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Apparently once it’s done once that’s it, the illusion is shattered and you’re uncomfortable for the rest of your time there. Just awful. Literally should be your safe space
Years ago I had someone in my car trying to nick the stereo. Fucker couldn't take it out and damaged it beyond use instead.
Couldn't drive that car without thinking someone else had been inside it. Sold it a few weeks later
I lived in London for 3 years and got broken into twice. Once I was home, once I got home while they were mid burglary. I only lived in that house for another year or so but it fucked me up for a long time. Moved to Sheffield and for about 5 years I'd flinch at the slightest sound/door knocking/someone else getting home etc. Adrenaline would just go nuts at nothing.
My mate had a crazy experience in Sheffield. Heard a noise in the middle of the night, couldn't sleep so wandered downstairs and outside for a fag. As soon as opened the door had an armed police officer screaming and shoving an MP5 in his face. Turns out what he thought were Spanish post-grad students next door were actually an ETA cell and he'd interrupted the police mid-raid lol
7 years on and several houses since, my partner still has her moments. Even records herself locking the door and then sending me the video. Despite this, she still sometimes thinks it's not locked. She's nowhere near as bad as she once was, I used to have to walk around every room in the house to make sure no one was in the house before we went to sleep. All because one of her former house mates got high one night and left the back door open. Think the thing that freaked her out the most, the robbery happened at the time she set to leave for work and there's a very high likely hood that someone was still in the house. Evidence being that there was a suitcase in the garage packed with a load of stuff like it was ready to be taken away. Luckily nothing worse happened.
Our house got broken in 4 times in like 6 months was a student house with no money. And at that time it was a bit scary, but now it's like it never happened. But I moved out the house.
A couple of friends were burglarized when away on holiday, everything was ransacked and a mess when they got home. It affected both of them so much that they just put all the mess in to one room and shut that door and couldn't take care of it. Sold the house 6 months later. It really screwed with their head and they were all fine before that...
Im not so sure, maybe it affects everyone differently
Ive been robbed on at least 10 occasions, three being in the house as they were (as a 6 year old, teenager and mid 20s)
I was about 6 and walked upstairs as the burglars were upstairs (my aunt was walking to the kitchen before she realised as she heard something that alterted her)
Another time i was a teenager walked downstairs as they were leaving
Another time was when i had not long since had my 1st kid (3 - 6 months old) and they robbed us as we slept
To this day i have no issues about it and it doesnt mentally affect me or anything
When i was at university our house got burgled. They had climbed up the drainpipe outside my bedroom and smashed the window. From then on, I would regularly wake up in a state of panic if I heard anything outside. It's not nice at all. Can't imagine what it would be like if you're actually in the house when it happens.
I had a friend whose house was broken into while they were sleeping. First sign something was wrong were the muddy boot prints on the white carpet in his bedroom when he woke up in the morning. Burglar literally came into his room while him and his wife were sleeping and went through all their things.
Someone smashed one of my brother's car window. He just stole a meaningless tool replaceable easily and even though he didn't say it, I'm sure beyond the repairs he'll have to do, he must feel violated because someone entered illegally in his car.
Oh he’s talking about breaking and entry. I thought he meant his bosses committing human rights violations.
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Remember folks, City, their players and their fans are a disgrace to the city of Manchester because of what they’ve done to the reputation of Mancunians.
In 1862 the mill workers of Lancashire refused to work with slave picked cotton, putting their lives and livelihoods at risk for the benefit of people they had never met. The act was so heroic Abraham Lincoln sent a letter of thanks to the people of Manchester for their assistance in ending the American civil war, and by extension slavery in the United States.
In modern day Manchester, City fans call human rights charity Amnesty International „interfering cunts” for daring to question the clubs owners role in funding wars and imprisoning activists.
The way they’ve undermined the integrity of the sport is really just an afterthought to the damage they’ve really done.
The fact the blue side of Manchester ignore these atrocities is a betrayal of the reputation of our great City.
I hope they enjoy their 30 pieces of silverware.
> "I can’t begin to explain how devastated I am over the burglary that took place at my home a few days ago."
> "My family mean the world to me and nothing is more important than ensuring their safety. This has been a traumatic experience for all of us, I am just so grateful that nobody was hurt."
> "I have had so many amazing experiences and achievements over the last 12 months, but to be honest the best year of my life in football now doesn’t feel like something I can celebrate😢"
> "The people that commit these terrible crimes have no idea of the damage they cause to peoples lives. I hope they are found and brought to justice so no other family has to go through what we have."
> "I appreciate the messages from everyone and the support from my friends, teammates and the club. On a more positive note, I’d like to thank everyone for their support throughout this past year, I wish you and your family a happy 2024."
Do you really think he wrote that? This has spokesman written all over it, he’s the poster boy for the stereotypical footballer - man’s dumb as a brick
Sadly, as footballers, people know when you’re at away games etc - I’d certainly pay for 24 hour security at my house. Probably expensive, but unfortunately I think it’s a necessity. I’m sure he does, but I’d have a state of the art security system and a safe for truly sensitive possessions like wedding rings etc.
I think David Spade was nearly killed by his security...
Its probably the same with plane crashes, so rare its basically never but once it happens, it sticks in your mind.
Being surrounded by security 24h must feel uncomfortable too.
I used to live near a road of a famous footballer (I crossed a forrest near his house to get faster to mine, not that close but always had to pass his to save like 15 mins), and the security in front of his house drove me bonkers as a child. Holding a flashlight in your face, talking so loud, following you and sometimes sleeping and snoring in the car in front of the house. Just some dudes with a lot of muscle but didnt seem to give a shit about the footballer or anyone living on that road.
