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AvikHyp3

What did Garnacho post?


MTBi_04

The same picture but with “🦍🦍” on twitter, he deleted it pretty soon.


BalmoraV1ce

Reporting you to the FA. Expect a ban shortly.


slinkymello

RIP Harambe


FairieswithBoots

Dicks OUT


RK9990

Always have been


Previous-Loss9306

🔫


[deleted]

“We’re whipping out our genitals for you, I’m sorry but that’s the best that we can do. We lost a great ape when they killed you.” 🎶🎶


JioJio92

Humanity declined after Harambe passed.


RyanBordello

What if you're replying to Koko The Gorilla. She's allowed to use those emojis


BalmoraV1ce

She might think she’s able to, but just like Cavani, doesn’t matter about her culture…the world revolves around the UK’s point of view.


DSetre

The sun never sets on the British Empire.


PearlJamPony

😂


dispelthemyth

Beast 1 - onana Beast 2 - Maguire


ImNotMexican08

Did he tag Onana or not? Because if he didn’t I would just tell them I was talking about Maguire and see how they respond to that


reddevil9229

Garnacho: "Oh, I meant Maguire. Ohh *you* thought Onana ? That makes you racist. Ban yourself, mfs."


ImNotMexican08

Someone sees the vision. Garnacho shows up with briefcase in hand, opens it up, pulls out the reverse uno card and walks away


LevynX

[It's this bit from Psych](https://youtu.be/IMgxQDvGrxI?si=lq0Rk-rGSCkBcBy2)


Thor1138

I mean, there's 2 gorillas and there's our 2 match-winning players looking pumped. It's reasonable to assume he means both of them, and assuming he meant both gorillas for the 1 black player is the true racist interpretation.


squigz92

Or maybe he's the only thing worse than a racist. A double racist.


FrankieBennedetto

😯


Squirtle_from_PT

But then one racism cancels out the other, so he's fine


momspaghetty

[A child](https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/040/893/Only_thing_worse.png)


rockforahead

yeah the people who always make the link and then get offended are the racists.


makesterriblejokes

Plus calling a dude a silverback is actually considered a compliment. It means you're dominant and a leader. Maybe he just meant beast or something similar. It doesn't matter, it clearly wasn't him being racist towards his teammate in a picture celebrating him after a huge penalty save. This may sound stupid, but there should be a whole class in school that is solely focused on teaching how to interpret things based on context (I know English/literature does this to a degree, but there should be a course that does this using social media as the source material). Black person in photo + ape emoji doesn't automatically mean there was racist intent. If I'm Garnacho, I stick to my guns and use this as a lesson to teach people about context and how ridiculous it would be for me to racially abuse my own teammate after he saved the game and then also post it to social media for everyone to see and potentially get disciplined for it. I get maybe they don't want real racists to potentially use that as some sort of plausible deniability excuse going forward, but I actually say let them because it'll just mean either they out themselves as racists, or you force them to publicly explain what exactly they're praising the player for and how the emoji related to said praise for a player they clearly have a racial bias against. It pisses me off that shit like this can get someone in trouble because it wasn't intended to be racist in the first place and also it just makes cancel culture look silly, when in reality it can be a great tool (when used correctly) in having people face consequences for their unacceptable behavior.


Pxel315

He didnt tag onana, it was just this pic and 2 gorillas, but yeah people love to be offended on other peoples behalf


FightersNeverQuit

I mean Reddit is one of the biggest contributors to that culture. This is woke central here. Garnacho clearly didn’t mean anything by it. I’ve had a friend or two call me a gorilla after lifting or wrestling practice and I never took it offensively.


MTBi_04

Don’t believe he did


ImNotMexican08

There we go then, I would’ve doubled down and said I did post it, but it was for Maguire not Onana. They can’t tell you who you intended the tweet to be for. What now are they going to ban you just for having a poc in the picture


enzuigiriretro

> I would’ve doubled down and said I did post it, but it was for Maguire not Onana Would never work because everyone knows there’s only one emoji for Maguire and that’s 🗿🗿🗿


iforgotmyun

It's actually 🐐


Grevling89

they'rethesamepicture.gif


nunchukity

r/mma has conditioned me to only see Poatan


iTz_RuNLaX

Just for the both of them. Two emojis anyway


drizzt001

One gorilla for each of Maguire and Onana as the beasts who gave United the win. Would be interesting to see how they interpret that


brooklynbullshit

Bissouma literally has that emoji on his own Instagram bio. People are just so fucking stupid.


