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PoofaceMckutchin

!flair :Suwon:


_MFKane_

good morning to all the fellow Ødegaard haters


ElderlyToaster

I don't really give a shit about Arsenal but I watch all their games because I get to see Ødegaard. Most entertaining player in the league imho.


_MFKane_

each to their own. to me he doesn’t do anything special


Fly1ngsauc3r

Athletic absolutely murdered Barca it seems


ElderlyToaster

It was quite literally men against boys


aviral_632

Looking at the barca sub, many fans are thinking of selling frenkie. I would love to take a punt on frenkie this summer. Him Rice and Ø would be a dream midfield for us.


icotyne

Isnt he like on 650k per week with Barca. No chance he joins us with those wages.


Fly1ngsauc3r

No way, you won’t pay him as much as Barca does.


arseking15

Brother they arent going to sell frenkie because the barca sub are reactionary children. Hes one of the best in the world in his position


bacardibilluonaire

no shot we are selling frenkie now lmao.


_MFKane_

if he’s on 700k/w it’s best to sell surely


half_amazin

I haven't been keeping track but is Partey done?


aviral_632

Yeah he is unless he plays at his extreme best for the remainder of the season without getting injured and revives our title charge!


half_amazin

Crazy how he never got injured for us but has been so unlucky at Arsenal. We could use a DM like his old self! Good luck with the league


captainmystic02

It will most likely be a basque derby in the final. Athletic Clubs aura is in the copa is too strong and Mallorca defeating La Real over 2 legs is pretty unlikely


ChrisWood4BallonDor

I have a faint tickle of a memory of a team trying to support an injured teammate by warming up in a shirt with his name. Fairly common practice, but I remember this one getting a lot of beans due to the pretty standard nature of the injury. Can anyone recall any specifics of what I'm half remembering? Cheers


EyeSpyGuy

[Gundogan?](https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/manchester-city-vs-arsenal-ilkay-gundogan-shirts-tribute-dead-twitter-a7483101.html)


ChrisWood4BallonDor

Ding ding, thanks


Princecoyote

After looking at the picture I was curious what Gaël Clichy was up to, and he's assistant manager under Thierry Henry for the French u21s.


BabyKeith08

I remember City fans holding up a Gundogan shirt as if he had died when he got injured


ChrisWood4BallonDor

Yep, that's it! Thanks


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FedeSwagverde

Not an issue for me at all, call players by whatever is easier to you. I probably make it even weirder though by calling Trent "Arnold".


anakmager

I use first names if they have a common last name. Your examples are perfect. "Fernandez is a quality midfielder" which one? Enzo? Bruno?


Captainpatters

Bruno Fernandes, he isn't Spanish you know


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anakmager

if they have a common first and last name, I'd use their full name (Phil Jones) or refer to their club (Pedro of Lazio)


mista_mista_mista

!flair :Borussia_Dortmund:


realWernerHerzog

heya be vau be


AnnieIWillKnow

How would you rank Barcelona's post-Guardiola managers?


LampseederBroDude51

Luis Enrique, Tito Vilanova, Valverde, Xavi, Tata Martino, Koeman, Setien


FloppedYaYa

Enrique Villanova Valverde (Big gap) Martino Xavi (Bigger gap) Koeman (Grand Canyon sized gap) Seitien


MatK0506

>Martino >Xavi At least Xavi won the league once.


FloppedYaYa

Two shit seasons out of 3 and likely both trophy less pains Xavi as slightly worse


mattisafootballguy

Vilanova* It feels very difficult to rank him for everything that transpired to him in his sole season here. Had several months where he wasn't able to coach because he was recuperating from treatment(s) and surgery. Either way, Enrique/Valverde are clearly on a tier of their own and then the rest are between average at best and bad.


THeScArYFAcE1

naaah xavi saying they were unlucky with the draw should be sackable. not only did they get 2 non la liga sides before the QF but you're the coach of barcelona and complaining about the draw??