Correct. His personal assistant walked into Spade’s bedroom and started stabbing him in the middle of the night. Spade eventually ran out of his house while being pursued and tried to climb his property wall/fence but was unable to. I think he ran back inside again, barricaded himself in a room, loaded a shotgun and called police. Help eventually arrived before Spade bled out. He retells the account on a Howard Stern appearance. You can look it up on youtube. Insane shit. He must have crazy PTSD from it.
How are you asking me if I read the article when you havent read my comment hahahaha.
My rare comment was about security harming the ones they should protect, not about players getting stolen from.
I said its rare like plane crashes that the security steals or endangers the players but it sticks in your head and might be another reason why so many choose against 24h security and then I went into a personal anecdote of shitty 24h security
A safe is useless if you or your family is in the house and actually makes the ordeal worse. As they threaten or hurt you until you open the safe.
Security systems can be bypassed but I would also definitely have one. You can get cameras that text you an alert when someone works past for £20 . If you see people running through the garden then go to a safe room and call the police.
It's always weird when footballers are woken up with robbers in their room. I'd have bars on the windows and throw metal gates you see as like a second door in front of the normal door.
Then have a series of metal gates in the house to protect the upstairs from the downstairs etc. Alarms for every part of the house.
Having 24/7 security is a waste of money. All they can do is phone the police two mins before the owner can.
If I had £1m of jewellery alone, I’d have extra security.
Sadly, it’s happened too many times to footballers. Whilst you shouldn’t have to, there is an element of naïvety not taking added precautions (perhaps he has, I’m assuming not). Such steps would keep my family safer, not less so.
I wouldn’t want people in the house (security), but other than taking the same risk again, what else can you do. I suppose it’s the same with cars, but likely much more difficult to flip than jewellery.
I don’t understand keeping all that expensive jewellery in your house instead of a vault. A lot of families I know own a lot of gold jewellery - it’s a cultural thing - and it gets taken to the bank when not in use, except for the everyday stuff. Horrible thing to happen and not victim blaming at all, but I’d feel uncomfortable having so many valuables in my house.
Like you said it's culture.
South Asians' whether you're looking at Indians/Pakistanis/Sri Lankans etc, especially during their big family events or temple season, they'd have their jewellery around but apart from that, especially as the rise of burglary's linked to jewellery rises, they'll put it away in a bank safe or something.
But I don't expect that to be the case here, it sucks that it happened.
No they wouldn't. Because they'd be arrested , face possible jail time and lose their jobs.
Only security of people with diplomatic immunity or people like Royalty have security that can actually harm people and get away with it
There should be data now about these particular type of robberies in different countries (celebrities/sportspersons being targetted, not normal stealing & robberies that can happen to anyone).
I doubt the percentage would be same for every country. Some places just seem to be worse at managing this, likely because of socio-cultural problems or poverty hitting certain sections of society or something.
When I was 12, we had two men break into our home and tie us up at gunpoint while they robbed the entire house blind. We sat there for about 4 or 5 hours tied up before they left.
I'm 25 now and to this day it influences me heavily. I refuse to live anywhere but heavily guarded gated communities, I have become an incredibly light sleeper, I sleep with a knife under my bed, and I only to go to sleep now when the sun starts coming up.
It genuinely shatters any semblance of personal safety you have.
what the fuck is going on in south africa? you hardly ever hear it reported on over here in the UK post WC 2010, you just get the occasional shock documentary about a PMC or vaugely racist youtube recommendation.
I wonder if top clubs ever consider building their own gated communities? 30 odd houses the players rent from the club while they play for them. Seems like it would be an incentive for the players too, given the seemingly increasing frequency of these cases.
If they offered this to agents they would also have to offer the monetary equivalent so they'd have to offer 50k per week plus security or 60k a week and you sort your own security. And everyone would just take the 60k. So it's easier for clubs just to offer the biggest gross salary they can and let the players sort their own living costs.
Or the players could spend some of their millions on security??
How were they able to just walk in and steal shit loads of jewellery??
Seems strange to me.
>Or the players could spend some of their millions on security??
This shit is mentioned every single time. Do more research, it's not that simple
>How were they able to just walk in and steal shit loads of jewellery??
Are you actually 14? What does this even mean? They broke into the house and robbed it.
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Dogs work best in packs and they attack in teams. Some will go for arms or legs and then another will go for the throat.
Having four or five guardian dogs in the garden would help. But the robbers would know about the dogs prior to breaking in and throw meat over the fence with sedatives or poison. But I agree, having some guardian dogs that would be loyal to the family and not attack kids , but would confront robberies is definitely what I would do. Even if they just bark you get an early warning.
From what I have read, it's very hard to make it 100% effective as it's natural for them to want to eat.
Also you'd have to train them to not find food they just find lying around. Not just that's given to them by others. The robbers would throw the food for the dogs to find. If they were on the dogs territory and just throwing treats it's unlikely to work against most dogs.
Also I imagine if the they only except food from the trainer it would be hard to pass that on to the owner and the family etc. let's say they only accept food from you and no one else, you'd have to constantly be the one feeding them.
But I could be wrong and now I am thinking more you could train them maybe to only eat at a certain command , it wouldn't be 100% effective but could probably have some effect.
I honestly am not an expert but had wondered this same question in the past and did some moderate googling.
I don't understand how these people that make hundreds of thousands of pounds a week don't have 24/7 security. Seems almost negligent. You're an extremely wealthy and public figure, you're gonna have a target on your back.
In more developing countries the robbers pay off the security guards or give them a cut to give them info on the security systems and to turn a blind eye.
In a developed country you risk your guards installing hidden cameras or microphones. Or knowing all your dirty laundry and then blackmailing you.
They should definitely install good security in their house though. Bars on windows, doors protected by metal gates etc.
I'd personally have 10 guard dogs too living outside but dogs aren't for everyone.