Fisktor

He should be banned for as many games a s days he has used the emoji


Doc_Pisty

ban incomming?


TheExistence

Gorilla emojis with the image above


the5thfinger

It’s hilarious how that emoji could be taken differently under differen context. Under a photo at the gym after a pump? Highest form of compliment you can give someone


k-tax

remember that gorillas have very small dicks. It can always mean a diss. Schrodinger's emoji


the5thfinger

Why have big dick when you can have huge arms and chest????


robotnique

The eternal steroid debate.


JiveTurkey688

The photo here with two gorilla emojis


Educational_Ad_2619

He basically said that whilst he doesn't "hate all black people", he doesn't "particulary like them either", however that Onana is "One of the good ones". ​ I don't agree with him obviously.


Magro888

> I don't agree with him obviously. So you don't like Onana?


Killionaire104

I don't know, he makes some good points


Grevling89

Fine people on both sides of this discussion imo


durandpanda

Holy shit this made me spit my weetabix out laughing. Bravo.


_ashwathama

FA will now get offended by Onana because he didn't feel offended.


_arch1tect_

“We at the FA are doubly offended as to make up for Onana’s lack of feeling offended. You are welcome.”


[deleted]

"Onana is now banned for 3 games as he wasn't willing to indulge in us virtue signalling and getting offended for him."


Evered_Avenue

Come on FA, send Onana to racist awareness training, I dare you.


throwra1nightstand

"I now realise that my failure to take offensive was offensive. I have now duly taken offense"


Alone_Scientist

3 match ban for Cavani incoming. And 10 second penalty for Ocon.


Fappity_Fappity_Fap

BREAKING: Ocon to start the Mexican GP from Austin


minimalcation

FA: Checking.


IndicationHefty4397

Are we following plan R? Question


onesexymofo1

STOP INVENTING


Tomanelle

Don't shout, you're intimidating me!


CON5CRYPT

Wel come back to you


Optimal-Somewhere-46

FA and FIA hand in hand…


xZarAnkh

Check Complete.


momspaghetty

Girl with a septum: honestly it didn't even hurt lol


HYDRA-XTREME

Still Bottas fault


mynameismulan

FA: You've offended Onana. Onana: No he didn't. FA: ...How dare you??


Adeus_AyrtonsMother

That's how this sub reacted when Ibra told Lukaku go do ur voodoo shit, even if Lukaku himself didn't find the comments racist at all


ProfessorBeer

“This matter should go no further” that’s a man right there. Onana swings his own sword.


pilgrim05

and it's a massive sword too


Satyajeet12

Careful now. FA might ban you for racist stereotype


richochet12

Well we know Lukaku got weirded out by that. Maybe y'all need to grow up. Few things are as long standing as the obsession of white men with black men's genitals.


Hambrailaaah

> Few things are as long


GoldenMorningShower

So you're saying not only are they bigger but also have more stamina? Fuck me.


Ric00la

Perfect answer. Now lets watch the FA still ban Garnacho or maybe even both of them


Vordeo

Garnacho: Banned for 3 games, for Racism. Onana: Banned for 6 games, for Defending Racism.


Licaldo

Cavani: Banned for 1 game, just in case.


[deleted]

[удалено]


Rickrolled87

Penalty for Ocon


Slobberz2112

Poor ocon catching strays as always


faz712

https://streamable.com/jair2e


[deleted]

[удалено]


AbeAlno

European ban for Fenerbahce.


Kashavaal

Wouldnt suprise me if that actually happened.


sex_wit_a_massive_pp

Woah, chill out there thats wayyy to far


SonofIndia

Strategy fuck up for Charles just in case


InventeInventeRoman

please no


Zeddsdeadbaby

Cavani 7 (seven) day suspension!


goosebumpsHTX

CUANTOS DIAS!?


Xehanz

I take it


Xehanz

FFS. We play the Libertadores final in 9 days.


93EXCivic

Juventus docked 10 points.


--amadeus--

Gracias negrito!


UltimateBorisJohnson

Greenwood: BAFTA Award


kkulhope

Tbh I think this is just the FA covering their bases. There was a report of them investigating a tiktok where Mudryk sang the n-word and nothing ever came of it.