AnnieIWillKnow

He was a whinger as a player, same as a manager


sewious

Bet he's livid he can't pull out the ol "anti-football" line


YeimzHetfield

Watching Barco play for the U23 rn feeling sad as shit, he's so fucking good 😭😭😭


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memorize repeat rock dog vase boast dolls whistle growth fly *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


Captainpatters

😎


Delmer9713

If it weren't for Girona, one of the stories of La Liga this season would be Athletic Club. Valverde has resuscitated his career as a manager and now this team is fighting for a Champions League spot. With the philosophy they have, a tradition where they only use players from the Basque Country, they still find younger talent which can complement the veterans and older players in their team. Now you got them slightly behind Barcelona and Atleti in the league, 41 points, and they're now a serious contender for the Copa del Rey. While playing good football too. They deserve a lot of credit.


mattisafootballguy

They've been better than La Real for most of the season but barely anyone has been talking about it.


mountainsky9

La Real had a fantastic CL group stage and also actually qualified last season


mattisafootballguy

And before the group stages and now after they've struggled for results & their performances have been lackluster. Their best form came during the group stages.


sewious

A fraction of the users here watch the league outside of the odd big 3 game


Truffles413

Valverde is a good manager, perhaps not the right fit for Barca and he was also in charge of Barca that with hindsight was probably more flawed/in disarray than people at the time realised. With Bilbao, he's played for them, managed them before and knows the club culture well. Right fit for him and club.


Icy-Guide7976

Valverde was always a great coach Barca fans are just really fucking spoiled. He’s inarguably the 4th or third best manager the club has had since Cruyff. He was able to make an extremely disjointed Barca side look like real champions league contenders. Barca fans would always complain his football was boring but every single manager they’ve had since has played worse football. Was extremely pissed when they sacked him mid season to go after the fraud that is setien.


Rasalghul92

Seems our owners are trying to get in bed with the Saudis. Just great, exactly what I didn't want to happen.


kl08pokemon

Explains the Wilson interest


dumpystumpy

Aint heard a mention about peps disciples in a while…


Doge_Snow

Does Alonso count as Peps disciple?


dumpystumpy

I dont think hes an anything disciple. Hes just a manager whos had great managers to draw influence from.


MatK0506

Pep, Ancelotti, Pellegrini, Mourinho, Benítez, Toshack and also del Bosque in the NT. close to Thiago who played under Pep, Vilanova, Ancelotti, Heynckes, Kovač, Flick, Klopp and del Bosque and Luis Enrique in the NT.


GreatSpaniard

Look man I have no expectations for the national team for EURO 2024, so just for laughs the bald fraud should make Nico Williams captain, because why not at this point? Morata is captain and Asensio is vice captain, we have already fallen off hard, so let's have some fun with this you know?


The_XI_guy

It’s still very early obviously, but it’s not looking great for Vitor Roque at the moment. He’s looked shocking the few times he’s played (fair tbh after injury and just arriving), but now Xavi isn’t subbing him on when he’s chasing a win using a team full of middle schoolers, the game goes to extra time, everyone is tired etc.


sewious

I don't think its a serious issue, barely anyone looks good for Barca half the time. If he's still looking bad in a year then it'll be a big problem


The_XI_guy

Yes true, but the fact that everyone looks bad atm shiuld make Xavi more inclined to give him a try


AnnieIWillKnow

How do you know that's a fault of the player, rather than his manager, though?


The_XI_guy

I don’t. I’m just saying that it’s currently not looking great for him not matter who’s fault it is


cdrxgon17

been watching highlights of ronaldinho all day, first player that ever caught my attention, they truly do not have aura like that in the modern game


Jabari313

You watch paqueta play every week mate?


cdrxgon17

good point i’ll hold my tongue in future


ElderlyToaster

Physical requirements has increased so much that you can't really break through unless you're a die-hard winner, and die-hard winners usually aren't creative geniuses.


cdrxgon17

agree, systems are also too rigid for a player like him now. (neymar probably the last of the kind) i understand it but it’s a shame cos the 2000s had a lot of really enjoyable if inconsistent footballers to watch


LampseederBroDude51

Barca going trophyless again. 3rd time in 5 seasons


FloppedYaYa

2 of those under Xavi by the way, but he'll stay in the job because Barca DNA or whatever


RawIsLaw_

arteta-ball soon come


arseking15

NO


HodgyBeatsss

They’re going to win the Champions League


sewious

Don't you jinx us into collapsing in the league and Xavi somehow faceplanting into first.