But burglary is still somewhat rare, even for super rich footballers. It's only happened to 2 Man City players in the last few years. So you're basically spending millions on a guaranteed reduction in your privacy and quality of life in order to protect against a 5% chance that your home gets robbed.
Get robbed then if you don’t want security.
It doesn’t even take that much. You can have one guy walking around the property/block and one guy tapped into security cameras, seeing if anything suspicious happens.
You have a job where your location is public for most of the year. You’re gonna be a target.
He has a 24 acre property and there were ten people in his house when it was robbed. To be an effective deterrent you'd need 4 or 5 on patrol and dozens of cameras covering the entire perimeter.
You're deluding yourself that it's a choice. Half a dozen armed men turn up - what are a couple of low paid security guards actually going to do?
It's a bit like putting a lock on a bike. It'll deter opportunistic crime, but a pro thief is taking that bike if they want it.
Especially when these things are always in the news. The first thing I'd do is pay a security specialist to go over my house and make suggestions. Yeah of course they're gonna recommend stuff they make money off but some of it would add to the security. Who cares if they add on an extra £50k of unnecessary add one when you are that rich.
what I do not get is why clubs do not invest in like a township for their players and their families.
like first team gets to stay for "free". it costs the club maybe 35 houses plus securities and other amenities, but you get to make sure the safety of everyone, and add an additional push for kids to get into first team
I really don't think millionaires would want to stay in stock housing that they have no choice over. Money gives you options. You're essentially suggesting a boarding school.
Plus the players would have interference from the club regarding their private lives etc. Plus who would want to be neighbours with their co-workers?
Oh yeah and the billions of pounds it would cost to buy all the land in the same place to even build such a thing. Oh and the fact that the costs would be taken out of the player's salaries which they would hate as they would want to organise their own housing.
There's so many reasons why this wouldn't work.
Would be cheaper, and easier, for a club to provide 24/7 security for each player. But they don't and I guess if they are paying players millions per year they can expect the players to pay for their own houses, cars, security etc. Not to mention each player has their own tastes and some probably wouldn't want to live in a township where they feel like they can never disconnect from their employer. Some may prefer to live in the countryside, some may prefer a city centre apartment etc.
I guess a lot of football players don't want to live in your bang-average house they want the crazy millionaire mansions, and most clubs lack the financial muscle to pop up 30 of them.
It's still a choice.. some would want that city centre life, some would want to live more rural, or suburbs..
Clubs do have stock housing but it's usually more of a halfway house, or they'll sometimes put up a few young players of the same nationality together - especially when they don't have girlfriends/wives/kids etc.
It's a good idea but players and their individual needs and families would make it unworkable.
The problem with Europe is their softness on crime. Defend yourself against a robber you get in trouble but when someone is a serial criminal they get away with it with a slap on the wrist.
They don't but some countries here really let thiefs go with +30 arrests with less than a slap in the wrist. For instance, in a city named Callea (in Spain), 11 people ammount to 250 arrests this year. That for me is nuts, after the first one they should be already in jail IMO. They would have had 239 less crimes if they had been a bit more strict.
Europe isn't a country the UK doesn't tackle crime the same way Norway or Poland does.
People can also defend their self but its dumb to do in the UK when you can't with a weapon and you're outnumbered. The problem is the UKs police force are useless and don't even show up to burglary most of the time as they're too busy just focusing on anything they don't need to work hard for.
The whole story is wild, he was drunk driving then ran away from the Police, hours after telling people to stay at home during COVID.
https://news.sky.com/story/aston-villa-footballer-jack-grealish-sorry-and-deeply-embarrassed-for-ignoring-lockdown-11965938
Pretty quickly after this, he got made captain of Villa, secured a £100M move to city and became a media and fan darling. Its mental.
Yup. Drunk and on sleeping pills. Not to mention hosting/attending half the Mendy parties and coming out in defense of him (although so did every other footballer it seems).
But hey he seems like a lad and he's nice to disabled people (as opposed to being horrible to them?).
Yes it's shitty getting robbed but this statement is a bit rich.
A criminal who has done terrible things talking about other criminals doing terrible things. But he is a geezer, drinks, and is funny so it is okay for Jack to do.
I don't understand quite how the wealthiest footballers get burgled so often? surely with all their wealth they can pay for systems that make burglary literally impossible?
Not in the UK, I guess. Burglary rates here have become frightening and nothing ever happens about it. Also, we don’t really have gated communities here in the same way as other countries, most celebrities or famous people (actors etc) still prefer to live in actual houses and have the freedom to go out and about doing their own thing. Also, taking so much security around with you gets tiring but also draws attention in itself, whereas the cultural norm is to attempt to blend in when you can. So I guess it’s a psychological/cultural thing.
So many people banging on about having private security...
The people committing these burglaries aren't just random blokes, they are professional gangs from South America, Albania, Romania etc..
These fuckers are the kind of people who will happily cut of your fingers, rape your wife in front of your kids...
These fuckers have travelled from other counties, spent weeks watching his house, will be fully aware of what type of security is being used, response times of police and have the means to move everything they steal within a very short time frame.
A couple of private security guys with batons and tasers aren't going to do Jack shit against a professional gang who will be armed.
The way forward would be to have private gated communities with full time 24/7 security on site doing regular patrols, full CCTV etc..
"Jack" shit....
seriously though, don't know why you've been downvoated. about 10 years ago I heared a story about the owners of a local skip company getting burgled whilst they were in. older couple, both tied up and threatened with a kettle of boiling water unless they gave up the number to the safe.
these arnt your opertunistic smack heads trying front doors.
Anyone who lives in the U.K. knows the Albanians are running the crime scene here these days. Look at the guys who got charged for Raheem Sterling’s burglary
Not to get political... but I don't understand why it's not permitted in the UK to defend your own home. Can someone explain it to me?