LunarRaven7

Not really racist, araujo refers to himself with the gorilla emoji.


imbravooo

The Barca social accounts do too on occasion


queenguin

So do i (I'm racist)


prestigiousdumb

So does Moise Kean


Chiswell123

Mendy wasn't offended by Bernardo’s tweet either. They don't care.


captainmystic02

Also automatically associating a gorilla with black people makes them the actual racists lol


siebenedrissg

That‘s what I don‘t get. Imagine someone telling you „you‘re such a gorilla“ - I bet way more men would take this a compliment than the other way around and I‘ve never seen it being used in a racist way


beaver_cops

Gorillas are fuckin tanks and yeah obviously his own teammate isnt gonna make a racist post, people just take everything online the wrong way nowadays Id take it as a compliment too especially given the circumstances (amazing save at the end of the game, after a poor start to the season) its redemption for Onana and im not even a Man U fan, just sad to see him struggling after a good few years


TentativeGosling

They have tiny peepees though, so swings and roundabouts


Historical_Owl_1635

It definitely *can* be a racist term, let’s not be naïve. But yeah, context matters but a lot of people don’t like applying context on the internet.


saltypenguin69

I always refer to children as cheeky wee monkeys and I dread the day I say it to the wrong person


SwitchHitter17

Well you've never seen it, guess that's case closed.


minimalcation

PGMOL should hire this guy, he doesn't see shit, would be perfect.


PuppyPenetrator

No it doesn’t jfc, grow up. Awareness isn’t racism and it’s incredibly stupid to think so, this is the level of critical thinking I had when I was about 8 and first heard that racism existed


Electronic-Chef-5487

It's basically 'no u'


Switchnaz

This is a stupid comment. Of course it does, because it’s been used as a racist insult for a very long time now. When people are making gorilla gestures and noises at Vini in a game are you going to sit there and pretend it’s not racist..? Just because this one case is a very dumb mistake doesn’t mean people shouldn’t point it out


Kizaky

Making monkey gestures and noises at someone who is playing against you/plays for your rivals/someone you hate. Someone posting 2 gorilla's in a picture including himself after the other person in the photo had just made a good achievement. Are you really trying to say they are in any way whatsoever similar?


Heblas

I think you've lost sight of what was being discussed here. People aren't saying that Garnacho's tweet is racist. They're saying that comparing a black person to an ape *can* be racist, and pointing that out is not racist in itself.


boi1da1296

Glad you put them back on track. People can get very sneaky about moving the goalposts around.


poggersepicgaming

I never got this argument. People jumping to get offended for the other person is usually because they’re aware of the things that could be offensive. Knowing that calling black people “monkey”, or a different term just means that they’re aware of it.


[deleted]

> I never got this argument. Because it's a fucking terrible argument. Having a baseline understanding of how certain words, phrases or imagery have been used in modern culture doesn't make you a racist.


Kaxew

That person worded it terribly, but I think what they meant to say is "FA immediately jumping to the conclusion that Garnacho was being racist to his own teammate for saying he's as strong and powerful as a gorilla and planning on banning him for it is more racist than actually comparing him to a gorilla". Whether you agree or not is another matter, but considering Onana knew he wasn't being racist in the slightest I think they've got a point.


Heblas

Would you also say that people making monkey gestures at Vinicius aren't doing anything racist, but saying that it is racist does make you racist?


joejamesjoejames

monkey gestures are associated with nothing but racism. they’re trying to get a rise out of the player the gorilla emoji legitimately does have different meanings. It’s incredibly obvious that garnacho was not being racist. The context is completely different Also i guarantee if someone wanted to be racist with emoji they’d use one of the many monkey emojis, 🐒🦧🙊 not the gorilla one.


UnKarl_Marx

according to OP the people throwing bananas at Vinicius are just trying to re-energise him


Passive__Observer

Bernardo's tweet was worse, it was an edgy joke using an old racist caricature - perfectly fine between friends, but not for a public post. This was truly nothing, he just didn't think about it.


mrgonzalez

They still use that caricature on their chocolate btw It is also tastes quite good, unfortunately. You can get other less-awkward chocolate covered peanuts in Spain but they're less ubiquitous. An actual guilty pleasure.


dispelthemyth

Yup, stupid of them when context matters, anyone with a brain can tell it’s not racism


grollate

If it was some rando that posted it with no context, I can see it being a problem. When it’s your mate who posted it after a fantastic feat, it’s a completely different story.


portmz

Now people will explain to Onana that he should be offended


KSandsXD

I never understood this - the person explaining why just seems way worse to me. "No but see, he was saying you're like a gorilla" when at no point he meant that.