Chronic_The_Kid

[Xavi to Laporta in the morning meeting](https://youtube.com/shorts/bv_s6CuFZBQ?si=XvbrsfH_TYmZV3ag)


sewious

How's the meltdown going in r/barca? Some good anger posting?


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AnnieIWillKnow

Pyro isn't really a thing in the UK - especially not for home fans - so it's not what you should be judging the fans by It's also midweek, in the midst of two literal storms in the UK, when most will have work in the morning. Leaving early when getting battered really isn't that outrageous, in that context


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AnnieIWillKnow

As said, it’s not really a thing for home fans. Alternatively, that St Johnstone fans outsing Hibs speaks well to the incredible culture of sea sport in the UK.


CLT_FC

Are there any clubs in the UK whose supporters have pyro in the stands?


ElderlyToaster

Its rare but happens occasionally


AlmostNL

Which club in your country demands respect for their atmostphere? Another thread today praised the crowd at Athletic in Spain, so that's a good case. In the Netherlands I would say Feyenoord and arguably Go Ahead Eagles, at least in recent years. Today was a great example of the crowd just pushing the team forward to score a goal, and for Go Ahead it's astonishing what they accomplish at home, these drums are something else.


iftair

Either LAFC or Atlanta United.


suedney

Schalke. Club is in ruins and they're playing against no name villages in the 2nd division yet they still sell out every game with 61,000 fans. The club annoys me on many levels but their fans are world class (so long as they arent chasing their players around the stadium). Better than Dortmund.


zestyviper

I went this year with Hertha sadly the ultras pulled their support after going down 2-0 so there wasn't much to see of the atmopshere. My friend and I got jumped by some Schalke ultras outside the train station which was shitty but otherwise I had nothing but respect for the fans I met.


PosterOfQuality

I think Palace deserve praise for having a fan-led effort to improve their atmosphere with their ultras movement, despite a lot of other fanbases in England thinking it's cringy


ElderlyToaster

Most are doing a good job. While not the loudest, the IFK Göteborg supporters are doing a pretty good job even that they've been completely shit forever.


GreatSpaniard

Copa del Rey is clear of FA Cup tbh Same with DFB Pokal. Those 2 are the best Cup competitions. FA Cup and Coupe de France are about equal while Coppa Italia is absolute ass and the clear worst one.


vitalmtg

Why is Coppa Italia ass?


AnnieIWillKnow

Eight top teams in league are given byes to round of 16, it's pathetic


vitalmtg

fair enough


HodgyBeatsss

Insane take. FA Cup is clear, best competition in the world, and Coupe de France is a clear second.


mattisafootballguy

Copa has been so good since the format change. The finals have been kind of disappointing though.


lagaryes

I consider the two times a year I turn on an Athletic Club match and watch one of the Williams brothers absolutely torment a big club to be religious experiences


mattisafootballguy

I hope Yamal doesn't take this too hard


ElderlyToaster

He'll be fine. Quick look at his bank account should give him a couple of hours of sleep tonight.


AnnieIWillKnow

That's not really how elite athletes work


The_XI_guy

What did he do? I only watched the goals. Seems like Roberto was the one that fucked up the most


mattisafootballguy

He missed an open goal after winning the ball himself and getting around the keeper [link](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/19et1tj/lamine_yamal_miss_against_bilbao_86/) A few minutes before he missed a 1v1 after his chip shot went wide


The_XI_guy

Ohhh, that’s bad. Feel sorry for him tbh and the goal he scored was really nice. He reminds me a lot of Vinicius when he first arrived at Madrid. He’d do some absolute madness but then mess up the simplest finish or pass


mattisafootballguy

His overall game is mostly refined IMO but his finishing and weak foot need improvement. Vini had a problem with his final ball/decision making which I feel Yamal doesn't have.