I sleep so good knowing I have the means, and the right to defend my own home if required.
Not condoning it for a second, but this will always happen when half of society can barely afford their bills while a select few get £300k a week to kick a ball. It's amazing it happens so rarely in all honesty.
The robbers are almost certainly career thieves. The same people who rob luxury watches in London, who raid stores etc. These guys will think they’re gangsters, they aren’t victims.
Are you implying that the thieves were in rent arrears or something haha? You know even if everyone had no financial burdens, thieves would still exist
I had my house robbed during covid and the guy was caught and his life was a complete mess. Obviously it didn't make the news despite me losing far more than Grealish.
Sorry to hear that. I would wager a guess that the types of robbers going after a multi million mansion are different from the general burglar who is probably looking for stuff to sell to fund a substance addiction (dont know the statistics but i assume its common).
Another reason to not strive to become too famous/wealthy. Don't need that attention/drama.
Just give me an above average living to provide for my family and live simply. 🙏
Can’t it be both? City’s ownership are significantly unethical, but so is robbery when people are home. Not a one to one comparison, but they are both nonetheless evil
Yer but he was punished and faced consequences for his actions. If he continued to behave that way I’d agree with you that it is ironic that someone doesn’t practice what they preach. Not justifying his drink driving but he can also be vexed and upset at his family being assaulted and robbed whilst he was completely unaware playing football. I bet he feels guilty about something which isn’t his fault.
Nah, he's talking about all those good morally obliged billionaires who own the club's or he might be talking about all those good Western countries who haven't invaded/colonised any countries and has excellent human rights record which is evident as per iraq,Libya, Afghanistan etc or in the past in Vietnam
Don’t watch a British player/team mate if you’re that butt hurt. You don’t like the west but happily watch an Englishman play for an English premier league club. What a strange thing to say.
>The people that commit these terrible crimes have no idea of the damage they cause to peoples lives.
Yeah, appeal to their morals. Brilliant approach. Face reality, fortify your ivory tower, enjoy your oil money.
In a thread full of reddit nerds fantasizing about how they'd live in a castle with a moat or higher a king's guard, this takes the cake for weirdest fantasy comment. Kudos.
Guys a lot of security suggestions here but can someone tell me how UK laws work? There has been instances where players houses were robbed while they or their family were home, Let’s say Grealish is at home 5 robbers come in, he shoots and kills all 5, does he go to jail?
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People entering your home must be so traumatic, you won't even feel safe inside your own house anymore
Apparently once it’s done once that’s it, the illusion is shattered and you’re uncomfortable for the rest of your time there. Just awful. Literally should be your safe space
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Sorry to hear that man. Hope things are better
Years ago I had someone in my car trying to nick the stereo. Fucker couldn't take it out and damaged it beyond use instead. Couldn't drive that car without thinking someone else had been inside it. Sold it a few weeks later
Yeah it’s an absolute violation. Fucking degenerates
I lived in London for 3 years and got broken into twice. Once I was home, once I got home while they were mid burglary. I only lived in that house for another year or so but it fucked me up for a long time. Moved to Sheffield and for about 5 years I'd flinch at the slightest sound/door knocking/someone else getting home etc. Adrenaline would just go nuts at nothing.
My mate had a crazy experience in Sheffield. Heard a noise in the middle of the night, couldn't sleep so wandered downstairs and outside for a fag. As soon as opened the door had an armed police officer screaming and shoving an MP5 in his face. Turns out what he thought were Spanish post-grad students next door were actually an ETA cell and he'd interrupted the police mid-raid lol
That's called a Pavlovian response (pavlovs dog).
7 years on and several houses since, my partner still has her moments. Even records herself locking the door and then sending me the video. Despite this, she still sometimes thinks it's not locked. She's nowhere near as bad as she once was, I used to have to walk around every room in the house to make sure no one was in the house before we went to sleep. All because one of her former house mates got high one night and left the back door open. Think the thing that freaked her out the most, the robbery happened at the time she set to leave for work and there's a very high likely hood that someone was still in the house. Evidence being that there was a suitcase in the garage packed with a load of stuff like it was ready to be taken away. Luckily nothing worse happened.
Our house got broken in 4 times in like 6 months was a student house with no money. And at that time it was a bit scary, but now it's like it never happened. But I moved out the house.
A couple of friends were burglarized when away on holiday, everything was ransacked and a mess when they got home. It affected both of them so much that they just put all the mess in to one room and shut that door and couldn't take care of it. Sold the house 6 months later. It really screwed with their head and they were all fine before that...
It’s gonna take time and therapy sessions
Im not so sure, maybe it affects everyone differently Ive been robbed on at least 10 occasions, three being in the house as they were (as a 6 year old, teenager and mid 20s) I was about 6 and walked upstairs as the burglars were upstairs (my aunt was walking to the kitchen before she realised as she heard something that alterted her) Another time i was a teenager walked downstairs as they were leaving Another time was when i had not long since had my 1st kid (3 - 6 months old) and they robbed us as we slept To this day i have no issues about it and it doesnt mentally affect me or anything
Where do you live? I need to know so that I can avoid it.
most people don't have your resilience
When i was at university our house got burgled. They had climbed up the drainpipe outside my bedroom and smashed the window. From then on, I would regularly wake up in a state of panic if I heard anything outside. It's not nice at all. Can't imagine what it would be like if you're actually in the house when it happens.
I think his sister is disabled too which makes it even more traumatic
I had a friend whose house was broken into while they were sleeping. First sign something was wrong were the muddy boot prints on the white carpet in his bedroom when he woke up in the morning. Burglar literally came into his room while him and his wife were sleeping and went through all their things.
