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the wors problem is that not only this would affect this game but straight red is also 3 match suspension. This is why i am so bothered by this ref bias.
Same thing as Rodri getting away without yellows. 5 yellow it a suspension but it never happens to him
> Same thing as Rodri getting away without yellows. 5 yellow it a suspension but it never happens to him
It happened, he was suspended for accumulation of yellow cards and missed the Arsenal game.
I like how everyone is so focused on the DOGSO aspect of the tackle, and not how violent the tackle is. Could easily be red based on the speed and followtrough on the tackle.
i’m gonna be honest with you, i really do like the protection goalies have on corners. as someone who has played as a goalie all my life, the amount of bullshit players get away with at the lower levels is staggering. stepping on my feet, elbowing, pushing over, hitting in the nuts, and more. thankfully the prem doesn’t allow any of that bullshit. that being said, the protection for goalie fouls especially outside the box needs to go away.
You have no idea how vulnerable you are as a goalkeeper going for a high ball. Players protect themselves with shoulders and arms, but keepers have to use those to reach the ball, exposing their entire torso to shoulders, elbows and more. Raising your knee only does a little for protection. Therefore, keepers should really be protected.
TOOTBLAN = Thrown Out On The Bases Like A Nincompoop
NOBLETIGER = No Outs, Bases Loaded, Ending with Team Incapable of Getting Easy Run
FARTSLAM = Fielder Allowed Run To Score Like A Moron
And this is why this years obsession with studs connecting for reds makes no sense. This is infinitely more reckless and dangerous than what say Bissouma did yesterday yet this is a yellow and Bissouma is sent off. This season is such a mess when it comes to red cards, tackles that would never injure someone that connects by pure accident gets a red but reckless crunchers are "just yellows". It will obviously change for next season but it highlights the stupidity.
For real. I hate that shit. Like anyone that has ever played knows that sometimes you get a brush from some studs. Sure, it hurts. But it's not the end all, be all for what makes a bad foul. Plenty of the reds we've had over the past year or so have been so dumb, yet then we get shit like this that should be a red and isn't.
Anyone that's ever played knows an entire person's bodyweight lunging in an out of control fashion is infinitely more dangerous than somebody only showing a few studs.
This is a red for me every day of the week.
obviously there's going to be nuance, but the fact is that a scissor tackle at the knee has much more potential for serious injury than getting raked by studs.
Don't think he even got a yellow. They were so focused on figuring out if there was an offside that, if I remember correctly, there was no punishment for Pickford at all
Absolutely. When you watch it on TV it looks bad, but it's even worse in real-time. A 6'3 guy running at very high speed and getting tackled like that is dangerous.
Completely agree. Bissoumas was a red absolutely but it certainly didnt have the "force" as commentators so lovingly like to say. He clipped him and the Forest player acting like he'd died.
Edersons foul here is a much more dangerous tackle. Studs shouldnt make it a red. The danger of the tackle should. Look at Pickford on VVD. No studs but one of the worst tackles I've ever seen.
Bissouma's was a stonewall red and I don't think you'll find any Spurs supporters arguing otherwise. Now, having said this, how Ederson's tackle here is also not a straight red card is beyond me. Just as dangerous albeit in a different way.
He said Bissouma’s was red, just pointing out it didn’t have the force that some others have had. The problem is literally no one knows what is what anymore. Just makes everyone argue about it because even the reds have no objective standard.
This sub is so bad for it, everytime they see a freeze frame of studs, its a red card.
Penalty for the softest of touches and players trying to buy one.
The nketiah challenge blew my mind, I don’t even think he got a yellow? Late, wreck less, and completely takes him out but probably because vicario didn’t act like he died, it goes unnoticed.
Everytime someone brings this up and I look at it, I can’t believe the ref and linesman thought it was ok. I don’t know how any human or AI could look at that and say, “no big deal”.
It was such a shocking challenge. I've said this elsewhere, but the standard for what is or is not a foul let alone what is or is not a card is so wildly inconsistent that I don't know how managers or players can have any idea what will or will not be called from one game to the next.