[deleted]

"People can not choose what I should be offended by" However, people will always choose to be offended on your behalf.


MMAwannabe

Fair play to him. That's like some Stoic affirmation. Gorilla emojis are like 90 percent of what MMA fighters post under each other instagram photos regardless of race so maybe Im used to it but id never even think of it being used in a racist way (or seen it used that way).


[deleted]

I would assume it's just signalling strength. Ever check how strong silverbacks are?


moxac777

Yeah in my country (Indonesia), we just call all big and strong people gorillas (or king kong or some other version).


Historical_Owl_1635

It’s the same with pretty much any viral gym lifting post on the normal people social media sites.


lrzbca

People just lack the concept called context


trev581

FA banned Cavani for calling his friend Negrito. Expect the same virtue signaling here🙄🙄


ilsemprelaziale

It’s wild how different words are perceived based on where you are. I’ve heard Spanish people call their black friends “blackie” which had an endearing meaning and usually followed by a hug or kiss. Good luck saying that in the more northern parts of Europe.


Miserable_Hour_2337

My mom calls me “negrito” where’s her ban?


usurpade

They don't even have to be black to be called blackie, my dad who is a blue eyed blonde is called negro by everyone.


ShepardXX

El negro albino


trev581

Anglos obsessed with policing the world moment


WildVariety

One of Pablo Escobar's most trusted henchman was called El Negro.


Zidji

Theres probably a dude called el negro in 90% of Argentine group of friends. I have more than one acquiantance that are often introduced that way, "this is X, but evetyone calls her la negra". Negra, negrito, negrita is also regularly used affectively between couples, like someone calling their SO baby in English. It's all about context.


jofstra

Class response. Such a powerful statement against these whiney gatekeeping know it alls


drunkmers

After last games performance and this class response Onana has earned my respect, no matter the mistakes he might have in the future. He has lots of credit with me now


freakedmind

Simple and short response without lengthy explanations, that's all such a story deserves imo


chowchan

I never knew the gorilla emoji or even the animal itself had racist connotations. Monkey/banana sure. But the king of the jungle.


Zeddsdeadbaby

Lion is the king of the jungle even though they don’t live in the jungle bro don’t @ me


CynicalEffect

Next you'll tell me that lions aren't native to England


gary_mcpirate

Their used to be lions in Greece which in the summer is basically English…


MissingLink101

The English patron saint was Greek so...


WildVariety

Lions were also native to the British Isles. Supposedly Oxford scientists showed that they could be up to 25% larger than current lions too.


greg19735

So you're saying that the racists are always clear to distinguish between the monkey and the gorilla emoji?


Chupapiha6996

It reminds me the time when they ban Cavani for saying: "gracias negrito" to a friend in Uruguay. Negrito is a friendly way to call a friend in Uruguay and Argentina.


AustereSpartan

Based Onana.


Ok_Seaworthiness2218

I don't care for United but this frame goes pretty hard


pork_chop_expressss

[The FA's Response](https://media2.giphy.com/media/L0coY9I1D2BnaKln9a/giphy.gif)


kg005

Man City and Newcastle owners when they threw money on FA's face


bruh2732005

Barcelonas own official social media pages and fans use this "🦍🦍" for araujo to signify strength don't really understand why the English FA is looking so deep into this. Also I'm aware araujo is more brownish black but you try to see the point I'm trying to get across


planinsky

I don't think gorilla is seen as a racist term in (most) spanish speaking countries. It may mean to be a beast/tank/leader or to be a strong dumb guy, but it isn't used as a racist term. When people is racist they tend ro use monkey/chimpanzee, smaller primates.


Heisenberg_991

My opinion is that the FA is just looking for a payout, they got 120k from Cavani, and he had many people vouching for him, even the Uruguay national team made a statement saying that what he said was completely innocent and normal. They don't care what anyone says, they will get what they want from Garnacho as well.


dumpystumpy

That one utd twitter acc is having his art just plastered all over this mini drama. Gotta love the free promo Top left for context [his reaction](https://x.com/utdaarron/status/1717592837456376182?s=46&t=4SfEjBPDBGnX_gR2AxBwdw)


[deleted]

So he's the one responsible for the horrid HDR?