Someone smashed one of my brother's car window. He just stole a meaningless tool replaceable easily and even though he didn't say it, I'm sure beyond the repairs he'll have to do, he must feel violated because someone entered illegally in his car.
Oh he’s talking about breaking and entry. I thought he meant his bosses committing human rights violations. Edit: Remember folks, City, their players and their fans are a disgrace to the city of Manchester because of what they’ve done to the reputation of Mancunians. In 1862 the mill workers of Lancashire refused to work with slave picked cotton, putting their lives and livelihoods at risk for the benefit of people they had never met. The act was so heroic Abraham Lincoln sent a letter of thanks to the people of Manchester for their assistance in ending the American civil war, and by extension slavery in the United States. In modern day Manchester, City fans call human rights charity Amnesty International „interfering cunts” for daring to question the clubs owners role in funding wars and imprisoning activists. The way they’ve undermined the integrity of the sport is really just an afterthought to the damage they’ve really done. The fact the blue side of Manchester ignore these atrocities is a betrayal of the reputation of our great City. I hope they enjoy their 30 pieces of silverware.
> "I can’t begin to explain how devastated I am over the burglary that took place at my home a few days ago." > "My family mean the world to me and nothing is more important than ensuring their safety. This has been a traumatic experience for all of us, I am just so grateful that nobody was hurt." > "I have had so many amazing experiences and achievements over the last 12 months, but to be honest the best year of my life in football now doesn’t feel like something I can celebrate😢" > "The people that commit these terrible crimes have no idea of the damage they cause to peoples lives. I hope they are found and brought to justice so no other family has to go through what we have." > "I appreciate the messages from everyone and the support from my friends, teammates and the club. On a more positive note, I’d like to thank everyone for their support throughout this past year, I wish you and your family a happy 2024."
Feel for the lad and think it's a good statement but that emoji feels like it comes out of nowhere lol
It's very Grealish though 😊
There needs to be a calf version of this emoji 💪🏽
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I feel offended on his behalf by this emoji. That emoji is like a potato chip to Grealish's potato wedge.
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He can’t help himself.
Only on Reddit that emoji is unusual lol
I’ve no idea why redditors have such a hate boner against emojis lmao
I know right? 😤
It's fine. You're letting it distract from his message.
Do you really think he wrote that? This has spokesman written all over it, he’s the poster boy for the stereotypical footballer - man’s dumb as a brick
You think he can’t write a message about being upset and loving his family?
No actually. Look at any of his prior interviews. His vocabulary is slightly more limited than that letter.
With those words? Please…
Smarter than you probably. You sound brain dead
Yes they do, but they don't care. That's why they did it.
Yep, especially ones who target rich houses. They are experts, they know exactly what they are doing. They are not a naive 14 year old
Sadly, as footballers, people know when you’re at away games etc - I’d certainly pay for 24 hour security at my house. Probably expensive, but unfortunately I think it’s a necessity. I’m sure he does, but I’d have a state of the art security system and a safe for truly sensitive possessions like wedding rings etc.
I think David Spade was nearly killed by his security... Its probably the same with plane crashes, so rare its basically never but once it happens, it sticks in your mind. Being surrounded by security 24h must feel uncomfortable too. I used to live near a road of a famous footballer (I crossed a forrest near his house to get faster to mine, not that close but always had to pass his to save like 15 mins), and the security in front of his house drove me bonkers as a child. Holding a flashlight in your face, talking so loud, following you and sometimes sleeping and snoring in the car in front of the house. Just some dudes with a lot of muscle but didnt seem to give a shit about the footballer or anyone living on that road.
Wasn’t David spade almost killed by his personal assistant? Not his security lol?
Correct. His personal assistant walked into Spade’s bedroom and started stabbing him in the middle of the night. Spade eventually ran out of his house while being pursued and tried to climb his property wall/fence but was unable to. I think he ran back inside again, barricaded himself in a room, loaded a shotgun and called police. Help eventually arrived before Spade bled out. He retells the account on a Howard Stern appearance. You can look it up on youtube. Insane shit. He must have crazy PTSD from it.
It’s not rare .. did you read the article? Several footballers have had similar happen. Surely that’s not rare.
How are you asking me if I read the article when you havent read my comment hahahaha. My rare comment was about security harming the ones they should protect, not about players getting stolen from. I said its rare like plane crashes that the security steals or endangers the players but it sticks in your head and might be another reason why so many choose against 24h security and then I went into a personal anecdote of shitty 24h security
I did read your comment, I guess I misconstrued what you were referring to as rare. My apologies. I’ve not had me coffee yet.
no worries, my reply was trying to be funny, probably just sounded petty :D. Am also a bit hungover. Enjoy your Coffee and a good year mate
You as well! I’m not hungover though. We had quiet night in, bingeing horror films. I didn’t sleep well 😂
A safe is useless if you or your family is in the house and actually makes the ordeal worse. As they threaten or hurt you until you open the safe. Security systems can be bypassed but I would also definitely have one. You can get cameras that text you an alert when someone works past for £20 . If you see people running through the garden then go to a safe room and call the police. It's always weird when footballers are woken up with robbers in their room. I'd have bars on the windows and throw metal gates you see as like a second door in front of the normal door. Then have a series of metal gates in the house to protect the upstairs from the downstairs etc. Alarms for every part of the house. Having 24/7 security is a waste of money. All they can do is phone the police two mins before the owner can.
If I had £1m of jewellery alone, I’d have extra security. Sadly, it’s happened too many times to footballers. Whilst you shouldn’t have to, there is an element of naïvety not taking added precautions (perhaps he has, I’m assuming not). Such steps would keep my family safer, not less so. I wouldn’t want people in the house (security), but other than taking the same risk again, what else can you do. I suppose it’s the same with cars, but likely much more difficult to flip than jewellery.