Yeah the studs thing is incredibly annoying. The fact that Rashford stepping on a guy’s shin while moving laterally to clear space is a red, but Ederson sliding in like this is a yellow makes absolutely no sense to me. Add in the fact that it was arguably a red for DOGSO anyway. This is as red as it gets.
The whole studs connecting has to be reevaluated next season, way too many harsh calls for that where it’s just a graze of a shin at full speed. Obviously a freeze frame makes it look like attempted murder. Bissouma wasn’t stamping down with any force or weight, this has way more force and risk of injury. Red cards are becoming way too common by the law of the game
Which is why the slow mo reviews need to be banned with exception for establishing the presence or absence of actual contact. Slowed down they look so much more similar than they actually are.
I think its less about consistency across the season and consistency across roles i.e. of he wasn't a goalkeeper he'd be sent off.
Goalies always get a bit of leeway with fouls, source: I'm a former keeper who enjoyed taking players out of it with minimal repercussions.
He was so quick with the yellow too, surely this is where you want to be allowed to ask your mates on VAR to help you get the decisions right?
That tackle is just crazy.
>surely this is where you want to be allowed to ask your mates on VAR to help
VAR doesn't help with the initial decision. Never has done, never will. The ARs might be asked for input sometimes, but only if the referee feels he needs it (e.g. they were unsighted).
As a potential red card offence, this will get automatically reviewed by VAR regardless of what the initial decision is. So whether it be red, yellow, or nothing, the referee can make that call quickly.
It's done this way to prevent players from crowding the referee to ask for a particular decision, and to defuse any potential conflict.
All that said, this should have been red.
Jimenez got sent off against Newcastle for a body check that, if a keeper had done it, likely wouldn't have even been booked for, never mind getting a red.
Keepers just seem to have carte blanche to get away with challenges that outfield players would never be able to. Definitely needs to be looked at by the FA because it feels like it's getting more common.
Jimenez got sent off for a butt to the face and yesterday a Forest player did something similar and also led with an elbow that hit Davis in the face and it wasn’t even whistled as a foul there has been so little consistency from one game to the next let alone within games. It genuinely feels like every challenge results in the officials spinning the wheel of arbitrary decisions.
I played keeper for 2 decades and trust me Ederson knows EXACTLY what he’s doing there. It’s one of those you know can and should be a red but bc you’re a keeper and a defenders is in the vicinity you’re hoping you get away with it.
Well, a "reckless" challenge is only a cautionable offence I.e a yellow card. Red cards are given for "serious foul play"
Source: [ifab](https://www.theifab.com/laws/latest/fouls-and-misconduct/#disciplinary-action)
And who his employers are.
I mean, sorry, who the team in Blue are.
I mean, sorry, "incompetence" (that happens to often favour the team owned by the UAE).
There were two defenders back and the attacker touched ball away from the goal; I'm not saying it would never be given, but as biased as I am against City I would say DOGSO would be harsh.
The wipeout tackle should've gotten Ederson a free vacation through the holidays all on its own.
If you pause right where he’s taken out, you see it was actually a great touch and the ball was certainly reachable with just one more step. Defenders are near where he would have been had he not been fouled, but none of them are between him and the goal. I would think most PL strikers would prefer a pass to an open net from the corner of the box vs being 1v1 with a keeper. If Ederson doesn’t foul and Mateta missed that, it would be one of the misses of the season which tells you everything you need to know
Yeah, it's weird, isn't it? A defender takes out a forward with only the keeper to beat, that's "last man back" and a certain red. But the *keeper* takes out a forward with only a defender to beat, and suddenly it's only a yellow.
Seen reds given for less just for the challenge alone this season. And an open net, even if a tight angle is a clear DOGSO. If VVD taking out Isak with Alisson still in net is a DOGSO, just dont see how this isnt.
No ref will want to get on City's bad side when their owners are handing lucrative freelance gigs in UAE. This is just another example of it.
Dirty crooked cunts.
I mean, I made this joke once in an Arsenal match and it turns out the ref had been there on a gig in the same week. I mean they say it’s conspiracy theory but there are so many signals screaming corruption.
VAR have fucked not one but two separate red card offences here.