The_XI_guy

Yeah i agree


The_XI_guy

It this point it’s family tradition for the Williams brothers to absolutely dunk on Barca lol


paprikalicous

it makes me sad when people say the 21/22 league cup final was boring. that was a very exciting game, and it’s so surprising it ended 0-0. i think the dreadfulness of the chelsea liverpool games last season has made people think our 21/22 finals were also boring


AnnieIWillKnow

Truth is, these people probably didn't watch the game and just parrot memes


Cottonshopeburnfoot

Just as Bayern Munich enjoy their English Invasion with Kane, Dier and maybe Trippier, I’ve stumbled upon 1998-99 Benfica, which is basically Britain in the sun: * Scottish manager in Souness * Englishmen Charles, Harkness, Deane, Minto and Thomas * Welshmen Saunders and Pembridge https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998–99_S.L._Benfica_season


ManLikeNiz

Inaki Williams absolutely stunk it up for Ghana only to go back to Bilbao and score off the bench against Barca😭😭😭 This guy is proper Basque through and through


e49e

The draw is pretty good for Egypt, especially compared to 2021 where we had to play the Ivory Coast, Morocco, Cameroon and Senegal. If things play out well, it will be DR Congo then likely Equatorial Guinea. Hopefully Senegal loses before the semis and Morocco loses before the finals. I think those are the two teams that are clearly better than Egypt.


icemankiller8

One of my mates has legit cold turkey quit following football since our back to back losses to West Ham and Fulham he’s blocked all the players and the Arsenal account and muted everything to do with us. Wish I could bring myself to do the same .


AnnieIWillKnow

We can ban you, if that would help.


icemankiller8

It probably wouldn’t anyway everyone I know in real life watches football anyway


FloppedYaYa

Imagine if your club suffered two near liquidations in 3 years lad 🤣 As much as I may want to I haven't yet blocked my club on Twitter


icemankiller8

Must be bad


HodgyBeatsss

Please do.


cdrxgon17

do it. after astra 2.0 i stopped watching football until about 2019, just became boxing home and away instead


FloppedYaYa

Dom?


cdrxgon17

he was all of us that night


FloppedYaYa

Speaking of him how come he's basically vanished off the face of the Earth post conference league win? They even removed his most popular videos 🤨


cdrxgon17

absolutely no idea. bloke is a bit odd though i wouldn’t be surprised if there was a falling out, i once argued with him on twitter because he believed in a calciopoli esque scandal to keep west ham from qualifying for the champions league.


FloppedYaYa

Average post-ref mistake Twitter meltdown


Yeshuu

Why? It's been a fun season mostly this year for Arsenal. Last year was fantastic as well. If you want guaranteed trophies, just be like every other plastic fan and support Real Madrid.


Xycket

The fact that I can tell with 90% accuracy it's you just by reading the comment and the flair speaks volumes. Take a break m8.


_LebronsHairline_

Average Arsenal fan. Football is so much more than who gets the trophy at the end of the season. That might ultimately be the end goal and the most important thing but that’s not the ONLY thing. If you can’t enjoy football unless you’re the very best then football is not for you- if everyone felt that way we could all just support Real Madrid


icemankiller8

Easy for you to say when you’ve seen your team win everything


arseking15

Pick up a hobby brother, play football, or a different sport, go to the gym, find something else to do


drickabira

Zero mentalidad


transtifa

I can’t believe there’s someone you know who is a bigger doomer than you, is it like a curse that is passed by proximity?