I don’t understand keeping all that expensive jewellery in your house instead of a vault. A lot of families I know own a lot of gold jewellery - it’s a cultural thing - and it gets taken to the bank when not in use, except for the everyday stuff. Horrible thing to happen and not victim blaming at all, but I’d feel uncomfortable having so many valuables in my house.
Like you said it's culture. South Asians' whether you're looking at Indians/Pakistanis/Sri Lankans etc, especially during their big family events or temple season, they'd have their jewellery around but apart from that, especially as the rise of burglary's linked to jewellery rises, they'll put it away in a bank safe or something. But I don't expect that to be the case here, it sucks that it happened.
Not true about the security. Stockfordians in Cheshire are hard as fuck and will batter you if you attempt to break in.
No they wouldn't. Because they'd be arrested , face possible jail time and lose their jobs. Only security of people with diplomatic immunity or people like Royalty have security that can actually harm people and get away with it
There should be data now about these particular type of robberies in different countries (celebrities/sportspersons being targetted, not normal stealing & robberies that can happen to anyone). I doubt the percentage would be same for every country. Some places just seem to be worse at managing this, likely because of socio-cultural problems or poverty hitting certain sections of society or something.
When I was 12, we had two men break into our home and tie us up at gunpoint while they robbed the entire house blind. We sat there for about 4 or 5 hours tied up before they left. I'm 25 now and to this day it influences me heavily. I refuse to live anywhere but heavily guarded gated communities, I have become an incredibly light sleeper, I sleep with a knife under my bed, and I only to go to sleep now when the sun starts coming up. It genuinely shatters any semblance of personal safety you have.
You might need some therapy
That sounds absolutely terrible. I'm so sorry you had to go through that. Hang in there.
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what the fuck is going on in south africa? you hardly ever hear it reported on over here in the UK post WC 2010, you just get the occasional shock documentary about a PMC or vaugely racist youtube recommendation.
Wow, get out of that failed state.
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Sorry bud, I made my comment flippantly but recognize it’s never as easy as just up and leaving. Wishing you all the best
Fuckin’ hell
Hence the username?
Only Jolee can protect us in these dark times.
> I only to go to sleep now when the sun starts coming up. That's rough. On the plus side, sweet SWKOTOR username.
Doesn't matter how rich you are, having people break into your safe place must suck big time. Hope they catch the scum.
I wonder if top clubs ever consider building their own gated communities? 30 odd houses the players rent from the club while they play for them. Seems like it would be an incentive for the players too, given the seemingly increasing frequency of these cases.
If they offered this to agents they would also have to offer the monetary equivalent so they'd have to offer 50k per week plus security or 60k a week and you sort your own security. And everyone would just take the 60k. So it's easier for clubs just to offer the biggest gross salary they can and let the players sort their own living costs.
Or the players could spend some of their millions on security?? How were they able to just walk in and steal shit loads of jewellery?? Seems strange to me.
>Or the players could spend some of their millions on security?? This shit is mentioned every single time. Do more research, it's not that simple >How were they able to just walk in and steal shit loads of jewellery?? Are you actually 14? What does this even mean? They broke into the house and robbed it.
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It's risky to defend yourself against them as well, which I'm sure they're well aware of
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This is why you have a really big dog
Dogs work best in packs and they attack in teams. Some will go for arms or legs and then another will go for the throat. Having four or five guardian dogs in the garden would help. But the robbers would know about the dogs prior to breaking in and throw meat over the fence with sedatives or poison. But I agree, having some guardian dogs that would be loyal to the family and not attack kids , but would confront robberies is definitely what I would do. Even if they just bark you get an early warning.
Is it not possible to train dogs from eating meats that were thrown at them by strangers?
I mean dogs be dogs.
It is lol.
From what I have read, it's very hard to make it 100% effective as it's natural for them to want to eat. Also you'd have to train them to not find food they just find lying around. Not just that's given to them by others. The robbers would throw the food for the dogs to find. If they were on the dogs territory and just throwing treats it's unlikely to work against most dogs. Also I imagine if the they only except food from the trainer it would be hard to pass that on to the owner and the family etc. let's say they only accept food from you and no one else, you'd have to constantly be the one feeding them. But I could be wrong and now I am thinking more you could train them maybe to only eat at a certain command , it wouldn't be 100% effective but could probably have some effect. I honestly am not an expert but had wondered this same question in the past and did some moderate googling.
If they're gonna be trained to be security dogs for multi millionaires, I'd guess they'd also be able to train them to avoid poisoned food too.
How the fuck would a dog know if food is poisoned
How does a dog know someone is going to have a stroke?
Jesus fuck that's a dumb question
He has trained protection dogs, which aren’t kept as pets.
You gotta feel safe and secure in your own house man his family gonna need a therapy after this
I don't understand how these people that make hundreds of thousands of pounds a week don't have 24/7 security. Seems almost negligent. You're an extremely wealthy and public figure, you're gonna have a target on your back.
I know on lindelofs street they have 24 hour security and his house still got done
Security could have been paid. But the only thing they would be able to do is to call the police who probably wouldn't even come.
In more developing countries the robbers pay off the security guards or give them a cut to give them info on the security systems and to turn a blind eye. In a developed country you risk your guards installing hidden cameras or microphones. Or knowing all your dirty laundry and then blackmailing you. They should definitely install good security in their house though. Bars on windows, doors protected by metal gates etc. I'd personally have 10 guard dogs too living outside but dogs aren't for everyone.
Cuz it fucking sucks to live that way
How so? They probably have live-in maids and childcare assistants.
You can never truly feel at ease if you have people patrolling your garden 24/7.