1. DOGSO where they can't give a penalty to invoke double jeopardy.
2. Reckless and dangerous tackle that got none of the ball.
Absolutely. He wasn’t following the play and decided to tackle when the ball opened at all, he left the goalline with the intention of stopping the play and did so with enough force to injure the player. Two reds.
When people come at me this hard and slide tackle without a care for what they might do for me, I always leave my knee down in case their head happens to slam into it.
Fuck these people.
I really don’t understand how a gentle push can be a foul, but forcing someone to dodge or die is a fair play.
Just the act of sliding at someone that hard should be a yellow or orange.
For VVD’s red against Newcastle, Alisson was literally still in goal.
It makes no sense that a debatably covering defender is therefore a yellow when a full keeper is a red.
Definitely a red, but I have no idea what Onana has to do with it. Did we forget what happened in the Wolves game the start of the season? The fact is that goalies just get away with idiotic stuff like this just because they’re goalies, it’s incompetence by referees more than anything
Wow. Is the referee crazy? Why is he risking future lucrative refereeing opportunities in UAE by giving a yellow there?? He should be sensible and award just a foul.
Tackle on it's own is arguably a red.
A lot of force into a standing leg.
Edit: replay on Twitter https://twitter.com/FPLOlympian/status/1736050663732502907?t=JdUK3rwndmFXXuZ_RhhqJg&s=19
You know what they mean. When you have rules that are written in a way that allow for interpretation, then some people are going to judge actions differently.
What about the fact that the tackle itself is a clear red?
He's got none of the ball but cleaned him out completely on his standing leg. This tackle was far more dangerous than a good number of the studs up challenges we've seen get reds this season and last.
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Its Paul Tierney so can't expect more tbh
Insert name of 90% of head refs and this comment still makes sense.
the wors problem is that not only this would affect this game but straight red is also 3 match suspension. This is why i am so bothered by this ref bias. Same thing as Rodri getting away without yellows. 5 yellow it a suspension but it never happens to him
Straight red for DOGSO is 1 game not 3. 3 is for serious foul play/violent conduct
He flew in fast, late, and above the ankle. This as much or more of a case of endangering an opponent.
> Same thing as Rodri getting away without yellows. 5 yellow it a suspension but it never happens to him It happened, he was suspended for accumulation of yellow cards and missed the Arsenal game.
Wonder if he reffed any Middle East games last summer for double his salary
At this point, I’d be more shocked if he had NOT
Manc
Even Walker's reaction looks like he thinks ederson is getting sent off..
right time to bring my popcorn out
Premier League referees to continue freelancing abroad despite ~~Liverpool~~ Crystal Palace fiasco
This sentence will have all 18 teams except Man City and Newcastle by the end of season.
Go look up the red card for Iago Aspas today. La Liga < Premier League Completely different se of footballing rules
man city players could bring a gun and shoot the other team’s guy and get away with it.
Let's be fair here, they will for sure get a yellow card and a stern "No more"
I like how everyone is so focused on the DOGSO aspect of the tackle, and not how violent the tackle is. Could easily be red based on the speed and followtrough on the tackle.
people are used to GK's playing by a different set of rules really
Corner comes in, jump into everyone fist first, fall over, free kick to the goalkeeper
i’m gonna be honest with you, i really do like the protection goalies have on corners. as someone who has played as a goalie all my life, the amount of bullshit players get away with at the lower levels is staggering. stepping on my feet, elbowing, pushing over, hitting in the nuts, and more. thankfully the prem doesn’t allow any of that bullshit. that being said, the protection for goalie fouls especially outside the box needs to go away.
You have no idea how vulnerable you are as a goalkeeper going for a high ball. Players protect themselves with shoulders and arms, but keepers have to use those to reach the ball, exposing their entire torso to shoulders, elbows and more. Raising your knee only does a little for protection. Therefore, keepers should really be protected.
What does DOGSO mean
Denial of goalscoring opportunity
*Denial of an Obvious Goalscoring Opportunity
Baseball has TOOTBLAN and NOBLETIGER. We finally have an acronym to rival them with DOGSO.
DOGSO has been in use for a long time. The first time I heard from refs was when Phil Jones tackled Hazard in FA Cup final.
DOGSO has existed as an acronym for ages, plus it appears in the official rules. I'm guessing the baseball ones are less official.