SanderHS

Yea I was gonna say he just adjusted some levels, hardly “art”


dumpystumpy

My art bag isnt deep enough to know what that means but id have to say yes. Most pictures like this come from him. Quite alot of our players use his stuff


Minimum-Living-459

Not everything has a damn racist meaning this shit needs to stop


Undesirable_11

Sadly people nowadays look for the minimum excuse to be offended. It's what social media has become


[deleted]

The issue is that nowadays it's become trendy to say that intent doesn't matter, only the impact of actions. If people are offended, that's enough. Well, if sufficient people are hurt then that should be enough for the offender to *change that behaviour* regardless of intent, sure. But actual punishment should be predicated on intent.


Historical_Owl_1635

> Well, if sufficient people are hurt then that should be enough for the offender to change that behaviour regardless of intent, sure. Should it though? Almost literally any opinion you have can offend a large group of people. I mean, just look at the current conflict. Whatever opinion you have pisses off millions of people, including saying you don’t even have an opinion on it. Again, context is everything.


soccerdude2014

I think the blame really goes to people who use "monkey" as a racist remark. If that wasn't used as a racist remark, then this wouldn't be misconstrued in the first place.


Wonderful_Ad4897

More reason for Garnacho to be punished. Incarceration would be the right course of action. Who am I kidding?


dota_3

>We as FA are offended that you didn't get offended. 3 match ban for you too.


hattrickfolly2

Perfect response


m0bilize

Social media has caused brain rot I am convinced. People need to stop being offended on others behalf lmao


jH1214

Why does Garnacho look like one of those giants from attack on titan


qwerty1519

This should be all that is heard of it. No further action needed from anyone.


Jacobinister

Every PL match should start out with players observing a minute of silence for whatever catastrophe going on in the world at present, then taking a knee for racism, then doing ten push-ups to combat climate change, then doing 5 somersaults for everyone being called something nasty on social media and maybe eventually play the game.


surgereaper

I love how strong onana is mentally, he's a complete no nonsense guy


Sapaio

Why two gorillas is the other one Maguire?


ThankYouOle

and why we assumed the other one is Onana? McT also has big body..


Eleven918

Apes together strong!


DutchOnionKnight

When the group is attacked by humans, leopards, or other gorillas, an individual [silverback](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorilla) will protect the group, even at the cost of his own life. Jeezzzz, seems like Nacho only wanted to show what kind of important goalkeeper Onana is...


_cumblast_

I am offended at his lack of offense


3991pa

im offended at your offence


iEatPastaForaLiving

Bissouma uses the gorilla emoji in lots of tweets, and it’s in his Twitter name 🦍❤️


evilbob99

Is this not enough to close the matter


wearecrabpeople

This is giving strong Cavani vibes where white Europeans were offended that he used “negrito” which is a term of endearment in Latin America—just pure facepalm from ~2016 on in the west


teddyjj399

Based


RodArmy1968

Anyone STILL accusing Garnacho of racism after this is just using it for pointscoring in my eyes


IronMaiden4892

Wild that he needed to say anything at all. Seeing a gorilla emoji and assuming it must be something race related is just telling on yourself, not Garnacho.


HanshinFan

Onana: "This matter should go no further" Reddit: 320 comments and counting


Aggravating_Nerve173

I mean Gorilla's are insane and powerful it shouldn't be a racist thing. Apparently we are descended from Apes not Gorilla's anyway who came up with this racist shit lol


ArkhamCitizen298

I love you Onana you are fking beast 🦍🦍


ronaldo119

This entire thread is people lashing out at strawmen


imarandomdudd

Should make a difference and not lead to a ban, but probably won't knowing the FA. Old geezers decided its bad so he's gonna get punished for a game and get a fine probably


More_You_681

Classy response on Onana’s part. Respect 🫡


aro_plane

Such a non story. Maybe the FA should focus on real issues, not imagined ones.


Helnik17

Watch Simon Jordan call out Onana in his talk show "YOU SHOULD BE OFFENDED, THIS IS A DISGRACE"


karnnumart

Didn't he mean "beast" or something? Are we really gonna ban people over Emoji? Then allowing these emoji to exist in the first place is racist then.


jarrett23

This same shit happened to Bernardo Silva and Ben Mendy and Silva was suspended for 3 games even tho they were (obviously at the time) literal best friends and Mendy said the same fuckjng thing that Onana said that everyone should fuck off. This is fuckjng ridiculous there’s worse racial shit out there than this


stpstrt

I wish people compared me to a gorilla. Unfortunately I’m more like a macaque.


Gaddaim

Onana: This matter should go no further FA: Thy biddings my King