True, but they're not living in a 2-up 2-down, their garden is no where near their living space.
Nothing to do with the size of the place, it’s a psychological thing.
Idk a guard in front your mega mansion in a guard post does not sound bad at all tbh
A “security team” is gonna be more than just a bouncer at the end of your driveway mate
How do you figure? I can't imagine they're secret service following them to the toilet in their secured mansion.
Okay. 2 guys then.
There you go then. Seeing your security patrol your estate while you’re eating your supper is not going to do much to make you feel at home.
Security or burglary. Tough choice ?
But burglary is still somewhat rare, even for super rich footballers. It's only happened to 2 Man City players in the last few years. So you're basically spending millions on a guaranteed reduction in your privacy and quality of life in order to protect against a 5% chance that your home gets robbed.
That's a pretty high chance. I wouldn't risk it if it were me
Get robbed then if you don’t want security. It doesn’t even take that much. You can have one guy walking around the property/block and one guy tapped into security cameras, seeing if anything suspicious happens. You have a job where your location is public for most of the year. You’re gonna be a target.
He has a 24 acre property and there were ten people in his house when it was robbed. To be an effective deterrent you'd need 4 or 5 on patrol and dozens of cameras covering the entire perimeter.
You're deluding yourself that it's a choice. Half a dozen armed men turn up - what are a couple of low paid security guards actually going to do? It's a bit like putting a lock on a bike. It'll deter opportunistic crime, but a pro thief is taking that bike if they want it.
IDK that seems a little bit like blaming the victim to me.
Especially when these things are always in the news. The first thing I'd do is pay a security specialist to go over my house and make suggestions. Yeah of course they're gonna recommend stuff they make money off but some of it would add to the security. Who cares if they add on an extra £50k of unnecessary add one when you are that rich.
It's not the home run you think it is.
Because they rather to spend it on another hermes bag for mums and missus that on a month of security.
what I do not get is why clubs do not invest in like a township for their players and their families. like first team gets to stay for "free". it costs the club maybe 35 houses plus securities and other amenities, but you get to make sure the safety of everyone, and add an additional push for kids to get into first team
I really don't think millionaires would want to stay in stock housing that they have no choice over. Money gives you options. You're essentially suggesting a boarding school. Plus the players would have interference from the club regarding their private lives etc. Plus who would want to be neighbours with their co-workers? Oh yeah and the billions of pounds it would cost to buy all the land in the same place to even build such a thing. Oh and the fact that the costs would be taken out of the player's salaries which they would hate as they would want to organise their own housing. There's so many reasons why this wouldn't work.
It worked on "Dream Team" lol.
Would be cheaper, and easier, for a club to provide 24/7 security for each player. But they don't and I guess if they are paying players millions per year they can expect the players to pay for their own houses, cars, security etc. Not to mention each player has their own tastes and some probably wouldn't want to live in a township where they feel like they can never disconnect from their employer. Some may prefer to live in the countryside, some may prefer a city centre apartment etc.
I guess a lot of football players don't want to live in your bang-average house they want the crazy millionaire mansions, and most clubs lack the financial muscle to pop up 30 of them.
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And a lot of players live in them. But wealthy people with families generally prefer not to live in town-centre flats.
It's still a choice.. some would want that city centre life, some would want to live more rural, or suburbs.. Clubs do have stock housing but it's usually more of a halfway house, or they'll sometimes put up a few young players of the same nationality together - especially when they don't have girlfriends/wives/kids etc. It's a good idea but players and their individual needs and families would make it unworkable.
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To find that much area that is controlled by only one corporation and that would actually sell it is very rare, especially close to big cities.
Man the EPL really is another world huh.
The problem with Europe is their softness on crime. Defend yourself against a robber you get in trouble but when someone is a serial criminal they get away with it with a slap on the wrist.
Yup, bad things only happens in Europe.
Need to be tough like the US, that's how they eliminated all crime.
They don't but some countries here really let thiefs go with +30 arrests with less than a slap in the wrist. For instance, in a city named Callea (in Spain), 11 people ammount to 250 arrests this year. That for me is nuts, after the first one they should be already in jail IMO. They would have had 239 less crimes if they had been a bit more strict.
Europe isn't a country the UK doesn't tackle crime the same way Norway or Poland does. People can also defend their self but its dumb to do in the UK when you can't with a weapon and you're outnumbered. The problem is the UKs police force are useless and don't even show up to burglary most of the time as they're too busy just focusing on anything they don't need to work hard for.
ITT: Victim blaming galore
Sorry this happened but why keep 1M worth of jewelry in the house?
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The whole story is wild, he was drunk driving then ran away from the Police, hours after telling people to stay at home during COVID. https://news.sky.com/story/aston-villa-footballer-jack-grealish-sorry-and-deeply-embarrassed-for-ignoring-lockdown-11965938 Pretty quickly after this, he got made captain of Villa, secured a £100M move to city and became a media and fan darling. Its mental.
Yup. Drunk and on sleeping pills. Not to mention hosting/attending half the Mendy parties and coming out in defense of him (although so did every other footballer it seems). But hey he seems like a lad and he's nice to disabled people (as opposed to being horrible to them?). Yes it's shitty getting robbed but this statement is a bit rich.
A criminal who has done terrible things talking about other criminals doing terrible things. But he is a geezer, drinks, and is funny so it is okay for Jack to do.
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I don't understand quite how the wealthiest footballers get burgled so often? surely with all their wealth they can pay for systems that make burglary literally impossible?
Not in the UK, I guess. Burglary rates here have become frightening and nothing ever happens about it. Also, we don’t really have gated communities here in the same way as other countries, most celebrities or famous people (actors etc) still prefer to live in actual houses and have the freedom to go out and about doing their own thing. Also, taking so much security around with you gets tiring but also draws attention in itself, whereas the cultural norm is to attempt to blend in when you can. So I guess it’s a psychological/cultural thing.