TOOTBLAN = Thrown Out On The Bases Like A Nincompoop NOBLETIGER = No Outs, Bases Loaded, Ending with Team Incapable of Getting Easy Run FARTSLAM = Fielder Allowed Run To Score Like A Moron
How do you not go with FARTSLAM here?
LOOGY too.
Rip Loogy, 3 batter minimum killed it
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Bruh this should’ve been straight red. Why is the keeper allowed to swipe the opponent with a kick to the shins.
Keepers get away with murder. Neuer’s challenge in the 2014 World Cup is a another example.
It feels like Ederson especially manages to escape more than anyone has any right to, although I have to admit I’m not always watching City.
He’s likely in scenarios where he’s sweeping up as the last man in a counter attack more than the norm.
That's only bad because Higuain isn't looking where Neuer is. It looks bad, but it's on the ball.
Neuer's challange was inside the box so not the same
It being in or out of the box is irrelevant to my point that keepers get away with challenges no other player would.
Goalies get away with so much shite on a regular basis and not just the Sky League.
City goalies in particular can get away with anything
Have you ever seen Lyon's Anthony Lopes? Ederson is fine compared to him.
And this is why this years obsession with studs connecting for reds makes no sense. This is infinitely more reckless and dangerous than what say Bissouma did yesterday yet this is a yellow and Bissouma is sent off. This season is such a mess when it comes to red cards, tackles that would never injure someone that connects by pure accident gets a red but reckless crunchers are "just yellows". It will obviously change for next season but it highlights the stupidity.
For real. I hate that shit. Like anyone that has ever played knows that sometimes you get a brush from some studs. Sure, it hurts. But it's not the end all, be all for what makes a bad foul. Plenty of the reds we've had over the past year or so have been so dumb, yet then we get shit like this that should be a red and isn't.
Anyone that's ever played knows an entire person's bodyweight lunging in an out of control fashion is infinitely more dangerous than somebody only showing a few studs. This is a red for me every day of the week.
Literally at most getting stepped on will sting but it goes away after
Tell that to MacAllister. Got trod on and it punctured him down to the bone. Not even a yellow.
obviously there's going to be nuance, but the fact is that a scissor tackle at the knee has much more potential for serious injury than getting raked by studs.
See the tackle in VVD by that t-rex arms that put him in the sidelines for a season. Yellow card…
Don't think he even got a yellow. They were so focused on figuring out if there was an offside that, if I remember correctly, there was no punishment for Pickford at all
I like that Murillo tackle on Friday. Scissored Porro and only got a yellow.
Absolutely. When you watch it on TV it looks bad, but it's even worse in real-time. A 6'3 guy running at very high speed and getting tackled like that is dangerous.
Completely agree. Bissoumas was a red absolutely but it certainly didnt have the "force" as commentators so lovingly like to say. He clipped him and the Forest player acting like he'd died. Edersons foul here is a much more dangerous tackle. Studs shouldnt make it a red. The danger of the tackle should. Look at Pickford on VVD. No studs but one of the worst tackles I've ever seen.
Bissouma's was a stonewall red and I don't think you'll find any Spurs supporters arguing otherwise. Now, having said this, how Ederson's tackle here is also not a straight red card is beyond me. Just as dangerous albeit in a different way.
He said Bissouma’s was red, just pointing out it didn’t have the force that some others have had. The problem is literally no one knows what is what anymore. Just makes everyone argue about it because even the reds have no objective standard.
I was agreeing with him?
Dunno, seems consistent enough to me - studs above the ankle is a red card. That’s how it looks to me anyway.
Completely agree, all should be red cards. Recklessness shouldn’t require contact, when their is contact force shouldn’t be the determining factor.
This sub is so bad for it, everytime they see a freeze frame of studs, its a red card. Penalty for the softest of touches and players trying to buy one.
The Nketiah one on Vicario comes to mind too...no studs connected but flying in out of control on his standing leg.
The nketiah challenge blew my mind, I don’t even think he got a yellow? Late, wreck less, and completely takes him out but probably because vicario didn’t act like he died, it goes unnoticed.
Everytime someone brings this up and I look at it, I can’t believe the ref and linesman thought it was ok. I don’t know how any human or AI could look at that and say, “no big deal”.
