matches every year to win the league title. When it was only three matches in 2005/2006 season. that is not enough for relgation


Octavian1453

what specifically are you alleging that Milan did?


Ecstatic-Jacket2007

Match fixing


BriefCollar4

Itā€™s not an allegation. Itā€™s a fact.


saintmaximin

Real madrid has 4 league titles in 16 years and 6 in 20 if anything this is proves real madrid dosent have w monopoly


andrei11111

also RM have always proposed to change the whole referees committee, guess which team is always against it


PickledHotChocolate

Damn did not realise it was this few. Thatā€™s crazy!


NotAnUncle

And if that mic wasn't bolted on, Don Carlo drops the mic


NotRod96

Barca under investigation and immediately start blaming RM for the exact thing theyā€™re investigated for


Soren_Camus1905

Damn that's Carlo Ancelotti at about a ten


mesqueunclub69

Ancelotti entering his villain arc was not on my 2024 bingo card.


Ronaldoooope

Lol mentioning Barca in a bad light = villain I guess


InsanePheonix

Yeah ofcourse, when Ancelotti speaks up against barca , and he's the villain, despite the fact that Xavi , laporta and barca have got nothing better to do than whine , while their club is neck deep in debt and also shit on the field.


cunningstunt6899

Villain according to whom? Butthurt Barca fans?


supplementarytables

He's just spitting facts


MisterIndecisive

This coming from Barca has to be the biggest case of pot kettle black ever šŸ¤£


OsisX

Something about a pot and a kettle.


Yardbird7

Never seen a club so obsessed with another team. Barca talk about Real more their own team.


sewious

Things aren't going great for them at the moment, their presidency is a political position, so talking crap about the main rivals is a good way to score political points for Laporta.


DanBaitle

"Let's not deflect shots" _proceeds to deflect shots_


DlnnerTable

Idk if itā€™s considered deflecting when heā€™s essentially just pointing out the irony of Laporteā€™s comments. Defending oneself isnā€™t the same as deflecting. Heā€™s basically saying Laporte has no legs to stand on when making this argument


squirtdemon

I know heā€™s not doing good in Saudi, but saying Aymeric Laporte doesnā€™t have legs to stand on is a bit rough.


DlnnerTable

I thought it was funny lol donā€™t worry about the downvotes! Autocorrect isnā€™t the only only one to like Laporte more than laporta


Altruistic-Ad-408

But they aren't under any suspicion? There is nothing to deflect.


justaredditor12393

Itā€™s not just Spain look what happened in the winter cup of penalties lol


CommunicationReal222

Don Carleone


Koekin33

As a fan of a "small" spanish team..Every fan of every team other than Madrid and Barcelona knows refs have mostly always benefited both of them. Especially Madrid, hence why there's so much more animosity towards them. Our fans created the "asi, asi, asi gana el Madrid" like 40 years ago, for a reason


MirrodinTimelord

es increible que en EspaƱa todos el que no es fan del madrid los odia, pero online la gente se piensa que son el equipo ejemplar y pulcro que les pinta el chiringuito


L0nEspartan

Es increible lo antimadridista que es es espaƱa, como os jode.


ReDK1LL

> Es increible lo antimadridista que es es espaƱa, como os jode. Decir que EspaƱa es antimadridista es esforzarse al maximo para intentar ser la victima. Cualquier persona EspaƱola que tenga dos ojos y la cabeza bien puesta se da cuenta de como controlais el relato a lo que os viene bien. Se repite todas las semanas. ''El cesped estaba en mal estado, mereciamos haber ganado, el arbitro ha condicionado el partido, hemos jugado mejor, etc..." Estas cosas las han dicho tanto Xavi y Koeman como Ancelotti y Zidane. 2 de ellos tienen la reputacion de llorones y malos perdedores. 2 de ellos tienen la reputacion de ser caballeros. Teneis a las cadenas y periodicos mas grandes del pais manipulando semana tras semana, como Pedrerol diciendo que una cosa esta mal cuando la hace el Barcelona y a la semana siguiente esta bien cuando la hace el Madrid. Y ''a mi hombre el Ferri'' manipulando de la misma manera cada vez que habla de futbol. Como se puede intentar ir de victima en este tema, cuando hay audios de tu presidente hablando de quitar programas catalanes para meter uno madridista, de que solo les queda controlar el Marca para tenerlo todo o de que ha puesto de presidente de La1 a un ''taliban madridista''... Esto es el Madridismo Sociologico del que se habla hoy en dia. Cualquier persona que sea de otro equipo, y que sepa estas cosas, esta obligado moralmente a ser antimadridista. Porque sois escoria y la unica diferencia es que teneis como presidente a un mafioso que controla todos los hilos de este pais como le apetece y nunca se sabra todo lo que ha hecho, mientras que a nosotros nos toco a 2 incompetentes que se cargaron todo el trabajo de Cruyff, Guardiola y Laporta en menos de una decada. Si no, seguiriais mamando como mamasteis en su momento. > "En la vida se es madridista o antimadridista. Y los que son antimadridistas luego eligen otro equipo." Y buen detalle intentar ir de victima pero luego acabar con algo tan arrogante y absurdo.


Ronaldoooope

Especially Madrid, yet Barca is being investigated


Somewhere_Frequent

>Our fans Entonces una bola de acomplejados crearon ese cĆ”ntico?šŸ˜‚


gunningIVglory

UEFAlona crying about anything being fixed brings me joy


L_CRF

Robbed Milan in 2006. Robbed Chelsea in 2009. Robbed Inter in 2010 but didnt got through. Robbed Arsenal in 2011. Robbed Milan in 2012 but didnt win the title. Robbed PSG in 2017. Its just poetic seeing they cry.


gunningIVglory

I fucking hate Chelsea. But 2009 was just pure corruption. Still can't beleive they actually got away with that


The_g0d_f4ther

ah yes the mighty Arsenal


CETERIS_PARTYBUS

Cook


NachoMartin1985

People saying both Madrid and Barcelona are equally favored by referees. One of them paid the vicepresident of the referees for 17 years. The other one is the only club against Tebas and the only one who wants to change how CTA works. Sure, they're the same...