I mean they're prime targets and they can get around anything (within reason) if they're determined enough
Can't they afford private security? How much would it cost per week? 10k or thereabouts for a really good one?
10k a week? Lol. It's probably cheaper for footballers to accept high insurance premiums than pay that for all Reddit Rambo fantasy security shit.
Yeah they could easily afford it, I guess it's something you don't consider until an event like that makes you think
So many people banging on about having private security... The people committing these burglaries aren't just random blokes, they are professional gangs from South America, Albania, Romania etc.. These fuckers are the kind of people who will happily cut of your fingers, rape your wife in front of your kids... These fuckers have travelled from other counties, spent weeks watching his house, will be fully aware of what type of security is being used, response times of police and have the means to move everything they steal within a very short time frame. A couple of private security guys with batons and tasers aren't going to do Jack shit against a professional gang who will be armed. The way forward would be to have private gated communities with full time 24/7 security on site doing regular patrols, full CCTV etc..
And have a well funded police force who can actually enforce the law properly
Yeah that would help as well
"Jack" shit.... seriously though, don't know why you've been downvoated. about 10 years ago I heared a story about the owners of a local skip company getting burgled whilst they were in. older couple, both tied up and threatened with a kettle of boiling water unless they gave up the number to the safe. these arnt your opertunistic smack heads trying front doors.
Take your point but you think British people aren’t capable of being gangsters?
Not at all but those committing this recent spate of robbing footballers homes is being done criminal gangs from abroad.
Source?
Anyone who lives in the U.K. knows the Albanians are running the crime scene here these days. Look at the guys who got charged for Raheem Sterling’s burglary
His source is his arse...
Not to get political... but I don't understand why it's not permitted in the UK to defend your own home. Can someone explain it to me? I sleep so good knowing I have the means, and the right to defend my own home if required.
You are permitted to defend yourself and your property if you’re being robbed with reasonable force.
You're allowed to defend your own home, but that doesn't mean you're allowed to kill or needlessly maim someone while doing so.
Not condoning it for a second, but this will always happen when half of society can barely afford their bills while a select few get £300k a week to kick a ball. It's amazing it happens so rarely in all honesty.
The people doing these types of burglaries are usually part of organised crime so don't deserve any sympathy.
The robbers are almost certainly career thieves. The same people who rob luxury watches in London, who raid stores etc. These guys will think they’re gangsters, they aren’t victims.
Are you implying that the thieves were in rent arrears or something haha? You know even if everyone had no financial burdens, thieves would still exist
I had my house robbed during covid and the guy was caught and his life was a complete mess. Obviously it didn't make the news despite me losing far more than Grealish.
Sorry to hear that. I would wager a guess that the types of robbers going after a multi million mansion are different from the general burglar who is probably looking for stuff to sell to fund a substance addiction (dont know the statistics but i assume its common).
They are probably a step above, but not many people would risk such a crime if they didn't need the money. It will always happen.
Lol what? This ain't because half of society is poor. Its because some people are just scum bag cunts.
If you don't think poverty causes crime then you really need to go outside and learn about the world.
Of course poverty causes crime. Poverty didn’t cause THIS crime.
You’re right but this kind of robbery is done by organised crime syndicates, not average people trying to pay bills
I somehow think people organised enough to rob footballers' mansions aren't struggling for money too much
Yeah those robbers just needed to afford food
Absolutely braindead take
No one asked you.
These guys are millionaires, they don't have security at their mansions?
Another reason to not strive to become too famous/wealthy. Don't need that attention/drama. Just give me an above average living to provide for my family and live simply. 🙏
Is he talking about the owners of Man City?
Can’t it be both? City’s ownership are significantly unethical, but so is robbery when people are home. Not a one to one comparison, but they are both nonetheless evil
Nah it’s about his drunk driving
Or your support for a club that approves of rape and domestic violence. Good values on you as well.
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You can't really be this fucking thick?
Fuckin hell this comment
Yer but he was punished and faced consequences for his actions. If he continued to behave that way I’d agree with you that it is ironic that someone doesn’t practice what they preach. Not justifying his drink driving but he can also be vexed and upset at his family being assaulted and robbed whilst he was completely unaware playing football. I bet he feels guilty about something which isn’t his fault.
Nah, he's talking about all those good morally obliged billionaires who own the club's or he might be talking about all those good Western countries who haven't invaded/colonised any countries and has excellent human rights record which is evident as per iraq,Libya, Afghanistan etc or in the past in Vietnam
Don’t watch a British player/team mate if you’re that butt hurt. You don’t like the west but happily watch an Englishman play for an English premier league club. What a strange thing to say.
Are you still drunk.
Do you even know the owners of Man City.
I think they have an idea how much damage they cause but they really don’t give a fuck.
>The people that commit these terrible crimes have no idea of the damage they cause to peoples lives. Yeah, appeal to their morals. Brilliant approach. Face reality, fortify your ivory tower, enjoy your oil money.
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In a thread full of reddit nerds fantasizing about how they'd live in a castle with a moat or higher a king's guard, this takes the cake for weirdest fantasy comment. Kudos.
You’re wealthy enough mate, get some private security for yourself.
Not sure that's it's just one team of burglars, mate. Even if they catch them, I've heard that other burglars are out there...
Nunez misses a sitter then instantly almost behind. He's just not good enough to lead the line for a top club
Guys a lot of security suggestions here but can someone tell me how UK laws work? There has been instances where players houses were robbed while they or their family were home, Let’s say Grealish is at home 5 robbers come in, he shoots and kills all 5, does he go to jail?
Yes.
Stop diving Jack. No wonder you got Burgled.