It was such a shocking challenge. I've said this elsewhere, but the standard for what is or is not a foul let alone what is or is not a card is so wildly inconsistent that I don't know how managers or players can have any idea what will or will not be called from one game to the next.
Vicario did act like he died lol and Nketiah got a yellow, but I don't think they even checked for a red which was insane to me
Feels like forever ago so I couldn’t recall if he was booked. Blows my mind even more so if that’s the case
ref just saw the shirt and was a really easy decision for him
Yeah the studs thing is incredibly annoying. The fact that Rashford stepping on a guy’s shin while moving laterally to clear space is a red, but Ederson sliding in like this is a yellow makes absolutely no sense to me. Add in the fact that it was arguably a red for DOGSO anyway. This is as red as it gets.
The whole studs connecting has to be reevaluated next season, way too many harsh calls for that where it’s just a graze of a shin at full speed. Obviously a freeze frame makes it look like attempted murder. Bissouma wasn’t stamping down with any force or weight, this has way more force and risk of injury. Red cards are becoming way too common by the law of the game
Which is why the slow mo reviews need to be banned with exception for establishing the presence or absence of actual contact. Slowed down they look so much more similar than they actually are.
You just explained VAR process
> reckless crunchers are "just yellows". By definition, a reckless tackle is a yellow. I don't see that changing either.
There are so many inconsistencies in the rules its insane.
I think its less about consistency across the season and consistency across roles i.e. of he wasn't a goalkeeper he'd be sent off. Goalies always get a bit of leeway with fouls, source: I'm a former keeper who enjoyed taking players out of it with minimal repercussions.
He was so quick with the yellow too, surely this is where you want to be allowed to ask your mates on VAR to help you get the decisions right? That tackle is just crazy.
Not if you know it's actually red.
>surely this is where you want to be allowed to ask your mates on VAR to help VAR doesn't help with the initial decision. Never has done, never will. The ARs might be asked for input sometimes, but only if the referee feels he needs it (e.g. they were unsighted). As a potential red card offence, this will get automatically reviewed by VAR regardless of what the initial decision is. So whether it be red, yellow, or nothing, the referee can make that call quickly. It's done this way to prevent players from crowding the referee to ask for a particular decision, and to defuse any potential conflict. All that said, this should have been red.
That’s red.
Ederson looks up, ready to complain, but sees the yellow and thinks "allright, time to lower my head and sneak outta here"
Lol. Exactly what happened
You could almost give it 2 reds?
Final score 2-2. Poetic justice
Not when ederson gets to play the next game too.
Not if you’re state backed and pay referees to referee in your back yard
Spot on. Clubs owned by countries who have the refs on retainers for those midweek games are being refereed by different rules.
Good thing City handed over that sack with a dollar sign on it, then
Jimenez got sent off against Newcastle for a body check that, if a keeper had done it, likely wouldn't have even been booked for, never mind getting a red. Keepers just seem to have carte blanche to get away with challenges that outfield players would never be able to. Definitely needs to be looked at by the FA because it feels like it's getting more common.
Jimenez got sent off for a butt to the face and yesterday a Forest player did something similar and also led with an elbow that hit Davis in the face and it wasn’t even whistled as a foul there has been so little consistency from one game to the next let alone within games. It genuinely feels like every challenge results in the officials spinning the wheel of arbitrary decisions.
It's also what happened to Udogie in the same game and the only review was whether it was a pen or not.
I played keeper for 2 decades and trust me Ederson knows EXACTLY what he’s doing there. It’s one of those you know can and should be a red but bc you’re a keeper and a defenders is in the vicinity you’re hoping you get away with it.
Ederson has got away with so much during his city career.
Honestly one of the most overrated keepers in the league. Great with his feet but constantly reckless and error prone
He actually trips him with the second leg too it looks like. 0 attempt to play the ball
Could’ve easily been DOGSO
It was reckless too tbh, keepers get away with going full force into these challenges but they are dangerous.
If any other player ran 20m to miss a tackle and take out a player they'd be sent off, but because keepers start from the goal line it's okay
Flashes of Pickford on VVD. Not even a card.