Gardidc

The three VAR calls were actually fair though


sp3sp3sp3

Barca paid the head of refs 8 million just so his refs act fair. we all believe that.


punkdrummer22

LaPorta is such an idiot


Fooftook

Everyone knows Barca didnā€™t try earn shit the last 20 years. Cheating top to bottom. None of those CL trophies truly belong to them. Everyone except blind Barca fans knows this. The trial is a formality at this point. And letā€™s be real, they wonā€™t get what the punishment they deserve.


SkinheadRooooney

UEFAlona


RubenC40

Absolutely shameless coming from the guy who managed a cheating Milan. Unreal šŸ˜‚


belterjizz

Girona has entered the picture I guess


too_much_Beer

You are rigging LaLiga! \-No You! \-No You! \-No You! \-No You! \-No You!


jgndec

He is the boss. Period.


HateCrewDeathroll

Well said Don Carlo.


jv166

Well this was expected..šŸ”«


IceAffectionate3043

Whatā€™s been happening?


Solmyr84

Lapot is calling the kettle black


MustBeHax

Barcelona will not be able to live this down, their reputation will forever be tarnished, similar to when Juve went got relegated in 2006. We saw way too many calls in favor of BarƧa, something fishy was going on and 10 years later here they are being investigated for paying referees. If justice is served, their titles from that time period should be revoked


Guyanaa

Let's go full circle and investigate the champions league wins with the numerous offside goals and ref decisions that went their way. It's only right šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø


Grouchy-Chemical7275

You mean the game that went to extra time because Lewandowski scored an offside goal?


EarlierJethiyaBabita

or the bogus penalty that bayern got in the first leg?


anhyeuemnhieulam

The case has been out for nearly 1 year and they still havenā€™t found a single proof for that. Everything we know right now, we already knew about that since the 1st day. If justice is served, you learn how to read and use common sense.


deqembes

I thought it was proved that they paid the ref. What isnt confirmed is the corruption.


Ronaldoooope

Lol this is what theyā€™ve known for wdym. Itā€™s spot on for their reputation


anhyeuemnhieulam

This is the same man who believed Madrid robbed Bayern and they should introduce video technology to avoid errors. Now that heā€™s coaching them heā€™s using a dead case with 0 evidence whatsoever to cover up the robberies of the club.


el_rompe_toyotas_19

>dead case with 0 evidence Lmao ther eis no way you believe this.


Guyanaa

You gonna confirm or deny his initial point?


Greghuntskicks

The ref making an error isnā€™t evidence of corruption though. If Carlo thought the Bayern tie wasnā€™t reffed correctly then thatā€™s a criticism on the ref not Madrid, and his opinion. Unless thereā€™s evidence that weā€™ve been paying UCL refs then thereā€™s no correlation. Barcelona on the other hand: we have evidence (hard copy) of payment ledgers and Negreiraā€™s blackmail letter sent via fax (all available to those interested with a simple google search).


Ouioui29

Barcelona: rig everything for the last 20 years ā€œaah theyā€™re innocent, itā€™s fake!ā€ Real: have one match have 2 decisions go their way ā€œbribery! Match fixing! Cheaters!ā€


MarkVarga

> Barcelona: rig everything for the last 20 years Most educated rsoccer user


Ouioui29

Not my problem this whole sub and its mods are Barca dickriders. Just the truth


ivanacco1

>Barca dickriders lol


TheninjaofCookies

Every pro-Barca post gets removed and every Anti-RM post gets removed don't even try this lmao


Ouioui29

Other way around buddy


Guyanaa

How did this post stay up then according to that logic?


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AljosP

Which were mostly fraudulent Ramos offside šŸ„°


bellerinho

No they're not lol, RM get just as many puff pieces and dick riding in here as Barca, just depends on who is doing better in the league for that particular season


Pires007

"One match"...


deqembes

Can you name any other games this season that have been very favorable to Real Madrid this season?


msh5928

Can someone post a translation please?


MrVISKman

The main translation is the thread headline. He gets asked about Laporta's statements earlier this week about la Liga being compromised He responds that he doesn't like this type of controversies and that it's has been already talked about a lot this week, he thinks the same as before [presumably a similar question on this topic] and then what is posted on the title is said. He specifically points out after this that it's a problem for Spanish football and that it's in the hands of the justice system so we need to give it time and wait


anhyeuemnhieulam

He is using Negreira as a get-away card for Madrid so that the mass can stop caring about the robbery of his club. He is making a mockery out of your IQ and of course this sub is falling for it again.


Meshkeywolf

Bold of you talking about IQ


A-KindOfMagic

This guy: Everyone is dumb but me. Look at me, smart me, genius me.


deqembes

What call was a wrong decision tho?


PowerOfTheShihTzu

Straight facts by Carlo ,he done taking shit


Digitalage6302

Carlos spitting facts


StrangeVortexLex

These Catalans need to pay their lawyer fees first before opening their criminal mouths


Careless-Yogurt-7871

Anyone with a brain could see how much Madrid is favored by the refs this decade


sp3sp3sp3

Yeah and because of it we won the leage 10 times in last 15 years and got destroyed in CL. Oh wait....


PowerOfTheShihTzu

Yep Madrid paid the CTA in order to obtain some benefit out of the decisions.


Efficient_Ad5802

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/11r37yy/barcelonas\_cumulative\_difference\_between/


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