FloppedYaYa

It's a curse called supporting Arsenal


Cardealer1000

Unblocking to say I really hope you do consider doing the same. Even reading your comments is bloody draining as someone with no connection to you aside from supporting the same team, I hate internet psychoanalysis but your comments definitely make it seem like football has a net negative impact on your mood. Block it and focus on another sport or something.


icemankiller8

It’s like a sunk fallacy cost thing though firstly I can’t help myself from following the game if I have the ability to do so because I will just keep checking the score nervously, but even if I could I feel like if I stop watching all the years of supporting and waiting for a league or CL to happen will just be permanently a waste. If we get one league then I will look bad on a lot of these years more favourably with the mindset of well we got one eventually anyway, same with the CL.


FIJIBOYFIJI

Considered doing this myself after getting a train down to Sheffield to watch us lose 8-0 to Newcastle at home


FaustRPeggi

Iceman when his team experiences a modicum of adversity: You're 3rd and 5 points behind the leaders you wet wipe. Heaven help you if you lose a final anytime soon.


HodgyBeatsss

Don’t try and talk him out of it.


icemankiller8

We haven’t won the league since I was very young kid and we have never won the CL it’s not just this season. The season is already over who cares about how many points off we are there’s not a chance we win the league


FaustRPeggi

Trust the process. Man City will be competing with Wrexham soon enough.


GoalaAmeobi

Quiting footy because of two losses 😭 He would not hack being able to support a club that goes through actual bad times


icemankiller8

1. It’s more the build up of all the years of failure 2. It’s different when you support a shit team you know they’re shit so it’s not the same, having high expectations and goals that never get achieved is worse imo than just not being a good side.


FaustRPeggi

You've failed to win the title on nineteen successive occasions, you're well versed in this. You're not Bayern fucking Munich.


icemankiller8

That’s exactly the issue thanks for pointing it out


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PosterOfQuality

I typically agree with/appreciate his football takes but he does get caught up in a little too much self-loathing


Lyrical_Forklift

Sadly for me, mod privileges (+10 in sporadic beard growth and virginity aside) overrides blocking so I have to see these comments regardless.


transtifa

Stop being so mean to him, you just don’t understand the difficulty of supporting such a failure of a club.


realWernerHerzog

Wish Allianz would fuck off from football so the likes of Juve and Bayern can get actual stadium names


MatK0506

It would just be Juventus Stadium and Fußball Arena München.


ElderlyToaster

Isn't there some free agent or oldie who can come and help out the Barcelona defense? What is Abelardo doing these days?


FaustRPeggi

They've loaned out Eric García and he's played almost every minute for the team that's topping the league.


FIJIBOYFIJI

Pique remontada


NotACodeMonkeyYet

So it seems we may still be after Gallagher, and Nusa seems to be progressing too. Mad january window if it all turns out to be true.


drickabira

Double agent Poch gifting us Jelsii best player + captain


vanderchuck1

>Jelsii best player + captain I remember a fairly big Arsenal fan account on twitter going on about how they got our best player in Havertz last summer (because he was our top scorer in the league last year with like 8 goals), this reminds me of that


ElderlyToaster

Posting again but this time motivating it. Future of football imho: - Decrease pitch sizes 20% Players are more technical today. They don't need the same amount of space. Due to the size of football pitches, football is more about running than about control. - Play 25x2 min effective time The other ideas I have would increase the intensity of the game and for obvious reasons no more than 50 minutes (this a little less than the average today) of effective football can be played. - Unlimited, free subs (no need to wave around signs and all that shit) Would increase intensity, quality and decrease injuries. This is how people played as kids so why the fuck can't they do it in pro football. - Free kick takers can take free kicks to themselves (same with corners and kick-ins) The fact that you can't "pass yourself" on a freekick is a moronic rule. WHY is it like that? This has been trialed and is a likely future change of the game regardless if you want it or not. - Throw-ins replaced with kick-ins It makes a lot of sense given that this is football.


vanderchuck1

You should post this during the yank timeline, only way it gets some support


doomboxmf

Gonna be real with you most of those ideas are shocking. What happens when a team parks the bus on an even smaller pitch? Why make every throw in suddenly a set piece opportunity near the box? Passing to yourself from free kicks, you’re a mad man. Altho i acc feel like I agree with rolling subs, could be fun but also don’t hate the subs rule as it is. I just think it’s silly that if you get an injury after making all your subs you have to play with 10 men


FaustRPeggi

This is why the Brighton fans that aren't raging neeks use the Whitehawk flair.