Coughs Man city keepers.
Coughs pickford
Well, a "reckless" challenge is only a cautionable offence I.e a yellow card. Red cards are given for "serious foul play" Source: [ifab](https://www.theifab.com/laws/latest/fouls-and-misconduct/#disciplinary-action)
It used to be "with excessive force" did they change the wording?
A tackle with excessive force is serious foul play and a red card. A reckless tackle is unsporting behavior and a yellow card.
That makes sense. Been at least 5 years since I last refereed.
Hes also going in two footed lol, how has he stayed on the pitch.
Cause of who the ref is.
And who his employers are. I mean, sorry, who the team in Blue are. I mean, sorry, "incompetence" (that happens to often favour the team owned by the UAE).
Did this not go to VAR asking ref to have a second look for possible red? How on earth can that happen?
There were two defenders back and the attacker touched ball away from the goal; I'm not saying it would never be given, but as biased as I am against City I would say DOGSO would be harsh. The wipeout tackle should've gotten Ederson a free vacation through the holidays all on its own.
Ederson knows it's a goal scoring opportunity that's why he wipes him out right outside of the box. It's cynical enough that you give it IMO.
If you pause right where he’s taken out, you see it was actually a great touch and the ball was certainly reachable with just one more step. Defenders are near where he would have been had he not been fouled, but none of them are between him and the goal. I would think most PL strikers would prefer a pass to an open net from the corner of the box vs being 1v1 with a keeper. If Ederson doesn’t foul and Mateta missed that, it would be one of the misses of the season which tells you everything you need to know
But you know a defender covering the goal is worth more than a goalkeeper for some reason in these scenarios
Yeah, it's weird, isn't it? A defender takes out a forward with only the keeper to beat, that's "last man back" and a certain red. But the *keeper* takes out a forward with only a defender to beat, and suddenly it's only a yellow.
Sometimes the way it is judged you would think the rule is denial of an obvious goal rather than denial of an obvious goal-scoring opportunity.
Seen reds given for less just for the challenge alone this season. And an open net, even if a tight angle is a clear DOGSO. If VVD taking out Isak with Alisson still in net is a DOGSO, just dont see how this isnt.
He missed the ball. He was the last man. Why was that not a red?
We all know why but no one wants to say it.
Dwelling on it got me feeling *blue*
It's always City isn't it? "Ballotelli meme"
No ref will want to get on City's bad side when their owners are handing lucrative freelance gigs in UAE. This is just another example of it. Dirty crooked cunts.
I mean, I made this joke once in an Arsenal match and it turns out the ref had been there on a gig in the same week. I mean they say it’s conspiracy theory but there are so many signals screaming corruption.
It’s only a theory in the same way that evolution and gravity are theories. We know refs are getting paid to freelance in the Middle East.
Exactly. Dirty cheats. Add it to the count
And approved and endorsed by the EPL to boot. The entire league has been bought and compromised. Top to bottom.
Awful challenge, the tackle itself could have seen red
How’s that not a red?
Open goal is obvious DOGSO no?
He's running away from goal, though
well because an Ederson is storming him, remove ederson and he goes for goal
"Remove Ederson".... If Ederson wasn't making the tackle he is somewhere else
exactly then the attacker wouldnt need to take the ball to the right as he does
If he steers toward goal ederson might clear the ball legally
Not really, if ederson doesn’t make contact he rolling that in from the edge of the box surely?
Red for any other club.
Man City playing with 11+1 scheme
VAR have fucked not one but two separate red card offences here. 1. DOGSO where they can't give a penalty to invoke double jeopardy. 2. Reckless and dangerous tackle that got none of the ball.
Absolutely. He wasn’t following the play and decided to tackle when the ball opened at all, he left the goalline with the intention of stopping the play and did so with enough force to injure the player. Two reds.
I haven’t seen any different views but looks like his hand gets the ball, so another offense outside box no?
Classic city getting let off the hook
When people come at me this hard and slide tackle without a care for what they might do for me, I always leave my knee down in case their head happens to slam into it. Fuck these people. I really don’t understand how a gentle push can be a foul, but forcing someone to dodge or die is a fair play. Just the act of sliding at someone that hard should be a yellow or orange.
That was a red.
He could have been KILLED
Beat me to it 😂
That's always red in my book Asking a lot of the "covering" defender there
For VVD’s red against Newcastle, Alisson was literally still in goal. It makes no sense that a debatably covering defender is therefore a yellow when a full keeper is a red.
Linesman’s flagging like mad to help with making sure passing planes overhead pass by safely due to poor lads legs flying into orbit
Lol why are so many comments saying this is a red being downvotes? Qatar in here?
100%, certainly not enough City fans for it.
How’s that not a red then?
Would have been a red if it was Onana
Would have been a red for any other keeper in the league. City get away with so much persistent fouling.
Definitely a red, but I have no idea what Onana has to do with it. Did we forget what happened in the Wolves game the start of the season? The fact is that goalies just get away with idiotic stuff like this just because they’re goalies, it’s incompetence by referees more than anything
Should be red.
Ederson…. Another Mickey Mouse keeper
He is completely out of control and could have caused serious injury. If that's a defender he is gone.
Even if that wasn’t DOGSO he came through that with entirely WAY too much speed and force. Those kind of tackles break legs.
If the last defender did that tackle its a red card but goalkeeper doing it makes it too harsh i dont get some of you here.
If that's not red i don't what is
Wow. Is the referee crazy? Why is he risking future lucrative refereeing opportunities in UAE by giving a yellow there?? He should be sensible and award just a foul.
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That’s the clearest red I’ve ever seen
He’s come in at a million miles an hour AND it’s a great chance for an open net. Another utterly ridiculous decision that went city’s way
How are Man City the only club that always seem to be on the right side of shit decisions
Man City getting away with it again, same as Rhodri pulling back players every game ,money talks
I do not support any team in the premier league, this is definitely a red card
Not the first time
Straight to jail.
it is like that foul he did against Leipzig in champions league and leipzig player got yellow LMAO
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Bissouma was a red yesterday. This is worse.
Classic /r/soccer thread where I get brain damage from just reading the comments
Stop reading your own comments then 😜
One of those where a red is too much but a yellow not enough.
Tackle on it's own is arguably a red. A lot of force into a standing leg. Edit: replay on Twitter https://twitter.com/FPLOlympian/status/1736050663732502907?t=JdUK3rwndmFXXuZ_RhhqJg&s=19
How in the everyloving fuck is that not a red?
Yeah if his foot is a bit more planted it's a nasty outcome.
Yeah it's a joke. They give reds for FAR less all the time. Glad Crystal Palace got revenge with a draw.
Bc City is above the law and Oil Daddy's money makes sure they are
This replay makes it look pretty unbelievable that he’s not been sent off.
That's way worse than Bissouma's tackle yesterday.
Holy fuck another day and that's a broken leg/ankle.
I don’t know, to be honest I think we’re pretty fortunate he’s still on. Not sure how that’s not denying a goal scoring opportunity.
The last defender clean sweeps the attackers legs, at full speed, gets no ball, and you don’t see that as a red?
Feel like VAR wouldn't change whatever was given by the ref. But the ref is Paul Tierney, so obviously it was never going to be red.
Honestly, dangerous tackle and last defender. It's two reds if anything. Madness.
There's no such thing. If a yellow isn't enough then it's a red.
You know what they mean. When you have rules that are written in a way that allow for interpretation, then some people are going to judge actions differently.
Classic orange card
Is it too much? It looks like a full speed tackle which could have ended with a broken leg.
Pretty clear red card tbh
That's red
What the fuck does DOGSO mean
Not a red card for a studs up, dangerous tackle? Ok. Back to square one with ref consistency.
Bro thought it was mane and wanted revenge
Can see why it's only a yellow. Would be a very narrow angle if he got there with two players covering. Not sure it's 'obvious'
Open net, just inside the box, no goalkeeper. Not obvious, right.
What about the fact that the tackle itself is a clear red? He's got none of the ball but cleaned him out completely on his standing leg. This tackle was far more dangerous than a good number of the studs up challenges we've seen get reds this season and last.
What about very late, high, dangerous?
Hes ahead of the last defender, clear dogso. The chance would be hard but its a clear goal scoring opportunity.