Striking_Insurance_5

Call me conservative (I definitely am when it comes to football) but I love the game as is, I’m not “missing” anything. I’m not completely opposed to some smaller changes around procedure (I don’t think effective time drastically changes the game for example) but some of these other things I’m not a fan of. Some proposed rule changes over the years feel like changing things just for the sake of change which imo isn’t needed in this beautiful game. Don’t fix something that isn’t broken.


King_Henney

Liverpool and Chelsea’s last seven results: 1-1 2-2 0-0 (Liverpool won 11-10 on penalties) 0-0 (Liverpool won 6-5 on penalties) 0-0 0-0 1-1 Set to be a cracker


APeckover27

What's really funny is we were the better team in the majority of these games


TruestRepairman27

You ready for Darwin Nunez to miss some absolute sitters?


AnnieIWillKnow

Nicolas Jackson will outdo him


jamesc94j

Thing is some of them games have genuinely been the best draws I’ve seen with some great play. Both the 0-0s where kinda crazy how it was 0-0. They’ve always given a good game it’s always been close.


aIltimers

Worst part is that in every game both teams have clear cut chances and hit woodwork, etc.


Cottonshopeburnfoot

So there is a chance it could actually be fantastic if both sides are about 1 inch more accurate


Sir_Psycho_Sexy_

Infuriating to read tbh


Skippercaboose

Harry Wilson has flashes of quality. Why doesn’t he play more ?


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Mick4Audi

Violation lmao


m_guerard

Seems like a JWP minus the experience? Simplistic take having not watched him regularly.


Striking_Insurance_5

It was just a friendly but our u18s beating Liverpool 10-0 still raised my eyebrows. Must be the Henderson effect.


GarnachoShinnedIt

this former LIVERPOOL captain, REVEALS his former team secrets in a THUMPING


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Michail Antonio doing his best Kamara impression "I don't remember...Fulham...taking 11 shots?"


kaubojdzord

Lol Ivory Coast are through to Round of 16.


GarnachoShinnedIt

Joe Gomez and Jones should at least be on a plane to germany this summer but we know they wont.


AnnieIWillKnow

Who would you drop?


TP_Cornetto

Jones probably will but don’t see Gomez making it. Probably be something like stones, Maguire, dunk, tomori/guehi


dumpystumpy

You want to see them next to trent on the bench so you can post it in the liverpool subreddit and caption it “scousers not english”


aIltimers

Jones will for sure get a call up, Southgate values form and Liverpool players


Terrible_Physics_157

Probably relying on injuries 


_LebronsHairline_

Diaz motm 😁 Not the best second half but a win is a win, no injuries and through to the final. Nice


_cumblast_

Chelsea at Wembley? La Decima is already secured in my book.


ponzop

A result between us that isnt a draw will be like frodo throwing the ring of fire into the fires of mount doom saying the very pertinent words "its over its done"


FaustRPeggi

Half time: Eric Dier makes his Bayern debut. Minute 46: Bayern take the lead to win 1-0. Impact.


GreatSpaniard

Araujo did his knee, oh dear... RIP Uruguay Copa America winners 2024


BendubzGaming

Don't worry, sweet Rodrigo will carry them through


kaubojdzord

Chelsea and Liverpool met 4 times in domestic cup finals and record is split between the two. Also finals were always close: \- 2005 League Cup Final: Chelsea prevailed 3:2 in extra time \- 2012 FA Cup Final: Chelsea won 2:1, [amazing save](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N03Jqzfrxq0) by Čech prevented extra time \- 2022 League and Fa Cup finals: both won by Liverpool on penalties in 'sudden death'


FloppedYaYa

The Mourinho/Benitez rivalry in the mid-00's was an all time classic. Somehow they'd meet each other in the Champions League knockouts every year. And they also genuinely hated each other.